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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 07:50 PM Aug 2015

WOW !!! - Hillary Clinton: "No Evidence" Joe Biden Could Steal Her 2016 Support - CBSNews

Hillary Clinton: "No evidence" Joe Biden could steal her 2016 support
By Stephanie Condon - CBS News
August 26, 2015, 6:13 PM

<snip>

Hillary Clinton, the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination, said Wednesday she has "seen no evidence" that Vice President Joe Biden would freeze some of her Democratic support if he were to jump into the race.

The former secretary of state also told reporters in Iowa that Biden has yet to fill her in on how seriously he's considering his own White House bid.


"And I have not asked for that," she added. "I just want the vice president to decide to do what is right for him and his family," she said.

Clinton stressed the hardships Biden has endured, including the death in May of eldest son, Beau.


"It has to be really really hard for him," she said. "I was at his son's funeral, I can't really imagine the grief and the heartbreak."

Clinton said she as "a great deal of admiration and respect" for Biden. "He has to make a very difficult decision for himself and his family, and he should have the space and opportunity to decide what he wants to to."

Biden is expected to make that decision by the end of September...

<snip>

More: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-no-evidence-joe-biden-could-steal-2016-support/




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WOW !!! - Hillary Clinton: "No Evidence" Joe Biden Could Steal Her 2016 Support - CBSNews (Original Post) WillyT Aug 2015 OP
(bernie)... bernie... Bernie... BERNIE! HappyPlace Aug 2015 #1
This is encouraging for all of us. The mass media is now covering and distorting Democratic Party primary Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #2
Maybe... But When They Use Quote Marks... Is Usually Means That That's What They Said... WillyT Aug 2015 #4
poorly written. i have seen no evidence and i have not asked for that. seabeyond Aug 2015 #6
Any article with a chopped up quote followed by a solemn analysis and opinion of the chopped speech is a red Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #19
BB put up the video. watch that. such the fuckin opposite of what is being created here. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #28
Sorry, I miss the point of the OP. Can you explain? George II Aug 2015 #3
exactly. this is not the first OP and like, something is suppose to be mouth dropping. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #7
Sounds Too Much Like This... WillyT Aug 2015 #8
"There are a lot of people that are just going 'Really? You guy's can't get anything done? seabeyond Aug 2015 #20
she talks about caring about biden, and concerned seabeyond Aug 2015 #23
She's probably right... SonderWoman Aug 2015 #5
The polls with and without Biden suggest only slight differences, votes go to OMalley or Webb HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #13
Huh? I don't get the "wow." Metric System Aug 2015 #9
There Are Things... Better Left Un-Said... WillyT Aug 2015 #10
Well that certainly clarifies things. Metric System Aug 2015 #16
It Started With One Of Her Supportes/Surragates... WillyT Aug 2015 #18
If Joe's runs, I predict Hillary 56% Joe 50% Sanders 1% leftofcool Aug 2015 #11
Maybe... Did You Read This: WillyT Aug 2015 #14
107 % voting would suggest electoral fraud HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #15
:) WillyT Aug 2015 #17
It's a consequence of living in Wisconsin. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #21
Here is the video with no cuts boston bean Aug 2015 #12
Thank you for adding this video for clarity, bb KMOD Aug 2015 #22
Without the chopped up quotes one might think otherwise...which I guess was the whole point. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #26
So I guess thats explain her full position and not the wordsmithed clips people believe she said. Historic NY Aug 2015 #32
Welp, there goes another fake HRC smear MaggieD Aug 2015 #25
thanks BB. i am seeing another OP of his he linked to. so fuckin chopped i cant make heads or tail seabeyond Aug 2015 #27
Welcome. Happy to help cut through the shit at any time! LOL boston bean Aug 2015 #29
gosh BB, difference between night and day, darkness and light, good and bad. lol. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #31
Funny how every time Clinton makes a statement BainsBane Aug 2015 #38
uh huh. And it's so easy to debunk. boston bean Aug 2015 #40
lol? nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #42
Doesn't Fox News do this? leftofcool Aug 2015 #44
Two versions of a possible statement by Clinton (fiction, not real): George II Aug 2015 #45
AP left out entire paragraphs of a single facility nuclear inspection agreement...to try to boost the GOP! Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #48
Thanks bosotn bean. William769 Aug 2015 #35
I don't see what could possibly be wrong with that response BainsBane Aug 2015 #36
Thanks for the clarity, boston bean. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #39
thanks BB. I am riversedge Aug 2015 #53
i watched the video. i am appalled that you made it out the way you did. i am seeing another seabeyond Aug 2015 #24
Reading Is Fundamental... Complain To CBS... WillyT Aug 2015 #30
Look Claire... I Know His Son Recently Died, But Really... REALLY ??? seabeyond Aug 2015 #33
I Try To Put The Source In The Subject Line... If It Fits... WillyT Aug 2015 #37
"WOW!" CBS? But, seriously, we should all complain to CBS for this and a lot more, that I am with you 100%! Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #34
Add that to those saying HRC should drop out of the race. The video shows she won't. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #41
Hillary had a great news conference, was handled just as she does others. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #43
This is a very deceitful OP moobu2 Aug 2015 #46
Glad You Liked It... WillyT Aug 2015 #47
I didnt say I liked it but I've sure come to expect deceit moobu2 Aug 2015 #49
oh now I'm really feeling the Bern olddots Aug 2015 #50
Where is the quote please. I only see pharphasing, editorializing and commentary riversedge Aug 2015 #51
BB put up the video. NOTHING what this article is saying or OP is implying. seabeyond Aug 2015 #52
I don't know what the Hillary supporters are so excited about. senz Aug 2015 #54
I guess she doesn't bother to check polls jfern Aug 2015 #55
She's correct Renew Deal Aug 2015 #56

