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Related: About this forumTalkingpointsmemo: Watch Live Senate Debate Middle Class Cuts
Dueling votes on the Democratic and Republican Tax Cut Plans begin about 4PM.
3:46 PM EDT, WEDNESDAY JULY 25, 2012
Watch Live: Senate Debates Middle-Class Tax Cuts
Watch the Senates debate over whether all or only some of the Bush tax cuts should be extended:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbcnews.com/48324093#48324093
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/watch-live-senate-debate-middle-class-tax-cuts
Watch Live: Senate Debates Middle-Class Tax Cuts
Watch the Senates debate over whether all or only some of the Bush tax cuts should be extended:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbcnews.com/48324093#48324093
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/watch-live-senate-debate-middle-class-tax-cuts
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flpoljunkie
Jul 2012
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Vice President Joe Biden is now presiding. Republican bill defeated. Vote was 45-54.
flpoljunkie
Jul 2012
#1
McConnell keeps extending the debate insisting this vote is all about the campaign
flpoljunkie
Jul 2012
#5
Susan Collins, Scott Brown voted against R's bill; Joe Lieberman, Jim Webb voted against D's bill.
flpoljunkie
Jul 2012
#11
Arkansas Democrat Mark Pryor voted for both the Republican and Democratic bills.
flpoljunkie
Jul 2012
#12
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)1. Vice President Joe Biden is now presiding. Republican bill defeated. Vote was 45-54.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)3. Will the vote on the Dems tax cut bill be that close?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)2. Direct link to C-Span coverage...
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)4. Thanks. Majority Leader Reid just finished speaking.
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is now speaking.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)7. Nice to know John Boehner is Harry's "good friend that I care about". n/t
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)5. McConnell keeps extending the debate insisting this vote is all about the campaign
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)6. VP Biden: 'The clerk will now call the role.'
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)8. Joe Lieberman votes with the R's against the Democrats' tax cut bill.
No surprise there.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)9. The bill passed. n/t
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)10. 51-48.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)11. Susan Collins, Scott Brown voted against R's bill; Joe Lieberman, Jim Webb voted against D's bill.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)12. Arkansas Democrat Mark Pryor voted for both the Republican and Democratic bills.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)13. Talkingpointsmemo's Brian Beutler on where the bill goes from here...
Wednesdays development places the onus of avoiding the full expiration of the Bush tax cuts on House Republicans. They are expected to pass legislation next week to extend all of the Bush tax cuts but the Senate has already rejected that proposition. That leaves the Senate Democrats bill as the only viable vehicle for preventing everyones taxes from increasing next year.
Republicans will object to House adoption of the Senate bill on technical grounds. It faces whats known as a blue-slip problem, because the Constitution requires revenue-raising measures to originate in the House of Representatives. But the blue-slip problem is only an obstacle if House Republicans insist on making it one and Democrats are confident voters will be receptive to the argument that the GOP is standing in the way of middle-income tax cuts until wealthy Americans get a tax cut too.
To that end, the White House announced President Obamas strong support for the Senate bill. All sides agree on the need to extend the tax cuts for the middle class, reads a statement of administration policy. [T]his legislation reflects that consensus, and should not be held hostage while debating the merits of another tax cut for the wealthy.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/senate-dems-jam-house-republicans-pass-bush-tax-cut-extension-for-middle-class.php?ref=fpa
Republicans will object to House adoption of the Senate bill on technical grounds. It faces whats known as a blue-slip problem, because the Constitution requires revenue-raising measures to originate in the House of Representatives. But the blue-slip problem is only an obstacle if House Republicans insist on making it one and Democrats are confident voters will be receptive to the argument that the GOP is standing in the way of middle-income tax cuts until wealthy Americans get a tax cut too.
To that end, the White House announced President Obamas strong support for the Senate bill. All sides agree on the need to extend the tax cuts for the middle class, reads a statement of administration policy. [T]his legislation reflects that consensus, and should not be held hostage while debating the merits of another tax cut for the wealthy.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/senate-dems-jam-house-republicans-pass-bush-tax-cut-extension-for-middle-class.php?ref=fpa