Hurry! Get IBTL!

[MannyGoldstein]

I just want to take a moment to thank the proprietors and inhabitants of

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/

again, that's:

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/

From the marvelous picture of our next President that welcomes visitors to the site, to... well, I won't go there... every pixel is crafted as if by Leonard Pinth-Garnell himself.

I haven't had so much fun in months. Which partially speaks to my lack of fun, but still, that site is awful, awful entertaining.



Now I await my lock. And it's alright. Because someone needs to thank these people. And that person is me. Because http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/ rocks. And it's alright. As foretold by the Velvet Underground.

[Prism]

1. One of the most epic DU fails of all time

I haven't had this much meta reading fun around these parts since the actual meta forum existed.

[Scootaloo]

2. I'm a bit sniffy that I've onlygotten one mention there

And got called a friend in it!

Everyone else gets snarling hate and epithets! C'mon, you jerks! Stop making me feel left out of your vitriol! Where are the efforts to alert-stalk me? Why don't I get threats?

Huff.

[MannyGoldstein]

3. Seriously? You blew the lid offa the thing, no?

You deserve better, Scoot. They done you wrong.

Come to think of it... I don't remember seeing *my* name there. Hopefully a Voldemort sorta thing.

[senz]

77. Don't they have a couple of "private" threads?

Maybe they're "mentioning" you there.

Oh what a happy bunch they are...

[hifiguy]

215. There's a "Grumble" room you need to have the secret handshake to get into.

And that is apparently where the dirt on DUers is dished with trowels.

Sad little people, just sad.

[MannyGoldstein]

165. Ha! It was only a matter of time!

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=781

[Scootaloo]

168. Hmph. Always a bridesmaid!

[sabrina 1]

174. I can only say, the small corners of the internet badly needed another DU bashing cave-like

site. And voila, there it is!

I will add thank the gods these are not Bernie supporters. Imagine trying to defend that?

I assume since they hate DU so much, they will not be returning?

[polly7]

175. I don't think they will ...........

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

They have like their own cheer, and everthang. Don't seem to like this place much at all.

[sabrina 1]

192. That one has thoroughly exposed her/himself now. How childish. Seriously, no discussion of issues,

just hate for those who exercise their right not to support a politician based on issues.

I'll say it again, I am so relieved we don't have to try to explain that kind of 'supporter' to anyone.

I'm beginning to feel sorry for Hillary supporters who are not a part of this. And certainly wouldn't try to blame them for it. No wonder Hillary is losing support so rapidly, especially among women.

[polly7]

196. You said it .......... just, hate.

I think they need to get out in the fresh air for awhile and really ask themselves what such obsession with people on the other side of a monitor is doing to them.

They certainly aren't 'helping' anyone or anything, except maybe their own emotional need to tear others down and get 'revenge' for whatever slight they're feeling that's made this so important to them.

Stepped in their own crap and now seem stuck in it.

[sabrina 1]

203. It's very hard to understand that kind of hatred for people they don't even know. I suppose we ought

to feel sorry for them in a way. I can't imagine spending that kind of precious time on something so negative, it damages the spirit.

Well, I clicked on the link, saw it and am now more convinced than ever that Hillary supporters will contribute enormously to her losing this election, just as they did last time, with their race and red baiting and dog whistling etc.

Just glad I don't have to try to defend this because there really isn't a defense for it.

[reddread]

327. +1

mystifying

[polly7]

328. I try to feel sorry for people with that much hate ...... sometimes I accomplish it,

sometimes I just can't do it, and hope Karma is really a thing.



“Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated.”

― George Bernard Shaw

[bvar22]

211. They should start their own church:

The Church of the Perpetual Victim.
They have already picked a saint....so why not?


If it wasn't for all those mean, right wing Bernie supporters,
their World would be just peachy.

[polly7]

248. Yes, they should! Spawn of Satan 'BS' and his 'disgusting' supporters need to be cast

out. I actually read that ... BS and his supporters have no right to be called Democrats, and then all the vile names they called him - just pure hate. And hiding to do it, instead of letting people answer to it directly, here - that's what really gets me. The cowardice of it, all the while plotting and laughing about getting Cali out - by MIRT members, no less. Just gross.

Some there don't surprise me at all - bullying, alongside their perpetual victim-hood have been their MO all along, but others ..... it is sad to see.

Most people I know in real life try to lift others up, not tear them down.

[hifiguy]

216. Their level of Total Paranoia, projection and flat-out delusion

is heading towards Jim Jones territory.

[sabrina 1]

224. Either that or it's an act. Playing the victim constantly can't be sustained with

any kind of credibility. I mean how much more whining can they do before people just roll their eyes?

[bvar22]

287. How much more before people just roll their eyes??

That threshold was surpassed about two weeks ago.

Here, I saved saved some:


I have a whole bunch more if you want a few. I've been keeping them in a bag under my desk.

[sabrina 1]

296. Lol, it must be frustrating when all the talking points, so expensive too, go nowhere, all the

cards pulled out, race card, women card, red baiting card, end up in the garbage. The latest is to attack Bernie's wife, which will also go nowhere.

If I worked that hard only to end up losing, I would be whining too.

Which is why I like to pick electable, viable, qualified people to support, like Bernie. They are pretty much immune to the smear mongering.

[magical thyme]

222. they lurk and gripe about DU constantly

and there are a couple that continue to post here, apparently in an effort to get us to lose tempers so they can alert. They've stated outright they intend to keep harassing Cali to keep her in "time-out" as much as possible. Also, supposedly one of them is on MIRT over here and apparently is using that position to try to get Bernie-supporters PPR'd.

I was feeling like I'd picked up a stalker here, who was needling me constantly in recent weeks. I found her username over there yesterday, so put her on ignore. She's been ignoring me ever since, but that could be a coincidence. Maybe my "ignoreds" no longer light up "my posts?"