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. This is encouraging for all of us. The mass media is now covering and distorting Democratic Party primary
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 07:53 PM
Aug 2015

candidates statements based on "words clipped from whole sentences".

"There is no such thing as bad publicity"....how much more obviously true is that old maxim lately?

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
4. Maybe... But When They Use Quote Marks... Is Usually Means That That's What They Said...
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 07:56 PM
Aug 2015



 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. poorly written. i have seen no evidence and i have not asked for that.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 07:59 PM
Aug 2015

is that is what she is saying. the quote was so chopped up to get a

from people.

her full statement was perfectly fine, nice, professional. i gotta assume the other part was too, but media had to make something out of it.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. Any article with a chopped up quote followed by a solemn analysis and opinion of the chopped speech is a red
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:20 PM
Aug 2015

flag for me...always. Not respecting context gets no respect from me from anyone or source...it is inherently dishonest.

They are not called "scare marks" for nothing.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
28. BB put up the video. watch that. such the fuckin opposite of what is being created here. nt
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:31 PM
Aug 2015
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. exactly. this is not the first OP and like, something is suppose to be mouth dropping. nt
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:00 PM
Aug 2015
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
20. "There are a lot of people that are just going 'Really? You guy's can't get anything done?
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:20 PM
Aug 2015
"People are really aggravated at the government right now," McCaskill, a Hillary Clinton supporter, told CNN's "New Day" on Wednesday. "There are a lot of people that are just going 'Really? You guy's can't get anything done? All you do is fight.'"


what is this bullshit. i get posts of yours and i have to peruse the story to see if the "quote" is accurate. where in that article did you find

Look Claire... I Know His Son Recently Died, But Really... REALLY ???
i will waste my time perusing article agian, but i saw that... like, NOWHERE

did you make it up?

surely not
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
23. she talks about caring about biden, and concerned
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:23 PM
Aug 2015
"I'm worried if he does and doesn't do well, it will be hurtful to him, and we all care about him deeply," McCaskill said.


nope. looked again.

you made up a fuggin bogus quote?
 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
5. She's probably right...
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 07:58 PM
Aug 2015

The not-Hillary crowd already chose sides. If anything, Biden getting in the race would peel support from the not-Hillary candidates.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. The polls with and without Biden suggest only slight differences, votes go to OMalley or Webb
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:15 PM
Aug 2015

or they do not.

Sanders isn't much impacted by Biden, but he might be cut back by Warren coming in.

I think it's pretty clear that Clinton has rock solid support somewhere around 40% give or take, unless she gets indicted.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
21. It's a consequence of living in Wisconsin.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:21 PM
Aug 2015

I can't turn off my YOU-ARE-CHEATING!!! radar.

But sometimes there REALLY IS a person out there cheating.

