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Wed Sep 2, 2015, 06:22 AM

Bernie's got this! It's a lock!

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Reply Bernie's got this! It's a lock! (Original post)
DanTex Sep 2015 OP
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #1
JoePhilly Sep 2015 #12
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #16
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #17
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #20
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #22
Demeter Sep 2015 #32
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #49
840high Sep 2015 #54
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #47
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #48
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #50
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #60
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #62
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #64
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #66
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #68
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #69
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #71
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #73
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #78
Metric System Sep 2015 #70
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #72
Metric System Sep 2015 #75
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #77
Metric System Sep 2015 #79
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #81
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #83
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #85
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #86
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #87
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #89
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #91
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #92
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #93
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #94
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #76
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #80
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #82
whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #74
AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #58
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #61
AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #63
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #67
AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #88
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #90
Agschmid Sep 2015 #25
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #38
Agschmid Sep 2015 #40
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #41
ibegurpard Sep 2015 #24
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #27
ibegurpard Sep 2015 #33
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #36
virtualobserver Sep 2015 #53
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #59
JoePhilly Sep 2015 #21
kjones Sep 2015 #65
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #95
LWolf Sep 2015 #23
Adrahil Sep 2015 #34
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #39
Adrahil Sep 2015 #43
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #51
Fawke Em Sep 2015 #46
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #52
AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #96
quickesst Sep 2015 #44
BooScout Sep 2015 #2
tecelote Sep 2015 #3
lunamagica Sep 2015 #4
Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #5
Laser102 Sep 2015 #8
Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #10
tecelote Sep 2015 #11
TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #13
Agschmid Sep 2015 #18
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #19
freshwest Sep 2015 #98
DanTex Sep 2015 #26
wendylaroux Sep 2015 #57
PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #30
Duppers Sep 2015 #31
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #6
Agschmid Sep 2015 #9
1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #14
Agschmid Sep 2015 #15
retrowire Sep 2015 #7
demmiblue Sep 2015 #28
jalan48 Sep 2015 #37
SidDithers Sep 2015 #29
Android3.14 Sep 2015 #35
Gothmog Sep 2015 #42
onehandle Sep 2015 #45
Scootaloo Sep 2015 #55
Amimnoch Sep 2015 #56
Sancho Sep 2015 #84
freshwest Sep 2015 #97
PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #99

Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 06:28 AM

1. Ever More Bernie Bashing

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:41 AM

12. Looks more like he's making fun of some of Bernie's more ...

.... "enthusiastic" supporters.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:44 AM

16. As Was Said - Ever More Bernie Bashing

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:47 AM

17. Because Bernie is his supporters and his supporters are him ...

 

Oh, wait ...

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:50 AM

20. Because - The Democratic Establishment Is Working To Drag Bernie Down Any Way Possible

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:53 AM

22. Just like the left and the right are working To Drag HRC Down Any Way Possible ...

 

and this is from a non-HRC supporter.

Go M.O'M!

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #22)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:21 AM

32. Hillary doesn't need any outside help to drag down her candidacy

 

She's more than capable.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #32)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:31 AM

49. Okay. n/t

 

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Response to Demeter (Reply #32)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:06 PM

54. yep

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #22)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:12 AM

47. Have you ever posted an O'Malley OP?

It's interesting, your support seems to mostly consist of aid and comfort to the enemy.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #47)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:30 AM

48. Yes. I have ...

 

It's interesting, your support seems to mostly consist of aid and comfort to the enemy.


I have no enemies in the Democratic Party ... not even Liebermann or Landreau, back in the day.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #48)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:50 AM

50. Of course

we're talking about O'Malley's political enemy. Is it because he doesn't have a little 'D' behind his name that Sanders seems to be your enemy?

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #50)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:42 PM

60. HRC is not HRC's enemy, either. ...

 

Is it because he doesn't have a little 'D' behind his name that Sanders seems to be your enemy?


Bernie isn't my enemy, either. However, my lack of support for his candidacy, is unrelated to his not being a member of the Democratic Party. It's because I am more drawn to a candidate that has well thought out plans for addressing the issues that are important to me AND a record of working across the aisle to get things done.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #60)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:48 PM

62. Reading comprehension issue?

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #62)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:08 PM

64. Please place me on ignore. You, clearly, are posting to bait me into a fight. n/t

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #64)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:10 PM

66. Just trying to figure out

what your deal is.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #66)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:11 PM

68. Place me on ignore and it won't matter. n/t

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #68)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:15 PM

69. Nah, I've never put anyone on ignore

Carry on.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #69)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:19 PM

71. Then ... Please suppress the compulsion to respond to my posts. n/t

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #71)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:25 PM

73. Strange request

That sentiment is incompatible with the purpose of an Internet forum.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #73)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:36 PM

78. Apparently, so is common courtesy ...

 

Look you disagree with everything I write and think ... even when I haven't written it or thought it; but rather, you "reading between the lines" of what I "implied." You use your "spidey sense" to float communicate the voice in your head that I am a HRC supporter, when I have told you, repeatedly, I am not. You adjudge my posts pointless.