[Enthusiast]

269. +1 a whole bunch!

[840high]

270. Yes. Especially one member there who keeps

posting here on DU that she has no interest in DU.

[delrem]

245. KMOD is playing their #1 hit song for you, Manny.

Tho' neener neener you're just a placeholder because they can't even do this right!
KMOD projecting...
"So listen up, Black people, Women, other minorities who BS can't acknowledge so they won't be mentioned, BS is your savior. He, and he alone can save your life. He will out yell people, and things will change."

But this song is their only shot, so perhaps that'll be a consolation.

[MannyGoldstein]

251. I'm a very bad man

But, in truth, I think I'm only the second-most pompous. But I'll cop to most irritating.

[delrem]

253. At least you have the wit to distinguish from 3rd way Manny. nt

[AtomicKitten]

4. IBTL2: Locked Harder.

[frylock]

74. And this time, it's personal.

[Scootaloo]

84. In a world... where threads are locked every day... ONE MAN... stands against the tide!

"HEEEEEY YOUSE GUUUUU-UYYYYS!"

Manny Goldstein!

(woosh noise)

"What the fuck am I even doing here, this isn't the knitting group?"

Frylock!

(Woosh noise)

"SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

And Atomic kitten!

In!

(WOOSH! WOOSH! BANG! BANG!)

In Before The Lock II: FIVE HIDES WILD!

(BITCHIN' GUITAR SOLO)

[polly7]

85. LOL!

[frylock]

89. You want anything from the snack bar?

[senz]

96. YES!

[cui bono]

104. Hahaha...

[MindfulOne]

131. "Please excuse our mess, we are still under a little bit of construction for opening day"

They should just take the first phrase and go with that as the title of the site.

"Please excuse our mess".

And look into using higher resolution pics of Hillary, wouldja?

[cui bono]

182. And they could add "We're not sure when we'll get the issues forum going.

Still trying to figure out what we're supposed to think about things. We'll get back to you when we get the memo with the listening tour focus group results."

I mean really, it's been up a month and they've filled up the board with hate directed at Bernie and DU but they can't find time to make one click that would open the "Issues" forum? What do they need to do to open that? What needs to be set up to allow people to discuss issues?

What a pathetic crowd over there. Every single one of them who participates on a vile site such as that does not deserve any response on here other than "you've discredited yourself by participating on Haterville so your opinion on DU means nothing any more." That's my feeling.

[Qutzupalotl]

221. The Issues page will be up

after she's elected president.

[hifiguy]

223. DUzy!

[LondonReign2]

341. An absolutely deserted "Issues" section that has managed only three topics

one of which is an actual topic, perfectly describes the Hillary fans that posted here.

[cui bono]

360. Seriously, it wasn't even open for posting until the site was ridiculed here.

The only reason that site was operating was to spew hate. By the ones who like to call actual critical thinkers "haters" no less.

Hypocrisy and projection on steroids!

[Fawke Em]

250. The hi-res pic comment made me LOL.

Such a purty site with such blurry pics.

Hey hill fans, it's easier to scale down than scale up.

Which, I guess, is why you're Hill fans.

[MannyGoldstein]

150. And that one man stands victorious before you.

Very puzzled, but unbroken.

Do I smell warm pepperoni? Not sure, I think I caught a whiff.

[marym625]

212. LMFAO!

Bravo, my friend!

[hifiguy]

219. That is definitely one of the great posts of the week.`

[roguevalley]

238. oh god, manny. So funny. Thanks. I won't kill myself tonight just because of you. :D:D:D

seriously, they depress the shit out of me. I don't get them at all.

[sabrina 1]

244. Lol! Great post!

[HooptieWagon]

5. They're doing us a favor.

Posting there where they aren't afraid of civility requirements is quite eye-opening as to how deeply disturbed those individuals are.

[MannyGoldstein]

11. Aw, chill.

I prefer to believe it's performance art. The alternative is just too awful.

[daleanime]

6. Hi....

just wanted to be in before the lock.

[slipslidingaway]

7. No lock needed, many are proud of what they post over there. n/t

[Oilwellian]

8. I want in before the lock

The Twilight Zone is a real place.

[elehhhhna]

12. Ibtl

[aidbo]

9. IBTL

[pa28]

10. That's what angry people who are losing on their ideas and record sound like.

So much hate. Tsk.

[jwirr]

305. Not that we don't have enough hate in the world - now they

have created another source.

[Fumesucker]

13. I imagine the popcorn consumption at the actual Cave is astronomical

[SixString]

14. IBTL

[MisterP]

15. oo, we're "Bernie Underground"

[840high]

53. I saw that - gave me

a good laugh. We're also all very nasty people.

[eridani]

114. That's actually true. This is a board with 261 different issue groups

Oddly enough, that will attract issue junkies, which most Sanders supporters are.

[Duppers]

265. Yep, better issue junkies than personality cult types.

[ALBliberal]

16. I thought the post looked fishy!

[sheshe2]

17. Lol~

[MannyGoldstein]

19. Brava! Magnifique!

No, really!

[neverforget]

22. Not Good Enough Manny!!!!

[MannyGoldstein]

26. That was *gin* that went up my nose, dammit!

Do you have any @#$%ing idea of what that feels like? Any idea at all? Feels like someone took a hatchet to my head, that's what it feels like.

Think before you post, next time, for Goddess' sake!

[zeemike]

60. Doctor Manny and mister Jim

When he's pilled you don't notice him,
It only comes out when he drink his gin.

[MannyGoldstein]

73. Can you see the real me?

[zeemike]

92. Sure I can, you're Happy Jack.

Happy Jack wasn't old, but he was a man
He lived in the sand at the Isle of Man
The kids would all sing, he would take the wrong key
So they rode on his head on their furry donkey

[Fawke Em]

271. DUers quoting my favorite band makes me feel so at home!

And I'm a girl, btw.

