The Problem With A Lot Of O'Malley Supporters...

[last1standing]

Is that they're so polite they're making wonder if O'Malley might be Canadian.

[BooScout]

1. We should check his birth certificate....

...just in case.

[last1standing]

4. At least it would give Orly Taitz a reason to get back in the news.

She ran with the Obama birther conspiracy on much less.

[DesertFlower]

9. i remember her. didn't we call

her "oily potatoes"?

[last1standing]

11. I called her a lot of things.

None of which I can repeat here.

[DesertFlower]

15. so did i. nt

[lovemydog]

52. I liked calling her Oily Tater Tots.

[awoke_in_2003]

66. I recall it being Oily Taint. nt

[Recursion]

2. Ironic that the only actual Canadian is Ted Cruz, eh?

What's that aboot?

[last1standing]

5. They must be so ashamed.

What a crappy export to be known for.

[Jim Lane]

42. I think they're chuckling -- politely, of course -- about having unloaded him on us (n/t)

[FSogol]

3. HEY....

[underthematrix]

6. That's a good one

[sunnystarr]

7. O'Malley deserves a more serious look. (nt)

[babylonsister]

8. Agreed. The more the merrier? nt

[last1standing]

10. Speaking as a Sanders supporter, I agree.

I considered O'Malley before deciding on Sanders and I like his progressive outreach but I'm concerned about his somewhat recent Third Way stances. If he can find a way to show that he's not pulling a bait and switch like Obama did in 2008, I think he could surge in the polls.

[elleng]

13. There ARE no 'recent Third Way stances,'

GIVE IT UP!

Look at his RECORD!

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1281

[last1standing]

18. I'm not saying O'Malley doesn't have some good history.

But he's been talking much less conservatively than in the past. Namely, his record on policing as Baltimore mayor and Governor of Maryland were too heavy handed for my tastes.

That's not saying he wouldn't make good president, only that I believe he needs to find a way to show that he will actually attempt to enact the progressive policies he's now touting.

[elleng]

20. He's PROGRESSIVE,

was a progressive governor, never has been conservative.

I LIVE in Maryland, like him a lot, and wish to heck there were no term limits for governor here. Now we're stuck with a damned repug.

[last1standing]

22. I'm a recent transplant here, myself.

Honestly, I'm not trying to smear the guy, but he did use traffic cameras to raise revenues which was an effective tax on the poor and working class, and having spoken to many black citizens of Baltimore, there's a great deal of anger over what they consider his heavy handed crime policies.

On the other hand, he's been consistently for LGBT equality, has a good record with immigration and environmental concerns, and did a great deal to turn Baltimore around from becoming the Detroit of the East Coast.

I like O'Malley and would definitely consider him if Sanders drops out.

[winterwar]

40. Detroit of the East Coast?

Why hate on Detroit? Some of us love Detroit. It's a great city. It's got it's problems, but every city does. There are wonderful things about it as well. It's a tired punchline at this point.

[lovemydog]

53. In addition to great people

it's got the best Coney Island hot dogs!

[sunnystarr]

32. Looks like he already showed that

by actually enacting his policies. He's not all talk ... he took action on his policies and actually did it! No other candidate can claim that at this point.

[elleng]

34. THANK YOU, sunnystarr!

'No other candidate can claim that at this point.' SO glad it's noticed! PHEW!

[sunnystarr]

39. I do love stating the obvious lol

On election day 2016 I'll vote for our Dem candidate, whoever he/she is. In the meantime however, I'm not crazy about Hillary and the Clinton machine and while I like Bernie I don't see either him or Hillary with leadership abilities. That's a quality that Obama has and one of the reasons I was so behind him in both elections. O'Malley is a leader.

[elleng]

41. With you 100%!!!

[FSogol]

62. +1 Agreed. n/t

[Chan790]

26. Respectfully...

he has some questionable law and order stances I'd like to see him address before I'd be comfortable with him. Likewise, having known him since I was in college, he has never struck me as an economic progressive as much as an economic pragmatist who thinks strategically.

All of that is a good start but I have concerns that's all as far as he's willing to go because he thinks that's as far as he needs to go to left-flank Hillary while remaining acceptably-moderate to appeal to the wishy-washy center. I don't hear a lot of social or economic justice foundations as much as a policy prescription...I don't trust people whose positions are not anchored in values but what they believe will work...they tend to change their prescriptions as their perspective changes...and rarely for the better.

[elleng]

30. Seems that you've missed virtually ALL of his programs, past and proposed.

He is SOLIDLY socially and economically progressive.

FIRST:
1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

AND MUCH MORE info here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1281

[Chan790]

61. Ellen? You're aware I interned on his 1st Baltimore mayoral campaign...

I've personally known the man (as in first-name basis: "Hey Marty! Good to see you." "Hey _____, how are your parents?&quot longer than most Marylanders have known who he is. Stating his accomplishments as response to questions about his seemingly-weak underlying sincerely-held values as opposed to a technocratic ideal of doing what works does him no favors...it really proves that argument against your candidate. (It doesn't help that I know him and know that "this works so we're doing it" is something he would say. Results over principles isn't bad per-se, but it is something I'm wary of from anybody.)

It does nothing to get us past his past drug-warrior mentality and implementation of policing initiatives during his time as Mayor of Baltimore that created the aggressive policing environment and community distrust of law-enforcement that indirectly led to the Baltimore riots less then a year ago.

[FSogol]

63. How do you conflate "drug warrior mentality" with decriminalizing marijuana and doubling resources

for drug treatment? While O'Malley was in office, police shooting in Baltimore were at an all-time low. To blame O'Malley for the Baltimore riots is to cut a huge pass for the people who were in office for the last 7-1/2 years.

