so we have a racist piece of shit being posted because she calls Bernie a racist

[cali]

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Froma Harrup, who insinuates, that among other things, Bernie moved to Vermont because he's a racist, wrote some deeply ugly racist shit about Obama in service to Hillary. Now this disgusting shill is writing that Bernie is a racist in service to Hillary. And she's being quoted and supported here at du.

<snip>

Obama’s appeal comes not from the things he says, but from who is saying them. He scores as an exotic who talks of barbershops and church socials in the flat tones you’d expect from any son of the prairie.

Had Bayh been half-Kenyan and raised in Hawaii by white grandparents from Kansas, he too would have become a political star, at least for the month of December. But he is a conventional white man. When Bayh speaks in the quiet Midwestern way, he gets tarred as lackluster.

<snip>
The senator dislikes the “either-or” type of debate and warns against “false choices.” He’s not too left, not too right. Sort of black, and sort of white.

Obama is humble in all the right places. Before a thousand swooning fans in New Hampshire, he says, Evita-like: “This isn’t about me. This is about you.” One gets the impression from his public appearances and book, “The Audacity of Hope,” that he doesn’t even get a haircut without first consulting his wife.

<snip>


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20061226_froma_harrop_obama_scores_as_exotic_who_says_nothing

And there's lots more from Clinton supporter froma harrup

[beam me up scottie]

1. WTF??? I wonder if they'll delete their ops now?

Notice the dog whistle here?:

What Obama really thinks should be done about healthcare and the terrorist threat remains a secret that his book does not unlock. His two years in the Senate certainly haven’t revealed any bold policy ideas.

[cali]

3. I've fucking had it with the hypocrisy.

[beam me up scottie]

5. No shit.

Bernie's supporters aren't the ones posting racist ops, I have plenty of links if anyone wants to debate the point.

[Hortensis]

507. Bernie called me this afternoon. At least I think that's who he said it was.

Whoever it was, he asked me to ask you to PLEASE NOT LINK HIS NAME WITH RACISM. It seems someone's been counting, and you guys go out and get so excited about something that you run back here and discuss it with great passion and length every single time.

I didn't catch how times it had been counted in this thread alone to that point, but the request was clear: PLEASE DON'T LINK BERNIE'S NAME WITH RACISM.

It's really not good for the campaign.

Thank you on behalf of Bernie well-wishers everywhere.

[beam me up scottie]

509. What are you on about?

And who are you again?

I think if Bernie was here he's be disgusted by how he's been treated by so called liberals posting hateful things about him.

According to them he's is a racist, a gun nut, a Republican man with his head between women's legs, who protects the minutemen militia, pedophiles, racist cops, has rape fantasies and thinks that orgasms prevented cancer.


Maybe you should aim your outrage and hyperbole at those folks.

What a weird post.

[Aerows]

512. Good GRIEF

I hadn't seen that before.

Wow.

[beam me up scottie]

517. I decided to combine them for maximum effect.

I got sick of seeing the denial here.

[Brock Kentman]

556. OMG! Thank you - bookmarking for future references...

[marym625]

546. Thank you!

I've seen all of those but put together like that, it's really bad. Damn.

[beam me up scottie]

548. Please feel free to copy or link to it if necessary.

I'm so sick of the claims that no one hates Bernie here.

[marym625]

558. frankly,

I don't care about any of the stupid supporter shit. Facts are facts. Try as they might, they can't change them. Try as they might to pretend Sanders hasn't accomplished anything, facts show how false that is.

It's nice to have proof of the bullshit being put out about Senator Sanders. What's even better are facts that prove the bullshit, the links you posted and more, is just that, bullshit.

When you can't win with truth, attack personally. When you can't support with facts, just twisted facts and make stuff up.

But truth will win out. Principles will win out, like vowing not to take wall street money or endorse super pace,and then sticking to it. Accomplishments will win out, like ensuring millions of uninsured and under insured people receive health care

[sabrina 1]

547. Disgusting and despicable. They are losing badly with these tactics. No wonder he's rising in the

polls.

Ugh! Truly disgusting.

[beam me up scottie]

550. They've been doing this for months. Months.

Since the day he announced.

[sabrina 1]

551. It hasn't helped them much has it? Let them waste all that Corporate Dark Money on stuff NO ONE

decent is interested in. Then USE it to raise money for Bernie! See Brock! That was brilliant, the way people came together and USED that corporate money to help Bernie.

I mean, if they are going spend it, why not put it to some good use, no?

[beam me up scottie]

553. I'm broke but even I chipped in an extra 10 bucks just to say Fuck You Brock!

[sibelian]

635. It's just getting worse and worse for them and they still think it's everyone else's fault.

It's become completely surreal.

[polly7]

711. *********

“Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated.”

― George Bernard Shaw

[cui bono]

790. Ooh!

Might have to put that in my sig.

[polly7]

791. :)

It's a great quote and very true, imho.

[sabrina 1]

620. Despicable garbage. But they can't go after him on the issues, so this is how low they are willing

to go, and they are looking to notorious characters like David Brock to help them. They should have learned from Brock's 'blindness' how disgusted the public is by these vicious attacks on ANYONE. In the end, even Republicans were sick to their stomach by the nastiness and Clinton benefited from that.

Same thing is going to happen with this. Decent people who support Hillary right now will be sickened by these vicious nasty personal attacks. It's happening already actually.

They want to hear about issues.

I hope they keep on doing it frankly. It proves how little they have to offer and we saw how it already benefited Bernie when the sneaky, cowardly Brock decided to bring his garbage from the Right into this Dem primary.

[Roy Rolling]

93. The title of the smear says it all

"Bernie's Problem With Blacks"

The defining of a candidate has begun, and such people like Froma who attempt to wrongly define Bernie are shills. But we should not be so naïve as to think a small minority of desperate Democratic political operatives will not stoop to the same methods of propaganda that have worked splendidly for right-wingers for two decades. Truth is relative for them. It's like calling out some right-wingers for being hypocrites. It is not surprising, or that they are unaware they are hypocrites, they are fully aware they are hypocrites but just don't give a rats ass.

So, when did Froma stop beating her wife? ... if you know what I mean.

[beam me up scottie]

94. And we're expected to denounce every troll who claims to support Bernie?

The hypocrisy is staggering.

[arcane1]

107. Gotta discredit him BEFORE he takes the debate stage.

By Any Means Necessary.

[senz]

175. Precisely.

That campaign, its nominee, and its supporters are nauseating.

[HooptieWagon]

230. Corporatists ARE rightwingers...

...some of them just have a D next to their name.

[sabrina 1]

623. Bernie has no such problem of course. I knew from the start considering where it came from, that it

was a well funded smear tactic and now am more certain than ever. NRN sponsored it, they thought they were brilliant, Bernie handled it magnificently and many AAs were outraged, see all the statement online from people who deeply resented being 'represented' by what was clearly a dirty trick USING them to do so. I love all the statement from AAs I've seen condemning the whole disgusting attempt to prevent them from learning about a candidate that once they did, turned out to be someone they realized, as Lil B said, 'has been fighting for our rights for decades' then switched from Hillary to Bernie.

These nasty dirty tricks just don't work anymore. They are the epitome of what they public has grown sick of.

So let them keep it up and more and more decent people will distance themselves from them and Bernie will and is benefiting from that.

[juajen]

641. Please point me to where this is happening. Perhaps, I'm just missing it somewhere.

[sabrina 1]

669. If you mean where the 'Bernie has an AA problem' is happening, you probably have missed it, it has

failed to get beyond pretty much where the talking point started. The real world is concerned about FACTS and ISSUES, meantime the small minds of the few involved only in creating smear tactics and attempting to spread them around, are still feebly trying to dredge up THAT particular lie but only in their small corners of the internet.

In the meantime the public has stated clearly in over whelming numbers that the issues that concern them include right at the top of the list, 'The corrosive, corrupting effects of money in politics' so the smearmongers, funded by that dirty corporate money, are probably going to end up like David Brock, one of the dirtiest tricksters in recent history who just got his not-so-smart head handed to him as he smear campaign totally backfired and rather than harming Bernie Sanders, was put to good use to raise over one million dollars from people who are thoroughly disgusted by the negative, smears we are subjected to paid for by corporate money, in every election.

[delrem]

727. This OP is monumental!

I'm just reading thru' it again and get here to this subthread and for some reason I wonder about David Brock's hairdo.
Well, I wonder if it's a wig?

I dunno, but I think if something's bare naked we should at least allow it a wig.

[sabrina 1]

748. I didn't recognize him in that hilarious Bloomberg interview where he was stammering and spluttering

trying NOT to answer a few simple questions, such as 'what was the point you were trying to make'. I laughed my head off, as I watched the little weasel try to wiggle out of responding since the ONLY point he had was getting paid to smear a good and decent man whose shoes Brock isn't fit to wipe.

But the hair, yes I don't recall him having hair like that. Maybe he went bald and bought himself a wig. But if you are going to wear a wig, it might be better if it looked like your own hair. HIS looked like Donald Trump's hair. Maybe he bought one of those Trump wigs they made for Halloween.

The thread is epic and we are keeping it going until Cali returns I guess. In honor of that other site where it was admitted that one of them deliberately tried to goad her. Amazing that we now have TWO sites obsessed with bashing this one and its inhabitants.

[delrem]

749. I didn't know what "the cave" was, before. Now I do.

It's pretty damn hilarious.

Y'know, I'm not totally against "deliberately trying to goad" snipes, when well placed in an otherwise somewhat thoughtful discussion where there is at minimum some mutual respect.

I think it was at the time of (haha) the joke hashtag #berniesoblack, coupled with David Brock's obscene online army hammering "Bernie supporters" as being racist, that I lost even that minimum of respect.

[sabrina 1]

752. Yes, that was about as low as someone can go and while it only increased support

for Bernie since most decent people don't operate that way and it disgusts them, it will not be forgotten that once again, the Hillary Campaign tried to play the race card. From the start it was clear where the 'Bernie has a problem with AAs' came from. I believe many people got it right from the begeinning. And when THAT vile hashtag appeared, there really was no doubt.

Bernie never had a problem with AAs so it was obviously an attempted smear campaign which HE put to good use to fix the ONLY problem he ever had with AAs, name recognition.

They have so discredited themselves now that NO ONE will every listen to a word any of them has to say again. I had given some leeway to one or two of them, but never again. People tried to warn me, but I like to give people a chance before totally dismissing them.

[sabrina 1]

624. And it's failing so badly you would think someone would tell them it is only harming Hillary. I see

people all the time saying how 'we don't need this in our politics' and finding themselves shifting away from Hillary because she doesn't condemn it.

Bernie benefits from their extreme nastiness. Overall most people are decent and are turned off by this kind of garbage.

[Aerows]

544. I just had to.

[beam me up scottie]

545. Now you're on the list.

I've been the target of at least two failed alerts since yesterday, let's hope your juries are as fair.

[Aerows]

549. I'm sorry

I just had to go there.

[hifiguy]

580. That was a delicious barb, Aerows.

Spot on.

[Aerows]

639. They always hurt the worst

when they are the truth.

[MoveIt]

637. I had to steal this, but gave you credit :-)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251623308#post72

[Uncle Joe]

2. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, cali.

[Scootaloo]

4. Holy fucking shit.

Obama’s appeal comes not from the things he says, but from who is saying them. He scores as an exotic who talks of barbershops and church socials in the flat tones you’d expect from any son of the prairie.

Had Bayh been half-Kenyan and raised in Hawaii by white grandparents from Kansas, he too would have become a political star, at least for the month of December. But he is a conventional white man. When Bayh speaks in the quiet Midwestern way, he gets tarred as lackluster.

[cali]

7. no kidding. And this and the repeated posting of this racist here to attack sanders

is just the sort of crap I was referring to when I posted my op about the concerted effort to make Bernie look racist. Because that is what it is really about.

[arcane1]

8. "He scores as an exotic" is pretty low. So is this:

"The senator dislikes the “either-or” type of debate and warns against “false choices.” He’s not too left, not too right. Sort of black, and sort of white."

[cali]

13. She's baldly racist, and this fuckwad has the gall to call Sanders.a racist?

Yeah, I've had it.

[Scootaloo]

21. What I can't help but notice...

Is that most of the "criticism" coming at cornel west is of the "Shut up and know your place!" variety. Complaints that he doesn't "show proper respect" and such.

Fromage Hurpderp doesn't seem any different in this.

[Fawke Em]

294. Scoot, if I may call you that, most black people I know LOVE Dr. West.

His arguments with Obama are just "family shit" and they don't care.

And, I live in the South.

[Scootaloo]

305. I've seen mixed reactions and won't presume to know either way

But I do know what I'm seeing, when a bunch of white people smack their lips and talk about how "disrespectful" an outspoken black person is being, and how he "damages his cause" by not being more "polite."

But then - hey. I grew up in the south, myself. I think it really does lend a different set of eyeballs to the situation.

[appalachiablue]

378. A Close Look at columnist FROMA HARROP in an interview with John Oliver on The Daily Show,

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'Civil Disservice' VIDEO. At the time Froma was the one year president of the Civility Project, NCEW, National Conference of Editorial Writers formed to find how to restore civility to America's public discourse.

Froma Harrop with John Oliver



?

'Civil Disservice', John Oliver with Froma Harrop on Civility in Public Discourse, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, 1/12/12.
*VIDEO, http://www.cc.com/video-clips/slfmox/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-civil-disservice

[merrily]

448. Tone deaf, clueless, entitled, double standards.

[sabrina 1]

626. There's something wrong with these people. Maybe that's why they are hired, because no decent

person could possibly by that hypocritical. It just isn't possible.

This is what all that Corporate Money buys.

[BeanMusical]

660. So that's what a member of the KKK looks like without a hood on.

[Kalidurga]

876. I can't believe that happened.

Seriously she had to be in on the joke.

[sabrina 1]

628. As always when someone points a finger at someone else, they are usually projecting. I had not seen

any of her 'work' before, but I sure won't be reading anything she writes from now on. She is is what all that corporate bribe money buys. This is what they use it for.

Disgusting racist garbage.

[arcane1]

6. The Clinton Camp will go as low as necessary.

The unscrupulous usually do.

[hifiguy]

12. The ruthlessness and truthlessness of the Clintons

is well established in the historical record. I wouldn't trust ANY Clinton any farther than I can throw the Sphinx.

I have, somewhat reluctantly, started to use the other N-word (Nixon) when discussing HRH. The similarities - the overweening arrogance, grotesque sense of entitlement, decades-long obsession with the office, willingness to rig the process with money and paid operatives, willingness to say or do absolutely anything to have the office - are now as apparent as a Kodiak bear in a phone booth. Nixon is in many respects the only real parallel to HRH in US politics.

NO ONE who wants the office that badly should EVER be allowed to hold it.

[arcane1]

15. I'm beginning to think you have a very good point there.

"NO ONE who wants the office that badly should EVER be allowed to hold it."

[MissDeeds]

48. Excellent post

The Clinton Machine is just getting started. Unfortunately, it's going to get worse. There is no way they will go down to a second HRC defeat without pulling out all the stops. I hope Bernie is prepared for this and has a plan to deal with their dirty tactics. He's far too ethical to resort to their low brow strategies. Perhaps that's what they're counting on.

[Omaha Steve]

132. The last attack got him over $1.2 million in donations

Stay tuned.

[hifiguy]

137. They're blazing away at both feet with a mini-gun

like Kari Byron chopping down the tree on Mythbusters:

[Scootaloo]

335. It costs four hundred thousand dollars... to fire this weapon for twelve seconds...

[packman]

375. 400k for 12 sec.?

Not that I doubt you, but is that for the ammo cost?

[Aerows]

534. Team Fortress 2 Joke :)

[sabrina 1]

629. He will rise above it. All they are doing is PROVING what he has been saying all along, about

getting the dirty money OUT of our electoral system. In fact he can USE these attacks as examples of what they use it for, to deprive the voters of the opportunity to focus on the issues that concern them by using the lowest, most vile and vicious attacks using some of the worst and most unethical people to do the dirty work, hoping it will distract from the People's Interests.

And don't forget, this time is different. Bernie has a virtual army of hundreds of thousands, growing into the millions of very smart volunteers who, as we saw with Brock's nasty and failed attempt, are ready to react instantly, using THEIR dirty money to benefit Bernie. And the people responded because they are sick to death of this bordering on criminal activity in our campaigns.

This is what needs to be cleaned up and as quickly as possible.

And the only person who is likely to at least TRY to do so, is Bernie Sanders.

[PatrickforO]

218. Oh boy...be CAREFUL of using the 'nIXON' word in this context.

At least don't do it in the Hillary room...

[hifiguy]

224. I calls them the way I sees them.

The parallels are clear. And most of the truly manic Hillionaires seem to have departed for a site mentioned elsewhere in this thread. They are welcome to their sty. And I wouldn't go in the Hillary room for $500.

[PatrickforO]

226. LOL! So does I! Just don't do it in the Hillary room...take it from me got the tee shirt, scars, etc

[Fawke Em]

313. Is that where they go to come up with their brain trust of memes?

If so, LOL!

[Hatchling]

426. I would for $500!

But I wouldn't post anything.

[HooptieWagon]

232. There is the enemies lists...

...both have in common, which illustrates a degree of paranoia.

[sibelian]

636. Hillary supporters have enemies lists...

... and they wonder why people don't trust Hillary.

Maaaaaaybe they should consider the possibility that their attraction to her doesn't stem from as positive a place as they think and maybe that's not so difficult to spot.

They are swept up in a heroic narrative. "Heroes", of course, have enemies.

[marym625]

542. Well said

I was trying to say that yesterday but mucked it up. Very simple, "NO ONE who wants the office that badly should EVER be allowed to hold it." Thank you

I don't trust any corporatist. I, no longer, trust anyone who supports the oligarchs.

I find this all rather sad. Just tells me that the oligarchs planned well.

