Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:10 PM Sep 2015

Sanders’s Screwy Mideast Strategy

A problem with Sanders’s limited articulation of a foreign policy is that his most passionately stated position is extremely regressive and incredibly dangerous. Sanders has actually pushed for the repressive Saudi Arabian regime to engage in more intervention in the Mideast.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/08/26/sanderss-screwy-mideast-strategy/

14 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
 

rainbow fish

(42 posts)
1. Considering the House of Saud has the fourth LARGEST military forces in the world
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:13 PM
Sep 2015

Bernie is right, as usual. Saudi Arabia needs to get off their fat, lazy and overentitled ass off and help Middle East.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
2. Right. Bernie is a Jewish pro-Saudi imperialist who wants LM to make money.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:15 PM
Sep 2015

This hit piece was already posted back in August so I'm just going to repost my response to the bullshit:


Husseini said:

But if your point is to build up the next stage of the U.S. government’s horrific role in the Mideast, it kind of makes sense. The U.S. government helped ensure the Saudis would dominate the Arabian Peninsula from the formation of the nation state of Saudi Arabia — a nation named after a family. In return, the Saudis had the U.S. take the lead in extracting oil there and favored investing funds from their oil wealth largely in the West over building up the region, what the activist scholar Eqbal Ahmed called separating the material wealth of the Mideast from the mass of the people of the region. Saudi Arabia buys U.S. weapons to further solidify the “relationship” and to ensure its military dominance.

...

Why is Sanders doing this? Is there a domestic constituency called “Americans for Saudi Domination of the Arab World”? Well, yes and no. It would obviously play well in the general public to say: “We’ve got to stop backing dictatorships like the Saudis. They behead people, they are tyrannical. They have a system of male guardianship. Why the hell are they an ally?”

But Sanders is unwilling to break with the U.S.-Saudi alliance that has done such damage to both the Arab people and the American people. Now, we have a full-fledged Israeli-Saudi alliance and it must be music to the ears of pro-Israeli journalists like Wolf Blitzer for Sanders to be calling for U.S. backing of further Saudi domination.

...

So Sanders and Saudi planners seem to be working toward the same ends, as though war by an autocratic state in a critical region can be expected to breed good outcomes. Sanders doesn’t seem to take money from Lockheed Martin — though he’s backed their F-35, slated to be based in Vermont — but his stance on Saudi Arabia must bring a smile to the faces of bigwigs there.




What a crock.

Bernie is not pro-Saudi, he has criticized them in the past and will continue to do so.

His comments are being taken out of context by the author, he was angry that they want the US to send troops to defeat ISIS:


Sanders blasts Saudi Arabia for suggesting US troops against ISIS

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ripped Saudi Arabia Friday after the nation’s top diplomat suggested the U.S. would have to deploy ground troops to ultimately defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

“I find it remarkable that Saudi Arabia, which borders Iraq and is controlled by a multi-billion dollar family, is demanding that U.S. combat troops have ‘boots on the ground’ against ISIS. Where are the Saudi troops?” Sanders, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, said in a statement.

“With the third largest military budget in the world and an army far larger than ISIS, the Saudi government must accept its full responsibility for stability in their own region of the world,” he added.


The sharp words come the day after Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi foreign minister, expressed concern that Iran’s military is increasing its support to Baghdad’s forces in the fight against the terror group, especially around the city of Tikrit.

...

Sanders flatly rejected the notion that America must lead the vanguard against ISIS.

“Ultimately, this is a profound struggle for the soul of Islam, and the anti-ISIS Muslim nations must lead that fight. While the United States and other western nations should be supportive, the Muslim nations must lead,” he said.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/234907-sanders-blast-saudi-arabia-for-suggesting-us-troops-against-isis



Get some new material.
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
3. That's insane!
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:16 PM
Sep 2015

Everybody knows intervention is exclusively the responsibility of the United States. Who is this "Sanders" guy, anyway? Does he have so little respect for cold war, interventionist foreign policy that he would hesitate to spend American lives and American dollars to remove weapons of mass destruction from the Next Hitler? What a wimp!

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
9. Are you serious?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:27 PM
Sep 2015

Or is that sarcasm?

Just like the weapons of mass destruction Saddam had? Oh wait never mind....

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. Last time they posted this it was from informationclearinghouse.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:21 PM
Sep 2015

And the anti-Semitic comments were vile.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
5. Better then the Clinton saber rattling.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:20 PM
Sep 2015

Disengaging in the middle east is the best option for the US. The countries of the region and the people of the region need to figure out their own problems. The US should not be the world police or the world military.

Because of US interference in the region matters continue to get worse. We must stop interfering in all foreign governments and give the will of the people in all countries the chance to work for their own interest.

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
7. Saudi Arabia should intervene in Mideast problems. They have a big fucking military
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:22 PM
Sep 2015

and a shitload of money, they can fight their own damn wars instead of sitting in their tents being pampered while America does their dirty work. They can live or die by their own fucking sword.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
11. I agree with Bernie
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:34 PM
Sep 2015

Let them clean up their own backyard.
Are you suggesting we spend more money and risk more American lives?

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
12. These hit pieces just get more and more pathetic.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:40 PM
Sep 2015

No one in their right mind would suggest that we engage in more fucking war in the Middle East. The hawks in this party make me fucking sick.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
14. Bernie wants the United States Military to intervene less frequently in the Middle East.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:42 PM
Sep 2015

Most liberals would agree that is a good idea. You, however, seem to disagree.

Curious.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Sanders’s Screwy Mideast ...