I for one am glad that camp weathervane is attacking Bernie supporters

[hootinholler]

When I say camp weathervane I'm not just talking about DU, either.

It really means they got nothing to attack Bernie with. So if they want to call me a racist misogynistic volvo owner and all around general poopyhead. Fine with me!

They. Got. Nothing!

It means their candidate's policies don't hold a candle to Bernie's. It's obvious their candidate has a history of evolution driven by focus groups and the political winds.

Go ahead. Bring it. I'm happy to be Bernie's surrogate target for the poo flingers.

In the end, when Bernie is nominated, I can shower and watching the steam leaking from ears will be some sweet schadenfreude.

I'm off to my weekly meeting of Bernie supporters to figure out ways to get the word out.

[PatrickforO]

1. That's the thing. Eyes on the prize!

I too am happy to be Bernie's surrogate. Because these attacks are nothing more than the establishment's way of distracting us from noticing the REAL villains, who are picking our pockets and destroying the earth for just one more penny of profit.

This whole thing is Karl Rove to the max - make the strength seem a weakness, and sling mud because some might stick.

I don't drive a Volvo, though. Does that disqualify me?

[Fawke Em]

20. I'm Southern, female, married and I drive a Mustang.

If I'm qualified, you are!

[Plucketeer]

26. Hell - I drive a Studebaker

an' I'm DAMNED SURE qualified!

[Hotler]

58. Sweet! Please post a picture. n/t

[senz]

133. Wow.

Take care of that sweet antique.

[Plucketeer]

135. I took it for a jaunt today

it's a '57 PU truck with V8 and overdrive. I'm thinking of painting the rear fenders with Bernie Sanders slogans.

[Fuddnik]

37. I'm Scooter Trash. I ride a Hawg.

And a Hybrid Ford and a Chevy Volt.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

108. I'm mid-western. male, married, and I drive a Prius.

If I don't qualify, I don't know who is!

[beam me up scottie]

40. I drive a 20 year old Saturn and two horses.

Not at the same time of course.

Oh and I have a kayak.

Am I qualified?

[bvar22]

50. When the Saturn quits,

you WILL be able to drive them all at the same time.

[beam me up scottie]

51. This is true.

Then I'll be stylin!

[bvar22]

53. I'm laughing now,

....but that may not be too far in the future for most of us.

[beam me up scottie]

54. I used to ride a bike but there are no shoulders on the roads here.

Too damned dangerous.

If gas goes back up over $4/gal I may have to reconsider.

[bvar22]

55. I hear you about the bicycles.

I lived in Minneapolis for 7 years, and became addicted to bicycles. Min/St Paul is one of the most Bike Friendly cities in the US.
They have pulled up most of the RR tracks, and put in State of the Art Commuter Bicycle Paths.
You can go miles and miles without sharing the road with a car or runner.
Minneapolis even has Emergency Call Boxes on the Commuter Paths.



WE moved to the country in 2006, and I bought a Mountain Bike, but it wasn't the same.
#1...There are too many hungry BIG Country dogs who believe that eating bicyclers is great sport.

#2..On my Off Road bike, I cold NEVER relax. You have to watch for every little pot hole or rock or rut.
I loved getting on the asphalt that I knew ran for 10 miles...and just evaporate into the med zone.
I would "wake up" at the end.
Mountain Biking is NOTHING like that.
I miss the deep meditation I could access while riding a hybrid on dedicated Bike Paths.

I loved it so much, I rode through the Minnesota Winters with a set of studded ice tires.

[beam me up scottie]

56. That's beautiful.

Reminds me of Vermont where people ride all winter too.

I know what you mean about the meditative state, I've nodded off on a horse more than once. It's the rythym I think.

[SMC22307]

60. Studded ice tires?

You're pretty hardcore. Love that bottom pic in particular!

[bvar22]

63. I loved the studs,

the only drawback was that they were much harder to pedal on dry streets.

Many commuters in the Twin Cities did NOT use studs, and commuted all year.
That is because Minneapolis cleared and de-iced the bicycle commuter routes.