Dumb down America
Dismantle public education
Make college unaffordable
Control all but the 1%
Jail / imprison the mentally ill, the poor, minorities and.every woman possible for controlling her body
Rape the people monetarily, taking their homes, their land, their self respect
Cause rifts everywhere possible
Vilify all minorities
Whenever possible, use police to beat, mame or even kill anyone, starting with young black men and the mentally disabled
Militarize local police
Use religion as a weapon against all "unChristian" religions
RFRAs
Bust the unions
Right to work
Get rid of 40 hour work week
End overtime pay
Gerrymander the entire fucking country
Run the world
Control the oil starting with Iraq's
Cause world economy to collapse

Well, you get where I'm going. Forgive me, I know I forgot things. The beginning of the end was the vote for the Iraq war. Just look at where the majority that voted "yes" are now.

Just all so incredibly sad, watching people fall into the abyss.

[ObjectiveThinker556]

717. Have had it with the attacks on Hillary

Are we just going to sit here and pretend that Bernie Sanders is somehow different from most White CIS old men? Literally learned all I needed to know about Bernie when he said women fantasize about being raped. Proof positive that he doesn't have any idea what women go through and he thinks we're mentally ill.

I'll stick with Hillary, thank you very much.

[delrem]

732. Nice first post. Have you read "50 Shades"?

Have you ever thought about what it would be, to smoke a cigar while wearing a blue dress and seated in front of a mesmerized POTUS?
Now think about how it would be, to be the wronged wife.
People can well say that the continued relationship of husband and wife is a picture of fidelity.
As the lady in the blue dress has said: We're all adults here.

Thank you for "going there", ObjectiveThinker556, in your first post to DU.

[cyberswede]

745. LOL

Your misnomer aside.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. I wonder where all the people in high dudgeon about Cornel West went?

seems like they were just here, 10 minutes ago.

Odd.

[cali]

11. no shit. this horrible woman is a vivid illustration of hypocrisy

[Scootaloo]

17. They went to hillaryclintonsupporters.com

Where among other things, they have debated whether nadin is "qualified" to be a person of color (apparently she's "not brown enough&quot and there's a post promoting an antisemitic conspiracy theory that Israel is footing Sanders' campaign and promising him a retirement package.

Mostly though, it's just shit like this:

[beam me up scottie]

18. Did you see the anti-Semitic claims they made too?

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=559

[Scootaloo]

19. That's the one, yup

[arcane1]

22. The "Jew Card" is one of the few left in the deck.

Seeing it being played this early is very telling indeed.

[beam me up scottie]

24. Yep, they know they can't get away with it here so they've found another outlet.

[azurnoir]

116. who knew a synonym for cognitive dissonance was also a stinky cheese?

In Los Angeles, a Clinton fundraising dinner will be held by Cheryl and Haim Saban, an entertainment mogul who created the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The billionaire couple, through their family foundation, donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, making the couple among the philanthropy's biggest benefactors. Haim Saban frequently invites the former first lady to his annual foreign policy meetings in Washington.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-foundation-donors-are-funding-hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-2015-4#ixzz3jn5ISbta


Saban recently partnered with Sheldon Adelson in an anti-BDS drive

[sabrina 1]

707. Wait, the creator of the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers holds Foreign Policy meetings in DC?? Is this

person elected or something?

Wow, our system sure has been broken for a long, long time. And how do they get their 'FP policy decisions' implemented? Let me guess, they buy candidates with millions of dollars.

It is an emergency now to get this money out of our system of government, to make it illegal with huge consequences for anyone to try to bribe or buy a politician.

No wonder the country is in the state it's in.

[cui bono]

263. Just calling him a racist is allowed here.

We have our standards.

[beam me up scottie]

266. LOL!

And a pervert with rape fantasies, a gun nut, a draft dodger, a lying moocher...

Did I miss any?

[cui bono]

267. I'm sure you did.

On the other hand, the smearmongers aren't that creative so they're already recycling memes, so actually... probably not.

[beam me up scottie]

268. Well those are just the ones that didn't get hidden.

There are plenty of others.

[RiffRandell]

307. Scootaloo provided us with quite a few upthread.

Since I support Bernie I'm in a cult filled with hate and vengeance, Bernie hates everything, and as a supporter I'm not sensible.

WTF? I've never posted anything disparaging about Hillary.

Thanks for the link, Scoots! Sick, sick shit, but consider the source.

[Autumn]

325. Which cartoon has her upset anyone know ? It should be posted again and again.

It's hypocritical because she hated Hillary with a passion in 08. Almost as much as she hates Bernie.

[Scootaloo]

334. Ugh, for some reason I can't find it now

It's the one where Sanders, Clinton, Jeb, and Trump are marching down their paths; no one is following Jeb or Hillary, Trump's got a little clump of 'baggers, and Bernie's a little behind all three but has a looong throng of people behind him.

[Autumn]

338. Ah. This one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251610202

[Scootaloo]

339. Yup, that one

[Autumn]

341. Luv that toon. I kicked it up that's how much I love it.

Thanks.

[BeanMusical]

348. I did too.

Lovely toon.

[Catherina]

602. I love that one! Here's my new fav

by Matt Wuerker at Politico

[cui bono]

610. That's great!

And so accurate. Which, of course, is what makes it great.

[BeanMusical]

662. Lol!

Hillarious.

[arcane1]

399. "a cult filled with hate and vengeance"

Irony is dead.

[merrily]

449. That is exactly what John Oliver established in the clip posted upthread. It's unbelievable.

[arcane1]

451. I can't wait to get home and watch it.

I'm sure I've seen it before but I have no recollection of it.

[Deny and Shred]

363. You missed several

He is unelectable ... just because ! He's old, his hair is weird, he is a sociologist - or whatever it is that makes him a pinko commie, the only people who support him are Volvo-driving white elites who are somehow concentrated entirely in Iowa and NH. He is, has been, and will be completely ineffective , the GOP won't compromise with him (yet they would compromise with other Dems?) , he commutes to work on a rainbow-farting unicorn, he dated a stripper and has boxes in his garage (that was him, right?) , 40 years of walking the walk on civil rights means black people hate him, sticking to his principles even when not politically expedient means he isn't pragmatic and doesn't understand reality, regularly answering every question about the issues matters less to voters than closed door mega-donor dinners and selfies with Kim & Kanye, watered-down campaign promise versions of his policies are just as good, drawing enormous crowds is irrelevant, shunning corporate donors makes him ... something bad ... unelectable again I guess.

There are more out there , and there will be plenty more to come. Anything but the issues.

[merrily]

345. It's been played already. Just in case anyone was misled by the WASPy sounding surname.

[cali]

29. lots of duers playing in the muck over there

[beam me up scottie]

30. Nice, eh? Good to know what they really think about DU and its members.

[merrily]

468. What confused you before?

They sure tried to let us know in every way possible before creating that :barf: site.

[beam me up scottie]

471. Oh I knew what they thought about us, it's just nice to see it out in the open like that.

Removes any shadow of a doubt for others who weren't aware of what's going on.

[polly7]

476. LOL! ummmm ........ wtf?

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

I've never posted with Bravenak, said a single word against her and I felt horrible that she received a frightening letter in the mail.

But, hey girl! ....... I have plenty of (fantastic!) girlfriends, boyfriends and absolutely no problem looking in the mirror.

I've also never mentioned your name, except in support, so I certainly haven't 'blamed you' for anything what on earth would I blame you for??

Just a thought - spend a little more time thinking about what you're posting and make sure you can back it up, because you're 100% dreaming this up about me.

Jeeezus.




Sorry bmus, appears you're not so well liked either.

[beam me up scottie]

499. The hypocrisy is staggering, isn't it?

I'm being targeted because of who I support and like on DU.

Who is it that's been whining 24/7 about being treated unfairly here and is now doing the same thing?

Maybe they should turn that mirror around and take a good long look in it.

If they can stand it, that is.

[hifiguy]

502. It's well established that I personally have cooties

but I don't know if they've pointed their mental peashooters at me yet. And I couldn't care less if they do.

[beam me up scottie]

503. If we're going to play guilt by association which people are hanging out with anti-Semites again?

And praising racist journalists like Harrop too.

Their house is filthy and they're going to complain about others?

Pffft.

[polly7]

526. It is ............

and sort of funny, when you think about it. I mean, just how angry are they their site has gotten some attention? But, he did post it in his sig line.

Strange for me to see Bravenak personally attacking like that, especially when I only know of her because of that letter.

Sorry you've been targeted ..... but I hope you know really why, you're a powerful voice for your candidate, don't let the lies and muck go unanswered, and they can't debate you and win. Like others I've seen them name over there and start whole threads about - you all have that in common.

[beam me up scottie]

527. Thanks for the kind words, polly.

And the same to you, I don't know you very well but I cannot understand why anyone would say that about you.

You seem like a good person who is here on good faith.

Looks like I'm in good company.

[polly7]

528. I think I'm starting to know why .....

I've been on 'a list' for a long time. Seeing exactly who is over there, I'm sure the whistle went out once I posted in this thread.

No worries, eh?

[beam me up scottie]

529. Nope, none at all.

Like you have many good friends here and irl, I don't need fake ones.

I'll keep keeping on.

[polly7]

531. Awesome ....

[delrem]

724. I really can't recognize it, and I've thought about it because it has been directed at me, too.

And of course anyone who supports Bernie Sanders.

You and I, we don't always agree BMUS.
I seem to remember.
But I like that whacked out bernie-doll avatar-icon.

A lot of times on DU people tell me to get real, to stop expecting that everything make sense.
So I'm learning how to make room for the unreasonable.
Pretty soon maybe I'll learn how to laugh.

[beam me up scottie]

725. Thanks, delrem.

If I didn't know how to laugh all I'd have is anger and sorrow.

And they hate it when we laugh.

[delrem]

726. I'm cracking a smile.

Well I like it.

[arcane1]

504. Glad to see they aren't making this personal.

This might be a good time for me to STFU myself

[beam me up scottie]

511. Good idea, you'll be next on the list if you don't.

The fact that people we know are keeping lists and tracking everything we say here is disturbing.

The Cave has some serious competition when it comes to creepy.

[arcane1]

519. Especially with 4 hides already

Some deserved

[beam me up scottie]

520. Well now we know they're actively using that site to target DUers.

And they complain about our behaviour???

[arcane1]

521. Indeed. Pure projection.

And here I am announcing how vulnerable I am to a timeout. Well, nobody ever accused me of being a genius

[beam me up scottie]

522. It sucks that you have to worry about it.

I'll watch your back.

[arcane1]

523. Thanks! I see it as an opportunity to be more creative with my words

[beam me up scottie]

525. Look on the bright side!

We all need to be creative, knowing you've got four hides already and not getting another while speaking your mind is quite a challenge!

[sabrina 1]

708. Polly, I guess we all look alike, we women who are independent enough to choose a candidate not

approved by Wall St. All in one big box, and sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Hillary is losing women to Bernie at an astounding rate. That box will have to be way bigger in another couple of months.

No surprise since Bernie's record on Women is so far superior to Hillary's. HE eg, voted AGAINST the horrible Welfare Reform Bill predicting what it would do women and children who needed support. Hillary otoh, boasted and still does to my knowledge, or did last time she mentioned it, about how she used her influence as First Lady to get votes for it.

Bernie again, was correct. That legislation devastated poor women and children and spawned many women's orgs to try to do something about it.

Another reason why I support Bernie. He supports US.

[polly7]

709. I agree with all of that, Sabrina.

But this surprised me, as I don't vote there and have never said one negative word about any of your candidates. Neither have I said one word against Bravenak, posted to her, with her .... or anything else. I did post once in a thread in which that letter was being discussed - in support of her. I think it's just that I've been on their list for a long, long time and anything that might goad me into something or other is the goal.

Excellent post though, I can tell how hard you work on all of these issues and with your elections, how educated you are on all of it and how much you care about improving the lives of everyone. I wish you luck, in that the best people to do that are voted in.

[sabrina 1]

718. What it tells you is, since you never had a thing to do with any of this, that someone isn't

basing their material on facts, they are being TOLD who is the 'enemy' and simply accepting it. It's quite shameful actually, that a small group here is spreading lies and innuendos about DUers, like you, and it is just accepted, despite the FACTS.

I've never seen anything like this, but it definitely doesn't surprise me one bit after one glance at the link and seeing who is there.

Sorry you were dragged into something without even a concern in the world whether or not what was said was true in any way.

Certainly makes me question everything else that person has to say and has had to say.

Thanks for the good wishes, we will do our best but as you can see, there will be a well financed effort to stop us.

[delrem]

728. Except that I don't think anyone is that innocent, sabrina.

In the end we're all exactly what we choose.

[in_cog_ni_to]

85. Now they're exposed and we know who they are.

They validated everything I thought about them.

I had them pegged. They hate Jews. It was pretty obvious to me, but of course, we can't say that to them here or we'd be stalked, alerted and banned.

[cali]

98. yes, antisemitism clearly plays a part. I'm surprised they were so open about their bigotry

[William769]

114. Nothing is exposed I am the site Administrator and if you look in my sig line it's been there for

Sometime as has it been in other DU members Sig line. So I ask again how has it been exposed?

I will say this though, we appreciate all the attention we are getting. Could not have done it without you all!

have a great Hillary Day!

[beam me up scottie]

122. Good to know who is allowing anti-Semitic comments to be posted about a Dem candidate there.

I'm sure you're proud of yourself although for the life of me I can't understand why.

[arcane1]

133. "Nothing is exposed now that the site is members-only"

[hifiguy]

138. Their trousers got pulled up a little too late.

Ass was hanging out all over the place.

[William769]

143. It's called crowd control.

We wouldn't want to see any mobs start as we have seen before.

[arcane1]

148. It's a Clinton website, so secrecy is only appropriate.

[hifiguy]

165. Another Pinkie Pie rimshot is well-earned.

First time any thread has required two.

[NuclearDem]

170. Hey! We agreed only one per thread!

[hifiguy]

192. Oh,

[snort]

371. Using a private home based server.

[beam me up scottie]

150. Mobs = Bernie's supporters calling out anti-Semitism, claims of racism and other assorted smears.

Too late, you shouldn't have advertised that garbage here.

[arcane1]

171. It looks like it's still possible to register there, so the "mob-prevention" thing is bullshit

It's just to prevent non-members from seeing what is being said

FYI, I'm not going to register there. I saw enough.

[beam me up scottie]

200. Yep, me too.

And thanks to Scootaloo so did a lot of other people.

[SMC22307]

290. So, what is it? The BOG, AA, HOF and Hillary Clinton groups...

whining about DU à la The Conservative Cave? No substance, just whining about... DUers? People sure seem to have a lot of time on their hands!

[beam me up scottie]

292. I don't know what groups they post in but it was a lot like the Cave.

I suppose there could be some sort of campaigning for Hillary going on there but I never saw any.

Everyone needs a hobby.

[SMC22307]

302. Democrats for Progress is a big ol' loser...

and that seems to cheese some of them off to no end. They have a Facebook page. I'm not a member, but I've heard it's nothing but whining about DUers. I seem to recall one of them declaring "we talk offline!," as if that meant anything. And now this DU-bashing Hillary site. They're adorable.

[BeanMusical]

301. Conservative Cave is the first thing that came to mind after reading some of that garbage!

[SMC22307]

304. I hope they stick to their new obsession...

I won't miss them one bit. They do nothing but try to bring down DU, bust on the site owners, play victim, play the -ist cards... GOOD RIDDANCE.

[BeanMusical]

312. I second that emotion.

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[MoveIt]

537. I heard it costs $2700 per new login now

surge pricing x astroturfing x persona management,

the mash up you knew 2016 was waiting for!

[arcane1]

578. .

[BeanMusical]

300. Nope, it's called having a lot of ugly things to hide.

But don't worry, lot of screenshots will start popping up faster than you think.

[Autumn]

315. I hope so. I missed all the good stuff.

[BeanMusical]

319. Oh, it will happen.

[Autumn]

322. You rascal you

[sheshe2]

329. Ha!

I can see you now.

I took someone off ignore. They are going back real soon.

Hugs~

[jeff47]

408. If that was true, you wouldn't have left registration wide open.

Thanks for that, btw. Enjoy trying to find me.

[sibelian]

638. No, William. It's called cowardice.

[senz]

180. Maybe you should monitor your site more closely, William769.

Assuming you have "standards."

[NuclearDem]

190. Lovely minority outreach you've got going on there.

You do seem to know an awful lot about posters here for only having been here a month.

[Warren DeMontague]

241. Classy site you've got there, Bill.

You must be very proud.

[William769]

246. Thank you and yes I am.

The forum part is only a small part of the site. The main part which is here http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/ was done with the labor of love.

I understand though people with blinders on only see what they want to see.

[beam me up scottie]

251. Well everyone here was impressed as you can see.

We didn't have blinders on when we read the revolting things that were said about Bernie and your fellow DUers at your website.

You closed the curtain too late.

[William769]

253. It's intermission.

[beam me up scottie]

256. So about that nest egg Bernie allegedly has in Israel, any proof of that claim?

Or is accusing Jewish Americans of dual loyalty to Israel just what you guys do for fun?

[William769]

269. Is Skinner held accountable for everything posted here?

I have moderators I defer to their judgement as any board would.

Was I the one that posted what you ask?

And before you ask, I am not going to comment on everything posted on the site (I would never get any sleep).

If I have a comment to make on Senator Sanders I will make it, and you will know it's from me.

[beam me up scottie]

270. Nice dodge. I think Skinner would get rid of a blatant anti-Semite pdq.

He's rid the place of plenty of bigots in the past.

Too bad your standards aren't as strict.

But hey, like you said, you're proud of what's posted there.

[William769]

272. Please feel free to send him my name.

[beam me up scottie]

273. Why? I'm sure he knows all about your site and what you do there isn't his responsibility.

And thanks to Scootaloo many others also know what goes on there.

[William769]

275. Feel free to pass the link to the site around.

[beam me up scottie]

277. No, we've all seen enough, thanks. I used to like and respect some of the members.

But now that they've shown their true colours I'm reminded of the Cave dwellers who only exist to trash DU and its members.

[William769]

286. Again report the site to Skinner.

I have already been called a anti-Semite, just go ahead and add a RW Troll to the list. After all that's what your inferring here. But we know that won't happen it's just the inferring you want to do. And BTW there's a word for that.

I await Skinner's action or inaction.

Have a nice night.

[beam me up scottie]

288. Who called you an anti-Semite? Are you one? And again you're not Skinner's responsibility.

He has no control over what happens at your website so why do you keep asking to be "reported"?

Seems kind of odd.