So why not save us both some time and knock it the fuck off.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #47)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:18 PM

70. Who is the enemy? Hillary? If that's what you're saying then...WOW.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #70)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:23 PM

72. But, apparently, I have reading comprehension problems ...

 

which my two undergrad degrees, my Master's Degree, my Professional Degree, my several national certifications, and my career success (and pay check) would seem to refute.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #72)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:32 PM

75. I can't believe Hillary is being described as the "enemy" on a Democratic forum. I didn't understand

the "reading comprehension" jab at you either, other than sheer nastiness.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #75)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:35 PM

77. For all intents and purposes

in a political contest Hillary is O'Malley's enemy. Check your silly faux outrage at the door.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #77)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:38 PM

79. She's his primary opponent. I don't think I've ever heard any candidate call their primary opponent

their "enemy." That is loaded language and it's use against a fellow party member would be questionable.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #79)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:39 PM

81. Sure, whatever you say

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Response to Metric System (Reply #75)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:41 PM

83. "Nastiness" would be one descriptor ...

 

but with that poster following me across several threads to share, a couple others might apply ... any one of which would get me a hide.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #83)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:44 PM

85. Go for it

Be strong 1SBM.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #85)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:49 PM

86. I'm pretty sure that you would like that; but, I won't ...

 

so you can put away the Kleenex or tube sock.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #86)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:51 PM

87. Ooh... I guess we've reached

Stage: Creepy.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #87)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:12 PM

89. No we reached with your obsessivefollowing me around across multiple threads. n/t

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #89)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:16 PM

91. Give me a break

If you really believe you're a victim and want to avoid the horror, why keep this exchange alive. Just walk away.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #91)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:22 PM

92. The wisest thing you have written ... EVER! ...

 

Bye.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #92)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:23 PM

93. Buh bye

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #93)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:32 PM

94. Bye. n/t

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #72)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:33 PM

76. Lol!

Internet citations of your accomplishments don't turn whatever you say into gold. Embarassing.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #76)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:38 PM

80. Keep it up! and you will some be hailed a "pillar of du". n/t

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #80)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:40 PM

82. Uh... ok

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Response to Metric System (Reply #70)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:27 PM

74. In a political contest

your opponent is, in a manner of speaking, your enemy. What about that notion is Wow worthy?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #22)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:15 PM

58. Projection

 

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #58)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:43 PM

61. Projection? Okay ... Right! ...

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #61)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:51 PM

63. Indeed

 

Projection. We see ever evolving versions of it from Hillary supporters.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #63)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:10 PM

67. I am NOT a HRC supporter ...

 

and you saying so, repeatedly, after being corrected, repeatedly, is offensive and asinine ... or asinine and offensive.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #67)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:01 PM

88. And the sky isn't blue

 

...when it's raining.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #88)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:15 PM

90. Oh how special of you ...

 

you know me better than I know me.

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:01 AM

25. With all respect to DanTex...

I'm pretty sure he IS NOT the democratic establishment...

What a post.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #25)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:47 AM

38. Who Knows Any More Whether Any DU Screen Name Is A Legitimate Person - To Many Infiltrators

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #38)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:50 AM

40. *Too

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #40)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:52 AM

41. *Too

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:55 AM

24. that seems to be one of the narratives on the rotation

It's the on currently playing anyway.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #24)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:09 AM

27. You can't have it both ways ...

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #27)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:23 AM

33. Yes we know

Bernie supporters were mean to Jane Goodall back in July.
What's next in the rotation?

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #33)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:39 AM

36. Perhaps, the DU:Bernie response ...

 

"Don't pay attention to Bernie supporters. We are not the candidate" except when making fun at your expense is, in fact, attacking the candidate.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #36)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:57 AM

53. did you actually read Jane's FB page?

 

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #53)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:35 PM

59. Yes. n/t

 

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:51 AM

21. LOL

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:08 PM

65. So what you are saying is that it IS appropriate to link Sanders supporters actions to him?

Oh this is great, because all I've heard up to this point is that supporters =/= candidate.
Glad to know that was all BS thought. I'll have to remember.

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Response to kjones (Reply #65)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 04:02 PM

95. Never Made Such A Statenent

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:55 AM

23. I guess it's enthusiasm envy. nt

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:37 AM

34. This has nothing to do with Bernie...

 

Just some of his more "statistics challenged" supporters here at DU.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #34)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:49 AM

39. Sounds Like A Blatant Insult Of DUers

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #39)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:00 AM

43. That's a big chip on your shoulder....

 

If you're bad at statistics and think this applies to you, then I'd say that you need to understand statistics better, rather than feeling insulted.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #43)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:51 AM

51. I'm Not The One That Made The Insult - Hence No Chips On These Shoulders

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #34)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:03 AM

46. My son is fantastic at statistics.

Took AP Stats last semester and passed the AP exam to opt out of it in college.

He has a government class this semester, so he's been challenged to look at these things.

