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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:52 AM Sep 2015

Clinton Redux?: REINVENTING Herself Like its 2007

from DailKos....


My take on Clinton's loss to Obama in the 2008 Presidential campaign is that she largely self-destructed by continually re-inventing herself, apparently responding to focus groups and polls. That alone was not fatal, however. What really hurt her was that she advertised the continual re-settings by way of her campaign announcing them. Of course, they didn't say explicitly that that was what they were doing. They just said things like:


"....In extensive interviews by telephone ..., Mrs. Clinton’s strategists acknowledged missteps ... and promised that this fall the public would see the sides of Mrs. Clinton that are often obscured by the noise and distractions of modern campaigning..."

or

"...They want to show her humor. [snip] They want to show her heart ..."


But the above quotes are from today's NYT, not from 8 years ago.

As is this:

"...Previous attempts to introduce Mrs. Clinton’s softer side to voters have backfired amid criticism that the efforts seemed overly poll tested..."


It's no wonder people find her calculating, insincere and untrustworthy. Who's the real Hillary? The poll-tested, focus-group tested person? What's unfortunate for her is she could probably get away with it if her people didn't talk about it. The contrast in the 2008 campaign with Obama's staff was striking: they never talked about their strategy, whereas Clinton's people did what they are doing now all the time. Maybe this time she'll learn to at least shut them up or maybe she'll show us the authentic version for a refreshing change.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/09/1419622/-Clinton-Redux-Reinventing-Herself-Like-its-2007

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Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
2. Some will claim people are just out to get her.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:59 AM
Sep 2015

The rest of us see the same flame-out as last time.

I am sorry Hillary, if Sanders and O'Malley weren't running you'd be my first pick, sadly you are my third or fourth depending.




Buns_of_Fire

(19,221 posts)
4. Sometimes it looks like her own campaign staff is out to get her.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:45 AM
Sep 2015

I know it's not feasible, but I wonder if she wouldn't be better served without her army of Big Brains who can't seem to keep their damned big mouths shut and let the candidate speak for herself. But then, it's not Podesta or Mook popping up in the news -- it's usually a "campaign spokesman" (always a different one, it seems).

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
8. The flame-out shouldn't come as a surprise. Hillary is still Hillary, whoever that is...she doesn't even know without taking a poll.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:48 AM
Sep 2015
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
3. David Axelrod: Hillary Clinton Has A Problem With "Spontaneity" & "Authenticity"....
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:03 AM
Sep 2015

NO!!!,.....Its NOT The Onion!

David gives an upper cut to her advisors.



InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
9. This is another clear sign that Obama no longer has any use for the Clintons. It's his party to control now.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:51 AM
Sep 2015

Ino

(3,366 posts)
5. I don't think she could get away with it...
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:47 AM
Sep 2015

even if the ploy wasn't advertised. People know when someone is being genuine... that's one thing that's so appealing about Sanders.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
10. Bernie is the real deal, which is why he's going to win this thing...though I expect Biden to make it a close race.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:02 AM
Sep 2015

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