[sibelian]

640. It's being reported...

...to YOU.

[azurnoir]

374. yep it's back up and seems ummm cleaner too

[Wankle Ronnie]

284. Excuse me..

But could you point me to that thread? Hillaryclintonsupporters.com is new to me...

[beam me up scottie]

285. It's closed to outsiders now, they decided that it was getting too much bad press here.

But before they closed the curtain many of us got a good look at what's being said over there.

[BeanMusical]

310. "they decided that it was getting too much bad press here"

Hum, also sounds a lot like embarrassment. From my personal experience with private boards, the more you are trying to keep things from leaking the more paranoid the members eventually become and it usually produces factions and then it gets really ugly. So I wish them a lot of fun before the implosion.

[arcane1]

384. Cults tend to shy away from outsiders too n/t

[BeanMusical]

412. Some of them are real fanatics.

They don't even realize that Hillary don't give a damn about them and wouldn't even give them the time of day if they crossed her path. She doesn't care about the proles, the 99%.

[merrily]

462. Poster, please. Decent websites have rules against bigotry of all kinds.

[sabrina 1]

710. You say you are the admins over there. I was an admins on a far, far larger site than that is ever

going be. We had no problem getting rid of that kind of bigotry as soon as it appeared, including those who exposed themselves as such. They were gone in a flash. As a result, the site was free of bigots, it wasn't welcoming to them.

Anyhow, good luck, clicked on it once, won't be doing so again. It reminded me of the Cave, dedicated to the bashing of Du and DUers. Pretty boring since we are all familiar with that kind of site by now. Being bashed on sites like that is a badge of honor, now I guess we'll all have two badges. Cool!

[840high]

306. Is that a code word for anti-semitism?

[BeanMusical]

318. So DUers are cockroaches. Understood.

Hey Bill, are the casual members aware of the forums that can only be accessed by a chosen few? I'm sure that you'll deny that there is such a thing going on at your little utopia but from what I've seen over the years with these types of boards it's the case 99% of the time.

[azurnoir]

372. like in a play where the stage sets are changed?

[lumberjack_jeff]

719. What a cast of characters.

A maladapted bunch.

I am convinced that one of them was "Mr Citizen"

It's exactly the kind of ratfucking to which they're temperamentally suited.

[sibelian]

773. It's all of them in one place!

[cui bono]

252. Wow.

Just wow.

Really a new low. I didn't think it was possible. That you think this is all so funny and can have such a rude and flippant and truly disgusting attitude about it is truly sad. I don't know how you all live with yourselves. Honestly. I would hate to be such a human being as that.

[William769]

255. Ditto.

[cui bono]

258. Only I haven't done what you have done, nor acted as you have acted.

You really should be ashamed. You are acting as if you just don't care about decency and integrity. Is that true?

And if everything is so wonderful, why did you suddenly hide the site when the ugliness was exposed? I thought you welcomed all the attention? That's what you said anyway.

[sheshe2]

257. ;)

[William769]

264. Have I got it, or have I got it?

[sheshe2]

274. I have been gone all day...

Home an hour ago~

Ya, you got it!

[William769]

276. And they can't have it!

[sheshe2]

331. Yup.

Theres.....done

[BeanMusical]

330. If by it you mean a now nasty reputation then you are correct.

And since you are also a member of that Cave-style board that is trashing DUers don't be surprised if many people treat you differently from now on. Good night.

[polly7]

278. Got what? nt.

[beam me up scottie]

280. I'm guessing it's not shame.

You read their posts too, so you know what I'm talking about.

[polly7]

287. I sure did and if it weren't for the sliming and nasty stuff, it would be slim pickings, imo.

Of course i didn't get to read the whole site as it was blocked pretty quickly for some reason.

I agree with you.

[beam me up scottie]

289. I'm sure they didn't like the spotlight that was shining on them.

If I had said some of the things I saw there I wouldn't either.

Not a pretty picture.

[hifiguy]

439. Moral leprosy?

Just a thought.

[sibelian]

430. I wouldn't be so pleased with the traffic if I were you.

What it means is that a lot of people will see your site's content.

[Ed Suspicious]

100. The amount of familiar screen names and posting M.O.s is astonishing.

[PatrickforO]

225. Yeah, it kind of seems like the Conservative Cave in that respect.

Lots of naming names, referring to specific people.

Don't reveal too much about yourself on here, seriously. These people are doing their best to make this NOT a community.

[Aerows]

343. Am I the militant Sanders

supporter with the astrology avatar, or the militant lesbian with lots of problems?

I mean, I'm probably both and ashamed of neither, but when you put it that way I DO sound pretty lame.

And I don't give a fuck because I have enough awesome in my life that it's like a pack of ants swatting at a cat.

[bvar22]

185. I thought that a pig was the only animal that ate, played, and slept its own shit.

I was wrong.
At least one group of Humans do that too.

[sheshe2]

327. Hmmmm~

not here tough. Clean as a whistle.

[BeanMusical]

427. Not as clean as you think. Shit and mud can be very sticky after playing in it for a while.

And that place is a sewer.

[truebrit71]

871. Yup, and then come here and feign their innocence....

.... fucking disgusting....

[djean111]

34. That is pretty much the equivalent of Freepers.

Holy shit.

[cali]

37. the harrop piece was, of course, posted there

It's sad to note who posted it.
http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=615

[djean111]

43. I think that was inevitable.

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Mixture of HRC worship and Obama adoration. How DARE Bernie!
Very instructive stuff. Makes the whining about Bernie's supporters bizarre.

[BeanMusical]

352. I've been reading a lot of that filt (I guess that I enjoy train-wrecks) and it's obvious that

some of them are seriously disturbed.

[djean111]

353. I think so, too. Really creepily disturbed. n/t

[arcane1]

46. Sadly unsurprising n/t

[ALBliberal]

55. Very sad

[frylock]

60. That's disappointing.

[hifiguy]

61. The cult of personality on their side baffles me completely.

Facts mean nothing. Reason means less. It seems to be flirting with an almost Maoist or Jim Jones/People's Temple level of complete self-delusion and paranoia. It's a fandom more than a candidacy and it has been cranked up to 11. I leave my fannish impulses over at Equestria Daily where they belong.

ETA: For me, and I suspect 99% of Bernie supporters it's about what he is SAYING and what he STANDS FOR. It isn't about Bernie personally, and if he hadn't run but Liz Warren had, we'd be backing her as ardently as we back Bernie because she stands for many of the same things Bernie does. And Bernie always says it is NOT about him. For us it seems to be about IDEAS and we are willing to get behind anyone who stands for those genuinely progressive and Democratic ideas.

[Ed Suspicious]

87. Truth.

[cui bono]

250. +1,000,000

[Live and Learn]

354. +1 nt

[HooptieWagon]

379. Remember the PUMAs?

And the HillIs44 site? Whole lot of bilious racism and hate being spewed. Now the opponant is Jewish so theyre spewing anti-Semitic hatred. It seems that Hillary is the Pied Piper for gathering unhinged supporters.

[hifiguy]

418. Oh yes.

I was here in '08 w/a different moniker. I was an early Obama supporter mainly because of Ted and Caroline's endorsements. And I remember it well. It was nasty, but this is already considerably worse.

[LiberalArkie]

683. I think HRC lived in Arkansas too long and associated with the people at Stephens too much.

[Art_from_Ark]

837. Not only Stephens

When she was on the Walmart board, the joke among some UofA professors was that her serving on the board was "the best of both worlds-- Hillary gets to rub shoulders with America's Richest Man, and Sam has practically a direct line to the Governor". I think that "rubbing shoulders with America's Richest Man" was a very corrupting influence.

[Warren DeMontague]

524. The projection on that particular issue is astounding- and interesting from a psychoanalytical

perspective.

Here you have a group of people who- many of them- are completely enamored with Hillary™ the brand, or what Hillary™ as a candidate represents in their heads, or otherwise over-identified with her in such a way that there is some sort of deep emotional thing going on-- I really think, after observing for a while; that Hillary represents something, some salve or vindication or 'payback' or what have you for some subconscious or deeply buried dealio in some of these folks' lives.

It would be easy to say, "well, they just want a female President"- and many HRC supporters acknowledge as much... certainly, I think it's past time for a woman President, too, but that's not the only criteria-- but it was made pretty clear early on that for whatever reason, Liz Warren- who many of us really would have liked to see in the race- would NOT have satisfied that particular whatever-it-is, that HRC does.

And no small part of it is that, in the minds of many of this crowd, Hillary was 'robbed' in 2008 and they're still mad- but beyond that, again, she seems to be an icon in these folks' heads of something which is wildly removed from anywhere she is actually likely to govern.

Which is the bottom line, here, as far as I'm concerned- I've sort of assumed from the get-go that Hillary would be the nominee, I think odds are pretty good (but not a slam dunk) that she still will be, and all along I've been okay with that. Not hugely excited, because I understand that would likely mean a lot of status quo, potentially some policy worse than Obama (who I think will be remembered better, by history, than folks realize) but en masse not a whole lot of exciting stuff either way. Which is fine, I'd much rather have a status quo establishment Democrat than the clusterfuck promised by any of the GOP clowns. I was open to supporting her at the beginning but my fear was always that she was going to run this horrible, poll-tested, out of touch, empty platitude and pablum campaign.

When she got rolling with the soft-focus video and "I want to empower communities and families" I went, "oh fuck, here we go"

If you look over at that other site, the hate for Sanders is palpable-- and frankly, more than a little unhinged. Really, one wonders what it is they hate SO MUCH about this man who, whether or not one is gonna support him in the primaries, has undeniably spent his career fighting for progressive causes. It baffles, until you realize that it wouldn't matter who the fuck Sanders was, what matters is he's throwing a wrench into the inevitability machine, and ITS HER TURN and if she doesn't win again it will be SO. NOT. FAIR.



and then they turn around and call the Sanders people "cultists". It's fucking goofy.

[hifiguy]

581. A great analysis

[arcane1]

590. Indeed, for some, the "brand" seems more important than her actual policies.

Some of those posts about Sanders are so false and delusional, it's amazing anyone would actually believe it, or even pretend to believe it. But there it is. And yet Clinton's position of the day is always correct, and if it changes then the new position is correct.

He got in the way of a "winning brand" and any defense against that is, apparently, acceptable.

[Warren DeMontague]

591. I can count her actual "positions" on one hand. That's part of the thing.

It doesn't matter because HILLAREEE'S 4 U AND ME!

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go "have a great Hillary day", with that jaunty tune stuck in my ear

[sibelian]

772. Well... I think it's what I've been banging on about on this site since I started here.

The whole "Bad things have happened to me so I must be the good guy" thing.

Yeeeeeah. That's. Not. How. It. Works....

It's very easy to suppose that Hillary's treatment emerges from her qualities rather than her conduct, but only if you're already the kind of person who uses a personal history of being judged for one's for immutable qualities rather than one's conduct as an excuse for appalling conduct.

They see themselves in her. Everyone's meeeeean to her so she must be the good guy.... like THEY are. And, of course, the good guys can be as horrible as they like, it's only the bad guys that aren't allowed to be horrible.

[pscot]

63. I miss her less every day

[Scootaloo]

68. She put up a reply to this post of yours

I'm guessing she didn't read the OP ofthis thread, though.

Holding out hope!

[cali]

76. she told me repeatedly that she would never forgive the racist dog whistles

used in 2008. Never turned out to be a very short period of time.

[demmiblue]

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The alerter needs a mirror, FFS. I am guessing it is coming from that right-leaning Clinton supporter site (aka, the anti-semite site) that eerily resembles the Cave.

[BeanMusical]

459. "This is, plain and simple, personal stalking AND attacks on other members, one in particular. "

Irony is not dead.

[jfern]

472. Yes, it's pretty clear she got silenced because she got alert stalked

Of course it won't be our side playing the victim card forever.

[azurnoir]

376. well at the very least

it's good to know that so many weathervanes weren't sacrificed for nothing

[MuseRider]

81. Oh no.

I really liked her and was so sad to see her on a long time out.

[Prism]

99. That surprised me

Or not, maybe. People get really unhinged over board spats and can begin to warp reality to suit their personal vendettas.

But yeah, the Clinton social justice cohort is either dead silent or approving of this stuff, so I think I can safely dismiss everything they have to say from this point forward.

Not that I wasn't cynical about their motives before, but now the hypocrisy has reached self-collapsible levels.

[ibegurpard]

176. never bought her act

[840high]

202. Neither did I.

[SMC22307]

295. Me neither.

And I feel like going Cher-on-Nicolas-Cage to those who have.

Wonder if Homeland Security has figured out who sent the *threatening* letter yet.

[enigmatic]

309. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

I was juror #5:

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Me neither.
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[SMC22307]

314. Thank you for sharing that...

and for your vote, for that matter.

I hope people pay attention to Juror #1, who put quite a bit into that vote. I'm sick of certain groups here doing nothing but maligning DU, and I see I'm not alone.

Enjoy your new website folks... good riddance.

[Puglover]

393. Just another

OET. It will be a ghost town. The vitriol tends to burn itself out.

[merrily]

453. Snap out of it!

[LondonReign2]

383. Totally agree, never bought the act either

[MoveIt]

400. And look at those who did

Play acting.

[LondonReign2]

381. Not surprised or sad, very much expected IMO

[snort]

391. Followed the link, UGH!

WTF? I thought conservatives were the authoritarians with the 'my color! team shirt!' problem. I'm a Bernie supporter who will push the button for Hillary if she is the nominee. In the meantime, she hardly needs my support.

[jeff47]

428. Conservatives are the authoritarians. Conservatives are not all Republicans. (nt)

[haikugal]

557. She can't post here so she goes there and talks back to you.

The content is really rank..

Re: Harrop: The intolerence of Bernie Sanders
Postby Ismnotwasm » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:25 pm

Movement politics tend to be narcissistic and dictatorial. They allow dissent only within a narrow philosophical band. That constrains the ability to hear through others' ears.

Yes indeed
#fuckthebern

Given how I was treated in the AA forum this bit is laughable. I had no idea...

I just found this thread...it's a good one!

[Waiting For Everyman]

560. Glad that more are seeing what some of us

were posting against as of quite a while ago. But we were told we were racists for being right. And you still haven't seen the worst of it, this is still the "cleaned up" version of the act. As a newbie, some of us saw enough ugly behavior to refuse to reply after that.

I don't need to be treated viciously myself to know who that person doing it is. When I see it done to others, that is "case closed".

And I stand on my view on the "controversy". Absofuckinglutely. Some of us can read character, or lack thereof. And who can forget that lineup for virtual hugs... omg.

[sabrina 1]

755. Wow, look at all the cheerleading for a bigot like this woman over there! They better never again

accuse anyone here of racism after reading that thread. It isn't sad, it's disgusting. She has been trashed, and was when Obama was running, probably by some of the same people now holding her racist views up on a pedestal.

Ugh!

[polly7]

88. The 'Grumble' forum is even worse than the Cave.

A lot of very bitter posters there fixated on people here.

[beam me up scottie]

91. No kidding. It's like they started a competing website to complain about DUers.

[polly7]

95. Yep.

So much hate ........ so much time.

I guess it's nice they're all together there having fun at it, though. People gotta have fun.

[beam me up scottie]

96. It does make it nicer here.

I hope they keep it going, it's nice to know who your friends are.

Plus we can monitor the attacks before they're launched here.

[polly7]

407. Wow. The 'Grumble' isn't readable anymore .......... too much awfulness being spewed, I guess, for

public reading - but holy crap there's still a whole lot of it all over that place. And they hide posts that are even worse (can't imagine how bad they must be). I don't see supporters of other candidates here filled with so much anger and what appears to be pure hate.

Those people need to calm down, they're going to stroke out if they keep that up.

[beam me up scottie]

411. The hatred for Bernie is off the charts.

I have no idea what he did to make them hate him so much, it's like reading FreeRepublic.

[polly7]

422. It is. Really ugly. nt.

[HooptieWagon]

431. Two reasons.

1) He dared to challange HRH's inevidibility, along with 2) a sizeable dose of anti-semitism.

[beam me up scottie]

434. Good point.

They're desperately trying to dig up dirt on Bernie and the best they can do is "JEW!!1!"

[d_legendary1]

493. He ran against HRC

nuff said.

[hifiguy]

582. The ultimate insult to Her Royal Inevitability.

Unforgivable. It should be hers by divine right.

[BeanMusical]

429. They can delete as many posts as they want, I archived several pages yesterday.

[polly7]

432. From the Grumble?

It's the 'Dumpster' of the Cave ...... only more vicious. No wonder it's the most popular forum there, coincidentally, just like the Dumpster! It was pretty eye-opening reading while I could, didn't think I'd see that level of hatred from DU members currently posting that seem quite likable here, in many cases. Guess they're just posing here.

[BeanMusical]

437. No, unfortunately. It was already locked when I first went there.

Well, it shows that they're a little bit embarrassed by some of the crap that they're spewing. And that they are chickens.

[polly7]

440. Well there's still plenty of it all over the site, from what I read this morning.

Someone may be busy with the mop and bucket for a while. Or not .... seems quite proud of the garbage directed towards people here, who from what I've seen, don't deserve any of it.

[BeanMusical]

445. I'm sure that when they'll crawl back here they'll get a warm welcome.

[arcane1]

442. I was surprised to see that they had invented such a fictional "Sanders" to rag on

I mean seriously, when people are going around saying he "Hates everything", you're not dealing with rational or honest people. They attack using Whatever Means Available, and somehow manage to convince themselves it's true. Or at least they pretend to be convinced.

Because "winning".

[polly7]

447. I think you're right.

And I don't even vote here, but I find it sad, because he seems like a good, honest man who's never hurt a soul in his life. Making up crap about his supporters is one thing, but the things they're saying about him are just so overboard. I wonder if they'd say it to his face.

[arcane1]

450. Exactly. And since it's nearly impossible to beat him on policy, they defame him.

It's shameless.

[840high]

203. Small minds at work.

[beam me up scottie]

205. And they're posting post after post here about how awful Bernie's supporters are.

Hypocrites.

[merrily]

494. And how they love him so much, but they just can't support him because his supporters are nasty.

Truth AND irony meters broken

[Wankle Ronnie]

293. And I've been looking for a signup...

apparently it is 100% closed to outsiders.. Only loyalty and blood oath gives them access.

