Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:14 PM

Gothmog (92,261 posts)

What Is Taking Joe Biden So Long?

I agree with this article that Biden is standing by as a failsafe for the party http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/09/joe_biden_is_taking_a_long_time_to_decide_about_running_for_president_is.html

What is the vice president doing? He’s running as the backup. “Biden is running for Clinton’s understudy—as the candidate who will go on at the last minute, if necessary, if she’s unable to continue for any reason,” explains political scientist and Bloomberg columnist Jonathan Bernstein. He grants that it isn’t clear that this is what Biden is thinking, but he thinks it is what’s happening.

The Democratic Party, or at least its establishment, needs a B Team—a candidate and a campaign to run if Clinton can’t. Sanders doesn’t fit the bill, and Martin O’Malley—who sits near the bottom of the polls, with 1 percent—isn’t visible enough to meet the challenge. Biden, the sitting vice president, is the natural choice. And so he does the work: He talks with lawmakers, sits with officials, meets with donors, and builds the skeleton of a campaign, with enough muscle to move if necessary. In the meantime, he’ll enjoy the attention of media and supporters. After all, it’s nice.

So long as there is no implosion in the Clinton campaign, I doubt that Biden will get into the race. If Biden does get in, he will be the nominee

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8 replies	Author	Time	Post
What Is Taking Joe Biden So Long? (Original post)	Gothmog	Sep 2015	OP
I don't think his heart is in it.	rug	Sep 2015	#1
What rug said.	SheilaT	Sep 2015	#2
I agree with you both.	hifiguy	Sep 2015	#6
That's exactly what he's doing. The PTB can't allow an earnest populist candidate to	valerief	Sep 2015	#3
No they can't and we can't let them!	Juicy_Bellows	Sep 2015	#5
Just the fact that he's so undecided seems like a disqualifier to me.	panader0	Sep 2015	#4
He's being coy. I hate that....n/t	monmouth4	Sep 2015	#7
If he comes in and threatens Hillary it's gonna be attack of the PUMAs	HereSince1628	Sep 2015	#8

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Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:18 PM

rug (82,333 posts)

1. I don't think his heart is in it.

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Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:19 PM

SheilaT (23,156 posts)

2. What rug said.

He may also be basking in all the attention, a very human sort of thing. But I sincerely doubt he has the heart to run, especially so soon after the death of his son.

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Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:44 PM

hifiguy (33,688 posts)

6. I agree with you both.

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Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:26 PM

valerief (53,235 posts)

3. That's exactly what he's doing. The PTB can't allow an earnest populist candidate to

steal the New Dem thunder.

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Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:36 PM

Juicy_Bellows (2,427 posts)

5. No they can't and we can't let them!

Go Bernie!

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Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:33 PM

panader0 (22,058 posts)

4. Just the fact that he's so undecided seems like a disqualifier to me.

If he did eventually run, I think voters would be hesitant to back him because of the lack of fire in his belly.

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Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:27 PM

monmouth4 (7,760 posts)

7. He's being coy. I hate that....n/t

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Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:42 PM

HereSince1628 (36,063 posts)

8. If he comes in and threatens Hillary it's gonna be attack of the PUMAs

That would be pretty ugly for Biden and it could be a disaster for the New Dems.

I think he'll hold out until he cannot. I think it'll be a matter of trick-or-treat.

He has enough name recognition to miss the 1st Dem debate. But he'll need to act by about Halloween, as some time will be required to get the paperwork done to get his name on the NH ballot and the deadline is mid Nov.

We've waited about 3 months, waiting another one isn't a big deal.

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