He can see the growth in Sanders' support in the state polls and extrapolate the trajectories in the national polls. What he sees is Sanders' support continuing to grow as his message gets out.

Ironically, in his school, everyone either supports Trump or Sanders. These kids can't vote, yet (he's a junior), but they have to be getting their preferences from something: family, friends and/or social media.

Telling Sanders supporters we're "statistically challenged" is nothing more than another meme meant to counteract Clinton's drop in the polls.

She's dropping. He's rising. And you don't need to be a statistician to see that.

What we don't know is what will happen when he gets more national exposure after the first debate. For all the news shows he's done in the past couple of months, the fact is that many people don't pay attention to all that until the fall. We're just about there and we're nearing the first debate.

After that, you'll get better data.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #46)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:53 AM

52. ^^^ This ^^^

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #46)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:58 PM

96. "She's dropping. He's rising. And you don't need to be a statistician to see that"

 

nt

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:45 AM

44. Haha

When it's Hillary it's just a little humor. When its Bernie, its bashing.

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 06:47 AM

2. LOL....

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:18 AM

3. At least his numbers are going up.

Some candidates seem to suffer from more exposure. Not Bernie. He's got the groundswell to make it happen.

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:22 AM

4. Pretty good!

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:24 AM

5. Care to say anything in praise of your own preferred candidate?

 

Or are we to vote for her because of a mockery?

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:37 AM

8. I will. She is going to be an awesome president.

Smart, intelligent, capable, experienced, compassionate.

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Response to Laser102 (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:38 AM

10. Like Mr. Sanders? Smart, intelligent, capable, experienced, compassionate?

 

What does she have that Sanders hasn't?

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:41 AM

11. Allegiance to corporate task masters.

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:42 AM

13. I know ...

a ton of political baggage

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:49 AM

18. This went so well...

I appreciate your attempt to be positive it just doesn't work.

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:50 AM

19. Ovaries? ...

 

Oh yeah ... and overwhelming majorities among African-Americans, Women, Hispanics, and Democrats, (and when I last checked, among those earning less than $50,000/yr), i.e., the Democratic base.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:27 AM

98. You said the 'O' word. Plus the Other People. Now you did it... n/t

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:02 AM

26. Both have a lot of positive qualities. And they agree on most issues.

The main difference is that Hillary can win the GE, and Bernie can't.

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:56 PM

57. all of that plus

he is soo beautiful?

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Response to Laser102 (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:13 AM

30. Sorry, Elizabeth Warren isn't running. n/t

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:21 AM

31. +100

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:29 AM

6. LOL ...

 

Real exchange:
"Well ... {ETA:The Trend Analysis says Bernie will overtake Hillary in ...}"

"What trend analysis?"

{Posts a series of data points showing increasing numbers}

"That's not trend analysis ... plotting two (or several) data points and drawing a straight line isn't trend analysis."

"Yes it is."

"Okay ... Pick up Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Crickets


The level of numeric illiteracy is impressive on DU.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:37 AM

9. To be fair the trend is positive for Sanders...

Especially in NH and IA.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:42 AM

14. Yes. That is true ...

 

but that trend is not to/cannot be projected on that straight line into the future to result in reaching a particular point at any time in the future.

(I will add that part of the exchange to the original post ... I got lazy and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet.)

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:43 AM

15. But first... Coffee.

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:31 AM

7. you're mean. n/t

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:10 AM

28. What is this... the 1950's?

If this was posted by a republican man, the most vocal feminists on this board would be all over your ass. Rightly so.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #28)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:41 AM

37. Hillary and her supporters get a pass, for obvious reasons.

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:12 AM

29. DU rec...



Sid

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:38 AM

35. My hope is you awaken from the mommy fog

 

When you do, the country will be better for it. It's time to grow up as a species.

"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known." 1 Corinthians 13

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:56 AM

42. That is very funny

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 10:52 AM

45. Don't knock extrapolating.

If the primary is extended through 2018, Hillary could lose as many as four or five states.

Lines Segments Don't Lie!

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:19 PM

55. I look forward to seeing you support your candidate someday, DanTex

 

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:35 PM

56. K&R!!

 

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:43 PM

84. As long as the empirical data continues, extrapolation is unnecessary

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=566294

Two Iowa polls today, Hillary ahead about 2 to 1.

Actually, this post by DanTex is funny, but closer to the truth than most would admit. If you take the "emotions" and cheering out of it.

This ones for you, DanTex. Enjoy!!

http://www.jstor.org/stable/1164602?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

One of my favorite articles on sampling!!

Eelworms, Bullet Holes, and Geraldine Ferraro: Some Problems with Statistical Adjustment and Some Solutions
Howard Wainer
Journal of Educational Statistics
Vol. 14, No. 2 (Summer, 1989), pp. 121-140

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:21 AM

97. 48 husbands? The matriarchy is back! But we will be kindly feminine overlords.



We won't make you wear a dress, either.

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Response to DanTex (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:54 AM

99. I agree with the title

 

The picture, not so much. There is a larger dataset than two points. We'll revisit this thread after HRC drops from the race.

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