It is an echo chamber. Nothing more.

Whatever. Reminds me of a bunch of anti-$NAME_YOUR_CANDIDATE websites that sprung up every primaries.

[merrily]

497. ewwww. why?

[MuseRider]

69. Holy shit that is disgusting

but par for the course for a lot of them. The old "of course he does this because he IS that" or as someone else called it "the Jew card". My husband is Jewish and somehow just about everyone ends up talking about Israel or Jewish biblical interpretation. He finds it so odd and uncomfortable and has said it makes him as uncomfortable as it would if they just out and out called him a "**" (won't say it). He absolutely believes that is racist just to assume he is all in with "all the rest of them".

[beam me up scottie]

71. That person is on a time out from DU, because they were "silenced" you know.

Just like all the others who are showing their true colours there.

[DonCoquixote]

79. whoa

regardless of whether you disagree with bravenak, you have to admit that her being harassed off cyberspace my someone claiming to be a Bernie supporter was unacceptable, even Skinner saw that.

[beam me up scottie]

80. I wasn't talking about her, I was talking about the author of the anti-Semitic hit piece.

Skinner said that people on timeouts deserve to be there and I agree.

But let me be clear: The people with multiple suspensions (and even people with just one suspension) are EXTREME outliers. They represent a fraction of a fraction of DU members. The vast majority of DU members are able to participate here without ever coming close to that 5-hide threshold. And the reason they never come close to being suspended is because they are making an effort to be civil, non-disruptive, even positive members of the community. It really isn't hard to do, but you have to actually try.

I never had a problem with bravenak and was surprised to see her badmouth me over there.

Oh well, I'm not going to lose sleep over what they're saying about me.

[hifiguy]

128. I can think of several regulars here who have spent more time

on time-out than being able to post the last few months. If they head over there, fine. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[beam me up scottie]

130. If it cuts down on the divisiveness here then it's all good.

I'm no saint - I own my hide, I sure as hell don't blame everyone else for making me a victim like all of the HC supporters who are on vacation.

[HooptieWagon]

401. Plain to see why they were 'silenced'.

Whole lot of anti-semitism and hate on that site that doesn't get past most juries on DU.

[beam me up scottie]

406. Yes, at least here they have to pretend they're not anti-Semitic.

[hifiguy]

120. Now behind a log-in wall, even to VIEW.

Jebus, they ARE paranoid, aren't they?

[beam me up scottie]

124. Too late! We already know who's posting there.

Good thing there's only a few of them.

[HooptieWagon]

236. Paranoid, enemies lists,...

...dirty tricks...starting to sound like the Nixon gang.

[azurnoir]

123. It was removed or hidden hope someone got screen shots of that filth

[beam me up scottie]

125. The site administrator just admitted it here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=617171

[azurnoir]

126. Lol lot's to hide over there

[beam me up scottie]

127. There sure is, I wonder why they're suddenly ashamed of it?

Most used the same user names they have here.

[BeanMusical]

344. That one should be banned IMHO.

Would that POS franksolich be allowed to be a member here?

[stranger81]

488. He probably is a member here.

Lots of Cavers purport to be, in any event.

[azurnoir]

370. want a laugh? go back and check your orginal link to the thread on that other site

it's back up but it's different somehow

but ya know what they say-it's one thing to know and another to.......

[beam me up scottie]

425. Yep, looks like the scrubbed some of the worst comments.

But it's too late, we saw the mess before housekeeping got there.

[NuclearDem]

136. I post over there, and I hadn't seen that before.

And yes, it's fucking disgusting. The "disloyal Jew" trope is one of the ugliest canards out there, and any issue I have Sanders as a candidate has nothing to do with his religious and ethnic background, and I don't believe for a second that his loyalty to this country has ever or should ever be in question.

[beam me up scottie]

141. The things that are said about Bernie there are revolting.

I have to live with myself after the primaries and I would NEVER talk about Hillary that way.

Nor would I associate with anyone who does.

[NuclearDem]

147. I know. You're good people, BMUS.

Each camp has its share of nasty. Some of the things said after the Seattle incident with BLM made me want to vomit.

[beam me up scottie]

153. Me too.

But we're only responsible for our own actions.

I hope everyone steps back and thinks about how the things said during the primaries will affect long term relationships.

I like and respect many HC supporters and consider them friends.

[senz]

177. The link requires a log on.

Do they do their dirty work in secret? If so, it figures.

[beam me up scottie]

178. Now it does - they decided to hide it after it was posted here.

Too late, most people were able to see what goes on there.

[Aerows]

321. I'll be candid

I honestly did *not* believe that antisemitism was a motivation, but now? Someone else suggested to me that I think twice about whether or not that was a factor.

I said, eh maybe, but didn't really believe it.

Now, I'm kind of pissed that we can have such snakes in our midst and I failed to believe it.

[BeanMusical]

346. I wasn't able to go to that link earlier but it now works and I could read the

whole antisemitic garbage. I'm nauseated and furious! I saved the page on my Hard Drive and on web.archive.org (Way-back Machine) in case they decide to delete it or something.

http://web.archive.org/web/20150924080750/http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=559

[arcane1]

394. "Deductive reasoning"

[BeanMusical]

415. Lol, yeah. That one almost ruined my keyboard.

[beam me up scottie]

409. "I knew there had to be a connect between Israel & Sanders."

I sincerely hope that poster never comes back here.

And everyone who let that comment go without calling out the disgusting anti-Semitism should ask themselves why they think it's acceptable to accuse a Jewish Senator who's running for the Democratic nomination of being funded by Israel.

[BeanMusical]

420. The irony is that they are calling us "haters".

Very telling to me about Sanders is that he doesn't eat with the other Senators. He eats with staff.
Now, the Bernieturds think that is a sign of the common man. I think it's a sign that he can't get along with the Senators and that they won't talk to him because he is such a preacher.

Bet the staff is glad for the days that he's not there. Just saying.

On another thread:

Post by boston » Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:51 pm

Give me a B. Give me an S.

What do you got?

BS

What does it mean?

Bull Shit

Give me a D

Give me a U

What do you got?

DU

What does it mean?

Deluded Untruth

Put em together

BSDU

What do you get?

Bull Shit Deluded Untruth

BSDU

Very mature. If they hate DU so much why don't they just leave for good?

ETA:

So-- they won't be voting for Hillary. What a bunch of pathetic seeped in asshole-tea people. Worse than Republicans in a strange way, because that additide helps republicans win.

BS hates everything.. he's a professional hell raiser using platitudes, demagoguery, hyperbole, and LIES.

Bernie and Trump are both HATE.. Too bad I can't write that below their stupid fantasy. who drew that stupid toon?

mahalo jules

[beam me up scottie]

423. I guess making fun of someone's initials is what passes for political discourse over there.

Oh, wait, they do that here too.

"BS"

Giggle ... snicker ... hee hee ... we so bad

[BeanMusical]

424. Yeah, 5th grade level "humor".

[BeanMusical]

433. Oh look, a message of love from "Chae":

Creep stalk this, BSers.. Festering hate running around in the muck.. thinking you've "exposed" a Hillary site?.. No, you're wrong again. The link was always there in sig lines for those who wanted to join a site for her supporters.

I knew there would be those lurking and possibly even taking it to DU. I really have NMFTG. I said what I thought and I'm happy you're frothing at the mouth, and getting yourselves all worked up in a tizzy.. BS cultists are raging on #BlackLivesMatter Activists all over the net, and anyone else who doesn't bow at the fucking altar of Berntoast.

Don't be so freaking shocked when anyone wants to get away from that smouldering mountain of BS, and calls you out on your never-ending maze of bullshit.

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=580#p5934

Mahalo, Chae! We love you too!

[beam me up scottie]

438. Isn't that the same person who called Hillary "a lying, pandering fighter"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6017420&mesg_id=6018254

And posted this cartoon on DU2?:




How odd.

[BeanMusical]

452. Oh wow, I'm speechless.

Talk about a weird change of allegiance. There's something seriously wrong with that person.

[merrily]

461. If you DU search quite a few screen names, you are likely to come up with the same kind of thing.

Apparently, Hillary is not the only one who evolves.

[BeanMusical]

465. I noticed that a majority of the BOGs are now Hillary zealots. And the most fanatical ones.

Weird that they can switch idols like that.

[merrily]

466. Because Bernie supporters.

[BeanMusical]

469. Lol, yeah.

[arcane1]

441. "You exposed nothing, that's why we hid the section you exposed"

[hifiguy]

457. Thanks for capping that.

Wow, what a horrendous pile of steaming shit that is.

[BeanMusical]

467. They really remind me of the Cave weirdos.

Very nasty toward the majority of DUers.

[Autumn]

742. HillsHouse. I read a post there and I know exactly who that is. I was wondering where she

and her #fuckthebern had gone to.

[arcane1]

20. I thought you were inventing that website and its contents.

No surprise to see some of the names there. Or the content. Quite the echo chamber!

[beam me up scottie]

23. They posted links to it here, like they want us to see what they're saying.

[historylovr]

92. I wish I hadn't gone over to look.

Holy shit.

[hifiguy]

135. I did too.

Feels almost like Fweeperland. Bitter, angry people who see nothing but the demons tattooed on the insides of their own eyelids.

[historylovr]

377. It's a little late, but here ... :passes barf bag:

[m-lekktor]

31. Did you check out the list of "unbiased sources" at that site!? ROFL nt

[stranger81]

33. Interesting website.

Looks like most of my ignore list has decamped there.

[Warren DeMontague]

38. Ah. Isn't that just ducky.

It certainly explains a blissful level of quiet around some parts.

[m-lekktor]

41. it's the "other, friendlier place wink wink" some keep alluding to lately in their posts. nt

[cali]

45. it's a hate filled sewer, complete with antisemitism

[m-lekktor]

50. I haven't read much there, I DID take note of their list of unbiased sources.

you know, the sites run by David Brock. lol

[hifiguy]

65. The resemblance to Freeperland

in the viciousness and paranoia is hard to miss.

[TheKentuckian]

97. The perfect fusion of sad, disappointing, pitiful, insightful, disgusting, and contemptible.

A couple or a few kinda make me heartbroken. Very disappointing.

[Warren DeMontague]

58. yeah, I figured as much.

I guess Hillary4Uandme.com was taken?

[beam me up scottie]

44. It suddenly got even quieter.

I wonder why?

[m-lekktor]

64. they're having a big discussion in their "members only" group over there probably.

deciding whether to make the whole site visible to members only after this thread! that would be my guess!

[beam me up scottie]

67. Or whether to change their names so we don't know who's posting that garbage.

[polly7]

110. It's pretty obvious who is posting.

Some real names here, one with all the old enemies and word salad. I doubt they'll change names, they seem quite proud of themselves. The Grumble is like reading at the Cave though, I wonder if they realize their obsession isn't quite healthy.

[beam me up scottie]

115. I figured it out quickly too. I am surprised at the things they're saying about Bernie.

Anti-Semitism, calling him a perverted old man, etc.

I don't like Hillary but I would never talk about her like that, even off site.

[polly7]

151. Yes, it was sad to read.

I think he's a good man with a huge heart and who genuinely cares about all people. He doesn't deserve that kind of nastiness, imho .... from reading here and other sites, I honestly don't see what he's done to deserve it.

[arcane1]

158. He challenged and exposed big money. That's his crime.

The defenders of big money aren't too happy about that.

[polly7]

210. And that's a real shame.

Something about him reminds me of what I know of Tommy Douglas up here - his spunk, determination, and 'I don't give a * attitude' to the all-powerful against him when it comes to what he really believes in.

[sabrina 1]

552. He tells the truth about the corrupt system we've been living under and that scares them to death

because people are reacting positively to what he is saying, not because they didn't KNOW IT, but he is giving the people a VOICE.

I love watching how they are so desperate they are actually only HELPING HIM.

[polly7]

555. Hmmm ........

I've read just today that no-one is listening to him, he's making no impact, and he's toast.

You're right, so much of that negativity and so vocal ....... they really are drawing attention to him and people aren't stupid, once they investigate a bit they'll decide on their own how to view him.

Good to see you, sabrina!

[sabrina 1]

759. What he's done is to succeed in challenging the status quo that has so failed the American people.

They thought they had it all wrapped up and the people have no option but to put up with the same old system. They had no idea how angry the people were until Bernie stepped up and gave them a voice.

Same old garbage from the authoritarians who think they own this country. Bernie is demonstrating that the People own it or did until it was stolen from them, and he has volunteered to help them restore the democracy we still pretend to be.

You can't challenge the powerful without consequences. They will do anything to hold on to what they have stolen and to keep their laws in place to protect them, such as Citizens United.

This is probably only the beginning of what they will resort to in order to prevent the PEOPLE from getting the kind of government they want.

But we knew this, so did Bernie. But it has to start somewhere and there's no time like the present.

Let them wallow in their hatred and poutrage, the people will do all they can to get this country out of the hands of those who have so harmed it and harmed other countries as well.

That's what he did, he showed them they are not all powerful, that the people have not accepted their oligarchical rule, and they will keep trying until they restore democracy in this country

[polly7]

760. You rock, Sabrina, and I think your Bernie rocks too.

Very well stated.

I wish you could clone him and send him up here.

It is obvious that people comfortable with the status quo will fight tooth and nail to not change it. They seem to have no vision outside their own personal welfare, which is why I found their use of minorities to try to bring him down with just ...... bad. If they'll do that, they'll do anything, imo. Our conservatives up here are using the same tricks right now - some of the ads on TV are so sad you feel like throwing something through a wall.

[sabrina 1]

761. So do you polly. I am sad about your country, and we feel responsible for some of it since our

war criminals, still free btw, still spewing their lies here, seemed to have influenced some of your reps also.

Bernie won't be able to fix everything they have destroyed by himself, that is why he needs milli!ons of people to support him. And against all the odds, he appears to be getting that support, which only goes to show how sick people are with those in power. And that is why we see all the temper tantrums.

They will make stuff, have actually, align themselves with snakes like David Brock, as we saw, lie, cheat and spend billions if necessary to try to stop him, and US. But so far, they have failed. Their old dirty tricks are not working as well as they used to.

It's happening in Greece, in the UK, here and anywhere the neoliberals have imposed their disastrous policies on the people. I hope it happens in Canada too. If we do succeed here, I have a feeling it will inspire other countries to do the same.

[polly7]

762. I hope so!

I'll be crossing my fingers and toes for all of us.

Unless there is big change in many, many countries very soon ....... we're all screwed, imho.

[Scootaloo]

73. I almost feel bad for spoiling the surprise

But I've been reading it for a little bit, and goddamn, couldn't contain it anymore.

[beam me up scottie]

74. Someone had to do it.

[m-lekktor]

86. I gave it a quick glance the other day when I saw a link in a sigline to it.

Don't feel bad!

[Prism]

102. Meh, these places exist

I decamped to other boards to bitch about DU in the past, with the anti-gay purge being the impetus.

But, I never flounced off to a place so I could post racism amongst friendlies.

So, that's all very special.

[lumberjack_jeff]

720. Exactly.

I'm often bemused at what it takes to get a bad reputation.

[Comrade Grumpy]

54. Oh, my! Lots of familiar names over there. And Bravenak posting Froma Harrop crap, too.

[Scootaloo]

57. Yeah. I really don't know what's up with that.

[TM99]

351. I am not surprised.

I put Bravenak on Ignore several months ago.

That site is disgusting. It is sick that they got Cali on another time out. The projection is sickening. This is one of the nastiest primaries I have seen and it has barely started.

[ismnotwasm]

62. ...

[Scootaloo]

66. Hi Ism! Have you determined if Nadin is "allowed" to be a person of color yet?

Who was that other person you were determining this with, in the "grumbles" section? Ilyah, I think? Did the two of you reach a conclusion or is it still an ongoing investigation?

[polly7]

106. I read that. Really disgusting. nt.

.

[ismnotwasm]

247. Hi Scoot!

Why don't you ask Nadin?

[Aerows]

326. Well, actually, I have

and she identifies as both a Latina and a Jew.

She's a nice person. Far nicer than people who try to make hay over her ethnicity.

[BeanMusical]

357. "she identifies as both a Latina and a Jew."

That putrid site seems to be a magnet for anti semites.

[Scootaloo]

336. I'm asking you n/t

[sabrina 1]

743. Was that on the Cave? Or the latest version of the Cave? Disgusting bigotry on display.

[BeanMusical]

359. What's so funny?

You really have no shame. First Nadine then this filth.

[sibelian]

648. Nothing, it's just brass neck.

Amoral people often start strutting and ruffling their feathers and giggling when they've been found out. They very often don't know what else to do.

[BeanMusical]

652. +1

[DonCoquixote]

72. wow

is this the Hillary Clinton only sandbox that was made to get more money?

[Scootaloo]

75. If you mean Skinner's Hillary site, that's HillaryMojo

And to its credit, it seems to solely boost Clinton and bash Republicans.

[Dragonfli]

390. That is true, Skinner appears to be simply providing honest support for a candidate

I don't believe he will ever get into the mudslinging business.

I can respect his support and I do understand that many people of more comfortable financial means than myself and my neighbors can support Hillary, down here however, the situation is quite critical, too critical for Republican lite policies to continue as many here are beginning the process of becoming newly homeless and most of the rest are barely hanging on with diets of rice and beans. People like us can no longer afford the fiscally conservative socially liberal hybrid politicians.

I get that the middle and upper middle class that this rot hasn't reached yet can still support such hybrids.

They just can't see what it is doing to the working poor and poor all around them. With many like Skinner, he is not blind to it willfully, just doesn't see it where he lives.

[Ed Suspicious]

82. Mahalo, huh? That's a terribly familiar salutation. Is it related to the person here who signs

their posts in an identical manner?

[Scootaloo]

84. Are you saying that "Chae" might be someone we know?

Oh hey! off-topic. Did you ever watch "The Tick" when you were a kid? That pilot episode is a hoot.

[artislife]

101. Nasty

But I am glad they have their place on the internet now to swim in the H pool.


Funny how they are still making the victims posts even over there, well...She is the candidate of the great unchange.