I liked to explore, so the studs were essential.
Many cars would leave their motors running for hours while parked at the curb. This would melt the ice under the car which would freeze into glazed ice (Black Ice) in the street....very dangerous without studs.

Only one thing to REMEMBER while rising studs.....
You do NOT have any studs on your shoes,
and if you absent mindedly or habitually and put put your food down when you stop,
you WILL Kiss the Ice.
(Everybody always found that funny.)
I didn't see what was so funny.
Ice HURTS.

[SMC22307]

64. Yes, it does. I wiped out a couple of times, landing right on my tailbone.

Youch!

I live in an area with an excellent trail network, but not much clearing or de-icing around my stretch. That's when I hop in my elitist white supremacist liberal Subaru.

[MuseRider]

101. Here ya go!

I'll be right there with you

[beam me up scottie]

102. That is funny!

A little awkward for the pony but cute.

[MuseRider]

103. I was looking for a better one

that was going around my horse friend group on Facebook, a trick horse and wonderful performance and it ended up sitting next to the trainer in the car and they drove out. It was amazing but this was just the right thing. Perhaps I should start training mine to pull? Would be a fun way to shop but it would take forever to get there and back!

[beam me up scottie]

104. I owned a Welsh trotter who used to sulky race.

They can really move.

And it sure beats walking.

[bvar22]

124. Watch that load distribution!

[MuseRider]

125. Oh my!

That poor thing.

[cali]

2. it is an attack on Bernie. and it perpetuates the lie

that he's not to be trusted by minorities in a typically sleazy, underhanded way.

[hifiguy]

22. And whose supporters started slinging that preposterous shit

right here on DU two days before Bernie even announced his candidacy?

Help me remember....

[Fuddnik]

39. Must protect the cult against all threats.

[sabrina 1]

86. And it failed. The hope was to discredit Bernie with lies BEFORE minorities got to know him for

themselves, hoping they would not look at his incredible record on Civil Rights. But I was never worried that it would succeed because AAs are very capable of doing that in spite of all the talking points. And they have.

See Li'l B eg, and what he said about switching from Hillary to Bernie. Eg, we are told here that what he did back during the Civil Rights Movement is 'irrelevant'. Really, well not so according to what I'm reading. Li'l B eg, was hugely impressed that Bernie marched with MLK and then, like many of us, wondered what Hillary was doing at that time. He wasn't impressed when he found out. He WAS impressed that Bernie isn't just talking, that he 'was an ally for all those years'.

I ignore the rhetoric for the most part, those insisting on trying to get some mileage out of an attempt to mischaracterize Bernie, are fewer and fewer and are best ignored.

I don't think we need to defend Bernie, his record is his defense. Not so with any other candidate in this race which is why the effort was so intense.

The truth never changes, and no one CAN change it.

[Bubzer]

90. I think you're right. Bernie's record is amazing. No other politician has anything like it.

Last edited Mon Aug 24, 2015, 09:19 AM - Edit history (1)

[sabrina 1]

91. Exactly, so all we have to do is make sure as many people as possible, get to know that record.

Let them try to smear a man with falsehoods, so easily proven to be wrong, and the only ones who will be hurt by that, are themselves. Already people are asking 'wth, this guy has been our ally for so long, why are they going after HIM'. Let THEM explain that, we meantime just have to keep on spreading the word about Bernie.

[corkhead]

3. ..."Then they fight you"...

I predict that they will soon go from the Gandhi quote on to running through the "7 stages"

[stevenleser]

100. Since you guys are fighting and laughing at Hillary, does that mean she is going to win?

That's the great thing about that Gandhi quote, you can always apply it to all sides in a conflict of any sort.

[corkhead]

105. I guess we'll know in the next 6 months or so.

[SonderWoman]

4. Maybe it's time for a walk and some fresh air.

I remember lurking here and seeing people call idol worship of politicians "creepy". Don't take it personally.

[chknltl]

13. Not sure who you feel is being idolized.

Speaking on behalf of most DUers, there is a list of values that we see as important to our nation moving forward. The candidate that comes closest to that list gets our support. We keyboard fight for that candidate. If that is what you call idol worship, well... we just have differing definitions I guess.

