2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat's this "endorsement" thing?
We haven't got it in Scotland.
Is it like in being a secret club? Do you get cool stuff after being endorsed? Or does the endorsed person have to give YOU stuff? Or what?
I'm imagining a special, secret chamber of endorsement where the Endorserator, dressed in finest furry robes and a pointy hat, annoints the endorsed with an emormous, golden, fluffy endorsement stick in front of a sinister, wrinkly-faced crowd of steely-eyed endorsers.
Well, that's how we'd probably do it in the UK...
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Sadly all-too-true, but hilarious none-the-less.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Hillary has over 300 votes out of 4100 before the first vote begins. Not bad at all for her.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Like Trump says, "money now rules".
As it most definately will, if we don't somehow turn it around by electing Bernie.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Fellow senators from federal and state government who worked with her and I guess was impressed.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)same thing ... "impressed" is one way to see it.
I see it as more of the same 3rdWay BS that't gotten us into this pickle in the first place..
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Thanks for pointing that out.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Nothing different except perhaps your happiness.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)They helped put that winning Mondale ticket over the top.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)I have never been endorsed.I wish I were,but I'm not.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)it's like that.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Given that people seem to be curating lists...
HappyPlace
(568 posts)Spot on!
However, at "fluffy endorsement stick"!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)they approve of you and maybe some of that will rub off on you. Some people consider it important and other like myself don't think it adds anything to a candidate's gloss. for instance if Elizabeth Warren endorses anyone other than Bernie, it won't influence my decision to vote for him one bit.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Members. Martin has one endorsement from a Congressional member, Bernie, Webb, and Chaffee does not have any Congressional endorsements. Bernie and Hillary both have worked in Congress but no endorsements for Bernie.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Not feeding at the trough.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)In the future, Congress should be about teamwork but guess some don't.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)telling people, I like this person and they are qualified for office.
Usually for papers this is a decision of the editorial board. And to be quite honest... they carry some weight, depending on the person, but not as much as people think.
If an artist gets behind the candidacy for candidate A, and they are well known, it carries more weight with regular joes than if a Congressman or Senator does. On the other hand (at the presidential level) that congressional endorsement will carry a lot of weight with party faithful and the machine.
Labor unions, your mileage will vary.
I used to think they were more influential than they really are.
And to make a point about Citizens United and money in politics, we were considering endorsing Big Money. I doubt we will do that.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)Just as we have casino capitalism in the States, we've also got kind of a casino politics. Lots of advertising, image development, branding, handicapping and polling. Endorsements are part of this, and nobody wants to endorse one who may not win, especially one who hasn't participated in all the aforementioned bullshit.
Sometimes endorsements can just indicate cowardice.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Hillary is the presumed favorite by a LOT.
And THAT is the reason she has endorsement.
It's like the mafia. Rematch the Godfather. You'll get it.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)I was kind of assuming that if it was widely recognised as a back-scratching exercise, the last thing supporters would want to do is list endorsements...
delrem
(9,688 posts)Also, endorsements of candidate B from elected officials of the Dem party means an automatic "superdelegate" vote for B in the primary election - a fact which, when considering the proportion of superdelegates, heavily weighs the result. So the primary isn't purely democratic, superdelegates having at least the theoretical ability to, en masse, supersede a clear majority of primary voters.
This obviously weighs in favor of big moneyed candidates representing the establishment, the status quo.
oasis
(49,365 posts)No.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Hmmmm.
That article's title has caught me out, I must say... That looks to me more like a list of people who were for and against the concept of Scottish independence, I recognise the two sides well, but I don't think I'd have described anyone on either list as being an "endorsement" and certainly didn't see the term used in any official sense in the UK media, nor the bits of social media that I was looking at at the time. "Supporter" or "critic" is what you would be most likely to see, I think.
The reason I'm asking is that people seem to be curating lists of endorsements for Hillary and I didn't really know why or what it meant. I don't recall anyone doing anything similar over here and wondered if endorsement lists were a more recognised phenomenon in the States and/or had any official or semi-official standing in the eyes of the populace as a means of understanding the candidate/issue.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)was a headline in the Scottish Daily Record. So the media there certainly uses the term, even though you have not encountered it.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/two-faced-sun-newspaper-endorses-snp-5606256
BooScout
(10,406 posts)Both in the Guardian and on the BBC....but then again I'm in Wales and an American so the term is probably more familiar to me and did not go unnoticed.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Never heard it used in anger in serious discussions...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Super delegates can influence the way a particular state votes.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)From a person it's simply a Hey this guy would make a good president. Influential endorsers might be favored by a future administration because no candidate would ever promise a future position for an endorsement. That would be rather shady now wouldn't it. Almost as shady as keeping a shit list by a candidate.
From an organization, it's we recommend all of our member vote thus. Some endorse a candidate from each party having memberships that cross parties.
From a press organization, it's up to the editor or the owner to endorse anyone.
In this case, Bernie won't be swayed by who endorsed his candidacy so there's no up side to coming out for him. Clinton is known to hold a grudge so endorsing Bernie is all downside if she wins the primary. If you consider that Bernie peeps will show their appreciation at the poll, that could be an upside.
Off Topic, Slainte Cousin.