[TheFarS1de]

111. It's pretty weak ...

that they feel the need to callout a poster from another site and discuss them without giving them the right to reply . But obviously from this they are not worth discussing anything with .

This is just lower than a snakes asshole .

[artislife]

201. Name that movie!

[cui bono]

248. They post as if they really believe what they're saying.

Just like right wingers. They say shit all the time that you know they don't believe, but they say it with such conviction.

With HRC supporters it's that Bernie supporters are so mean etc... and they say all of that while attempting to swiftboat Bernie with false racism smears. Astounding.

And with right wingers it's the same thing, they accuse Dems of exactly what they themselves are guilty of.

[beam me up scottie]

281. It looks just like the Cave really. Angry people obsessed with DUers.

[Autumn]

299. OMG some of those posters are on MIRT

[840high]

316. And probably on juries.

[Decoy of Fenris]

320. Alerts are going out like mad targeting those criticizing the outside website.

I've served on several in the short amount of time I've been online.

These people are now targeting every and any DUer they think they can bring down.

[840high]

323. I thought so.

[Autumn]

368. They got cali.

[Gore1FL]

388. I looked at the transparency page.

They all seemed like questionable hides to me.

[BeanMusical]

360. Yikes, it sounds like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

[grasswire]

395. THAT IS DISGUSTING nt

[cui bono]

324. So much delusion in so few words...

astounding.

[Zorra]

810. Did someone say "cartoons"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6017420&mesg_id=6018254

[hifiguy]

10. Jebus. It really is time for some tombstones to get handed out

when garbage like this is posted time and again.

The desperation of Camp Weathervane is getting actually sickening.

[Warren DeMontague]

14. you probably wear skinny jeans and ride a unicycle, you hipster.

WHY CANT YOU SUPPORT THE CANDIDATE OF TEH SERIOUS PEOPLE™?

[merrily]

458. Ever see Emma Thompson dance in Primary Colors?

[Warren DeMontague]

470. Get out of my head

Like, now

[merrily]

474. In a few minutes.

[Warren DeMontague]

477. BUT I DONT SPEAK GERMAN

[merrily]

481. Nein?

[Warren DeMontague]

484. Frau Blucher.

Neighhh!

[beam me up scottie]

491. LOL!

Thanks for making me laugh, Warren. Not an easy thing to do today.

[merrily]

496. You win.

[cali]

16. Clinton supporters praising this and related shit show conclusively

that their so called concern about Bernie on racial issues is the worst kind of bullshit

[ibegurpard]

186. that was always apparent

[arcane1]

26. But calling out a troll for using a disguised c-word against Hillary will get one banned.

Something to think about when DU donation time comes: where is that money going?

[hifiguy]

35. Indeed.

I still miss NYC_SKP

[Ed Suspicious]

90. I think my star will probably need to disappear if this place remains as hostile as it is.

[merrily]

464. Then you'll see ads from which the site makes money.

[cui bono]

621. ...

Not if you use AdBlocker.

[DJ13]

59. "It really is time for some tombstones to get handed out"

Unfortunately I cant see that happening when DU's owner has already endorsed Hillary.

I thought that was a bad move, one that just empowered the worst kinds of Hillary supporters because they are assuming their actions will be protected.

[Zorra]

70. They have sickened me beyond my tolerance to even be in the same political party

as they are. I do not ever want to be associated with them in any way, in the same way I never want to be associated with republicans.

If Bernie is not nominated, the very next day I will be disavowing the Democratic party, and will become an Independent.

[Aerows]

342. I think in their own sick minds

they can push us to the breaking point with such things that we get banned for not taking the loyalty oath.

I think we can all take comfort in the fact that we aren't so fucked up here on DU that we have to make plans on a different website on how to get loyal DUers banned.

I don't discuss DU business anywhere other than on DU, because I don't have to.

Apparently, some have to because they know it will result in getting banned.

And BASTA! indeed.

I think we've all had enough.

[JRLeft]

25. Are PUMA'S back?

[hifiguy]

36. Like a belch from a bad onion.

[artislife]

103. OH MY! Laughing so hard

I swear, I can smell it over here!

[davidpdx]

839. That was a good one hifiguy

It reeks of humor.

[Scootaloo]

78. Did they ever leave?

Did you ever get that odd feeling that someone was almost like a caricature of enthusiasm for Obama? Like they were acting like what they think Obama's supporters are like?

[kenfrequed]

27. I will not 'like' this post

It is revolting but true that there is a subset here that will say anything to "win." It sickens me to my core but it is true.

Yes, there are supporters on Bernie's side that engage in a bit of hyperbole and get a bit over the top in their outrage. But the calculated kind of hasty generalizations and sickening attacks tend to come from another quarter.

[Ed Suspicious]

108. It's not a "like" here. It's a recommend, and I think this is some highly recommended reading.

[Doctor_J]

28. PUMAS. They object when I call them that, but it's the same racist group from 08

Then a year from now they'll tell us how we have to vote for her.

[kenfrequed]

39. Eh...

Most of the PUMA's were republican plants trying to stir shit up. But yeah, there were a very few of them trolling about that weren't magical pop-up posters.

[merrily]

480. I was posting then on a message board owned by a Hillary supporter who went full bore PUMA after

Hillary conceded. Would not even admit that when it became numerically impossible for her to win the primary. She even went gushy for Dimson.

Originally, the board had been for all political viewpoints. After she went PUMA, though, she started banning Obama supporters left and right, then all Democrats. Finally, she closed her board to viewers so no one could even read what she and the remaining wingers were saying.

Because of that experience, I never doubted the existence of actual PUMAs. I saw her morph from liberal to PUMA before my very eyes.

[kenfrequed]

492. Sorry to hear it.

I knew that there were some possible PUMA but I would still suggest that this person was probably more the exception than the rule.

But wow, is that one ever sad.

[merrily]

514. On what do you base the assumption that few PUMAs existed?

2008 Democration National Convention

[WillyT]

32. K & R !!!

[aidbo]

40. This video has been posted here before, but not everyone has seen it.

Froma was featured on the Daily Show once.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/slfmox/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-civil-disservice

[cali]

53. wow.

[Scootaloo]

152. Oh... Oh wow. Wooooooow.

I don't even know where to start.

[bvar22]

219. Stunning Hypocrisy.

The best part is that she lacks the self-awareness to see it,
or that the nation was laughing at her stupidity.

[AtomicKitten]

223. Wow!!!

[hifiguy]

227. Holy mother of crap.

[beam me up scottie]

233. I remember that but didn't know it was her. So she's a racist AND a hypocrite!

[Hiraeth]

237. that was hilarious, thanks

I loved it when JO walked around the chair and sat back down. Oh, my sister!

[cali]

47. do you mean the link to the op?

[morningfog]

52. Ah, I misunderstood. Ignore my other post.

[merrily]

490. Outrage? As in asking if anyone knows the background of the author?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=616923

[morningfog]

51. Why? Why can't you copy and use the link?

You can post in the thread???

[Autumn]

298. The operative words being

on DU. You know how that works

[Bluenorthwest]

77. Froma two ways.

On Duck Dynasty:
"Try as I might, I can’t hate “Duck Dynasty.” The show is not without wit, though one helping is all you need. A&E overreacted to Phil Robertson’s stupid and gross remarks on homosexuality, IMHO."

And on Obama's Iran deal, and do read the whole piece:
"It's profoundly worrying that Obama can shrug off the abundant evidence that the Iranian regime is in the grip of dangerous illusions about Jewish power and Jewish evil, and casually compare it to the kind of anti-Semitism found in modern-day Europe and America.

It's also morally offensive. The mullahs' anti-Semitism, along with their threats, should be enough to cause Obama, or any decent person, to recoil in disgust. Instead, he has made it the cause of his second term to reach a rapprochement with Iran. He has invited the regime to take the "path" he's offering to become "a very successful regional power."
http://www.creators.com/opinion/mona-charen/obama-not-offended-enough-by-anti-semitism.html

[cali]

105. holy shit.

So gay bashing is something we shouldn't "overreact" to. She is vile.

[NCTraveler]

282. Truly vile. Nt

[historylovr]

83. Wow, that's some grade-A racism right there.

Not as bold and spicy as how the Klan serves it up, but more subtle, so you have to know what you're tasting. And this is whose column Hillary supporters are holding up against Bernie? Is the desperation so high that they're using a racist--to slam Bernie as racist? Says a great deal to me, and none of it complimentary.

[hifiguy]

145. That deserves a genuine Pinkie Pie rimshot

Well played!

[sadoldgirl]

109. I was not here in 08,

but this looks even worse than that primary.

Racism and anti-semitism rolled in one!

Disgusting that people, who support this
kind of thing call themselves democrats.

[Ed Suspicious]

113. It looks similar to when republicans call out people for shit they themselves are doing. It's like

the republican male who is a drug war, family values, anti-gay champion while getting caught snorting lines of coke off of a gay, underaged hooker's belly while his wife stands supportively by during the apologetic non-apology.

[hifiguy]

149. OK, who did you swipe the Repuke script from?

[senz]

112. This is confusing -- why didn't you post a link to Harrop calling Bernie a racist???

Maybe I'm just blind, but I couldn't find it. So I don't know what you're talking about.

What really frustrates me is that everyone else seems to know what's going on except me.

[beam me up scottie]

117. Here, senz:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=616086

[senz]

144. Thanks, bmus. Wow -- what a cobbled-together jumble of anti_Bernie smear that is.

I'm surprised the Denver Post would accept such shoddy work.

And of course Hillary supporters would leap on it like flies on horse apples. A few days ago I tried to talk older-woman to older-woman with the OP poster but she wouldn't even reply to me. Am starting to think most Hillary supporters are lacking just about every trait that is admirable in a human being. No wonder they support her; she's on their level.

I appreciate your helping me out. Guess I'm just not up on everything that happens around here. Sigh.

[beam me up scottie]

146. Sometimes it's better to remain in the dark, senz.

I lost a lot of respect for DUers I thought I knew and that sucks.

[senz]

168. Nah, it's always better to know the truth

even when it hurts.

But -- when assessing people, we do need to keep in mind that anyone can have good days and bad days and sometimes people do change.

Alright enough of that.

[Eko]

118. Sanders is not a racist.

[blackspade]

119. What a pathetic shill.

[Eko]

129. It seems both sides are

calling each other racist. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251616614#post18 Not cool.

[beam me up scottie]

134. Hillary did run a racist campaign.

It's a matter of public record.

[Eko]

156. I'm unconvinced on that.

If she did then why would President Obama have her as Secretary of State? You are free to provide examples to me.

[beam me up scottie]

160. Here's a good one:

[Eko]

172. There is a big difference

between Geraldine Ferraro saying something mildly racist and then stepping down from the campaign because of it and Clinton running a racist campaign. If you could show that Clinton told her to say that then your point would be much stronger. Does this "Earlier in the campaign, Bill Shaheen, a Clinton campaign co-chairman in New Hampshire, stepped aside after making remarks about Obama's past drug use. The Clinton campaign also fired Iowa staffers who forwarded e-mails with false rumors that Obama is a Muslim. " sound like somebody running a racist campaign?
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4435376&page=1

[beam me up scottie]

174. Oh please, tell it to someone who wasn't here in 2008.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=334x5691

I'm not buying what you're selling so go find someone too stupid to know what they saw.

[Eko]

181. So I followed your link,

it evens blames a SNL skit on her. Wow.

[beam me up scottie]

189. That's all you saw, really? I guess I know enough about why you're here now.

But for others who are reading this exchange and know we're not making up shit about the Clintons in 2008:


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/04/468408/--UPDATE-w-campaign-response-Hillary-s-ad-debate-footage-doctored-to-make-Obama-blacker

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/opinion/11patterson.html?ex=1205899200&en=095cfdd6f358026f&ei=5070&emc=eta1&_r=0

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/28/AR2008012802336.html

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/03/axelrod-clinton-campaign-has-insidious-pattern-on-race-other-attacks-006919

[Eko]

193. No,

I never said that is all I saw, but I did see that.

[Eko]

213. I am here on this op

to say that Sanders is not racist and anyone who does so is wrong. You can insinuate what you want about me, I don't care.

[beam me up scottie]

215. You're the one defending Hillary's 2008 racist campaig, dude.

[Eko]

216. Just because you claim something

then use opinion articles, a video darkened like all campaign ones are, and a person who said something wrong then left the campaign for it, does not make it true at all. Sagan would not be proud.

[beam me up scottie]

217. Sure. Everyone is making it up, it's all in our heads. Never happened. Hard working WHITE Americans.

Carl Sagan was great at calling out bullshit so I think he'd be just fine with me doing the same to people who deny facts and ignore overwhelming evidence.

[Eko]

220. Yeah that comment was pretty racist.

Still disagree that she ran a racist campaign although that point is the best one you have come up with yet for making that case. I think your stance has more weight than before though.

[beam me up scottie]

222. I don't care what you think, I've been posting for others.

I gave up on you an hour ago.

[Eko]

229. Ok.

You have your opinion and are not open to others discussing it, I get it. Now you are just posting things about our discussion to further your viewpoint while not being open to anything I say. Sagan would most definitely not be proud. So, cheers buddy.

[beam me up scottie]

231. First, I'm not your "buddy".

Secondly DUers squirrel away links to use the next time someone tries to deny history.

I provide a public service.

[Eko]

234. Thought you didnt care what I said.

Cheers buddy.

[beam me up scottie]

235. I don't but as a girl I don't care to be referred to as "buddy".

But keep showing your true colours, I won't be the only one who remembers this exchange.

[Eko]

238. Well, I dont like people insinuating

things about me (post 189) but whatever. Here are my true colors, I apologize for offending you with the Buddy comment. You wont be the only one remembering this exchange, since there are two of us I can say two people will for sure just because we were both in it. So, Have a nice night and I actually mean that.
Cheers, (is that alright, can I say that?)

[beam me up scottie]

239. I'm sorry about that, I get frustrated when people dismiss evidence.

Like I said, I can't convince you so I won't try anymore.

Peace out, Eko.

[Eko]

240. No problem,

I do the same thing sometimes. Maybe we just have different standards of evidence? I will also apologize for the Sagan comments, glad that you like him, he is cool. Like I said you did move me more towards your point, so there is that. I'm not stubborn no matter what, lol.
Peace also.

[magical thyme]

435. and then there is this...

[sabrina 1]

756. African Americans objected to the 'dog whistles that came from Bill Clinton during that campaign. I

can link to the reaction if you like. There really isn't any doubt about it.

This time, they started again, playing the race card. It was not Sanders or his surrogates or supporters who started this nasty race-baiting, but we will respond to the lies, something they didn't expect to happen so forcefully. We've all learned that when Super Pacs and political operatives start smear campaigns, the worse thing that can be done is to ignore them.

That isn't going to happen in this campaign. They want to play dirty politics they can expect to be thoroughly exposed and if possible with enough investigative journalists paying attention this time, we can actually find out who is behind each one of them.

It's their choice, Sanders wants a campaign on the ISSUES and so do the American people.

But if they don't, if attempting to smear their opponents is what they want, then they better not whine when they face exposure.

Hillary can send her supporters a message, as O'Malley did when a Super Pac attacked Bernie on his behalf. He condemned and made it clear it was done without his permission.

Hillary hasn't done that, so whether or not she is actually involved isn't the issue. She KNOWS what her Super Pacs and supporters have been doing and she has remained silent about it.

I respect O'Malley for acting quickly to stop anyone engaging in smears on his behalf and since then there has been nothing more like that.

It's up to her to end it. If she doesn't she owns it. But the American people are sick to death of this nasty game of smearing opponents and distracting from the issues. And if they don't like people talking about, Brock eg, who thought he keep his ID secret, then it's simple, don't do it.

[senz]

209. The D.C. in-crowd chalked that up to "keep your friends close,

keep your enemies even closer."

It is highly likely that anyone as obsessed as she was would have worked single-mindedly from 2009-2012 to undermine everything he did and then launch a challenge to his re-election. Giving her a job like that would hopefully keep her too busy.

And...I never got the impression that those two ever liked each other. Ever.

[Eko]

212. Good point.

[merrily]

498. Please. His own campaign compiled a memo of the "racially-tinged" dog whistles. Google.

[hifiguy]

157. She was called out on it in '08 very publicly by Olbermann.

More than once.

It's not just DUers who noticed.

[beam me up scottie]

163. Great minds, I just posted a link for Eko.

[Eko]

183. I failed to see

where Olberman said she ran a racist campaign. Even the Obama campaign had blunders.

[hifiguy]

187. Speaking of HRH's "blunders" in '08

Check out this little doozie (not DUzy) for sheer brass-eared awfulness:

Contemptible beyond words.

[Art_from_Ark]

328. Holy crap!

[senz]

340. Olbermann's special comment brings back all the reasons

why, by the end of the 2008 campaign, I could not stand Hillary.

I don't see how anyone can support her.

[sabrina 1]

786. Wow! I missed that at the time.

So incredibly sad that this is what is happening to our party.

[senz]

159. Loved Hill's reply to "Is Obama a Muslim?"

[beam me up scottie]

166. No kidding, even McCain called it out.

Good find.

[virtualobserver]

179. "as far as I know"

it is embarrassing for me as a Democrat that McCain won the
"most decent" award between those two exchanges.

[Eko]

184. How many times did she say no

and you want to focus on the "as far as I know".

[virtualobserver]

196. she could never just say no...he kept asking...she kept adding a qualifier

[Eko]

195. I am amazed that here we are

on an op calling out someone for insinuating Sanders is a racist and people here are doing the same thing to Clinton.

[beam me up scottie]

198. I didn't call her a racist, I said she ran a racist campaign and she did.

You can live in denial if it suits you but that's a matter of record, hell it's even on Wikipedia.

[Eko]

204. I agree there is a big difference

between insinuating she is racist and saying she ran a racist campaign. I still disagree that you have shown that she did run a racist campaign, were there comments made by people on her campaign that could be called racist, sure. Did these people stay on the campaign after saying these things? No. Some left, some were fired.

[beam me up scottie]

208. I'M NOT THE ONE SAYING IT, IT'S A MATTER OF RECORD

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/04/468408/--UPDATE-w-campaign-response-Hillary-s-ad-debate-footage-doctored-to-make-Obama-blacker

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/opinion/11patterson.html?ex=1205899200&en=095cfdd6f358026f&ei=5070&emc=eta1&_r=0

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/28/AR2008012802336.html

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/03/axelrod-clinton-campaign-has-insidious-pattern-on-race-other-attacks-006919



Ignorance may be bliss but when it comes to racism I wish it was painful.

