Can we stop the Biden-Warren nonsense and focus on our great REAL candidates? Warren said she isn't

[Attorney in Texas]

running. Biden said he and his family may not have the emotional strength to run.

Leaving aside the scenario-crushing fact that neither candidate is running, Warren is not a fan of Biden:

“The group that will be most affected by the changes in the bankruptcy legislation Senator Biden so forcefully supports will be women, particularly women heads of household who are supporting children,” Warren wrote in the Harvard Women’s Law Journal.

“Not a single women’s group that has spoken publicly about the bankruptcy bill agrees with him, but his public position as a champion of women seems untarnished,” Warren added, according to the International Business Times.
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Portraying Biden as a "zealous advocate on behalf of one of his biggest contributors," Warren in the 2002 article noted the connection between the credit card industry and Biden's home state of Delaware.

Responding to the renewed attention the article was receiving, a Biden aide told the IBT that “the vice president has been a champion for middle-class families and has fought against powerful interests.”... A year later, in 2003, Warren wrote in her book The Cement Life Raft that “[s]enators like Joe Biden should not be allowed to sell out women in the morning and be heralded as their friend in the evening.”

In 2005, Warren testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee and faced down a contentious line of questioning by Biden, who portrayed Warren's portrayal of the bankruptcy legislation as "mildly demagogic."

I'm a huge Warren supporter, and she has far too much integrity to join a Biden campaign (which would crush the campaign of Sanders who is much ideologically closer to Warren and damage Clinton's campaign, who is also closer to Warren than Warren is to Biden). Biden has a great personal story and he has been a good and loyal VP, but he holds no appeal ideologically to the progressive wing of the party, and he is too late to the game to take the centrist/establishment support that Clinton has already locked up.

So, this is not going to happen.

Yet even if a Biden-Warren ticket did happen, it would fizzle.

In order to have any remote chance of capturing Sanders support, the ticket would have to be Warren-Biden, not Biden-Warren. Everyone likes Biden personally; it's his career-long centrist, pro-bankster, pro-predatory-credit-cartel, hawkish, pro-harsh-penalties-for-drug-possession policies that progressives do not like.

Either Biden would have to change from a caterpillar to butterfly overnight, or Warren would have to sell out. SPOILER ALERT: neither of those two things is going to happen.

If anyone thinks that Clinton is being harshly attacked for a lack of authenticity, these attacks would pale in comparison to the charges of flip-floppery and opportunism if either Biden or Warren betrayed their entire careers to sign onto the same platform because Biden has historically opposed the best of what Warren represents and Warren stands opposed to much of the career's work from the "Senator from MBNA."

I'm a fan of Biden as a person, but he's to the right of Clinton, and Clinton is already too much of a centrist for my taste.

If I were picking a candidate based on who would be best to grab a beer with, Biden would make the short list, but I pick candidates based on their ideology, and a history of progressive advocacy, and their platform, and Biden does not make the short list (or even the medium length list) by this criteria. I suspect that Warren feels the same way.

[99Forever]

1. Yep. It reeks of Oligarchy desperation.

The train wreck proceeds.

[Attorney in Texas]

5. I can't stand the implicit assumption that we need a centrist ready in case the centrist already in

the race fails to meet the establishment's expectations.

We have a nice broad ideological spectrum of candidates running.

We don't really need Clinton 2.0 (now equipped with superwhite teeth, hair plugs, and testicles!).

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. Boom goes the dynamite.

Exactly.

[djean111]

3. Perfectly stated.

I thought this trial balloon had been punctured a while back. Either someone has a memory problem or they assume the rest of us do.

[restorefreedom]

6. thank you!

this is just speculative bullshit by tbtb and keep The idea afloat that Bernie can't win because another establishment candidate might jump into the race. It reeks of desperation and it will fail.

[Attorney in Texas]

7. I wish more Sanders supporters understood that the Biden nonsense is an attack on Sanders' campaign

[restorefreedom]

8. i think most understand

that tbtb will be aligned against bernie. but it is hard to think of joe being a willing participant. i actually don't think he is. I think he's very torn about the idea of running and probably would rather not, but he feels a tremendous amount of pressure from establishment types for begging him to get in after Hillary tanks and "save us" from Bernie. But I don't think he's colluding with them I think he's genuinely struggling about his decision. But you're right it's just another way to discredit Bernie take attention away from him and try to convince people he can't possibly win the nomination.