For Hillary Clinton, Email No Longer A Joking Matter - CNN

[WillyT]

For Hillary Clinton, email no longer a joking matter
Dan Merica and Eric Bradner, CNN
Updated 9:28 PM ET, Wed August 26, 2015

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Ankeny, Iowa (CNN) - Hillary Clinton on Wednesday reversed course in her handling of questions about her private email server when she was secretary of state. In recent weeks, she has either dismissed the controversy or joked about it. But on Wednesday she said she had made a mistake.

"My use of personal email was allowed by the State Department. It clearly wasn't the best choice. I should have used two emails -- one personal, one for work -- and I take responsibility for that decision," she said when asked at an Iowa event.

The answer shows much more contrition than she has of late, even acknowledging that she understands why people care about the issue.

"Well, I know people have raised questions about my email use as secretary of state, and I understand why. I get it," she said during a press conference at a local community college.

This is a departure for Clinton, who in past answers has been combative -- and at times joked -- about whether the issue matters at all.

In Nevada earlier this month, for example, Clinton said her email use was normal.

"Everybody is acting like this first time this has ever happened. It happens all the time," she said.

When a reporter pressed her about the issue growing until Election Day, Clinton shot back, "Nobody talks to me about it, other than you guys."

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More: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/26/politics/hillary-clinton-iowa-rural-policy-2016/

[awake]

1. I am glad she stepped up

I only wish she acted this way when this news broke 6 months ago, but better late than never.

[frylock]

40. problem is that it's always better late than never with her

[oasis]

2. The e-mail media frenzy is itself, a joke on the American public.<nt>

[6chars]

3. i forgot to freak out

the way i see it, if there is something devastating, she would probably drop out. most likely, there won't be and this won't turn into anything other than innuendo. in the first case, i won't need to decide whether to support her, and in the second case, the emails aren't a factor. bottom line, i am not going to waste any brain space on this.

[Fred Sanders]

4. Clinton made a decision that on reflection looking backwards was perhaps not the best one? Who has ever

done that...not me!? Or anyone I know!

Not that it all makes any difference to anyone but those with axes to grind and witches to burn.

As an aside, using a dedicated server is far more secure than a personal computer or a government server environment....as Clinton has repeatedly stated and no one wants to report because few want context, everyone wants Twitter-bites.

"A desktop computer system typically runs a user-friendly operating system and desktop applications to facilitate desktop-oriented tasks. In contrast, a server manages all network resources. Servers are often dedicated (meaning it performs no other task besides server tasks). Because a server is engineered to manage, store, send and process data 24-hours a day it has to be more reliable than a desktop computer and offers a variety of features and hardware not typically used in the average desktop computer."

Anyway, the whole thing is such a joke that even the mass media is walking the whole thing back because it is of so little consequence to anyone except Republicans....and maybe some others.

Cue the Twitter-bite objections.....

[leveymg]

5. HRC just went the way of the Shah of Iran. J-Curve

Gets 'em every time. A little concession and the shit hits the fan.

[Thinkingabout]

6. The email scandal is a GOP scandal, we do not need to be doing the work of the GOP here on DU.

I even noticed Joe Scarborough has forgotten to say email, email, email, email.

[WillyT]

8. So... You Don't Care That This Might Be A Real Problem ???

Curious.

[Metric System]

9. No. Here's why...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141189805

[WillyT]

11. Oh Well... That Makes It Better...

The voters will have the final say.

[Andy823]

54. Yes the voters will have the final say

So why keep posting this crap day after day?

[AtomicKitten]

13. The IG disagrees which is why this was referred to the FBI.

http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFL1N10S1T820150817

WASHINGTON Aug 17 (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department has so far identified 305 emails from Hillary Clinton's private server used while she was secretary of state to be reviewed for potentially classified information, the agency said in a court filing on Monday.

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Clinton's use of her private email while secretary of state from 2009 to 2013 came to light in March and drew fire from political opponents who accused her of sidestepping transparency and record-keeping laws.

The FBI was looking into the security of the federal records and classified information contained among Clinton's emails. The U.S. government considers federal records to be government property.

The Justice Department has said the FBI investigation began after a government watchdog said at least four emails out of a sample of 40 he inspected contained classified information, including two that contained information deemed "top secret," the highest classification level.