[lovemydog]

49. I think his values and his policies are in a great place.

You can read more about his proposals for Wall Street reform and radical criminal justice system reform in the O'Malley group. I think you'll really enjoy it there. He's been releasing some detailed proposals that are genuinely inspired, and deeply rooted in social and economic justice foundations, imho. That's an interesting point you raise though, and I'm actually thinking about that a lot too, when I look at all the candidates.

[frylock]

21. absolutely..

I think he'll do well in the debates.

[elleng]

23. He'll do VERY well in the debates,

which is why tptb have scheduled debates as they have, and imposed unreasonable restrictions on participants.

[last1standing]

24. We definitely agree there.

ALL of our candidates should have a platform on the national stage to tell the people about their policies BEFORE the vote solidifies based on name recognition. It's not only bad for the party to attempt such dirty tricks, it's bad for the nation because it may rob us all of the chance to elect the best person for the job.

[frylock]

25. I really like that he's pushing back on that..

he strikes me as guy that doesn't tolerate a lot of bullshit.

[elleng]

28. He DOESN'T!

Check THIS out! So glad you mentioned it!

'Finally, a Democrat who calls “bulls**t”: Martin O’Malley drops a profane truth bomb on GOP’s deranged economic policy.'

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/21/finally_a_democrat_who_calls_bullst_martin_omalley_drops_a_profane_truth_bomb_on_gops_deranged_economic_policy/

This is ONE indication of why he should be President, a person of CHARACTER!

[DebJ]

43. Nice article thanks for sharing. nt

[elleng]

44. Happy to share good news, DebJ.

[lovemydog]

55. So do I.

I think he's raring to go with debates.

It will be riveting, in my opinion, seeing him square off with Bernie & Hillary. Three excellent debaters.

[seabeyond]

31. yes. nt

[elleng]

12. HAHAHA! Born in Washington, DC, so

with no voting rights in Congress, maybe they WILL decide he's ineligible!!!
My daughters too???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O%27Malley

[last1standing]

14. AHA! That's exactly what O'Malley needs! A good faux scandal!

O'Malley isn't a US citizen because he wasn't born in any of the 50 states!

I bet if you floated that on some conservative sites, they'd jump on it.

[elleng]

16. Yes they would, and I ain't gonna float it!!!

[last1standing]

19. You sound more like a Christie supporter or a bad Joe Pesci impersonator.

There probably the same person based on his polling.

[kwassa]

27. Fuck Christie. Vote for O'Malley.

[lovemydog]

50. Oh fuck, I got your fuckin' joke!

I don't know why it was fuckin' hidden. I thought it was funny as fuck!

[Raine1967]

29. Well played!

Truth be told, I have the mouth of a sailor in real life.

[HFRN]

33. perhaps 'third way' means 'after USA and Mexico'

maybe I've misjudged him

[elleng]

35. What does 'after usa and mexico' mean?

Trying to figure out 'third way?' Ask hrc and big dog, maybe.

[HFRN]

36. 1st USA, 2nd Mexico 3) third - THIRD WAY nt

[elleng]

37. Here:

http://www.c-span.org/video/?17869-1/democratic-leadership-council-keynote-address
http://www.c-span.org/video/?287046-1/tribute-democratic-leadership-council-founder-al

[Raine1967]

38. You keep repeating this over and over again

and are nicely corrected over and over again.

Perhaps you have misjudged things. HE's not DLC or third way. You have been given links to disprove whatever you are trying to convince people of EVERY time you keep posting this picture.

[Andy823]

64. UNREC

[HFRN]

65. oh NO....I've been 'Unreced'!

whatever am I to do?

[OnyxCollie]

45. Didn't the US annex Canada a few years back?

[Ken Burch]

46. I'm still trying to get my head around the concept of their BEING "a lot of O'Malley supporters".

Nice guy, but at 1% in the polls, his backers are still "the few, the proud".

As a survivor of the Kucinich campaigns, I can relate.

He's looking more like running-mate material at this stage.

[lovemydog]

56. That's true Ken.

I read today that no one has ever had the lead that Hillary enjoys and not won the party's nomination. Yet crazy things can happen. One never knows. If he does well in the debates he'll start getting great media. I know his chances are somewhere between 'not a snowball's chance' and 'someone else could die or something.'

From what I've seen of him I think he's an inspired breath of fresh air both in terms of his youth and enthusiasm and in terms of the substantial policy his team is consistently proposing. I hope he'll be a positive force for Kennedy-style liberalism for years.

[Ken Burch]

57. Not true. HRC had a lead just as large in the fall of '07.

It slipped away in the debates. Which is why DWS is so obsessed with limiting the number of debates.

[lovemydog]

58. I read it in the Nate Silver article today

on 538. That's my only source, but that's what he said.

[elleng]

59. History is full of times when the inevitable frontrunner is inevitable right up until

he or she is no longer inevitable," he said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-29/martin-o-malley-takes-aim-at-hillary-clinton-s-crown-

This is the attitude that keeps him going.

[lovemydog]

60. Exactly.

A buddy of mine from Australia was telling me today that our crazy circus of presidential elections is so unpredictable that it can make for great entertainment. I tend to agree.

[lovemydog]

47. It's outrageous.

O'Malley supporters appear interested in inspired, workable liberal policies.

I don't know how they can live with themselves.

[elleng]

48. :hug:

!!!!

[lovemydog]

51. Let's have some brewskis

& watch hockey, eh?



(No disrespect to our wonderful neighbors of the north!)

[elleng]

54. HA!