Here's my Sunday go to Who meetin' shoes:

[zeemike]

274. Now that is some footwear right there.

[MannyGoldstein]

275. Those are incredibly cool shoes

Makes me think of...

[senz]

313. Gawd those are cute!

Love 'em. Love that a Bernie supporter is out there wearing 'em too.

[Fawke Em]

323. ...and wearin' 'em in the red state of Tennessee.

But, then again, Jane Sanders and I are both alums of the University of Tennessee, so there's that!

[polly7]

329. Gorgeous shoes!

[Fawke Em]

332. They are, but they're not a bit comfortable.

I'm short - only 5'1", so I'm used to wearing heels - but these hurt my toes. It's not even the height of the heel.

I really only wear them to Who concerts, so I just take a pair of foldable ballet slippers to walk to and from the venue. (I LOVE the Who, so we go to their concerts more often than you think - and I'm friends with Simon Townshend - Pete's little brother who plays rhythm guitar with the band when they're on the road, so we go... a lot. I always get a text from him when their near my town and sometimes he plays his solo music at local venues.)

In any case, they get TONS of attention at the concert. No less than a 100 people come up to me to ask about the shoes at every concert.

They really are beautiful and that picture doesn't do them justice.

Thanks for commenting on them!

[polly7]

333. Wow ........ I'm jealous!

I'd love to hear them play, that you're so close to them is great! I bet they do get a lot of attention - I'd be scared to wear them I'm such a klutz. They are stunning - maybe you could stretch the toes a bit somehow? Scary though, it might mess up the outside.

I'm happy for you! Hope you enjoy many more concerts!

[Fawke Em]

334. It's not that they're too tight - it's just they're kind of hard on the inside.

I think it's the shape.

And, sadly, the rest of the concert had to be postponed because Roger Daltrey has meningitis. Was going to see them again in Lexington in December.

[Fawke Em]

268. Quadrophenia is my favorite LP of all time.

I'm gonna kiss you.

[zeemike]

273. Well I am puckered up.

But my favorite is Who's Next...and I love the older ones too like Magic Bus...the songs have that Innocent feeling to them.

It brings back such memories.

[reddread]

278. best of the oo operas

overall beaten only by the Lamb Lies Down imo.
(in the category of double LP thematic concept albums.)

[SusanCalvin]

48. Bwaaaaaaaah!

(Never forget.)

(Not good enough, err.....)

[beam me up scottie]

113. LMAO!

[sheshe2]

27. Thanks! Looool!

Dayum I love Tina Fey!!

[MannyGoldstein]

61. Is it OK if I'm Old School?

[sibelian]

155. ...less and less text...

...with every post...

[sibelian]

154. Your posts are less wordy of late.

Before long your entire gang will be reduced to Dithers-level communication, reflexive smilies and posting "yawn" on every thread you see for months on end, with nothing else to say.

No great loss.

[hifiguy]

227. Oh, SNAP.

SO true and that deserves a pony.

[Go Vols]

349. lol

[Puglover]

364. Perfect and True!

[MoveIt]

18. I heard it costs $2700 per new login now

Surge Pricing meets Persona Management! its so hip to be a http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/

[sheshe2]

30. $2700

to log in.





Lol~

[MoveIt]

40. And that's *per* login

What's cool is they don't charge extra or penalize anyone there for anti-semitism either!

[sheshe2]

65. ha ha ha~

Your post....




Please post a link to the anti-semitism.To the exact statement.

[MoveIt]

68. Nah i'm sure someone else can

Going to leave you to your animated gif pile and losing candidate.



and btw its SARCASM , not bs.

[sheshe2]

70. You just lost. nt

[MoveIt]

72. You guys totally meant to do that

Shamelessly stolen from Aerows in this thread that should be embarrassing for you but clearly is not. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251616648

oh yeah

almost forgot

[ismnotwasm]

158. Nope not even a little bit

Didn't forget it all all

[sabrina 1]

262. I would, but I would have to go back there which is as tempting as clicking on the Cave!

I did see the 'hate' for Bernie and his supporters with the one click I will ever make to that site!

I wonder how it must feel to have so much hate towards people simply because they like a different candidate than do? I can't imagine, probably just as well. Which is why I make sure to choose candidates I don't have a hard time defending on issues. Makes it easier not to get frustrated with people doing what citizens are supposed to do, talk about issues.

[ismnotwasm]

157. I think I'll add a gratuitous link to the site

http://hillarycl...no wait others are doing that for me. Sweet.

[sibelian]

315. I don't think that extra traffic's going to work out so well, in the end.

It might have been different if there were already a large number of Hillary supporters here or the forum you aren't linking to served any useful purpose or even if it was well designed, but you know, it really doesn't look good.

I did think there might be something beyond status games at work beind the useless garbage generated by the small number of Clinton supporters making the most mess on this board. I would say I was disappointed, but my expectations of your gang were even lower than my expectations of Clinton.

You resemble her greatly, in fact.

[sheshe2]

319. Good advertising, isn't it ism.

What they don't realize is that they are making more and more people here turn to Hillary. One of them just PMed me, a former Bern supporter just joined our site! Awesome!



You rock ism!

[beam me up scottie]

321. Cool story, she.

And since your site is now known for bigotry I wouldn't consider this good advertising.

[sibelian]

314. ... and the smilies get slightly bigger and more expressive...

... as the ability to form useful statements in ordinary English is slowly eclipsed by the enormity of actually having to face up to unforeseen consequences...

It's a bit odd, really. You can't possibly imagine that people here wouldn't have seen it.

[Fumesucker]

64. Well yeah, but you should see what's in the Thx Box

[HooptieWagon]

20. What's really funny..

The Grumble Forum is the most popular, with 126 topics.
The Issues Forum is still under construction.
I can only conclude they don't pay attention to the issues, but like to whine a lot.

