2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders’s Screwy Mideast Strategy
A problem with Sanderss limited articulation of a foreign policy is that his most passionately stated position is extremely regressive and incredibly dangerous. Sanders has actually pushed for the repressive Saudi Arabian regime to engage in more intervention in the Mideast.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/08/26/sanderss-screwy-mideast-strategy/
rainbow fish
(42 posts)Bernie is right, as usual. Saudi Arabia needs to get off their fat, lazy and overentitled ass off and help Middle East.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)This hit piece was already posted back in August so I'm just going to repost my response to the bullshit:
Husseini said:
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Why is Sanders doing this? Is there a domestic constituency called Americans for Saudi Domination of the Arab World? Well, yes and no. It would obviously play well in the general public to say: Weve got to stop backing dictatorships like the Saudis. They behead people, they are tyrannical. They have a system of male guardianship. Why the hell are they an ally?
But Sanders is unwilling to break with the U.S.-Saudi alliance that has done such damage to both the Arab people and the American people. Now, we have a full-fledged Israeli-Saudi alliance and it must be music to the ears of pro-Israeli journalists like Wolf Blitzer for Sanders to be calling for U.S. backing of further Saudi domination.
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So Sanders and Saudi planners seem to be working toward the same ends, as though war by an autocratic state in a critical region can be expected to breed good outcomes. Sanders doesnt seem to take money from Lockheed Martin though hes backed their F-35, slated to be based in Vermont but his stance on Saudi Arabia must bring a smile to the faces of bigwigs there.
What a crock.
Bernie is not pro-Saudi, he has criticized them in the past and will continue to do so.
His comments are being taken out of context by the author, he was angry that they want the US to send troops to defeat ISIS:
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ripped Saudi Arabia Friday after the nations top diplomat suggested the U.S. would have to deploy ground troops to ultimately defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).
I find it remarkable that Saudi Arabia, which borders Iraq and is controlled by a multi-billion dollar family, is demanding that U.S. combat troops have boots on the ground against ISIS. Where are the Saudi troops? Sanders, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, said in a statement.
With the third largest military budget in the world and an army far larger than ISIS, the Saudi government must accept its full responsibility for stability in their own region of the world, he added.
The sharp words come the day after Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi foreign minister, expressed concern that Irans military is increasing its support to Baghdads forces in the fight against the terror group, especially around the city of Tikrit.
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Sanders flatly rejected the notion that America must lead the vanguard against ISIS.
Ultimately, this is a profound struggle for the soul of Islam, and the anti-ISIS Muslim nations must lead that fight. While the United States and other western nations should be supportive, the Muslim nations must lead, he said.
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/234907-sanders-blast-saudi-arabia-for-suggesting-us-troops-against-isis
Get some new material.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)so not gonna try
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Everybody knows intervention is exclusively the responsibility of the United States. Who is this "Sanders" guy, anyway? Does he have so little respect for cold war, interventionist foreign policy that he would hesitate to spend American lives and American dollars to remove weapons of mass destruction from the Next Hitler? What a wimp!
WDIM
(1,662 posts)Or is that sarcasm?
Just like the weapons of mass destruction Saddam had? Oh wait never mind....
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Wait....what?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And the anti-Semitic comments were vile.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)WDIM
(1,662 posts)Disengaging in the middle east is the best option for the US. The countries of the region and the people of the region need to figure out their own problems. The US should not be the world police or the world military.
Because of US interference in the region matters continue to get worse. We must stop interfering in all foreign governments and give the will of the people in all countries the chance to work for their own interest.
Autumn
(44,984 posts)and a shitload of money, they can fight their own damn wars instead of sitting in their tents being pampered while America does their dirty work. They can live or die by their own fucking sword.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Let them clean up their own backyard.
Are you suggesting we spend more money and risk more American lives?
bunnies
(15,859 posts)No one in their right mind would suggest that we engage in more fucking war in the Middle East. The hawks in this party make me fucking sick.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Most liberals would agree that is a good idea. You, however, seem to disagree.
Curious.