[Eko]

211. Wow, relax.

So a video was darker than others, that never happens in campaign videos.
The second one is an opinion page from the new york times, an opinion page.
The third one is also an opinion page.
The fourth one is about Ferraro, which Ive addressed as in she left the campaign over those remarks.
Sure, its a MATTER OF RECORD, pretty sure I can find things like that against any candidate and then claim IT'S A MATTER OF RECORD. Two opinion pages, a darkened video which happens in just about any campaign video and someone who made a mildly racist statement then left the campaign over it do not equal a racist campaign. Dont forget the SNL skit either.

[beam me up scottie]

214. HILLARY: 'hard working...WHITE AMERICANS..."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/09/1419917/-HILLARY-hard-working-WHITE-AMERICANS


Don't worry about me, I love watching people defend and dismiss racist smears on DU.

Proceed.

[beam me up scottie]

199. And HC supporters have done far more than "insinuate" Bernie is a racist here.

So spare me and save your outrage for the guilty parties.

[Eko]

207. And I said that was wrong.

[hootinholler]

131. A funny thing about the timing

Those threads about Bernie's race problem right before an announcement that Hillary will be meeting with some BLM people.

[Ichingcarpenter]

356. Also when polls come out showing Bernie rising..like this one

New Reuters National Poll: Hillary 38%, Bernie 32%, Biden 15%



http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TR131/type/smallest/filters/PARTY_ID_:1/dates/20150823-20150922/collapsed/false

[sabrina 1]

763. It happened at NRN. Soon as I saw that, I knew it was a 'campaign tactic'. Never doubted it, now am

even more certain. NRN used to be called Kos nation or something with his name in it, since he, supposedly, started it. IT was a Third Way construct designed to imitate Right Wing 'fellowships' etc, to 'reign in' dems/lefties. It was presented as so exciting that all those on the site at the time, could 'get to meet the front pagers, the 'girls' could buy a raffle ticket to win a lunch with one of the 'sexiest' front pagers. So exciting!

Politicians were invited, a Chocolate Fountain was the center piece of the big celebration provided by one of the Blue Dogs airc.

I wasn't there, wasn't interested, it seemed like a Corporate board meeting with the little people to let them what was expected of them, but they would have lots of fun etc etc

It didn't always work out the way they intended. The masses who attended were often rebellious with politicians, like Pelosi re prosecuting war criminals etc.

The name changed once they got it established using members of Daily Kos to do so. Then they renamed it.

Anything to do with kos means 'party operated' specifically Third Way.

Bernie was ambushed, lies were told about him, typical of that organization under kos. So the minute I saw it I knew it was intended. They've had some pretty nasty people at that site, pretending at first to be ordinary voters, later revealing they were political operatives, after they roped people in, then bashed, mostly the Left.

I'm not impressed with ambitious Sarah Palin fans from the far right but for political purposes anything goes it seems.

I wonder where they are now, last I saw they were bashing Simone Sanders.

[Hiraeth]

139. I am confused. Are you saying that someone posted this here? Do you have a link to the OP?

Thanks. I think cali has been locked out of this thread. Can someone please point me in the right direction, thanks.

[beam me up scottie]

142. Yes, it was posted twice, here is today's version:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=616086

[Hiraeth]

154. Thank you.

In the real world, where I live, most people still do not even know who is Bernie Sanders.

[beam me up scottie]

155. Yep. And I'm trying to change that one voter at a time.

So far so good.

[Hiraeth]

161. Yes, me too.

[arcane1]

167. That's EXACTLY why so much effort is devoted to smearing him as racist

they want that to be the FIRST thing people think of when they hear his name.

[Hiraeth]

173. well, things on DU are so much different from where I live. Honestly, the contrarains I know will

wear it as a badge of honor. The blacks I know and work with in real life are so very different from the PoC that post on here.

The Blacks I know do not like being called AA or PoC.

at. all. It pisses them off.

[stevenleser]

244. Apparently not. It's a misleading OP. If anything 'bad' is posted on the internet and attributable

to a Hillary supporter, I guess that's going to be posted here as something to get all worked up about regarding Hillary and her supporters.

[Hiraeth]

245. Yes, it is convoluted/badly worded but, kind of eye opening all the same. It took me all day

(on and off DU while doing real life stuff) to figure out what the heck was going on.

I did appreciate the link to the John Oliver interview. That gave me chuckle.

but, Yes the OP is misleading, I agree.

[beam me up scottie]

249. FACT: An op from a right wing racist was posted here by a HC supporter today.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=616086

Fox News style spin can't change the facts, steven.

[cui bono]

254. Not surprised by who posted it.

And that one goes around complaining about Bernie supporters being childish.

[beam me up scottie]

261. No kidding.

So many hypocrites in that camp.

[BeanMusical]

362. "Fox News style spin can't change the facts, steven. "

Roflmao!

[beam me up scottie]

414. What racism? I don't see it so it must not exist! What link? I don't see a link.

What is everyone complaining about?

STOP PICKING ON HILLARY'S SUPPORTERS?!!!

[BeanMusical]

417. Lol!

[stevenleser]

543. Sorry ignored(s), I can't read what you wrote

This kicked up to top of "My Posts" a couple of times with no responses after Hiraeth's. Looks like at least one of the folks on my ignore list posted responses.

Sorry whoever posted, I can't read what you wrote.

[fredamae]

140. This kinda crap's gonna bite HRC

NOT them in the arse down the road. Guaranteed.
Let them proceed. Things are very changed in this election cycle and what Used to work won't anymore.

[hifiguy]

169. Like a bear trap.

[L. Coyote]

162. Looks like this pot stirring has engendered lots of discussion and more jury duty.

I wish I was getting paid mileage.

[Fred Sanders]

164. Pitiful post...pity is now what I have. Supporting one candidate by smearing another works wonders

for the GOP most of all.

They continue to give thanks.

[djean111]

188. And that is exactly what the Hillary supporters are doing.

Your pity is irrelevant.

[frylock]

296. Classic example of the lack of self-awareness that's being discussed upthread.

Thanks.

[Scootaloo]

303. Isn't that what Froma Harrop was doing in 2008? And now in 2016?

[Aerows]

347. They are moving toward the "Oh Fuck, not again" moment

Last time it happened someone else caused it. This time, someone different is causing it, too.

They just can't get a handle on who it is that keeps causing the problems that crop up over and over again.

[hifiguy]

456. They live in houses without mirrors, apparently.

And with all the money TPTB have given her, you'd think HRH could afford to hire some people with brains, but it's clear she surrounds herself with nothing but butt-kissers, sycophants and acolytes who tell her only what she wants to hear.

[geek75]

191. All this infighting benefits Trump

It's unbelievable.

[merrily]

500. My, my, my. Welcome to DU.

[senz]

194. Maybe they're trying to be as dirty, filthy, represensible, and disgusting

as they possibly can in order to elicit responses from us that will get us hides and bannings.

They're certainly good at it; it must come naturally.

On the other hand, maybe this is just the way they are.

Wow -- when I think of how some of them pore over our threads looking for little phrases which they then post to show all the terrible things we say about their candidate .... honestly, the hypocrisy.

I hope what's-her-name loses worse than she ever thought possible. And all her supporters go into rehab.

And everyone lives happily ever after.

[tammywammy]

197. That's really despicable.

I have not picked a candidate. I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Sanders is a racist. That's ridiculous.

[HooptieWagon]

221. A PUMA for Hillary.

A smear job Swiftboat attack on Sanders. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

[ibegurpard]

228. Projection! it's the PUMA way!

[stevenleser]

242. Well, by August 2009, (if not sooner) she was defending Obama's policies

http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/there-are-death-panels-the-insurance-industry-runs-them/

There are death panels: The insurance industry runs them

“Death panels”? I’ll tell you about death panels. My husband faced one some years ago, and it didn’t involve any government bureaucrat. It was run by our private insurer, the sort of corporate entity that foes of health-care reform say will give you anything you want.

My husband was diagnosed with liver cancer. We were “insured” by United Healthcare. The deal was as follows: You had to use doctors on its list, but if you needed specialized care outside the network, United’s health-maintenance organization would pay for it. Fair enough.

.
.
.

By the way, a government-run program doesn’t tell you what treatments you may or may not have. It tells you what the taxpayers will subsidize. You are free to go out with your own money and buy whatever you want. We would have been prepared to do that. Instead, we got tied up in a private insurer’s web of tricks.

Believe me, “death panels” already exist, and they have nothing to do with the government.

[Scootaloo]

262. Well, that just makes her blatant racism all better, then

[stevenleser]

265. This post just kicked up to the top of my "My Posts" list, so someone on my ignore list responded.

Sorry, can't read the post.

[senz]

332. i just noticed your sig line.

So you are the nice man who was speaking on Fox and Friends? And your husband died of liver cancer? And you are a Hillary supporter?

Well, you speak well and seem likable. I'm very sorry for your loss, a very, very painful thing you both went through, and it is so hard to go on after a loss like that. My most long-time best friend was a wonderful gay man who died of a heart attack ten years ago, and I'll never stop missing him. The world is just not the same without him, and when I die I hope to connect with his sweet soul again, if that is possible. He was a devout Catholic, with certain reservations after coming out, but I know he would have been keenly interested in the news of the Pope's visit, and so I've been thinking of him all day.

But I can't understand why you're backing Hillary when she only became enlightened on LGBT issues fairly recently after it was politically acceptable to do so, while Bernie has always favored complete equality for LGBTs. She's a fair-weather friend who cares mainly -- or even solely -- for herself. Bernie has been in your corner from the get-go. He wouldn't sell you out for political advantage.

Or maybe you chose her because you think she's the only Democrat who can win? Or some other reason? It just seems puzzling...

[stevenleser]

366. Yes to the first part of your first sentence, no to the second part.

I am not LGBT but I am a strong LGBT ally.

[MrMickeysMom]

243. My head's swimming, you guys...

I can't keep up with work, volunteering (still haven't finished my donation to Sanders tonight, and that's after clean water action in Pennsylvania because our fucking General ASSembly votes to flush fracking water with acid mine drainage water.

I want to scream when I "catch up" to stuff like this.

I'm supposed to be reaching across to HRC people here, but honest to Peter Paul and Mary…

[RandySF]

259. I have to echo this OP

Calling Sanders a racist bears no resemblance to the truth.

[NCTraveler]

260. Now this is a dust up. Nt

[deathrind]

271. This type of crap...

Should not come as a surprise to anyone who has been paying attention to election tactics since Atwater wrote the book on smear campaigns.

It is only going to get worse.

[merrily]

501. I never saw a Democrat do it to another Democrat, though. Until 2008.

[AtomicKitten]

279. It's 2008 redux: Doubling down on the ugly.

[Fawke Em]

283. The evil person in every movie and TV show is now Muslim

or at least someone who looks or is Arabic.

I'm the mother of a 16 year old son with a Muslim Arabic name.

I came to my Mom's home to pick my kids up after work - because I'm lucky like that. My Mom picks my kids up from school and watches them during the summer - and moved my son over from my Mom's computer to type in the story about Ahmed Mohamed so he could see why his white Mamma worries so much.

I remember what Hillary said and did.

[McCamy Taylor]

308. Is "racist piece of shit" what passes for polite discourse now? I ask because I have

been asked to serves on juries in which people complained that they were being unfairly attacked by people using words a lot less extreme than these. I am guessing that this person you are talking about does not post on DU and that makes it OK.


I do not alert, btw. Grown ups settle their own differences.

[Aerows]

317. When a white person calls President Obama

Then Senator Obama the "appealing only because he is an 'exotic' candidate" yes, I think it is fair to call them a racist. Maybe not a piece of shit, because that isn't polite, but racist?

"appealing because he is 'exotic' " and not because he was an accomplished scholar, lawyer and Senator, but strictly because he was 'exotic'?

Uh, yeah. That's racist bullshit.

[Aerows]

333. "Bernie Sanders supporters are racists"

In reflection of seeing the people that made such posts on another site looks like a PROJECTION.

PROJECTION. PROJECTION.

God, no wonder they fought so hard to push that meme, even as recent as today.

Note: If you wonder why you have absolutely no credibility or traction when you call Bernie Sanders or his supporters obnoxious racists, it's because your posse exposed themselves to be both. When you warp reality with so much deceit that you cast the person defending the oppressed as the oppressor, and the tellers of truth to be liars, you are not doing your candidate any favors.

You sure as hell aren't doing Democracy any favors.

Furthermore, you are certainly NOT doing our site, Democratic Underground any favors.

I'm ashamed of the lot of you that participated in antisemitic rants, cooked up ways to cast people as racists, and generally said some of the most vile things about people on this board imaginable, while pretending to be our friends.

No wonder you have to go hide on another message board; your shit wouldn't be tolerated here, and you know it.

[Scootaloo]

337. +1

[BeanMusical]

364. +2

[Puglover]

396. +3

[arcane1]

398. "while pretending to be our friends"

[840high]

402. +100

[jfern]

349. Looks like they alert stalked the OP until they got a timeout for her

Of course she's a Bernie supporter, so the victim card won't be played for the next year.

[Live and Learn]

355. Yep. I view Cali as a DU martyr. She says what needs to be said

knowing they are stalking her. Thank you Cali for your much needed, informational posts.

[leftofcool]

369. OMG! That is the funniest thing I have ever read on DU............."DU Martyr"

[Puglover]

382. You must have busted a gut

over the OP about a member on vacation with 5 hides that featured a picture of Christ on the cross.

Right?

[Autumn]

389. This one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118725529

[Capt. Obvious]

392. Oh dear lord!

Just a bit over the top.

[m-lekktor]

413. ROFL!!!

that is batshit

[arcane1]

421. You know someone is taking DU too seriously when the cross comes out.

[beam me up scottie]

475. JESUS CHRIST!

Get off the cross, someone needs the wood!

[Autumn]

516. JESUS CHRIST!

On a trailer hitch.

[beam me up scottie]

532. This guy?

[Autumn]

536. That's the guy. I miss him

[Scootaloo]

538. I have seen some stupid shit on DU. Like, some magnificently STOOPID shit

I think that one... That one's going in a fucking folder.

[Autumn]

540. Yeah, it's in my fucking folder

[Bonobo]

561. In 12 years plus on DU, I have NEVER seen a more ridiculous and unintentionally hilarious post.

Yup, folder material for sure.

[cui bono]

643. OMG... and how many fucking OPs about him did we need?

AND... he was the PoC calling other PoC "outliers" just because they didn't agree with him.

[Autumn]

387. Should we say she was silenced? You don't have a problem with that do you?

[stevenleser]

554. What is particularly funny is that since on average 6 of 7 jurors is a Bernie supporter

at least three folks who voted to hide Cali's post were probably Bernie supporters.

[Babel_17]

567. I thought it was a given that the jury pool could be stacked

If a determined group with an agenda goes out of their way to synchronize their presence, and then one of them posts an alert, they will be disproportionately represented on the jury vs. how they would have been at another time. This dovetails into the concern over this other site.

And yes, that can work two ways. Any person can have that happen to them.

[stevenleser]

570. With 85% of DUers being Bernie supporters, & random jury selection, it would be hard to do that

to go after Sanders supporters.

[Babel_17]

572. Yes, it would be hard to be successful

But I think many make the effort. Just my impression. And it could work both ways. It would take less organizing, maybe even merely knowing the "best" times, to know when to alert on a Sanders detractor.

And this relates to there sometimes being chains of alerts. It's as if some hope to "win the lottery" and hit just the right selection of jurors.

[davidpdx]

886. So it was a conspiracy?

Glad to know that. Especially from someone who likes to grave dance.

[sibelian]

673. She' considerably more deserving of the term than 1Strongblackman or bravenak

or trumad or Bain or any of the rest of the rabble that can't keep a civil tongue in their head, that's for sure.

[beam me up scottie]

419. Of course they did, she calls out bullshit when she sees it and that makes her a target.

The recs on this OP alone tell you all you need to know about how right she is when it comes to the disgusting double standard when it comes to racism on DU.

Hurry back cali, you will be missed.

We'll carry on and not let the liars continue to smear the good Senator with impunity.

[Le Taz Hot]

513. Son of a . . .

again? These hides are absolute BULLSHIT! Oh, I think we owe it to cali to keep this thread kicked for a LOOOONG time.

[bbgrunt]

358. big k and r. This whole thread has been very illuminating, but not surprising

there certainly has been a rotten smell around here for some time.

[RiverLover]

361. So, what'd I miss?

Just joking around to cover my shock at all this. And my disappointment cali will not be posting again for a while.

Thanks for illuminating, cali. Your light & insight will be sorely missed.

[BeanMusical]

365. Thank you Cali!

You're great and the nasty cowards who have stalked alerted you don't deserve to lick your boots. Can't wait for you to be back.

[polly7]

367. It they can't disprove what she brings here or it hits too close to home ...... get rid of her.

Alert, alert, alert ........ someone's got some calluses. I feel bad for her because it never fails. Sad to see her gone, too.

[NCTraveler]

373. Sanders supporters on this very site have argued reverse racism against POC they don't like.

Not links, their true thoughts. Neither side has a monopoly on this issue nor should either side be lecturing on this issue.

[merrily]

508. Reverse racism is the wrong term. Racism is racism.

[rey-siz-uh m]

Examples
Word Origin

noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

[marym625]

380. no one should be surprised about this. pretty obvious.

It's been obvious, since the NRN in Arizona, from whence this tactic against Senator Sanders came.

I have always applauded Black Lives Matter, and I always will. I have always stated my full agreement that both Senator Sanders and Governor O'Malley really screwed up at the NRN in Arizona. However, the fact that NRN is funded and run by third way supporters has never been a question or in dispute. Anyone that ignores that fact is just making excuses for unfounded attacks that continue through today.