[MannyGoldstein]

21. Must be a software glitch

'cos I'd never expect that to happen with those folks in real life.

[sheshe2]

31. Ha!

[cui bono]

47. Yeah, site's been live for one month and they have yet to discuss any issues.

OMG... too fucking funny.

You are spot on about the no issues, just whining.

[djean111]

118. Their only "issue" is that Bernie is running and that he has supporters who refuse to join

The Borg. And - they honestly think that is the kind of issue we are talking about when we say we support Bernie because of issues.

Oh, and here is another thing - remember how the GOP accuses Democrats of dirty tricks that the GOP is doing, as a distraction and deflection? Same thing is happening here.

I leave you this - Hillary's advice to Monsanto, which makes this quadruple funny and other words it is too early to remember - "Change your marketing, not your product." Bwhahahahaha!

[SCVDem]

162. Nobody willingly joins the Borg!

(Except Janeway in the finale.)

You are forcefully assimilated and nanites injected into your blood. Whatever happened to wine, women and song?

Resistance is futile!

[ismnotwasm]

159. My, that's a lot of counting

Good for you!

[MoveIt]

164. Can we count on you to keep these threads kicked all weekend long?

[sibelian]

310. It's a lot of apolitical, petulant junk is what it is.

If that site can do better, I don't see anything stopping it.

[sibelian]

309. Are we even FAINTLY taken aback by this?

Has there EVER been any question that that bunch of pointless tossers has ever been on this site for anything other than hearing themselves talk? And primarily about OTHER PEOPLE or THEMSELVES or EACH OTHER? When you add up the amount they've posted about politics and the amount they've posted about DU, what would you find?

They haven't the least interest in politics and never have, politics for them is nothing more than a lightning conductor, DU is/was their social circle and Hillary's a placeholder for their latest "contraversial" stance. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the primary motivation for most of them in choosing Hillary is BECAUSE Bernie's so popular on this site.

That place is Troll Heaven.

[senz]

318. +1000

Thanks for putting it into words, sibelian. Rings true.

Like a 40-years later version of ...




Not even remotely worthy of an even half-serious political website.

[SusanCalvin]

23. IBTL.

[alittlelark]

24. That was a desperate and disturbing link....

.... w/ lotsa $$$ behind it to 'enhance' what individuals put in.....

[irisblue]

25. This is my first primary season

all this nastiness sucks, I can understand the passion, but the name calling and meanness is awful.

[SusanCalvin]

41. Yep.

I made my first primary campaign contribution in 2008, after Hillary said, in essence, "the R and I are OK, but I don't know about that Obama guy."

[sabrina 1]

247. Yes, it does suck. To set up a whole site to say things about people on this site you can't say

here without getting a hide, and rightly so, that's a whole lot of nastiness right there. But not at all surprising sad to say.

[polly7]

249. They're cowards. nt.

[sabrina 1]

264. And when they do attack people here, get deserved hides according to the community standards, they

claim, I am not kidding here btw, that 'Bernie supporters got them hidden'. I pointed out to one of them, who is pretty prominent now on that site, no surprise there, expressing her hatred for Bernie and his supporters, that no one 'gets you hidden but yourself'. I know you would agree with that polly, as you are not a coward and willing to say what you want to say, right here.

I don't think that site is going very well. Won't be revisiting to find out, but all indications are that all it has done is to expose a few people and not in a very good light.

[polly7]

297. Agree, I've seen that, Sabrina. They take no responsibility for their own hides, while at the

same time conspire (plenty of proof of that screen-capped for all to see) to goad others into reacting to garbage in hopes they'll be hidden or timed-out. What they're bragging about over Cali is the lowest of the low.

And thank you, I do say what I want to say and mean every word of it ....... sometimes that doesn't work out so well, but what can ya do.[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

You do the same, but you're much nicer about it.

That's why I just don't get why people who are members here need a site like that to back-stab posters who they've been with for years - well I do, but it surprises me. Their 'issues' page wasn't even up and running until all their ugly crap was brought here first. I can't imagine being in that group - how depressing would it be to look forward to nothing but gossipy garbage every day? Getting into heated conversations about something important to you is normal - running away to hide and smear and claim victory, then back here to demand the poster here talks to you with respect ........ that's just crazy thinking and crazy-making.

Hope they enjoy themselves there, because now that their ass has been shown and their complete disgust and hatred for certain people here displayed, they won't get quite the reception from those people or those who care about them when they come back to bully or pretend. I'm sure of that.

[sabrina 1]

298. As I said as soon as I saw it, it reminds me of the 'cave'. People obsessed with DU and its members,

expressing their hatred in what is already a depressing cesspool and shows why we need moderation, a jury system to keep a site relatively worthwhile visiting.

I assume that now we won't be seeing them here anymore since they hate the place so much. That would be my choice, and has been, whenever I didn't like a site, just left and didn't look back.

[polly7]

300. Oh they're back ........ and proud as hell about it.

Accusing people here of all sorts of shit against them for even talking about it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251623863

One in particular is very proud to destroy a good man's name for made-up crap about his supporters and all the lies against him personally.

I was surprised. That takes a lot of gall.

[sabrina 1]

324. With a lot less credibility now. They hate the place but come here anyhow, that to me spells

'disrupter'.

[Hortensis]

301. Iris, this is DU's main primary season namecalling and meanness subforum.

Happily for DU, most of the nastiness occurs here, although of course it does spill out. Nevertheless, there are many nicer forums on DU, even if people there do spend an inordinate amount of time discussing what goes on here! In any case, try ones dedicated to your favorite candidates and issues you are concerned with.

[TygrBright]

28. I was just AWED by the Home Page.

I mean... it's....

deep, yanno? A sort of sarcastic, meta-modern, layered trope on the level of planning and attention given to details like... um... page layout.

