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Bernie Keeps on Rising, Hillary...not so much.... (Original Post) V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 OP
The first primary is much closer than a year away. Agschmid Aug 2015 #1
Yeah i know... V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #4
The brown line and the fuchsia line are on a collision course musiclawyer Aug 2015 #2
nor should clintons number rise. her highest was when she had no competitors. now that there are seabeyond Aug 2015 #3
It is to early, we need to see a couple debates first. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #5
ME thinks that her name recognition is loosing to her policy recognition. Vincardog Aug 2015 #9
Moving the dial on national polling is tough to do; it's usually the last to move. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #6
Bernie is who Obama was supposed to be. daybranch Aug 2015 #7
Agreed. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #8
Bernie is the progressive Obama SAID he was. The Diff is Bernie is not lieing Vincardog Aug 2015 #10
And his record reflects that. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #12
/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Aug 2015 #11
+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #16
You know, it is really easy to check. Obama was 15% or less behind Clinton all through August 2007 Godhumor Aug 2015 #17
Gallup has her up 29-pts in Oct 2007. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #19
But we're not talking October, yet Godhumor Aug 2015 #20
That spread extended through 2007. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #21
Having second thoughts about her. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #13
Hillary is doing fine. leftofcool Aug 2015 #14
.... Cherry Creek Native Aug 2015 #15
Baghdad Carville.. frylock Aug 2015 #18
Nope. She is right where we want her to be. leftofcool Aug 2015 #22
What? According to your own link, she... SonderWoman Aug 2015 #23
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. nor should clintons number rise. her highest was when she had no competitors. now that there are
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:51 PM
Aug 2015

competitors they are gonna end up more inline with a primary.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. It is to early, we need to see a couple debates first.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:59 PM
Aug 2015

But one thing that did catch my eye is the two CNN/ORG polls. She went from +37 to +18 in about three weeks.

That is roughly a 50% reduction in her lead in a short period of time.


Again, to early to know anything but it does look like her name recognition support is beginning to evaporate.




 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
6. Moving the dial on national polling is tough to do; it's usually the last to move.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:02 PM
Aug 2015

At this time in 2007, Obama was a good 25-points behind.

What Bernie has done is remarkable.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
7. Bernie is who Obama was supposed to be.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:36 PM
Aug 2015

Obama was a centrist with little experience and no actual unified economic philosophy, and a believer in his ability to make deals. Much like Bill Clinton. Like Clinton once in Office deals that supported rich donors and often outweighed the economic good of our people.
Bernie is the very very smart progressive we had hoped Obama was. He will never make us guess over his decisions on things like the Keystone Pipeline. Bernie is a straight arrow, putting progressive values and people first.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
20. But we're not talking October, yet
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:24 PM
Aug 2015

We're talking August. Let's see what the spread between Bernie and Hillary is in October, because it is just as possible that Bernie plateaus or Clinton consolidated more support by then; especially when Biden declines to enter the race.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
21. That spread extended through 2007.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:42 PM
Aug 2015

Not sure why you're so anxious to engage in historical revisionism, but the data isn't negotiable.

She started with a 45+ point lead in 2007 before she even took off her coat, spent $100 million by the end of 2007, and had control of the Democratic Party machinery. She had every conceivable advantage. She didn't just lose, she pissed it away vis a vis poor campaign management and stooping to unsavory tactics.

And she's headed for another defeat as a consequence of her reckless behavior at State. This again by her own hand.

 
15. ....
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:06 PM
Aug 2015


(I'm sorry, but that's what it sounds like... when Clinton's campaign is on a collision course, representing a repeat of 2008)

 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
23. What? According to your own link, she...
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:01 PM
Aug 2015

Is basically in the same spot as when she started, 58 then, 54 now. Bernie started at zero and had nowhere to go but up.

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