The constant belittling of Sanders supporters is a tactic used because attacking Sanders himself would backfire. It's a tactic that hasn't worked. So now they're going after the only candidate that is truly for the disenfranchised, the marginalized, the minorities, the unions and the 99%. While I have seen some less than bright, hell, some stupid responses from Sanders supporters regarding why people of color should vote for him, I have seen many, many more comments and replies from supporters of third way candidates about both Sanders and his supporters. All the while, third way candidate supporters completely ignoring facts that their candidate, just 7 short years ago, said some incredibly racist things. Ignoring completely that just last month, Hillary Clinton responded to a small Black Lives Matter contingent with, well, I'll just say a very dismissive attitude.

What has struck me as hypocritical, that no one seems to mention, is that many of the same people that are accusing Sanders and his supporters of being racist, and even more so, absolutely negating decades of Sanders work for equality, by saying things like, "so what if he marched with Dr. King; so what if he organized and was arrested for his work for integration, it is and was what he should have done and there was no risk for him" (as if breaking the law because he stood up for what he knows was right, wasn't a risk and, being arrested for it, means nothing) are the same people who dissed and bitched about Patricia Arquette's call for people of color and the LGBT community to stand with women. How is it a duty to stand up for what is right for one marginalized group but not for another?

By the way, I agree that it was what he should have done, it is what every single person should do and for all marginalized people. But negating people standing up for what is right is despicable. People have died doing something they may have been morally required to do but not legally. It's shameful and just so very sad to hear people dismissing things like that. You don't want to applaud it, fine, don't. But to say it means nothing is reprehensible.

We'll see more and more of this bullshit as more and more people support Senator Sanders, the only candidate that is truly for the disenfranchised, the marginalized, the minorities, the unions and the 99%. But it won't work. Senator Sanders is the only choice if we want to end the oligarchy, police state, we now live in.

[Babel_17]

385. Roller coaster of a thread

I knew it would be adrenaline producing from the title. Then there's the twist and turns of the revelations of what is being posted by who at another site, and then another jolt as that site gets hidden from view (for non-members).

Just when you think the ride is nearly over, one last descent, the steepest of all, as we discover cali received a time-out derived from having five posts hidden by jury decision.

Well, the rules are the rules, it's an opportunity to apply time elsewhere and hopefully we'll see cali back here as soon as the time-out expires. Looking forward to that day.

P.S. I'm searching the TOS, etc, but I'm not finding the time-out period mentioned. (Plus the need to update the info on how many members serve on a jury) I'd appreciate someone in the know posting that info. Thanks in advance!

[Scootaloo]

539. Your hidden posts remain "on record" for 90 days after they get hidden

Your posting privileges are suspended so long as you have five hides on your "record." When the oldest one is cleared, your privileges are reinstated.

[Babel_17]

566. Thanks for that info

So if one's five hidden posts were spread out over several months, the time-out won't be very long. If the hidden posts all happened during, say, a rancorous week. then one will be on vacation for close to twelve weeks.

[Nitram]

397. This thread starts with outrage about attempts to paint Bernie as racist to make him less electable.

But at some point in the discussion, a Bernista begins painting Clinton as Nixonian. Ironic, no?

[Babel_17]

403. Well, it's partly about using what is seen as an inexcusably bad source

And in an OP.

If a horrible source is used in an attempt to diminish Secretary Clinton then, by all means, call attention to that.

[senz]

404. No. Clinton bears certain resemblances to Nixon. Bernie is not racist, period.

Categorical error in your comment. Nixon was a person, "racist" is an attribute. Nixon had many attributes, some okay, many bad. Some of his less admirable traits were secrecy, enemies lists, distaste for democracy -- all of which, it can be argued, belong also to Hillary. I believe the commenter found other resemblances, and it should be noted that this commenter has read several books on Nixon.

So, no, there is no irony. It's not just a matter of "saying bad things" about a candidate. There is a truth factor to consider.

[Nitram]

410. Nice double standard you have there.

Regarding "the truth factor to consider", I'd say you have an enormous blind spot when it comes to Clinton. Perhaps most obviously, the statement that Clinton has a "distaste for democracy" is patently false. I get the feeling your fallacy is believing what you think is true while what other people say is false if it contradicts your belief.

[Romulox]

416. You think you've got us in a technicality where Clinton's dog-whistle campaign can't be called out?

Good luck with that.

[Nitram]

575. You are the one using technicalities to rationalize away a smear of Clinton.

On a discussion of an article about Sanders. You rhetoric is getting really ugly.

[merrily]

510. No.

[senz]

405. Cali, I am so sorry they got you. Thank you for all you do for Bernie. Hope you will be back soon

because you're a good person and we need you.

[HooptieWagon]

436. +1000

[magical thyme]

443. oh craps. just saw this.

Cali, we'll still be here when you get back!

[Catherina]

444. +1000 n/t

[Skwmom]

446. I don't think she supports Bernie...

[beam me up scottie]

482. What is wrong with you?

cali has ALWAYS supported Bernie, he's her Senator.

You've got some nerve, you're basically calling her a liar since she told you she supported him.

[hifiguy]

460. +1

Come back ASAP, cali, you are needed here.

[Android3.14]

454. Results of your Jury Service

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:38 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

so we have a racist piece of shit being posted because she calls Bernie a racist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251616648

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Ain't we got fun

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:48 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ain't we got fun alerting after over 400 replies...
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The Op is a bit obnoxious, but nothing out of the ordinary. Even the person who alerted only wrote "Ain't we got fun," which was less than helpful in determining the reason for alerting. It appears to be a frivolous alert.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: And that's the best the alerter can do? It's not enough for me, and besides, I think the post is just fine. Leave it alone.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the

[Android3.14]

455. results

I was juror no. 3

[arcane1]

463. What a stupid alert. And couldn't even articulate a reason to hide it.

Thin skins.

[m-lekktor]

530. if the "A" in "ain't" was lowercase instead of uppercase

I would have an idea who to suspect of sending it ! lol

[beam me up scottie]

533. Me too!

Get out of my head!

[m-lekktor]

535. LOL

sorry! I have that same bad habit of all lowercase that I have been trying my damndest to break so I notice it in others. It's lazyness imo. Anyway the wording of that alert sounds exactly like something that person would say. makes you go what in fuck was that?!?!

[beam me up scottie]

473. Still alert stalking the op, that's the third alert in this thread - that we know of.

And Bernie's supporters are the ones trying to "silence" DUers?


I guess those 159 recs are making someone feel the Bern.

[jfern]

478. Yeah, I never saw any evidence of anyone being alert stalked

until this thread, where it's Cali, a Bernie supporter being alert stalked. Pretty obvious she hit a nerve in this thread so they're going after all her posts.

[beam me up scottie]

479. They went after me too, 2 alerts in 24 hours, both 7-0 to leave.

Two people had to go sit in the corner.

Unfortunately the jury that hid cali's post wasn't as fair.

[arcane1]

483. With 159 rec's, one would think the community has already spoken

[beam me up scottie]

485. They have, and her other threads are on the greatest too.

cali is an asset to DU, she's here to fight for what she believes in.

Instead of debating her opponents want to silence her voice.

Pathetic double standard.

[arcane1]

486. Indeed, I wouldn't know the background of the author of that nonsense article..

Had it not been for this OP!

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, but the recipients of the sunlight tend to hate it

[beam me up scottie]

489. It's funny you should mention sunlight...

since a DUer just got a hide in this thread for calling other DUers "cockroaches" while bragging about their website which is now known for its anti-Semitism.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=618263

[arcane1]

495. Yeah I saw that

Hence I made sure not to disparage the sunlight recipients

[beam me up scottie]

506. :D

Vermin have feelings too.

[BeanMusical]

487. What an assholish and pathetic alert.

[Cali_Democrat]

505. LOL. nt

[BeanMusical]

651. You find that funny?

Pathetic. And you're no better than they are for approving of this.

[polly7]

569. See ...... capitalization isn't all that hard.

What a stupid alert.

[m-lekktor]

573. lol

yup.

[polly7]

577. Which reminds me ....... anyone seen SouthernProgressive around lately?

[MoveIt]

518. K&R

for pissing off all the right-wing squatters in our midst.

[Ghost Dog]

541. .

[BeanMusical]

559. +1

[Bonobo]

562. I already miss my friend and sister, Cali.

Forgive them for they knoweth not what they have doneth.



A voice in the wilderness has been silenced and we are all the poorer for it.

Much love.

[MannyGoldstein]

563. .

[polly7]

568. FFS Bonobo

I just took my first sip of coffee!





But I do miss Cali.

[marym625]

794. pray for her resurrection!

[davidpdx]

840. OMG Bonobo

You have outdone yourself. That was a twofer.

[Bonobo]

841. I don't deserve the credit.

The real credit belongs to a certain sanctimonious and unintentionally hilarious Democrat Since Birth.

[davidpdx]

844. Well you mad me laugh regardless so I give you props for that.

[Le Taz Hot]

564. Kicking this thread until cali

is no longer on time out.

[Bonobo]

565. We all need to make Cali gagged and silenced avatars! nt

[m-lekktor]

571. I was thinking that last night! nt

[Scootaloo]

574. I refuse to change my avatar. But I have plenty of sig line space left!

[beam me up scottie]

583. Kicking for cali

[jfern]

606. It's going to be a while

I think November 13.

[sibelian]

650. We'll just have to take up the slack...

...

[HassleCat]

576. She lost her mind

I don't know much about Harrop, but she is way more than "in the tank" for Clinton. She is ga-ga, bonkers, insane for Clinton. Which is OK, except it causes her to write some pretty extreme things. She may not be helping. Some of what she writes could be used against Clinton to imply racial disharmony between Clinton and Obama. Harrop obviously resents Obama for taking advantage of his skin color in the campaign, and her loquacious support of Clinton may link her remarks to the candidate. Just as Bernie Sanders is having to answer for his supporters on Twitter, Hillary Clinton may have to explain Froma Harrop.

[SwampG8r]

579. Kick

[beam me up scottie]

584. Proof cali was being alert stalked:

[m-lekktor]

585. well I am glad to read she will be back in 9 days though!

They even go to her profile and figure out her exact return!! I just assumed she would be gone for awhile. I look forward to here return and I didnt even bother to calculate that from her hide dates! lol

[beam me up scottie]

586. She won't be back til November. That was the LAST time the alert stalked her.

They got her again this week.

Every Bernie supporter should watch their back.

[m-lekktor]

587. oh fuck.

November is to far away. anyway I don't care if i get timed out. I never start threads, i am lower profile and only post sporadically.

[beam me up scottie]

588. You're a nice person too, so that helps. :)

[m-lekktor]

589. ha. thanks!!

i try to restrain myself, doesn't always work though.

[BeanMusical]

657. "well I am glad to read she will be back in 9 days though!"

The idiot can't count higher than 10 so 90 is an impossible to grasp number for him.

[m-lekktor]

667. lol

[arcane1]

592. At least two of them are on MIRT too

Granted, MIRT can't do anything to long-time posters, but it's still creepy.

[beam me up scottie]

593. It's the hypocrisy too.

For months we've been hearing how Bernie's supporters alert stalked and drove HC supporters off DU and here they are doing the same fucking thing.

[arcane1]

595. Agreed. What a week! n/t

[cui bono]

608. Pure right wing tactic.

Claim their 'opponents' (I thought we were on the same general side though...) are doing what they themselves are doing. We see right wingers do that all the time. It's second nature. And that's exactly what that gang of bullies is doing with many different attacks: supporters are mean... alert stalking... hate... blah blah blah... Whatever their attack is, that's exactly what they are doing themselves.

[polly7]

649. I believe five are on MIRT ........... so far. nt.

[MoveIt]

738. wow

i guess DU needs a MIRT for MIRT.

[senz]

594. Wow. George II was "hoping to prod her into her fifth hide."

If I said what I'm thinking, I'd get a hide for sure.

What a nasty site that must be. Explains why it's populated by so many grudge-filled, unhappy people.

[beam me up scottie]

596. They just alerted on another of my posts, 7-0 to leave.

cali isn't the only one they want to shut up.

When they stop vilifying Bernie's supporters I will stop posting screenshots from that site.

[senz]

597. Okay little green kitty warrior with Cthulhu tentacles ...

you, of all people, must be very, very careful. You spar relentlessly, you keep score, you know where the bodies are hidden, and you pay close attention to everything. Of course you make them squirm. Of course they'd like to get you. You cannot afford to give vent to perfectly justified feelings about them. You must reread everything before pressing Post.

I know you're smart and quick and adroit, bmus, but please be careful.

[beam me up scottie]

598. Thanks, senz, but I'll be fine.

I've been at this a long time and I've got a few hides to spare. If I have to take them for the team, so be it.

[hifiguy]

599. bmus floats like a butterfly

and stings like a bee.

[BeanMusical]

659. I couldn't agree more.

[jfern]

604. But Hillary supporters are all perfect angels while Bernie supporters are all big meanies

[BeanMusical]

647. Filthy nest of cowardly vipers.

And William769 (AKA Bill) says that he's really proud of this sewer.

241. Classy site you've got there, Bill.

You must be very proud.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=617905

Star Member William769

246. Thank you and yes I am.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=617956

Jury: William769 admitted that he's the site admin.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=617171

[beam me up scottie]

665. Good catch. He did admit to being the site administrator.

[LiberalArkie]

681. Results I Voted as usual to Leave it alone

On Sat Sep 26, 2015, 05:49 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Filthy nest of cowardly vipers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=623545

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

What a thoroughly disgusting post, talking about a DU'er who isn't even in the conversation. Nasty to the core.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Sep 26, 2015, 06:17 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Too pissed to make a comment < ME :>
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hmm. The site in question has posts calling Sanders supporters "a bunch of ignorant white trailer trash idiots" and says "DU is a "perfect example" of what a BS Cult looks like." These comments aren't outliers; no one objects to them and many at that site support them. Members of that site were also planning how they would get certain DU members on a time out (and celebrating when they succeeded).

When this was pointed out, the response wasn't to tell people to stop posting that kind of stuff, but rather to their "Grumbles" forum - their most popular forum - from non-members (now it seems it doesn't even show up on the forum index like it did previously). If people want to recreate the Conservative Cave's Dumpster (IE, a bash DU forum), they can, but they shouldn't try to hide posts on DU calling them out for it.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[jfern]

714. Yes, they mentioned you there

You are definitely a target of alert stalking.

[nilesobek]

860. Thanks for the screen shots.

Now I have a better idea of what's going on around here.

I don't want to ignore anyone but it really helps when deciding who to put on that list of people a poster wouldn't want on their jury. Again, thanks.

I decided to come out for Bernie after hearing him on Charlie Rose where he just killed it. Rose can be a very annoying interviewer. He was badgering Sanders, interrupting and talking over him but still Bernie stayed on point and made Rose look like a yellow journalist.

[HooptieWagon]

615. Which means he was counting her previous ones.

Hides don't show up on transparency page until 5. Although he's on MIRT, so maybe he's able to see. It sounds like they volunteered for MIRT just to hit rid of Sanders supporters.

[senz]

642. Sure sounds like stalking.

Underhanded and malicious, too.

Gee what nice people!

[Capt. Obvious]

701. everyone has access to the amount of hidden posts in the last 90 days

You have 3 hidden posts for example.

[HooptieWagon]

601. And it appears a member of MIRT....

...is bragging about alert stalking cali. My oh my.

[sibelian]

646. Well, that's that, then.

The site we're currently posting on no longer as any credibility as a fairly managed discussion forum.

That's RimJob level behaviour.

Actually, no, it's slightly BELOW RimJob, he would have just finished the job and "zotted" the offender.

[BeanMusical]

656. Yes, the admins are very quiet about this.

Silence implies consent I guess.

[LiberalArkie]

682. Everyone should have known what going to happen the moment the admins

announced that they supported HRC. All this is to be expected.

[Bonobo]

661. We can assume they have our IP address information and are using it over there.

I suggest everyone be aware that your personal information now may up for grabs to some extent.

[Behind the Aegis]

663. Incorrect assumption.

MIRT does not have access to IP addresses, personal information, or email information. Skinner has even said all personal information for DU is kept on a different server to protect our personal information. Also, MIRT is almost exclusively concerned with new members only. It is rare a long-term member comes to our attention (it takes a 7-0 hide...since I have been on for this session, only three have appeared and all three were labeled "NMI" (Not (a) Malicious Intruder))., and even then the decision to ban that person is almost always turned over to the admins.

[BeanMusical]

666. He's talking about that filthy site having visitors' IP addresses and using them to track people.

(yes I'm aware that MIRT doesn't have access to member IPs so that part is wrong)

I ran a couple of small boards over the years and Gests IPs are logged even on cheap ones and can be accessed by admin(s). But good luck linking those IPs with a name on the web or here. They can always run a Whois but will only see an ISP in the results. However they are such amateurs that they wouldn't know how to find their own IPs anyway.

[lumberjack_jeff]

723. Then it has improved since I was on.

The host and admin of the HCS site himself used the MIRT forum to rally support to ban me over one 4:3 hide, not knowing I could read every word he was saying.

Many of the clique involved at the HCS site have been ringleaders of pogrom, including misusing their authority for years here.

Every resource at their disposal as members of MIRT is now being brought to bear - count on it.

[polly7]

731. +1,000,000!

Last edited Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:47 AM - Edit history (2)

I was on a short while and decided it wasn't my thing, when a member who'd created a sock to get around a time-out was allowed back in, and during the same time I was on it - definitely was trying her hardest to get a long-term member banned. AA. FACT. I quit after arguing with her over it.

I was also targeted there and tried desperately to be kicked off by someone who now runs his own site. When that failed, he started a thread in HOF for sympathy with all sorts of made-up bullcrap but was exposed, eventually. FACT.

They're still at it ....... only operating from their MIRT satellite site now.

[nilesobek]

861. George II should be removed from MIRT for bias.

Immediately, before he can do more harm to DUers.

[jfern]

603. It's clear as day that she was alert stalked until she was silenced for supporting Bernie

[beam me up scottie]

607. And I'm not saying that others don't abuse the jury system.

I know they do but Jesus the hypocrisy coming from that camp is just ...

[cui bono]

609. Yeah, they really hate cali... here's a screenshot I got:

The thread was about making GD a free for all zone, no hides... and they think WE are the ones who would start using all the slurs and name calling. Well we've seen who's doing that on their own little haterville.



[IMG][/IMG]

(note the hashtag in Ism's sig)

[Bonobo]

611. Ismnotwasm: "I'd love to turn Bonobo or cali into the quivering little chickenshits they are."

Bravo.

