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Picking Dem

(106 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:27 PM Aug 2015

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It was on the Maddow show an hour ago or more along with 2 of people riversedge Aug 2015 #1
What was the impression in your opinion? Nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #6
I am impressed by both the person who asked Hillary the questions, and Hillary, thanks still_one Aug 2015 #2
"It is a pleasure and an honor to be in this dialogue with you...." virtualobserver Aug 2015 #14
This was a private meeting. What protest are you talking about? It was a meeting setup by both still_one Aug 2015 #31
Was the meeting only eight minutes long? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #3
I just asked that question on Black Lives Matter FB page. You can, too. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #7
Not good enough, Hillary. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #4
Sure would have liked to hear his retort. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #5
Part 2 Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #9
Thank you! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #12
aggressive. she was aggressive. not agitated. it was interesting. seabeyond Aug 2015 #20
Ok, fair enough. I thought i would use the more friendly option. I can see the aggressiveness too. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #21
It is appears that he is apologizing for yelling at the beginning of this segment. So, we are not Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #16
the part most important.... is and has always been white problem of violence. seabeyond Aug 2015 #19
can we call this video #HeadnodHillary PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #8
I'm for #stabbingfingerHillary Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #10
My ears count 29 mmmmhmmms from Hillary. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #11
I think that comment deserves the same response that Bernie gave to the NY reporter on Hillary's hair still_one Aug 2015 #32
The #BlackLivesMatters activists were very respectful and deferential of HRC. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #13
interesting. thank you for bringing this for us to hear. very interesting how clinton addresses seabeyond Aug 2015 #15
No problem. I may be a Bernie supporter but I try to be impartial Picking Dem Aug 2015 #17
In plain, simple English, she has no plan. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #18
She wanted to get one from them it seemed. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #23
All I see is lots of head nodding, finger pointing and legalese... ram2008 Aug 2015 #22
Agreed, Jennifer Kay Aug 2015 #24
It did sound a bit inappropriate, it showed agitation to me. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #25
I get what she's saying here. ibegurpard Aug 2015 #26
Why were BLM not allowed to speak to her crowd at the event? Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #27
Well, the story at the time jeff47 Aug 2015 #28
And as the video shows they are right there, within arms length. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #29
They were too late to clear security and had tweeted hours ahead that they planned to disrupt ... slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #30
It seems the video has been removed LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #33

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
1. It was on the Maddow show an hour ago or more along with 2 of people
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:32 PM
Aug 2015

in the film

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
6. What was the impression in your opinion? Nt.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:52 PM
Aug 2015
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
2. I am impressed by both the person who asked Hillary the questions, and Hillary, thanks
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:38 PM
Aug 2015
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
14. "It is a pleasure and an honor to be in this dialogue with you...."
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:08 PM
Aug 2015

That is a seriously respectful opening to a protest.

What do they call that?.....Boston nice, I believe.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
31. This was a private meeting. What protest are you talking about? It was a meeting setup by both
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:42 AM
Aug 2015

groups. O'Malley met privately with them after the NetRoots and I think other times also. I believe Bernie did too. So I have no idea what you are referring to.

If you schedule a meeting with a private group of people, it is for a dialog, not for a protest

Also, the second part of the video is not particularly cordial, so take it for what it is

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
3. Was the meeting only eight minutes long?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:41 PM
Aug 2015

Or are we watching an edited video?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
7. I just asked that question on Black Lives Matter FB page. You can, too.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:53 PM
Aug 2015

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
4. Not good enough, Hillary.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:50 PM
Aug 2015

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
5. Sure would have liked to hear his retort.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:51 PM
Aug 2015

Hillary says "you're gonna have to come together as a movement and say here is what we want done about it." Also she said, politically speaking "can't explain it, can't sell it, it stays on the shelf"

Unfortunately the video ends before we get to hear his response.