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
12. Here is the video with no cuts
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:15 PM
Aug 2015

start at 3:28 listen, then forward to 7:28 to hear the remarks as they were actually spoken, not sliced and diced for some ridiculous news article, spamming for clicks.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
22. Thank you for adding this video for clarity, bb
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:23 PM
Aug 2015

Classy, and professional, as usual.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
26. Without the chopped up quotes one might think otherwise...which I guess was the whole point.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:29 PM
Aug 2015

I second your thanks...for Truth.

Folks need to get it that this kind of distortion of free speech stuff does Sanders, or the Party, no favors.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
32. So I guess thats explain her full position and not the wordsmithed clips people believe she said.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:40 PM
Aug 2015
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
25. Welp, there goes another fake HRC smear
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:29 PM
Aug 2015

Right down the toilet. It does get old though.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
27. thanks BB. i am seeing another OP of his he linked to. so fuckin chopped i cant make heads or tail
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:29 PM
Aug 2015

to see if i missed something, or just blatantly dishonest.

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
29. Welcome. Happy to help cut through the shit at any time! LOL
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:34 PM
Aug 2015

Helps to actually see and hear for oneself, no?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
31. gosh BB, difference between night and day, darkness and light, good and bad. lol. nt
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:39 PM
Aug 2015

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
38. Funny how every time Clinton makes a statement
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 09:28 PM
Aug 2015

Someone manages to clip out certain parts, sometimes out of context, other times simply trying to may hay out of nothing. Or they post an article and leave out central paragraphs with key facts essential to an understanding of the story, as though the whole truth doesn't suit their purposes.

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. Two versions of a possible statement by Clinton (fiction, not real):
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 10:19 PM
Aug 2015

What she might really say: "I hate the way the press is treating Bernie Sanders during this campaign."

How the press might portray it: "I hate...Bernie Sanders."

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
48. AP left out entire paragraphs of a single facility nuclear inspection agreement...to try to boost the GOP!
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 10:42 PM
Aug 2015

On purpose they left highly relevant paragraphs out to push an agenda that coincidentally coincided with the GOP...funny how that happens!

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
36. I don't see what could possibly be wrong with that response
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 09:24 PM
Aug 2015

Or why some think choosing particular snippets helps them make a case against Clinton.

One point she continually makes is worth nothing. She says, I hope to "earn the votes of as many people as I can." Voters' support indeed has to be earned. It is not due anyone, as some seem to assume for their own candidate.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. i watched the video. i am appalled that you made it out the way you did. i am seeing another
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:28 PM
Aug 2015

interview you chopped the hell out of to make it something it wasnt.

she was very caring.

that is horrible

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
33. Look Claire... I Know His Son Recently Died, But Really... REALLY ???
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:41 PM
Aug 2015

where did that one come from on the other OP you link us to?

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
37. I Try To Put The Source In The Subject Line... If It Fits...
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 09:27 PM
Aug 2015

But I also mention them up top, and provide a link below...

So what's your point ???


Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
34. "WOW!" CBS? But, seriously, we should all complain to CBS for this and a lot more, that I am with you 100%!
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:43 PM
Aug 2015

Clinton is the victim of distortion now, who will it be later?

Even if it is someone else I will be here with the same observations....media distortions are not a "WOW!!!"...ever

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
41. Add that to those saying HRC should drop out of the race. The video shows she won't. n/t
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 09:35 PM
Aug 2015

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
49. I didnt say I liked it but I've sure come to expect deceit
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 10:48 PM
Aug 2015

from people who support Bernie Sanders. I'm not sure why you people feel you need to resort to that though.

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
51. Where is the quote please. I only see pharphasing, editorializing and commentary
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:47 PM
Aug 2015

in the article.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
54. I don't know what the Hillary supporters are so excited about.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:21 AM
Aug 2015

There's nothing unflattering in the OP quotes.

What I find interesting is that Joan Walsh, a serious Hillary supporter, wrote a hit piece on Joe Biden this morning. She does not want him to run. No sirree.

Gee, I wonder why?

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/26/the_case_against_joe_biden_2016_why_remind_democrats_hes_even_less_liberal_than_hillary/

jfern

(5,204 posts)
55. I guess she doesn't bother to check polls
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:44 AM
Aug 2015

Even though she's spent over $1 million on them.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
56. She's correct
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:51 AM
Aug 2015

Te polling shows that she takes a little from both her and Sanders, and isn't that close to either.

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