[SoapBox]

16. OMG OMG OMG!

Billy!

I've got goosebumps and just danced through the kitchen!

...with a Rebel Yell!

OT but couldn't resist...gonna run it again.

[bvar22]

52. There IS "Idol Worship" in the North East.

Some people insist that America's Poor, the Working Poor, and the Soon to be Poor….
..... are really doing well,
and have a bright future if they just keep voting for MORE "Free Trade", "Free Markets", and Market Based "Private" Big Business solutions.
They have "facts" to prove it from [font color=blue]Whitehouse.gov[/font]

The Pundits, Party Spokesmen, Talking Heads, Chamber of Commerce, and Centrist Big Business Democrats tell me that there is a NEW God in town.
They tell me that I can't SEE this new GOD because, like the old GOD, this one is Invisible too.

This new GOD is so ALL POWERFUL that when the "Free Market" makes a mistake, a Giant Invisible Hand reaches down from the heavens,
[font size=3]and CORRECTS the Market ALL BY ITSELF!!![/font]
There is No NEED for Regulations or Government Intervention to Keep things Fair.
There is NO NEED to protect Citizens, Consumers, Small Businesses, or The Environment.
There is NO NEED for Humans to get involved AT ALL,
because the Invisible Hand will DO all that for us!

In fact, ANY interference from Governments, Consumer Groups, Organized LABOR, Workers Rights, Humanitarian Groups, and ESPECIALLY those whiny assed Environmentalists only makes things WORSE.
The Invisible Hand Knows ALL, and works BEST all by himself,
so we have to be careful NOT to interfere,
or it will Piss Him Off.

That is WHY our Democratic Party Leadership is working on another BIG "Free Trade" Deal, and have Locked Out all representatives from Labor Rights, Human Rights, Consumer Rights, Citizens, and Environmental Protection Groups so they don't Piss Off the Invisible Hand.
[font size=1]but Shhhhhh! They want to keep it a SECRET so everybody will be surprised,
and the Invisible Hand will be happy!!!
So don't tell anyone.[/font]

Here is a picture of the altar in this New Church where our Political Leaders, Democrat & Republican, all go to worship.

[font color=white]....................[/font][font size=4]The Graven Image on the altar
[font color=white].............[/font]of the Church of the "Free Trade"[/font]



I've been having a lot a trouble with this All Powerful Invisible Hand thing.
I think that maybe somebody just made all that shit up.
We've been sacrificing American Job, Wages, and Benefits to this new GOD for 30 years now,
Democratic Party & Republican Party,
and things are still getting WORSE for those of us who have to Work-for-a-Living.

[bread_and_roses]

97. Perfect! (n/t)

[hifiguy]

113. Outstanding.

There are two kinds of politicians right now, regardless of party.

Those owned by the corporations and those who are not. Ha-joon Chang's "23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism." Professor Chang neatly and wittily disposes of all the neoliberal talking points with straightforward facts and figures. No math or BS, just common sense analysis of objective facts.

[mmonk]

65. I'll take Billy.

[LiberalLovinLug]

17. Thanks for confirming the OP

So basically stating that you are not afraid of jabs against your preferred candidate is interpreted to someone like yourself as.....idol worship?

hootinholler ...you forgot to add....Go ahead and call us supporters creeps for standing with him. Water off the back.

[EEO]

27. I love that image in your signature lie. So awesome.

[LiberalLovinLug]

96. thanks!

Feel the Bern!

[Plucketeer]

29. Critisize?

For what?

[Live and Learn]

34. Cultists? See that is what we are talking about.

I don't really see any valid critiques of Bernie just asinine comments about those supporting him.

[beam me up scottie]

41. That's their third hide for calling people cultists.

Maybe they'll go for another and we'll all get a break.

No excuse for that kind of behaviour.

[cali]

35. And perpetuating the bullshit lie that Bernie's supporters idolize him

Congrats on repeating a dumb meme.