[Metric System]

15. Keep wishing and praying. It's the only hope your candidate has.

[AtomicKitten]

22. Federal judge, a Bill Clinton appointee, on Hillary: “There was a violation of government policy."

[Metric System]

23. There was no firm policy about personal email use.

[AtomicKitten]

24. Try running that up the flag pole at the FBI. <nt>

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[Metric System]

25. Hillary is not under investigation by the FBI. I'm sure that gives you a bad case of the sads.

[AtomicKitten]

27. No, just the security of 305 of her emails. Patreus was convicted of a similar crime.

[Metric System]

28. Keep crossing your fingers or paws.

[AtomicKitten]

29. You too!

[MaggieD]

32. This is the same judge that tried to promote fake IRS scandal

[MaggieD]

31. Same idiot judge that tried to promote the fake IRS scandal

But I bet you didn't know that, right?

[AtomicKitten]

33. He's a Clinton appointee. The IG referred 305 emails to the FBI for security breaches.

[MaggieD]

34. No they did not

Try again.

[AtomicKitten]

35. The IG found 4 that contained classified data & referred the matter to the FBI. Them's the facts.

IG: Clinton’s Emails Included 'Classified Information;’ 30,000 Emails ‘Purported to Have Been Copied’ to Thumb Drive in Possession of Her Lawyer
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/ig-clintons-emails-included-classified-information-30000-emails

(CNSNews.com) – Four out of a sample of just 40 emails that were on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s personal email server “included IC-derived classified information,” according to a memorandum that L. Charles McCullough, III, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, sent yesterday to the chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees and to DNI James Clapper.

Additionally, McCullough said, “we were informed by State FOIA officials that there are potentially hundreds of classified emails within the approximately 30,000 provided by former Secretary Clinton” and that these 30,00 emails “are purported to have been copied to a thumb drive in the possession of former Secretary Clinton’s personal counsel, Williams and Connelly attorney David Kendall.”

“Since the referenced 25 June 2015 notification, we were informed by State FOIA officials that there are potentially hundreds of classified emails within the approximately 30,000 provided by former Secretary Clinton,” the IG informed the intelligence chairmen and the DNI.

“We note that none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings, but some included IC-derived classified information and should have been handled as classified, appropriately marked, and transmitted via a secure network,” the IG said.

“Further,” he said, “my office’s limited sampling of 40 of the emails revealed four contained classified IC information which should have been marked and handled at SECRET level.”

The IG said that he had “referred” the matter to counterintelligence officials at the State Department, in the Intelligence Community, and the FBI.

“As I advised in my 25 June 2015 notification, the 30,000 emails in question are purported to have been copied to a thumb drive in the possession of former Secretary Clinton’s personal counsel, Williams and Connelly attorney David Kendall,” said the IG. “As my office’s limited sampling identified four emails containing classified IC information, I referred this matter to counterintelligence officials at State and within the IC, including the National Counterintelligence and Security Center and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.”

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[MaggieD]

36. Again, no

A State Department spokesman late Tuesday described the top-secret designation as a recommendation and said they had not been marked classified at the time, but said staffers “circulated these e-mails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton.”

Nick Merrill, a Clinton spokesman, said Tuesday night that Clinton is cooperating with the FBI probe. He declined to say whether the FBI ordered that she turn over the devices and when her attorney, David Kendall, had done so.

“She directed her team to give her e-mail server that was used during her tenure as secretary to the Department of Justice, as well as a thumb drive containing copies of her e-mails already provided to the State Department,” Merrill said. “She pledged to cooperate with the government’s security inquiry, and if there are more questions, we will continue to address them.”


The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/top-secret-e-mails-were-sent-on-clintons-private-account-official-says/2015/08/11/f3117f08-403d-11e5-9561-4b3dc93e3b9a_story.html

[AtomicKitten]

39. Denial is really pointless but that seems to be your schtick here, so knock yourself out.

Exclusive: Dozens of Clinton emails were classified from the start, U.S. rules suggest
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

[MaggieD]

42. Facts are never pointless....

You were desperately trying to imply the FBI was after Hillary, and you got busted. They aren't.

[AtomicKitten]

43. Wonder why Joe Biden is considering jumping in the race? Think hard.

[MaggieD]

45. Probably the same reason he ran all the other times

He wants to be president.

[AtomicKitten]

47. 53% of Democrats want Joe to run.

[MaggieD]

48. Great - he should run

Maybe he won't lose for a third time. Who knows?

[AtomicKitten]

50. And her second faceplant is a work in progress.

[bornskeptic]

62. So you consider Conservative News Service a reliable source of information? n/t

[Fred Sanders]

38. Half-truth about the appointment.....do you even know the other half part? It is important.

Promoting this Bush man was a mistake, in the broadest meaning of the word, and in hindsight and out of historical context.