And the IMAGES... WOW!!!! I just swooned over "Dropdown menu system built directly into the Gantry core"!

amusedly,
Bright

[MannyGoldstein]

34. A respectful homage to the WTF? school

of Web design.

With a soupçon of cringeiness.

[sheshe2]

62. Really?

Bill has built 3, how many have you built? Here is one, LGBT WORLD!

Awesome. I am sure as a Democrat you highly support there rights.

http://lgbtworld.info/

When he first built that site. He made me an editor. I helped him with his site. He trusted me to post Ops and he trusted me with his site. I love and believe in him. He built several beautiful sites.

A respectful homage to the WTF? school of Web design. With a soupçon of cringeiness

Stop crapping on things you know nothing about. Try building your own site.

[MannyGoldstein]

67. I'm sorry.

For all of it.

[sheshe2]

94. Do you or do you not support LGTB?

FYI, do not hug me.

[polly7]

97. What does supporting LGTB have to do with what was said jokingly of the web design? nt.

[sheshe2]

100. Hey Polly...

Read the thread.

[polly7]

105. Heya sheshe!

I did. You turned it into someone supposedly being against LGBT, when you're the one that brought LGBT into it. The web site joking was about the new hate site.

You try so hard to create division.

[cui bono]

102. "FYI, do not hug me"

omg... some people are getting so damn funny!

You should stick to this type of comedy. It's much better than your slimy OPs where you attempt to swiftboat Sanders.

[MannyGoldstein]

124. Sorry. That was a bit stalkerish?

I will hug you by proxy until we're on better terms.

[sabrina 1]

266. How sad! Or are you just joking here? I know you are a proponent of using 'cards' to divide

Democrats if possible, but surely you've learned by now that playing those cards harm only the 'dealer'? Especially on a Dem forum, c'mon, it's old, it's jaded, it's notorious and it's ineffective. Seriously.

[MannyGoldstein]

302. Sanders supporters using the *card* card!

Can you people stoop any lower?

Regards,

TWM

[sibelian]

308. What a fatuous question...

Did you expect polly to say "no I don't?"

Don't worry about being hugged, incidentally, I can't imagine there are very many people keen on the idea of hugging you right now.

[SMC22307]

93. I highly support *there* rights not to suffer crappy websites.

And that website looks one step above an HTML 101 course I took back in the late '90s.

[sheshe2]

98. So, you have been to Bills LGBT World Site!!!

SMC22307
93. I highly support *there* rights not to suffer crappy websites. And that website looks one step above an HTML 101 course I took back in the late '90s.

Oh, wait you have not.....it is crappy. Wow. It is a crappy site, thanks for your support of LGBT rights. You Democrat you! You are awesome. Not!!!!!!!!!!

[polly7]

106. Wrong site being discussed. nt.

[MoveIt]

109. LOL she's got you on the ropes!

[SMC22307]

208. Only in SheShe/Cha/Chae/Zidzi-Land would criticism of a poorly designed website equal...

a lack of support for LGBT rights. You are a never-ending source of entertainment, so for that, I truly thank you.

[delrem]

255. laughing!

you do have a good way of explaining things.
Isn't it fun finding positive ways to turn sometimes unpleasant fact into amusing educational experiences?

[sabrina 1]

280. Now be fair. There are 'cards' that have to be played with 'lefties' during election season!

THAT was an attempt to play ONE of those cards, poorly executed, true.

However, in a spirit of good will, I am giving it an A for effort.

[SMC22307]

282. You're too kind, Sabrina.

Guess I'm smarmed-out for the day.

....

Do not be critics, you people, I beg you. I was a critic and I wish I could take it all back because it came from a smelly and ignorant place in me, and spoke with a voice that was all rage and envy. Do not dismiss a book until you have written one, and do not dismiss a movie until you have made one, and do not dismiss a person until you have met them.

Here we have the major themes or attitudes of smarm: the scolding, the gestures at inclusiveness, the appeal to virtue and maturity. Eggers used to be a critic, but he has grown out of childish things. Eggers has done the work—the book publishing, the Hollywood deal-making—that makes his opinions (unlike those of his audience) earned and valid opinions.

....

http://gawker.com/on-smarm-1476594977

Unless you've designed (and edited!) a website, suckers, just STFU!

[sabrina 1]

283. Lol, I'm not really that kind, anymore. Watching the smarm, good word btw, we've been watching here

over the past few years, seeing that attempt to draw someone into swearing an oath on something that was so far removed from the topic of the OP, not to mention the ACTUAL website under discussion, confirmed my opinion, and that of many others, that the playing of the Race card here was never sincere. Nor the Women card, and difinitely not the Gay card.

I got in and out of that website as fast as possible. And definitely won't be returning. I didn't pay that much attention to the design,, it was all the hate being directed towards DUers that caught my attention.

On the good side, maybe DU will finally be free of the disrupters who stake claims to represent entire groups of people, unless someone from that group happens to disagree with them.

I trust your judgement on websites, I was not by any means being anything but facetious considering the little game that was being played, so familiar now from that source.

[SMC22307]

284. I've heard that back in the *olden days,* DU felt like a community.

Perhaps with the exodus of some of the more rabid Hillionaires, the site will feel that way again.

Yeah, I'm definitely over the -ists and -isms and finger-wagging. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

[Major Hogwash]

288. Depends on who you talk to about it.

To me, the olden days at the DU wasn't so much as a community, but rather more like a crowded 2-seater outhouse with a very long line of impatient members with urgent business on their mind lined up out in front of it.
Some former members said that sometimes the lines were so long that they couldn't even see the outhouse from where they were standing in the line, even though they could smell it long before it came in to sight.
The DU started out well enough with BYOB as a rule, but quickly turned out to become BYOTP before the very first Presidential election cycle took place at the DU.
And well, as they say, the rest is just histrionics.