Senator Tankerbell

(316 posts)
9. Part 2
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:59 PM
Aug 2015

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
12. Thank you! Nt.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:03 PM
Aug 2015

Youch. Part 2 does not reflect well on Hillary in my opinion. She seemed quite agitated.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
20. aggressive. she was aggressive. not agitated. it was interesting.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:15 PM
Aug 2015

now.... i am gonna listen to what the black community has to say.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
21. Ok, fair enough. I thought i would use the more friendly option. I can see the aggressiveness too.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:18 PM
Aug 2015

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
16. It is appears that he is apologizing for yelling at the beginning of this segment. So, we are not
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:08 PM
Aug 2015

seeing the entire video.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. the part most important.... is and has always been white problem of violence.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:14 PM
Aug 2015

not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.

that was very important, and no i was not into that at all.

i do understand her position about not changing hearts, change laws....

but... his point is right on. i do not know if she is capable of addressing what he is saying, though i think it is important part.

thanks

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
8. can we call this video #HeadnodHillary
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:55 PM
Aug 2015

looks like a bobblehead.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
10. I'm for #stabbingfingerHillary
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:00 PM
Aug 2015

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
11. My ears count 29 mmmmhmmms from Hillary.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:02 PM
Aug 2015

Thats.... a lot.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
32. I think that comment deserves the same response that Bernie gave to the NY reporter on Hillary's hair
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:48 AM
Aug 2015

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
13. The #BlackLivesMatters activists were very respectful and deferential of HRC.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:07 PM
Aug 2015

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. interesting. thank you for bringing this for us to hear. very interesting how clinton addresses
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:08 PM
Aug 2015

this too. i would love feed back from blm. i think she opened the door for them to come back to her with some more.....

good

 

Picking Dem

(106 posts)
17. No problem. I may be a Bernie supporter but I try to be impartial
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:12 PM
Aug 2015

especially when it comes to BLM. I'm a white minority (disabled)....

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. In plain, simple English, she has no plan. nt
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:12 PM
Aug 2015

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
23. She wanted to get one from them it seemed.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:24 PM
Aug 2015

Earlier on in the first video she admits if you can't explain it and can't sell it, it sits on the shelf.

Trying to be as impartial as I can but if Hillary doesn't get some heat from this, especially the second clip, then I'll have to either question my sanity or question those carrying water.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
22. All I see is lots of head nodding, finger pointing and legalese...
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:21 PM
Aug 2015

From Hillary. She seemed a bit agitated but the videos seem edited, so who knows.

Also what the heck was that comment from Hillary about her saying "Ok I'll only go talk to white people then" I can understand being frustrated and defensive, but you can't say that.

Jennifer Kay

(28 posts)
24. Agreed,
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:55 PM
Aug 2015

the comment about going to talk to white people was insanely degrading and her attitude was way out of touch.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
25. It did sound a bit inappropriate, it showed agitation to me.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:04 AM
Aug 2015

Welcome to DU. Cheers!

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
26. I get what she's saying here.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:10 AM
Aug 2015

It makes sense to me. It doesn't seem like she's listening though. I can't judge it like someone coming from the Black experience can.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
27. Why were BLM not allowed to speak to her crowd at the event?
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:14 AM
Aug 2015

why were BLM ushered into another room?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
28. Well, the story at the time
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:29 AM
Aug 2015

was that BLM arrived late and the Secret Service wouldn't let them in.

This was shortly followed by the claim that Clinton asked the Secret Service to let them in anyway, which they supposedly refused to do.

Both of these claims are significantly damaged by the Secret Service agreeing to a private meeting after the event - if BLM was a danger to Clinton for arriving late, then they are still a danger in a private meeting. Especially because the'd be right next to Clinton instead of some distance away from her.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
29. And as the video shows they are right there, within arms length. Nt.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:31 AM
Aug 2015

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
30. They were too late to clear security and had tweeted hours ahead that they planned to disrupt ...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:31 AM
Aug 2015

her speech.

Second and third posts here with the details.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/~slipslidingaway

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
33. It seems the video has been removed
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:50 AM
Aug 2015

Not sure why that would happen, but I am going to guess. Perhaps the video is not complete, and the principals from BLM that were there did not appreciate the leak. If we can agree that the video was edited, then there might also have been a call from Hillary that asked for an explanation.

I don't know that the setting was conducive to a heart to heart conversation. This really wasn't a meeting. This occured in the overflow room after an event at which BLM had intended to protest.

What we are missing from this video is an initial confrontation, what we saw was the aftermath where two parties were sounding each other out for further discussion.

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