2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTrump is for America what Arnold Schwarzenegger was for California.
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For all the hand-wringing by the GOP establishment over the "crazy outsider," it's hard not to see something oddly familiar in Trump's campaign.
In the early 2000's, California had our first Democratic governor after nearly two decades.
Deregulated electricity allowed energy traders to blackmail the state for billions. When Davis asked federal regulators to do their job, President Bush came out to personally tell him to fuck off.
Republicans then blamed Davis for the resulting deficit and the public believed them.
When they demanded a recall, the GOP had just one problem: voters were unlikely to replace him with a far right yahoo since the last Republican governor had demonized Latinos.
The solution? A celebrity who ran not so much as a Republican but as "post-partisan," Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Many of my community college students voted for him because they thought it would be a hoot to have their financial aid checks signed by the Terminator, and the local media was saying he was inevitable in any case.
Once elected, he screwed CC's so badly that faculty and students turned their back on him when he came to speak at graduation at Santa Monica College.
The GOP has used different methods to throw a monkey wrench into Obama's presidency, but they have wisely foregone the national equivalent of a recall (impeachment) since it failed so utterly when they tried it on Bill Clinton.
But they know decades of race-baiting and feeding the rich and starving the rest make it unlikely they'll retake the White House on the issues.
So what do they do? Reach for another celebrity whose bombast and personality eclipse the fact that he's spewing the same crap Republicans have for decades, with some random exceptions that are unlikely result in action if he is elected.
Trump might not only get a lot of angry white male votes in the general election but low information apathetic voters who think it would be a hoot to have a celebrity in the White House instead of a dull politician and those who sense we need radical change but don't have the time or intellect to figure out exactly which change we need.
Democrats need to take Trump seriously, or they will get their ass handed to them by a Terminator with a comb-over.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)him seriously, but Schwarzenegger had the establishment Republicans wholly behind him. I don't believe Trump does, unless he's part of a bigger plan crafted in some billionaire's bunker behind locked doors.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Yavin4
(35,423 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)they got cancer, they know it's going to kill them sooner than later, but they want to collect as many of the marbles as they can on their way out.
Timmy5835
(373 posts)If they can garner at least 37% of the Latino vote. What are the chances of that???? relax.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)percent will they jack up the Republican votes? My state is still using Diebold voting
machines -- after all these years! Do Democrats fight back hard enough?
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)33 states have their congress controled by Republicans.
And when you consider what happened in Kansas with their vote, we should not think Trump has no chance.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)we should be scared of his success with the
republican party, and more voters than just
those.
The terminator was very, very conservative;
but Trump is a fascist, riding on a xenophobic
nationalistic horse,proclaiming himself the
strong man, who can solve all problems.
Beware of people like that. As much as I
have been told that it cannot happen here,
it can happen everywhere, when the conditions
are right.
TexasTowelie
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