2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"If Hillary Clinton were a stock I would be buying because she is undervalued."
-David Axelrord
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Over valued
randys1
(16,286 posts)the average voter out there who has no clue about issues.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Not a good strategy for getting your issues out there. If she doesn't start aggressive campaigning soon, this email thing will suck every bit of air out of the room and overshadow everything she does from here on out.
She is being painted into a corner by a lot of different forces. She needs to punch her way out of it, and I believe she is capable of doing that, but it isn't going to happen with her current 'Sleepwalk To Victory!' strategy.
The DNC attempt to rig the primary by stifling debate harms Hillary the most in the long run. Less debates = less message. Less message = more email 'scandal' for the media to obsess over.
randys1
(16,286 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)huh?
I think you clicked on the wrong post or something.
randys1
(16,286 posts)She will have to find a way to become sympathetic to the stupid voter.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Cuz white men?
You have a nice day.
randys1
(16,286 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)IMHO she should be around 1/8 which would be the odds I would set for a Golden State Warriors-Philadelphia Seventy Sixers regular season game.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)But the odds makers are looking at the money for or against the candidate. right now it's 4:1 odds which is a bargain, if you think she's actually 8:1.
You should see the numbers on the Republican side. Arbustito (little bush -AKA Jeb!!!!!) is ahead of Trump according to the odds makers.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)To win $1,000.00 I would have to wager $4,000.00.
The Jebster and the Bush are 3-1 and 4-1 respectively...I don't know I feel about that...I would take the field against either one but you can't wager on the field.
I did make some money on intrade in 08 in the CA primary.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)To win $1,000.00 I would have to wager $4,000.00. Yes.
That's because the odds are in her favor 4:1.
If she was a long shot - 1:4, then an bet of $1000 would win you $4000.
By your estimate of 8:1 odds in favor, you would need to wager $8000 to win $1000. So it's a bargain if you only need to risk $4000 instead of $8000 to win $1000.
Hope that helps.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)The boxer in my avatar was a a 7-1 dog when he beat Sonny Liston and a 3-1 dog when he beat George Foreman.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Good one!
BooScout
(10,406 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)So I guess she is a stock. But beware of a bear market.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)BUST !
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)His opinion carries more weight than random internet posters.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Why no one else can see the WH is out to do this is beyond me.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I'm all ears...
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Who recently practically gave Biden his blessing to make a run at President?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)The WH did release info against HC. Biden is being prepped to run. Do you think Joe Biden would not need the green light from President Obama to make a run? If HC is supposed to be the best and strongest candidate against republicans in 2016 why would you allow serious competition to be introduced in the form of a Biden bid?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Oh, the Benghazi Committee (R) discovered she used a private e-mail address and server:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html?_r=0
ericson00
(2,707 posts)lolll
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)And the only way to do it is to con others into believing the bullshit.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Once she is out of politics her favorability rating will go back up. So if that were a stock it would be a good buy right now. By this time next year it will be higher, and much higher still a couple years from now.
It will eventually get back up near that 70% number. It may not have bottomed out in the short term, so you might not want to buy right now. Even so, it would be a stock worth watching.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I cant compete with the likes of the private pri$on industry. Im penny ante.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Yes, that is the correct term.
Updated yesterday, the trend continues.
Vinca
(50,303 posts)She seemed to be overcoming it until the 5th amendment stuff started. That's GOP gold.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)My uncle B bought $10,000 worth of Pan-Am stock because it was undervalued.
Lesson learned: Most of the time "undervalued stocks" are actually correctly valued.
Lesson learned: I won't be asking David Axelrod for his opinion on my investment portfolio.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Lesson learned: Most of the time "undervalued stocks" are actually correctly valued.
Lesson learned: I won't be asking David Axelrod for his opinion on my investment portfolio
Currently, Floyd Mayweather is a 100-1 favorite over Andre Berto in their fight next Saturday in Las Vegas! That means I would have to lay one hundred dollars on Floyd to win one dollar should he win the fight. I wouldn't ask your uncle or David Axelrod if that was a prudent wager but I might ask Jim Lampley. The inference is there for any logical person to make.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Minimum Vegas line bet is $1000 so it's not $100 to win $1, it's $1000 to win $10. It's a highly safe bet but it's not worthwhile...the reward doesn't outpace the risk; there being of-course an infinitesimally-small risk that Berto puts an utterly-brutal mauling on Mayweather. The amount of money you'd have to wager to get the winnings up to a decent prize represents an utterly-devastating loss in the case that risk hits.
But...that's entirely the point, the book doesn't want to even take that bet at this point because it's all but a sure money loser for them so they pushed the line to be so prohibitive as to throttle the wagers down to virtually non-existent in that direction...now if you're looking to drop $1,000 on the remote chance Berto annihilates Mayweather to take home $100,000 they're thrilled to have your business.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)http://www.5dimes.eu/helpcenter.html
The minimum wager is fifty cents online and fifty dollars over the phone. You can call the 800 number for verification. I did.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Like I said, no legit regulated Vegas book is going to talk to you for wager that small.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)eom
Jo Neez
(13 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Stocks ARE for sale to the highest bidder.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)The largest shareholders are those that have invested the most money
That's what a stock is
now lets look at her corporate donations again.......
In May, the New York Times published Clintons 2015 financial disclosure form. Covering a period from January 2014 to March 2015, Clinton lists a total of 51 speech fees that have been added to her personal account from a variety of companies. Not including her husbands fees which also appear on the same disclosure, Clintons speech fees end up totaling more than $11 million.
Spokesmen for the Clinton Foundation and Clintons presidential campaign declined comment.
Our ruling
Occupy Democrats claimed Clinton "has donated every cent she's ever earned from speaking fees to charity."
Thats a misreading of Clintons comments in 2014, when she said speaking fees at colleges and universities were donated to the Clinton Foundation.
Clintons financial disclosure form includes 51 speeches in which Clinton was compensated directly.
This claim rates False.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/16/occupy-democrats/liberal-group-claims-all-hillary-clintons-speaking/
I don't think he really thought that through when he said it.
but maybe he did and it was said tongue in cheek or maybe he was saying that the system is corrupt without realizing it.