[TheFarS1de]

47. the only thing creepy around here ....

is your idolisation of Hillary while berating those who support someone else . You do know that people can read what you have posted previously ?

Also well done on keeping to form .

[sibelian]

84. Yeah, the whole "why the idol" thing is one of MY bug-bears.

And it's primarily aimed by me at people who seem to want superheroes to take over the political scene and pretend it's person X when person X does not appear to have any kind of Actual Plan beyond looking nice in front of cameras, saying comforting things and having a nice logo.

I don't really see how the Sanders phenomenon fits that criticism as he doesn't have nice hair or a spin machine and does seem to have some kind of Actual Plan and it is in fact those very things for which he is so highly regarded.

Whenever I see anyone say anything nice about Hillary, it's always got something to do with what an amazing personality she has and her personal qualities are so fricken regal and presidential and stuff and other garbage like that, like she's going to be in charge of a tremendously classy game show or something.

They really do seem to think that everybody in the entire United States has the IQ of a lobotomised cow.

I've never thought idolising anyone was "creepy". I've seen plenty of attributions of "creepy" pointed at LOTs of other things on this site, mind you. I've always thought of idolising politicians as just plain vacuous and depressing.

[TBF]

5. Excellent attitude -

and spot on!

[Uncle Joe]

6. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, hootinholler.

[beam me up scottie]

7. Mwah!

Say hi to the other racist misogynistic Volvo owners for me.

[Phlem]

8. K&R!

[roguevalley]

9. hottinholler, you are spot on. :D No specifics, just names.

[stupidicus]

10. yep, that's why I say

the only real justification for their mindless mewing is "she's better than any rightwinger"

as rightwing-lite imo

[sarge43]

11. I've always wonder what it would be like to be an elitist.

Huh. Just not working. Oh well, back to driving my 15 year old Saturn, living off my gov't retirement and Social Security, supporting as best I can civil and human rights and not hating myself or other women.

All around general poopyheads, unite. We have an election to win. Let's light some fires.

[JDPriestly]

19. My husband's Saturn finally gave up so he bought a 1990 Honda from a friend.

My luxury vehicle is a '96 Honda. I'm way ahead of my husband when it comes to owning the latest model.

Good for you. 15 years on your Saturn. My husband put on at least 20 I think. Good cars.

[sarge43]

24. Yes they are. A shame they didn't last.

My hubby drives a 93 Geo Metro - he's a traditional elitist.

[Orrex]

12. If Bernie is nominated, then I will happily vote for him

In the more likely event that he is not, it will be interesting to see the subsequent commentary on DU and elsewhere.

[bvar22]

109. If Hillary wins the Primary,

I will respect the Rules of DU,
and leave,
and work hard to build something better.

[Orrex]

110. That attitude will pack the SCOTUS with Scalias.

You'll have your work cut out for you.

[bvar22]

111. I don't trust HIllary to nominate "Liberal" Judges.

She will pack the court with her Wall Street friends.

While Obama DID pick 2 decent appointees, he appointed "moderates" to replace Fire Breathing Liberals
like John P Stevens.

The end result:
The SuprememCourt is now MORE conservative that before Obama made his appointments.

I expect the same from Hillary.

[Orrex]

112. I don't trust Bernie to win the general election.

Further, if the stars align and he happens to win in November 2016, I have a hard time believing that he'll get any Liberal judges approved, barring some massive Democratic landslide in the Senate.

[bvar22]

123. Same goes for Hillary too, except she will meet the Republicans more than 1/2 way.

[Orrex]

127. So you'll be staying home for the general election?

[SoapBox]

14. Kicked!

Go Bernie!

[MissDeeds]

15. Excellent post, Hoot

I agree. They. Got. Nothing. And they know it.



K&R

[ancianita]

18. People will attack before they'll change their minds and revise their maps of reality. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

21. You probably are a 50something conspiracy theorist with a Grateful Dead hat,

Who goes to Sanders rallies with your MOM, lol

The crack journalism division at buzzfeed will get to teh bottom of it!

[beam me up scottie]

32. Are you sure you want to be seen in the same thread as us?

You could get commie cooties*.