[SMC22307]

299. Even during the Bush years?

Sevenish years of community goodwill? I've heard tell of the gay purge and the 2008 PUMAs, so I know it wasn't all milk and honey.

Yours is an interesting analogy; negative, but interesting!

[sibelian]

316. I was there at the time, and it was. There was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing, sure...

... but not like it has been since the launch of DU3.

I had a different account in those days, I scrambled the password and left. I can no longer access the identity, and I think it died some time ago with DU3 being launched.

Lots of the people I've been sparring with over the past few years I would have called kind, thoughtful people in that previous life. No more.

[sibelian]

311. Well, as a gay man...

I feel I must inform you that I have never been particularly taken with Bill's contributions to DU.

I haven't seen his other work. I can only assume it's roughly as useful as hillarysupporters.com.

[Bobbie Jo]

340. Pssst...

*their* rights.

I mean if you're going to make an effort to emphasize a word and all...



You were back-slapping and making fun of editing downthread, you may want to start with your own stuff.

[senz]

347. lol, the comment you are replying to included the misspelling on purpose.

It is a response to the original misspelling, which is why the commenter emphasized the word. Take a look at the comment they are responding to.

Sorry to spoil your fun.

[SMC22307]

354. Thanks. Should I have used [sic]?

Happy to kick this thread again!

[senz]

358. Well, that's how it's done in published work, but you probably assumed

your intended commenter would catch her own error (which she never did!), and didn't think anyone would call you on it without at least trying to figure out why you used it. But of course, some people sniff around looking for "gotcha" opportunities. Always nice to know who they are.

And fun to catch 'em in the act.

Yeah, this thread's a classic, worth kicking.

[SMC22307]

353. LOL, the use of * * flew right over your head...

goodness.

[Bobbie Jo]

355. Yuck

[SMC22307]

357. Oh dear, are you micro-aggrieved over * *?

[senz]

95. Y'all build a site to trash people you don't like

and then you get all pissy when the same people make light of it ...

that's just too wonderful, sheshe2 ...

[muriel_volestrangler]

167. Maybe you should ask Bill to help you with hillaryclintonsupporters.com, then

All it would really take is someone commenting out the stuff at the bottom, and it would look like a live site, rather than one under preparation. You've had about a month for that, haven't you? Ifd you just comment it out, it's still there as examples for the site editors to learn about site design with.

Oh - I see Bill has already put his name on it. That's unfortunate.

[MrMickeysMom]

195. "Awesome. I am sure as a Democrat you highly support there rights."

You might want to edit that spelling to "their" rights…

I'm sure it's the awesomeness of the candidate, not the web site, that counts in THEIR campaign. That, and good editing.

[sibelian]

312. Um. Well, if you want my ACTUAL opinon of that site, I'd rather gay people were portrayed

... as at least being able to spell.

There's a list header on that page aggregating articles that are "Most Pupolar"

What's "Pupolar"?

[SMC22307]

320. Ha, ha... to editing!

There's a lot - A LOT - of kvetching on this site about "white saviours," often by those who have crowned themselves "gay saviours."

Yep, never-ending source of entertainment!

[beam me up scottie]

322. LOL!

Hey, sibelian ---

[snooper2]

369. I'll give it a 4.5 out of 10

If you want to see some really well designed web sites I can show you


For example-

Check this-

http://acme-experience.com/retail-and-trading

[Old Codger]

29. IBTL

made it ......

[Zorra]

32. That website is the perfect example of what happens when people

who can't face the truth are confronted with it.

Love the Lou Reed, here's my all time favorite version ~

On edit: IBTL!!!

[MannyGoldstein]

37. That's one of my favorite albums, too!

Mindblowingly good. Just mindblowing.

Opening guitar work. Everything. Incredible.

[Zorra]

69. Yeah, huh? Steve Hunter!

[reddread]

116. and Dick Wagner!

[MannyGoldstein]

147. Another 'rockier' Lou Reed album I love is New York

These days, I often think of this:

And there's Transformer. And Songs for Drella. And...

I miss Lou. His death knock me sideways for a bit, still does when I think of it, which is likely why I'm babbling now.

[Zorra]

172. Great song, perfect Bernie tune for right now.

Lou was always ahead of his time, his death made me feel old. I had the original VU & Nico album. In the 80's, I gave my album collection to a relative, and they all got destroyed in a bizarre flood, the VU & Nico included.


His wife Laurie does some outside stuff as well, and I like her music a lot, too.

[hifiguy]

228. I saw Laurie Anderson live in 1984

at a theater. AMAZING show.

[OnyxCollie]

239. I saw Laurie Anderson in the late 90's.

At a venue in the theater district of Cleveland.

Nobody at the radio station I worked at was interested in seeing her, so I took the tickets.

They were front row seats.

[senz]

259. Saw her live at the San Francisco Opera House circa 1990.

Had been an admirer for years, had several of her albums on cassette, and in the 80s saw her performance film Home of the Brave along with the Talking Heads' Stop Making Sense also in S.F. and loved both.

Big fan of Lou Reed and VU forever, found Lou rather devastating, was a teeny bit envious of Laurie when they got together but when she described his passing realized how perfect she had been for him.

Some of these events seem so long ago.

[Indepatriot]

233. My all-time FAVORITE Lou record. Nothin' but the truth...

[OnyxCollie]

237. I had tickets to see him on the New York tour.

He fell off stage during practice and broke his ankle. The show was cancelled.

[reddread]

325. Songs for Drella is truly a work of art

it stands above almost every record ever made for its intense visceral handle on art and life in such a historically significant conjunction. Reed and Cale together should be enough to shatter worlds.
On a brilliant recounting of their experiences with Warhol?
priceless in a way that priceless things will never be.

its the shit.

[MannyGoldstein]

330. Way underappreciated, no doubt.

A friend of one of my relatives was Reed's assistant or some such thing when they made the album. I was told that those two were not best buds.