[MaggieD]

44. No shit - he's the rethug man in the DC court....

Charged with propping up their fake scandals. I'm disgusted that libs have been co-opted by tea party style nonsense like this.

[Fred Sanders]

46. Truly, but none I see are near as clever as they believe themselves to be in hiding their embrace of the dark side.

[Thinkingabout]

10. Where is the problem?

[cali]

12. her lousy judgment. again

[Thinkingabout]

16. I see, poor judgement, I will keep this in mind.

[madville]

26. 18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material is one problem.

The State Department messed up when it gave her attorney a safe to store the thumb drive in an unauthorized facility, especially now that it has come out he didn't have the proper clearance. A big question is also who specifically gave him the thumb drive?

[Thinkingabout]

30. Talking about a dog which doesn't hunt, the state department has already shot this down.

BTW, there was two innocent people killed today in Virginia. Gun violence is a problem.

[madville]

41. The State Department is involved in all this

I wouldn't think they would be admitting to any wrongdoing while the FBI is investigating the matter, of course it's going to be saying everything was done right.

I trust the FBI to honestly investigate the situation and make the right recommendations to DOJ either clearing everything up or selecting whoever to prosecute if need be.

Whatever happens I hope it comes down before the primaries start.

[MaggieD]

49. Oh brother

Nobody is going to be "prosecuted" - they are looking at States classification and document storage processes. For instance moving documents appropriately once they become retroactively classified.

SMH.

[short circuit]

52. Tell that to Petraeus. n/t

[840high]

61. +1

[Thinkingabout]

55. I trust the state department which has said there isn't anything illegal in the manner in which

Hillary did the emails, this has happened in the past. Of course, the GOP wants something to continue past the primaries and for myself this is a lot to do about nothing but to console the GOP, I don't need to console the GOP.

[short circuit]

51. No answer on pointed facts, and a change of topic = deflection

Classic Clinton supporter techinque.

[Thinkingabout]

56. Who changed the subject?

[short circuit]

57. You did.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251549337#post30

[Thinkingabout]

58. I am still talking about the emails, huh.

[short circuit]

59. Then you decided to change subjects to the tragedy...

in the content of that thread. It's deflection, plain and simple. Bye.

[busterbrown]

17. Come on Willy T..

This email thing is pure bullshit on the same level as Benghazi..

Anyone who does or will not vote for Clinton based on these pieces of crap investigations, would never vote for Hillary
under any circumstances..even if she was anointed by Jesus..

[Andy823]

53. The real problem

Is the fact that people who claim to be democrats keep pushing this shit for the GOP day in and day out. Why not try posting positive things about your candidate instead of posting all the dirt you can find on the "other" democratic candidates?

[840high]

60. You are wrong.

[Thinkingabout]

63. Time will tell, it is a scandal the GOP wants to continue fueling, if this was the first time the

GOP has pushed a scandal I would think differently. $7 million has already been spent on Benghazi investigations and by the time it ends who knows how much the cost will be. Hillary was not the first SOS to use personal emails and this is known. If the email is a problem to you then I have to conclude this is your opinion, it is not my opinion and this is much ado about having another scandal. There are so many more important problems than the emails, we are allowing the GOP to bypass the needs of this nation by fueling the email scandal.

[Zorra]

7. She said her Iraq War vote was a "mistake" also.

Big mistakes for someone trying to convince us she is qualified to be POTUS.

[HappyPlace]

14. Evolving...

...I don't have time for this shit, Zorra. Seriously.

We don't have time for an "evolver", do we?

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. "We came, we saw, he died." And now? Libya is a failed state and Syria is a quagmire.

Hillary's hand prints are all over them both.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. That crap where she pretended not to know what wiping a server meant- "what, with a cloth?"

that was painful to watch.

Certainly not the steely, battle-tested candidate who could crunch attack memes for breakfast that her supporters have been promising us.

It's good that she's taking it seriously, instead of trying to shrug it off.

[HerbChestnut]

19. I believed this whole email thing was nothing but BS until...

The FBI got involved. They usually don't pursue a case unless there's some merit to it. I guess we'll see, but in the meantime let's try and focus on real issues. There's plenty of reasons to be wary of Clinton other than her emails.

[Bonobo]

20. A Junior Manager at Target should know not to mix your business and personal emails.

It's not just stupid, it's really, really unprofessional.

[frylock]

37. shit just got real