* One poster said Bernie lived in a commune (he didn't - he lived on a kibbutz in Israel after graduating) and another was all upset about Bernie's honeymoon in Russia.

[Warren DeMontague]

36. sheesh. My wife lived on a Kibbutz, at one point.

And come to think of it, she's farther left than I am, on some issues.

[beam me up scottie]

38. So she knew it was really a commune?

The things you learn on DU, eh?

Oops, let a lil Canadian slip out there...

[Warren DeMontague]

119. she said the fruit was simply not to be believed.

but, yeah. It was basically like a one summer teenage deal; I don't think the politics really entered into it, I suspect she was more interested in partying with her friends in a country with a lax drinking age.

[PosterChild]

72. I'm not for it or agin it, but...

.... isn't a kibbutz a commune? How would you distinguish one from the other ?

BTW FYI I have lived in a commune and have nothing against those who have or are.

[beam me up scottie]

76. Well I'm no expert but the one Bernie went to was in Israel.

The "commune" he allegedly lived in was supposedly located in Vermont.

But it's all the same to red baiters.

Facts don't matter to them.

[PosterChild]

78. Yes a kibbutz, almost by definition, is located . ..

.... in Israel . And calling such an experience a commune in Vermont is a blatant deception. However, red baiters won't have to use such tactics. Bernie is a self described socialist, so they just have to point that out. Game over.

[beam me up scottie]

79. They have to go much further here.

And they have.

I expect it will only get worse.

[PosterChild]

80. Yes, on DU, i guess, but.,

...in the primaries and / or a general election, the socialist label will be the end of the road. A self inflicted fatality.

[eridani]

93. Bullshit. They call Obama a socialist too. And they will call Clinton a socialist--

--if she gets the nomination. The term is getting to be like the washing machine churning that you ignore while you're paying bills or cooking dinner. You only notice when it stops.

[moobu2]

120. Yeah but Bernie Sanders is a real live registered socialist

not a made up boogie man one the Republicans made up. He lived on a commune, honeymooned in the Soviet union, visited Castro and other Central American dictators. Stuff like that and more. Once the media starts talking about all that Bernie's numbers will drop like a lead balloon.

[eridani]

121. Unless people turn out be be much more concerned about their declining standard of living

He'll just use the same approach that he used when he was asked about Clinton's hair. Can we talk about issues that the American people are concerned about? Can we stop demonizing public goods, which are in fact socialist in the sense that i mean the word?

Speaking of those declining living standards, Democrats are to blame almost as much as Republicans. The latter are constantly attacking them, and the former are too gutless to defend. Part of that gutlessness is cowering in the face of being called "socialist" just because you think public goods should be for everyone.

[merrily]

95. Not sure, but I believe Bernie did both, so no deception.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

25. Deja vu 2007

[artislife]

28. Rec'd

Because "camp weather vane" is the best term of the primary!!



2004 Kia that just had the engine light go on as I drove from Seattle to Portland to help a friend who had a bone graft from her pelvis to place in her ankle. They misdiagnosed a broken bone so it the bone died. They kicked her out of the hospital 12 hours after surgery. They don't care that she is single. They don't send any nurses to check on her. I have been spending every 3 hours around the clock giving her morphine and helping her to the bathroom. She was in so much pain, we called the call nurse line. They upped the morphine but wouldn't let her come back into the hospital.

That is my elite Latina life...I am helping a white woman so maybe I fit this stereo type somehow.

[passiveporcupine]

61. What Hospital did that? Providence?

That is possibly something she should see an attorney about. But first, if she had insurance, she should file a complaint with her insurance company against the doctor who misdiagnosed her and whomever is responsible for not following up on her care.

I'm sorry you had to do this, but good on you for being there for her.

And good luck with your car. My engine light has been going on for over 15 years now and it's getting worse...but my car is 28 years old now and it's still running. I'm just holding my breath, because there is no way I can afford another car, even used, and where I live I absolutely have to have a car to live. I'm ten miles from town with no other form of transportation.