She's got a lot of class.

I'm glad to see my opinion of her was not off-base in the least.

[cui bono]

613. Well, at least she admitted that she isn't qualified to "call you out properly".

[MoveIt]

619. they are so tough over there!

Internet tough gals for Hillary! #nochickenshits

[neverforget]

622. What a bunch of chickenshits. They can't stand the heat of DU so they leave and create their own

website where they complain about DU. If they hate DU so fucking much, why don't they just leave? I think they just want to hear nothing but non-stop praise for Hillary and can't stand that not everyone agrees with them.

[polly7]

632. I was sure of mine from day one.

So pathetic it's almost funny, until you realize these are grown adults threatening people through a monitor.

[sibelian]

645. She's done nothing but post "Yawn" for months.

In thread after thread. She's like a teenager.

Actually, most of them are like teenagers. The same gossipy cliqueishness, the same bad manners, the same unselfconscious obsession with how people look instead of what they are, the same disinterest in anything that doesn't have any direct bearing on their own immediate gratification, the same inability to accept the consequences of their own silly rudeness, the same mangled labelling of things as "other" and "not other", the same tribalism, the same dribbly, weather-driven clouds of emo-spam passing for political analysis...

[BeanMusical]

654. Totally agree.

Although I would say very young teenagers, like 12-13 years old.

[senz]

672. +1000

Excellent analysis/summary, sibelian.

[Bonobo]

691. The same sense of justification too.

Absolutely inescapably egomaniacs.

[BeanMusical]

655. "Ismnotwasm: I'd love to turn Bonobo or cali into the quivering little chickenshits they are."

Chickenshits? Irony is not dead.

[darkangel218]

668. Nope. You were actually quite correct.

It still shocked me to read that, though.

[pacalo]

688. That would've probably gotten a 0-7 hide on DU.

When contempt runs that deep, it's time for a break from the internets.

[Bonobo]

689. Contempt? It's absolute HATE. Beyond human level hate...

It's the kind of thing that in all honesty, I think requires some kind of therapy because there is no way that kind of mental attitude doesn't bleed into other realms of her life. Work, family, treatment of pets... Who knows.

I mean what does she even mean>? That she wants to hurt me and Cali or scare us, revealing us as cowards?

It's just crazy and, if she knew who I was, I would even suggest dangerous.

[lumberjack_jeff]

722. It does my heart good to see that cast of characters exposed for whom they are. n/t

[HooptieWagon]

612. LOL!!!

Them calling DUers "unstable". A goddam psychology major would have enough material to write a thesis by reading that cesspool for an hour. Thems some seriously disturbed and unhinged folks....lots of bile and hatred, like rightwingers.

[cui bono]

614. Yep. Projection. A favorite tactic of right wingers.

Everything they've ever claimed Bernie/his supporters do/are, is exactly what they are doing over in Haterville.

[hifiguy]

677. The mutually reinforcing paranoia, projection and delusion over there

would be excellent meat for a master's thesis.

I half-jokingly mentioned Jim Jones upthread. The more I see from over there the less of a joke and more germane that reference becomes.

[HooptieWagon]

678. Spot on!

It's the same psych profile that can be seen in the RW Militia types.

[darkangel218]

616. Omg.. Wtf??!?

Wow...

[Scootaloo]

627. It's awfully revealing, innit?

[hifiguy]

676. They should be tombstoned from DU

NOW for that kind of Nixonesque bullshit.

[cui bono]

684. Especially since GeorgeII is the one who is proudly alert stalking and is on MIRT.

How is that okay?

We have a Malicious Intruder serving on the Malicious Intruder Removal Team.

[hifiguy]

685. Skinner needs to clean house regarding MIRT.

[reddread]

868. thats just ridiculous

[Autumn]

788. .

[LWolf]

897. That's a lot of hate.

[polly7]

631. Impartial and fair ........ especially the one who used MIRT to try to get me banned.

Yes, they've been after cali for a long, long time.

What a bunch of horseshit!!!

[BeanMusical]

644. What a pathetic bunch of nasty cowards.

Why are they allowed to do the same damn thing as the cavers but with their DU names known and not be banned? Disgusting.

[Le Taz Hot]

600. Kicking because it's been a half a day or so.

[MoveIt]

605. Kick

alert-stalking-organizing sites make DU suck.

[darkangel218]

617. K&R!

[sabrina 1]

618. Wow! Who needs the far right when we have people like this in our own party!!

[HooptieWagon]

679. Classic Trojan Horse.

While the Dems were busy fighting the Repubs, the Corporatists snuck in disguising themselves by claiming to be 'progressives', and took over. But they serve the same masters as the Republicans. Time to remove the cancer.

[sabrina 1]

680. Yes, we knew something didn't make sense and it took a while to figure it all out, after all honest

people don't think like these deceivers, but I am so glad we know what the problem was/is because until we did we could not deal with it.

Things are changing rapidly. And they are reacting as expected, desperate but exposing themselves. That's what we need.

[SwampG8r]

625. I pledge to kick

This up once a day at minimum until Cali is back
Skinner take the garbage out in mirt please?

[davidpdx]

633. Apparently this same person bashed Obama in 08

I've seen bitching and complaining by Clinton supporters about others using right-wing talking points, yet this person clearly is someone who hated Obama and feels the same about Sanders. Yet Campweather Vain can't see the hypocrisy.

[sibelian]

634. 20,241 views...

Was it really worth hiding cali, boys and girls?

[Scootaloo]

653. They remind me of the squirrel-thing from the Ice Age movies

Poor Scrat has a single-minded drive to get that one damn acorn, no matter how badly he gets mangled, the damage he causes to the landscape, or the fact he never actually gets the satisfaction.

[BeanMusical]

664. Well since they got a collective orgasm out of it I guess that in their mind(s?) it was.

Sociopaths are like that.

[TM99]

658. Kicking this thread because

this racist POS Froma Harrup needs to be exposed for the Clinton hack that she is!

Come back soon Cali!

[sibelian]

670. Kick kick kickety kick...

la la laaaaa...

[MoveIt]

671. morning kick

because those nasty fucks are now gloating here about their shitty hate site.

[senz]

674. Kicking for cali

[sabrina 1]

675. Froma Harrumph doesn't belong in this party, let alone as an advocate for any Democratic candidate

for any office.

[Le Taz Hot]

686. Is this sinking again?

[Bonobo]

690. Free Cali!!! nt

[SwampG8r]

687. Kick

[Le Taz Hot]

692. kick

[jfern]

693. Kick

These cowards silenced Cali. We must keep the thread alive.

[SwampG8r]

694. Kicked until Cali return

[SwampG8r]

695. Kicked until Cali returns

[historylovr]

696. Kick

[Oilwellian]

697. I hope this OP stays on front page til Cali's return n/t

[darkangel218]

698. Kick!

[MoveIt]

699. Kick

[SwampG8r]

700. Back up top

[Autumn]

702. I think kicking this OP is a good idea

[merrily]

705. You do?

[MoveIt]

715. Yes

[merrily]

730. I thought you might!

[Zorra]

834. I believe you're on to something there.

kick

[Autumn]

842. Yes, Kicking it for cali and TM99

[Waiting For Everyman]

703. Wanna see where this trash came from?

Here ya go:

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=615

I'll copy and paste it because: 1) it'll probably disappear any time now; and 2) that way nobody has to give that cesspool additional clicks...

Harrop: The intolerence of Bernie Sanders

Quote

Post by Bravenak » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:45 pm

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_28 ... ie-sanders

I found this opinion piece and thought I'd share.

And this person is on time out for abusive behavior until late October, so she got surrogates to post it here for her. Smearing flamebait. This is the sort of "contribution" to DU from this person.

Stumbling upon this brought the whole mess "full circle" for me, I thought some others might find it interesting to see the source of it too.

[MoveIt]

704. Kick because the racists think they got away with it

[arcane1]

706. Kicking

[senz]

712. Kicked for cali.

And for discovered truths.

Cali, I hope you're having fun somewhere and will return refreshed and better than ever.

[SwampG8r]

713. Kicked until Cali returns

[ljm2002]

716. Kickin' it for you, cali...

...and hope to see you back here soon.

[AtomicKitten]

721. k for Cali

[TM99]

729. Another kick for Cali

until her return!

[historylovr]

736. Kicking

[sabrina 1]

737. I'm still trying to absorb how this racist tool got any play on this forum!

[Scootaloo]

744. She said what other racist tools wanted to hear.

[Major Hogwash]

754. Or she said what they wanted to say.

It's really annoying when they use code words to get their message across, and then do a "wink, wink" to each other in a different thread or group.
They're not fooling anyone but themselves.

[SwampG8r]

739. Kick for cali

[SwampG8r]

740. Gonna kick it every day

[Bonobo]

784. I found this on the 2nd page. Decided it needed a kick. nt

[ljm2002]

741. Kick for cali... n/t

[Bjorn Against]

746. Kick for Cali

[SwampG8r]

747. Every day til her return

[SwampG8r]

750. Kicked until Cali returns

Might as well pin it to the top

[TM99]

751. Another kick for Cali.

Keep this in the light!

[MoveIt]

753. Kick

the racist organized-alert-stalkers off this site.

[SwampG8r]

757. Kicked until Cali returns

[beam me up scottie]

758. For cali

[SwampG8r]

764. Kicked until Cali returns

[snooper2]

766. LOL

a little gif candlelight vigil for a random person who got a temp ban from a random website on the intertubes...

this is what the world has come to LOL

[polly7]

767. I know, right?

A bit stalkery, creepy and obsessive, wouldn't you say? Especially when done and danced to by MIRT members on their own site where they can't be challenged for it. What has the world come to LOL



[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[beam me up scottie]

768. Apparently it's okay as long as it's a Bernie supporter. At least they kicked the thread, polly.

I wonder if they realize that's the whole point?

[polly7]

769. They sure did.

I don't think they realized it.

I'm still upset at that hide. Cali loves being here and talking about important issues, she brings so much to this site. I guess I'm missing their point as to why it was so important to get rid of her.

Sad.

[restorefreedom]

770. jury results

On Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:23 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I know, right?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=640992

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

It's really creepy and stalkerish to continually put up posts from another site to bad mouth MIRT volunteers who haven't done anything wrong and continue to do their jobs. Skinner has dealt with this, so continuing to harass DU'ers on this open board is inappropriate not to mention, stalkerish.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:30 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Give me a break.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: UGH.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[polly7]

771. Thank you! nt.

[restorefreedom]

775. my pleasure. nt

[beam me up scottie]

774. Thank you, looks like Polly's on the list too.

[polly7]

776. Always! nt.

[restorefreedom]

779. as are many others.

the desperation grows

[arcane1]

777. Looks like the truth is starting to hurt a bit n/t

[restorefreedom]

778. seems so. nt

[NealK]

765. K&R

[polly7]

780. Morning kick. nt.

Last edited Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:54 PM - Edit history (1)

Oops.

Actually ............ evening kick. I took some stuff for a headache, had a good sleep and thought I'd slept all night.

Whatever .......... kickety, kick.

[hootinholler]

781. Miss you Cali. n/t

[SwampG8r]

782. Morning kick

I figured out why hrh supporters are so sure of alert stalking
Its because they were doing it already

[SwampG8r]

785. Kicked until Cali returns

[TheKentuckian]

818. They have been at it the whole damn time. They used to pretend it was Uber duber super UNPOSSIBLE!

as they chased liberal folks off, now they feign the victim and try to spin that there are too many Sanders supporters and we have mobbed the system.

These nasty little game has been going on for years now while they fiercely opposed any limitations on their precious anti dialog device.

[Puglover]

823. This.

For years it started in the BOG. They liked to say folks didn't post there because they were "haters" and loathed President Obama.

I would suggest the lack of posting said more about the prolific BOG posters then anything else.

Like most other LGTB posters I will NEVER forget the screaming during the Rick Warren imbroglio.

And my personal favorite was being told that, "You have enough rights."

Now a lot of them sport LGTB avatars. Ugh.

Miss you Cali.

[SwampG8r]

819. Post debate kick this stays up til Cali comes back

[Bjorn Against]

783. Kick

[MoveIt]

787. Kick

for Sunday morning.

[historylovr]

789. Kick

[Agony]

792. Kick

Seriously
WTF?
"He scores as an exotic who talks of barbershops and church socials"

[MoveIt]

793. Monday morning kick

Because you racists on that other site can go to hell!

[SwampG8r]

795. Kicked until Cali returns

[sabrina 1]

796. Amazing thread. Free Cali!

[Agony]

797. Kick

[SwampG8r]

798. Kicked until Cali returns

[MoveIt]

799. Kick

[SwampG8r]

800. Me and Joe tex

Never should have promised if we wasn't gonna do it

[NealK]

801. Kick!

[NealK]

802. Kick!

Oops! Double kick.

[historylovr]

803. Kicking

[NealK]

804. Kick!

[TM99]

805. Another kick for Cali.

[AtomicKitten]

806. k for cali

[historylovr]

807. 'Nother kick!

[artislife]

808. I was wondering why I kept seeing this float back into the top

Hey Cali!

[historylovr]

809. How about a morning kick?

[Corruption Inc]

811. Rec'd! Free Cali and ban Fox News pundits!

...

[kath]

812. Kicking for cali

[delrem]

813. This OP is so central, some of the sub-threads so good. Kicking.

[hootinholler]

814. Kicking because that racist piece of shit is still on the front page. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

815. Monday night k for cali.

[SwampG8r]

816. This stays on the front page til Cali is back

[SwampG8r]

832. Kicked

[SwampG8r]

835. Kicked

[SwampG8r]

858. Kicked

[SwampG8r]

866. Kicked for this weekend's display of hypocrisy from the weathervane

[kath]

817. Kicking for Cali

And cuz that other racist POS is still on the front page

[BeanMusical]

820. Kick!

Can't wait for you to be back.

[Autumn]

843. Kick, for cali and TM99

[BeanMusical]

846. They got TM99 too?

[Autumn]

863. They got him too

[AtomicKitten]

821. k for cali

[NCTraveler]

822. Hope you hold the same feelings for people....

who question the mental status of a majority of AA voters because of the democrat they support in the primary. Consistency and all. Please direct your same anger at them. Much to your chagrin, I won't hold my breath.

[Corruption Inc]

824. kicked!

...

[Cheese Sandwich]

825. Great post thanks for calling out the racist trolls

[AtomicKitten]

827. Saturday k for cali.

[historylovr]

828. Kick

[AtomicKitten]

829. Sunday night kick for cali.

[NealK]

830. Kick for Cali!

[beam me up scottie]

831. Kick!

[Puglover]

833. Kickity kick.

Looking forward to your return Cali!

[SwampG8r]

838. Kicked

[senz]

845. Kick for cali

We're thinking of you, cali, and looking forward to your return.

[SwampG8r]

847. Kicked

[BeanMusical]

848. Kick!

[beam me up scottie]

849. Sunday morning kick for cali!

[BeanMusical]

850. Kick!

[senz]

851. And another good kick!

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[historylovr]

852. Kick

[WorseBeforeBetter]

853. Anyone know the record # of posts for a DU thread?

I see this one is still alive...

[Uncle Joe]

854. Kicked for more exposure.

[Puglover]

855. Morning kick.

[polly7]

856. kick. nt.

[jfern]

857. Free Cali!

She was alert stalked until she was silenced.

[Fumesucker]

859. Kick...

[Fumesucker]

862. kick

[BeanMusical]

864. Kick!

[Fumesucker]

865. kick

[beam me up scottie]

867. Kick for cali!

[kath]

869. Kicking for Cali.

[SwampG8r]

870. Foul lies from a foul liar spread foully by foul liars

[SwampG8r]

878. Kicked

[SwampG8r]

881. Kicked

[SwampG8r]

892. Kicked

[SwampG8r]

894. Kicked

[SwampG8r]

895. Kicked

[beam me up scottie]

872. Kick!

[merrily]

877. No, no, no. I hate violence.

[kath]

873. Kickity-kick!

[beam me up scottie]

874. Kick!

[ljm2002]

875. Another kick for cali! n/t

[BeanMusical]

879. Kick in the ass to them!

[postatomic]

880. This is quite interesting

If I taught Psychology I'd use this thread in my classroom. I had a whole shit load of questions I was going to ask but decided against it, because I have serious doubts that I would get an honest answer.

[beam me up scottie]

882. kick in the butt for cali!

[delrem]

883. kicking this. it can't be said enough.

[senz]

884. Kick for cali

who should be coming back one of these days?

[davidpdx]

885. Kick for Cali

I realized I hadn't kicked this one in awhile. I hope it stays toward the top.

[beam me up scottie]

887. Kick for cali who was right about the racist journalist.

[jfern]

889. Just a couple more days until cali's timeout ends

[ieoeja]

890. Upsy daisy! n/t

[NCTraveler]

891. .

[ieoeja]

893. Kickeroo n/t

[senz]

896. Pretty soon we'll be welcoming cali back!

Meanwhile, the wars rage on at DU, and it's more clear than ever that the other side doesn't believe their own rhetoric. Reality slowly emerges, the truth comes into view.

We kept this thread alive the whole time!

[Cali_Democrat]

898. She was back...and then....

[senz]

899. If Hillary snags the nom, y'all might bear some responsibility

for how it turns out.

Now how's that for "power?"

[Cali_Democrat]

900. I'm not seeing the connection between Hillary wining the nomination

and an anonymous DU poster getting 5 or more hides.

Wanna help me out here?

[BeanMusical]

902. and then...

alert-stalked.

[arcane1]

909. "Reality slowly emerges, the truth comes into view."

Indeed!

[historylovr]

901. Kick

[cui bono]

903. kicking because it doesn't matter how long ago pure hatred is spewed.

[SwampG8r]

904. Kicked

[SwampG8r]

905. Kicked

[NCTraveler]

907. One of the best headlines ever written here.

I laugh my ass off every time it gets kicked. Maybe it's just how dizzy the headline makes me.

[Zorra]

908. ^

[AtomicKitten]

912. Looking forward to cali posting again.

[arcane1]

913. What the hell, one more kick to remind us who the real progressives are

And who are the phonies

[sibelian]

914. Good thing, too.