But sometimes tension makes for great music.

[OnyxCollie]

236. Most of the band later played on Alice Cooper's "Welcome to My Nightmare" album.

Including Steve Hunter, who most definitely rocks Rock 'n' Roll Animal.

[zappaman]

38. Why are you complaining?

Aren't all those people the ones who were "race nagging", your words of course...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251467790#post3

[MannyGoldstein]

58. Wow! You found a phrase to repeat over and over!

That's so awesome!

Yay!

[zappaman]

75. I can't take credit for the phrase, Manny.

But yeah, I figured you'd like it.

[MannyGoldstein]

81. Which part of "found" is incomprehensible? nt

[msanthrope]

117. Well, Manny, do you think the 'found' phrase "race-nagging" is

acceptable?

[senz]

99. Great, great album.

[temporary311]

33. Did I make it?

[img][/img]

[cui bono]

35. While not as fun as the forum, this is particularly fitting for a Hillary support page:

Ultimate Customization:

[IMG][/IMG]

I suspect that the customization evolves too, and yet somehow still remains at least one month behind. My screenshot was taken yesterday but the site thinks it was Aug. 24th.

Me thinks they could do better by paying attention to their own shit rather than making up shit about others.

[SusanCalvin]

44. I thought all that customization stuff

Was hilarious as well. More of that than actual content.

[Tommymac]

66. Hey - the focus group for site design has probably been hired....patience.

Give them a chance to do their job - it takes time to poll and correlate and stuff.

[cui bono]

103. With all that customization it will be easy to 'evolve' the design

along with the candidate's positions.

[polly7]

36. There's a trophy displayed in their brand new foyer ...

so many names I didn't see mine at first, but there it was. I feel so special now.

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[hifiguy]

229. I went once and didn't stay long or see my moniker.

Not going back to look but I will be mildly insulted if I don't get a mention.

Maybe I should repost my discussion of HRH and her buddy War Criminal Henry Kissinger?

[polly7]

252. Awwww .......... I bet you're there already!

That discussion you had would have probably had them scratching in your moniker post haste.

[zappaman]

39. Don't worry Manny.

Your buddies who perpetually host won't lock this.

[cui bono]

42. Well William### thanked Scootaloo for posting a link to the site, and one of the Nance persons

thanked someone else for posting a link to her thread over there, so I don't see why anyone would want this locked. Everyone seems very proud of their nastiness.

[zappaman]

45. Yes, and Nances thread got locked.

But as I said, this one won't.

[cui bono]

49. Again, why would anyone want it to be locked when they are proud of their nastiness?

[zappaman]

50. Gee I dunno.

Cuz it's meta just like the other threads about it?
In fact, even Manny says it will be locked.
But it won't be.

[cui bono]

54. Oh, Manny says so! How long have you considered Manny to be the truthsayer?

OMG.... hillaryclintonsupporters.com has brought too much fun here lately... it's killing me. And making me waste too much time on sillyness!

[zappaman]

55. Always!

And hilarious too!
His third way Manny is positively Dane Cook-Ian!

[MannyGoldstein]

80. As it happens, my wife attended a eulogy given by Dane Cook

Last edited Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:07 PM - Edit history (1)

And further, she was an acquaintance of Taylor Dane in high school. That wasn't her name back then, though. And my wife is part Danish, sort of; it's disputed territory. And did you know that Danes don't call a Danish "a Danish"? They call it "Vienna Bread". What's up with that? And who are the Viennese blaming it on?

But I digress.

[sabrina 1]

176. So since they all hate DU so much, does that mean they will not be coming back? Gee, now we have

two cave-like DU bashing sites on the internet. The similarities are astonishing. The obsession with DUers eg among other things.

Well, I glanced at it, saw it, boring, like the other one, and won't be wasting any more time there. How about you?

[LondonReign2]

342. Greggs posts over in that cesspool? How unastonishing

[Fumesucker]

51. Oh fiddlesticks, is Manny Skinner now?

You need a damn spreadsheet to keep up with the drama in this place.

[zappaman]

56. No, Sid is Skinner.

I am the walrus.

Coo coo ka choo.

[SusanCalvin]

57. .

[sheshe2]

71. Yup~ nt

[gwheezie]

43. Why, why, why won't they lock this thread

Won't someone help out Manny before this gets embarrassing? What if it goes to like 1000 likes?

[MoveIt]

52. they

Them who are they are not us! Are you with me brother? to the ramparts with our pantsuits!

[Divernan]

83. Oh! Oh! Dibs on the prison orange/Kim Jong-un style pantsuit!

[SwampG8r]

46. Ibtl

They are using these threads to alert swarm
Just ignore them they were proud of what they did
All credibility lost forever
We should ask skinner to not do screen name switches after the primaries or they will go back underground here and the cancer will continue to grow
I don't want them to be able to hide here ànymore

[Marty McGraw]

63. But, I go there

and all I feel is such inclusion, warmth & Love.

"When Sanders does not get the nomination (and he won't), his supporters need to be told in no uncertain terms to go away. We don't need them. They're nothing but trouble. Why the hell would we want to embrace a group that we know is going to be nothing but a thorn in our side"

and the virtue of Forgiveness... so strong

[Divernan]

91. They got Clinton spirit, yes they do!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/12/confidants-diary-clinton-wanted-to-keep-records-for-revenge/

First on CNN–Confidant’s diary: Clinton wanted to keep records for ‘revenge'
Posted by
CNN 's Dan Merica, CNN Political Research Director Robert Yoon

Fayetteville, Arkansas (CNN) - Shortly before Hillary Clinton’s effort to pass health care reform died in the summer of 1994, the first lady asked a close friend and confidant for advice on “how best to preserve her general memories of the administration and of health care in particular.”

When asked why, according to the friend’s June 20, 1994, diary entry, Clinton said, “Revenge.”