I've been told by many people that engine lights going on are not usually a problem, unless you live in a place where you have to pass an emissions test.

[EEO]

30. I purchased my Bernie t-shirt last week. Hopefully it will be here soon.

http://www.thebernieshirt.com/products/bernie-2016-mens-t-shirt

[Enthusiast]

44. They only have men's in small?

[EEO]

74. They have a good range of sizes. Just need to change it.

[Enthusiast]

77. Thanks. Just a mental glitch on my part. One XXL on the way.

[pa28]

31. Kind of funny to read the long, epithet filled attack on Bernie supporters in the other thread.

Funny because it calls us all those awful things and says WE'RE the ones full of "zealous rabid hate".

Little bit of projection there I think.

[sibelian]

49. Oh, they're just cynical. The third way is all about cynicism.

What can't be done instead of what can.

[LovingA2andMI]

33. K/R!!!!

Proudly....

[jalan48]

42. Prius driving former janitor elitist. Power to the People!

[Enthusiast]

43. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

[2banon]

69. I really dig your sig line. especially the one way over to the ----->

Is that one available here, or is it a personal upload?

It just says it all really! Perfectly!

[Enthusiast]

71. That is one that I stole from someone somewhere.

I'm happy to share it.

[2banon]

122. Yes!!! Just reading it again sends me over the moon...

[NotHardly]

45. Summer 2015

Don't you all think it is a bit early to start killing and eating our own. I mean, maybe we should give the Republicans a bit more time to do it and then, just when we might win, we can cannibalize the party our candidate (who ever they are) and let it go to rot. Seriously, anyone out there got a bit more time for hate and misogyny... if so, sign up here with the Duers. We can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory... just so long as we don't ever elect a split tail (my reading of the posts in this DU thus far).

[rhett o rick]

46. Sen Sanders supporters are disparaged and attacked because the attackers are unable to even

discuss actual issues. Ask about fracking, XL Pipeline, drilling for oil in the Arctic, drone killing, NSA spying, GMO's, etc., etc.

[sibelian]

48. Camp Weathervane!

[hootinholler]

67. Indeed

I said her logo looks like a weathervane and AtomicKitten gave me this toy:

[sibelian]

68. hee hee hee

That's VERY pointed...

[L0oniX]

82. ^^^this^^^

[Zorra]

136. Perfect.

A weathervane that revolves evolves around the shaft.

[Jester Messiah]

106. Lovin' it. :-D [nt]

[hifiguy]

128. That is pretty much beyond a perfect descriptor.

[red dog 1]

57. Kicked!

I wonder how a Sanders//O'Malley ticket would do in 2016?

How about a Sanders/Grayson ticket?

I doubt if Hillary would go for a Sanders/Clinton ticket; but it would possibly "unite" the Party

I'm a Bernie supporter,
but I don't dislike Hilary
..I just think she has too many negatives to defeat the GOP candidate, whether it's Trump or Bush or any of the other clowns.

(btw, Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FLA) would be a great VP candidate, IMO...He would CRUSH any GOP opponent in the VP debates)

[PosterChild]

81. Bernie is a self described socialist, so...

...IMHO, there won't be Democratic ticket with him on it.

[red dog 1]

117. Actually, he describes himself as a Democratic Socialist,

but, IMO, he should become a Democrat, just to simplify things.

[PosterChild]

129. In broad pubic discourse, I think simple is best . ..

... and that distinctions and qualifiers like "democratic" are lost when a loaded term like "socialist" is used. Unless there is a very good reason to use it (and in my opinion there isn't), it should be a avoided and dropped.

[red dog 1]

132. You stated "Bernie is a self-described Socialist"

and I merely pointed out that you were wrong on that point, (which is an important point).

Bernie is a self-described "Democratic Socialist"...which is not the same thing.as "Socialist"

If I'm not mistaken, Bernie has stated that he might become a Democrat in order to win the Democratic nomination; and I wish he would do that as soon as possible.

Being a self-described "Democratic Socialist" might be fine if he merely wants to remain a senator from Vermont.
But if he really wants to defeat Hillary Clinton, and become the Democratic presidential nominee in 2016, he must, at some point, actually join the Democratic Party, IMO.

