Separation of Church and State is for peasants.

[Old Union Guy]

Hillary Clinton showed up for church today. Will faith help or hurt her on the campaign?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/09/13/hillary-clinton-showed-up-for-church-today-will-faith-help-or-hurt-her-on-the-campaign/

Note: She didn't just show up, she preached the sermon.

[Warren DeMontague]

1. Nothing screams "authenticity" like extremely public declarations of religious faith!

[oasis]

2. Anyone who would NOT vote for Hill for being a person of faith,

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the Democratic Party can do without.

[haikugal]

3. Really? Amazing.....

[beam me up scottie]

5. Hey you...

I left a little something to cheer you up back at the evil atheist lair.

[haikugal]

10. Thanks BMUS....I'm ready for a chuckle!

[LWolf]

4. I think one of the points

is that her faith seems propelled by her campaign, rather than authenticity...like so much of what she says and does.

Who knows if she is "a person of faith?" I don't, one way or the other.

Anyway, being a "person of faith" does not lose my vote. Positions on issues earn, or lose, my vote.

[oasis]

6. We all know a politician doesn't have to be a Rick Santorum or

Sam Brownback to demonstrate true faith. Putting Hillary under the microscope to measure her level of faith is beyond ridiculous.

[LWolf]

8. ???

I'm not putting HRC under a microscope.

It's her own words and actions over decades that lead me, and perhaps some others, to doubt the authenticity of anything she says.

I really don't give a shit, one way or the other, whether any POTUS is "a person of faith," as long as that faith doesn't lead to a connection of church and state while in office, or to discrimination of any sort.

Her "level of faith" was not my point at all.

[oasis]

11. I was not directly referring to you. The OP seemed to

question Hillary's motives for attending church.

[LWolf]

23. okay nt

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Shes not going under the microscope. She's putting it up on a billboard.

probably because her poll testing told her she needs to be "more authentic"- and instead of displaying actual authenticity- by like, say, coming out with a slate of actual policy and issue proposals- she's decided that nothing says authenticity like a public declaration of religious faith.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. Dont you wag your finger at me. Plenty of people say they wouldnt vote for an atheist.

The ridiculous over-Jesusification of politics is a well-established problem in this country.

No one says candidates cant be religious (although they should be able to NOT be religious, as well) but a healthy recognition of the principle of church state separation is a fundamental Democratic Party, AND American, value.

[beam me up scottie]

12. What he said!

[mak3cats]

15. Agree completely!! (eom)

[oasis]

16. Hello,my Post #1, was not intended to pick on anyone in particular.

Btw, Hillary and I believe the separation of church and state is a good thing and should be preserved under our constitution.

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Is that Hillary the 2016 version, or the 2005 Hillary whose understanding of the 1st Amendment

Still included outlawing flag burning?

I'm glad to hear you are committed to the principle but unless you are Hillary or officially qualified to speak for her campaign (if you are, please PM me- you guys are doing a crap job right now, but I can help, and I work cheap) i will wait to hear her positions directly from the source.

[Ron Green]

7. I don't think a tolerant and socially-active religious component in the public sphere

is a bad thing. Rather than a candidate's cynical church-going I would rather see, for example, support for the sweeping social, environmental and economic dicta in Laudate Si of Pope Francis.

Bernie Sanders has voiced such support. I don't know about Ms. Clinton.

[Old Union Guy]

21. She made a campaign speech at a church as pat of the services.

Separation doesn't mean establishment of for *good* religion.

[Ron Green]

22. Are you replying to me?

"Cynical church-going" is not what I'm including as a desirable part of public discourse. I agree that her pulpit speech is not what we need.

[HereSince1628]

14. It also says "I'm Christian, that socialist is...well, you know..."

This still seems too close to the meme that the US won't elect an old socialist Jew.

[oasis]

18. The reason Hillary's been attending church all these years

is for a "gotcha" photo op against Bernie? I seeeeeeeee.

[HereSince1628]

19. It maybe the reason they've arranged a story on her giving a sermon

How many sermons and sunday scholl classes has she given in the past year?

[oasis]

20. Don't know. It's not uncommon for a congregation to ask

an honored guest or member to do that.

If your really interested in finding out, check with Hillary's campaign.