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[Deny and Shred]

1. Right off the bat, links will help with the discussion. Please share

Applause for an OP about a comparison between the two candidates' stances and proposed policies on an issue that can be compared apples-to-apples. Here's to hoping it gets somewhere without devolving.

[questionseverything]

3. i agree with op hc's plan..moves the costs but does not control them

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/73702/hillary-clinton-releases-more-plans-cut-health-care-costs

Clin­ton’s policy pro­pos­als in­clude: re­quir­ing in­surers and em­ploy­ers to provide up to three sick vis­its to a doc­tor an­nu­ally without hav­ing to first meet a plan’s de­duct­ible; provid­ing a pro­gress­ive, re­fund­able tax cred­it of up to $5,000 per fam­ily for out-of-pock­et costs; en­for­cing and broad­en­ing the ACA’s trans­par­ency pro­vi­sions; cre­at­ing a “fall­back pro­cess” for states that do not have the au­thor­ity to modi­fy or block health-in­sur­ance premi­um-rate in­creases; en­for­cing an­ti­trust laws while mon­it­or­ing health-in­dustry con­sol­id­a­tion; and mer­gers and build­ing on value-based de­liv­ery-sys­tem re­forms.

bernies plan

https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-to-lower-prescription-drug-prices/

and of course single payer which has huge cost savings












1. Negotiate A Better Deal

Require Medicare to use its bargaining power to negotiate with the prescription drug companies for better prices – a practice that is currently banned by law.
Last year there were more than 37 million Medicare beneficiaries enrolled in private Part D plans. 90 percent of seniors take at least one prescription. Many seniors – almost two-thirds – take three or more prescription drugs.
Not only would negotiation substantially reduce prices seniors and people with disabilities pay for drugs, it could save Medicare between $230 billion to $541 billion dollars over the next decade.
83 percent of Americans support allowing the federal government to negotiate with drug companies for better prices.

2. Import Prescriptions from Canada

Allow individuals, pharmacists, and wholesalers to import prescription drugs from licensed Canadian pharmacies.

[BlueWaveDem]

2. I read that Hillary's plan includes letting medicare negotiate prices and import drugs from other

Countries. (Sorry ran out of room above)

I edited to add https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/09/21/hillary-clinton-plan-for-lowering-prescription-drug-costs/

[questionseverything]

4. hmmmm

what do you mean you ran out of room above?

this is your first post in thread???

[BlueWaveDem]

5. In this box I ran out of room. Couldn't fit the word 'countries'.

[Motown_Johnny]

7. Doesn't the 80/20 rule make it even worse than just shifting costs?

Because the insurance companies can then add 25% to the cost to add to their profits.


For example, if I pay $800.00 dollars out of pocket for something but had that cost shifted to my insurance company they could then claim that $800.00 as money they pay out for benefits and can then raise premiums by that amount plus 25% or $1000.00.



Not much of a plan, unless you own a lot of stock in insurance companies.