[PosterChild]

137. In the realm of electoral politics the qualifier,.,.

....isn't important at all. "Utopian ", "scientific ", "guild" - it doesn't matter . Nobody will care. The more it's explained the more he will become known as the "self-descrbed socialist" candidate . Then it's bye, bye bernie.

[eridani]

94. Not so sure about the downside of negatives, but I do know that she has no appeal to the 63% n/t

[7962]

98. For the love of GOD leave Grayson out of it. Walking trainwreck

But I agree with your "too many negatives' comment on Hillary. But that could also apply to grayson!

[red dog 1]

115. Grayson is a "Walking trainwreck"?

Please elaborate.
...I don't really know that much about him, except I liked everything he said in his many appearances on the Stephanie Miller radio show (Segment called "Face the Grayson&quot

[7962]

116. He's arrogant, his history with his wife, his name calling,etc

All enough of a negative for a lot of people.

[red dog 1]

118. Thanks, I'll check that out.

[brooklynite]

131. Add to that his offshore hedge funds.

[SMC22307]

59. "...their candidate has a history of evolution driven by focus groups and the political winds."

You know it, I know it, and they know it. Hell, didn't we just the other day have a failure of an OP re: "evolution"?

[BeanMusical]

66. Kickin' and Reccin'

[2banon]

70. Kickin' & a Recken'

[Old Codger]

73. An old country hick here

Live on a farm and drive a tractor (also a chev PU)

[sabrina 1]

75. I feel sorry for those who can't think of anything better to do than attack supporters of candidates

they don't support.

Meantime I am so busy PROMOTING my candidate, I don't have time to be so negative about someone else's.

Go Bernie, the easiest candidate to sell EVER!

[HappyPlace]

83. Winds are a-blowin'. Looks like a Bernado!

And it blows nuthin' but good!

[libodem]

85. Yep!

Pretty sure it has to do with the evolving of the evolution. If I remember the particular op.

[sabrina 1]

87. Well, there is no question that Bernie's record puts others' to shame, so it's natural they would

try to distract from the candidates on the ISSUES, I suppose.

Though frankly for me, it's MORE natural to support a candidate who has been right so many times when it mattered rather than have to try to excuse and explain my candidate's many, many wrong decisions, on some pretty major issues.

[Ken Burch]

88. I thought the Poo Fingers was Dave Grohl's band.

[MannyGoldstein]

89. I saw a Volvo yesterday in my town

I've hidden the liquor and armed all of our family, but it's only a matter of time until... until...

[DonCoquixote]

92. Camp Weathervane?

Look, I have an idea who you mean, and as i am banned from posting to that person's group because I refuse to ignore the fact that person ignores a lot of problems, I can be sympathetic with you, but frankly, your cause is NOt helped with statements like this:

It really means they got nothing to attack Bernie with. So if they want to call me a racist misogynistic volvo owner and all around general poopyhead. Fine with me!

If you go off in a huff, with a "FINE WITH ME" tude, it means that the supporters of a certain camp can point at you and go "see, they are just a bunch of whiny poopyheads who will throw tantrums when actually challenged."

[bvar22]

126. Or

...they could see an adult leaving the sandbox so the children can keep calling each other names.

[DonCoquixote]

130. leave the sandbox if you wish

but you know that is exactly what the GOP wants, because it makes sure that the kids are too busy arguing to not notice the GOP bulldozer that is ready to raze the playground, again.

[RoccoR5955]

99. But they keep preaching the same lies

over and over and over and over again.
Someone has to call them out on their lies!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

107. I've got your back - Bernie's too!

[Armstead]

114. You're a scurvy dog.

Arrrrrrrrrr...Back into Davey Jones locker with you.

[senz]

134. Great OP, hootinholler.

[George II]

138. Bookmarked

[jwirr]

139. I am a woman and do not own a car at all.

[Metric System]

140. Camp weathervane? Gee, with a title like that...Thanks for raising the discourse.

[hootinholler]

141. The more things change...