[Marty McGraw]

110. Whoa, shit

and vindictive - very nixonesque

[sarge43]

294. "We don't need them."

Fine. I've been thrown out of far classier places..

However, might want to rethink that "screw 'em" 'tude. For example, the last four presidential campaigns I've done scut work at the local Dem Hq. My family's motto: Suit up, step up or shut up. If Clinton is nominated, I'll vote for her, but she'll not get one joule of my work or one penny. After all, she doesn't need any. Right?

I am aware that my efforts are at the bottom low level, but millions of efforts can add up. Ground pounders win wars. That's how President Obama won two.

So, dissing potential help is far more important than eight more years of Repug 'administration' because the last eight did wonders for this country and world.

just in case

[libodem]

261. Yep

[jfern]

59. The Washington Post will be posting a story about how deranged they all are

Oh wait, that's not a meme of a certain powerful campaign, and so we won't be getting that story.

[Fawke Em]

76. I don't have time to worry about this

but if I'm mentioned, then, "Yay!"

If I'm not, then, so what?

I'm comfortable in what I post.

[TM99]

78. IBTL

[madaboutharry]

79. Someone posted a Bernie Minion

with red "Bernie" hair and a Hammer and Sickle patch on his overalls. Really? The think Bernie is a Marxist?

[liberal_at_heart]

82. It is quite an eye opener to what some DUers think about what used to be democratic values.

I mean what do these people think about FDR? What do they think about Social Security? What do these people really stand for?

[MannyGoldstein]

86. FDR? LOL!

Quit hating!

[MindfulOne]

128. Is it just me or is this video just a little bit creepy and disturbing?

Aside from the candidate being portrayed-- I mean it just ewwww.

Four stalkerish very young friends with an office shrine and pictures and maps and creepy pins.

"I want your mom and that's the truth".

And, "well-strung"???

[MoveIt]

87. "What do these people really stand for?"

Animated gifs and spite.

[beam me up scottie]

112. It's not surprising they don't know the difference between Marxism and democratic socialism.

The political discourse there is like Free Republic with animated gifs.

All hate and no substance.

[Duppers]

240. Absolutely great description!

They don't let facts or issues get in the way of their preconceived opinions. Just like the closed minded haters at FR.

[MisterP]

257. by 1987 the RWers were saying Reagan was a Commie: they've overused the word so hard

since 1917 that it's lost all meaning whatever

[SMC22307]

279. Well, if 1SBM's timeout leads to comparisons to black Jesus on a cross...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118725529

...they're pretty much capable of believing anything.

[Blue_In_AK]

88. There seems to be a lot more grumbling

than anything else going on there. Too much time on their hands.

[DonCoquixote]

90. IBTL

and it is sad to hear people brag about trying to get Cali hides...really? But there is NO gaming juries on du3 right?

[grasswire]

101. IBTL

Love ya, Manny!

[senz]

107. bmus should be here ...

... it's like dessert and she deserves it.

Thanks for this thread, Manny.

[beam me up scottie]

115. Little late to the party but I made it!

They haven't alert stalked and bullied me into silence like cali.

She'll be back soon enough and unlike the people who targeted her she can hold her head high.




http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=242

[sarge43]

230. Thank you for posting this. Good to know and remember

"....I'm hoping to prod her into her fifth hide."

[beam me up scottie]

231. You're welcome.

That was bad enough but the anti-Semitism is what really infuriated me.

[sarge43]

234. Yes. That is truly disgusting and shameless n/t

[roguevalley]

242. someone ranted that he was talking about income equality, the poor and something else like he has

for 'fifty goddamn years!' If that doesn't tell you what you need to know about them, nothing will. If this offends them then they are incredibly sad.

[polly7]

246. People happy and comfy with the status quo do not like change, no matter how much

they pretend to care about all those things you mention.

They have no interest in real change. Their lives are just fine ........ *ck the rest who are, and have been, vitally affected by all those issues they're making fun of him for caring about - for fifty goddamn years.

They don't need real change themselves, so neither does anyone else. It's obvious.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

108. Commercials on the cheap. Can she afford a new PR firm yet?

[beam me up scottie]

111. You've outdone yourself, Manny!

Bravo!

They are fierce and defiant, dammit!

Stop laughing at them, you're ruining it!

[Renew Deal]

119. Looks like you proved those people correct

Your trademark harassment campaign is on.

[TM99]

144. Really?

So show me please anywhere in this thread where we have called Clinton supporters racists, cult followers, communists, etc.

Show me anywhere in this thread where we have made anti-Semitic remarks like these or something comparable like sexism towards Clinton.

http://web.archive.org/web/20150924080750/http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=559

Show me anywhere in this thread where we have made racist comments like this.

Clinton supporters who left to join an actual website that supports DEMOCRATS are like escaped slaves during the civil war and you guys are like their former slave masters.

OK, that was in this thread but it was from a Hillary Clinton supporter defending the bullshit over there.

This mocking and humorous thread is not harassment. The shit posted at that site and the support for it here is.

[liberal_at_heart]

200. They remind me a bit of the Christians who say they are having their freedom taken away.

For years and years I have been hounded on DU told I must vote for the most electable Democrat. Told I must vote for whoever wins the nominee. Blamed if the Republicans win an election, but now they are the ones who are being persecuted?

[gwheezie]

204. Or a thread that hopes it gets locked

And isn't

[Scuba]

120. Interesting that their pictures all show Hillary fading away, just like her campaign!

[Capt. Obvious]

121. The fact that this thread is not locked

Proves that the admins are secretly in the bag for Bernie the purple dinosaur.

Hillarymojo? Sham.

Clinton supporters who left to join an actual website that supports DEMOCRATS are like escaped slaves during the civil war and you guys are like their former slave masters.

[hootinholler]

129. "an actual website that supports DEMOCRATS"

I agree with the actual website part.

Seems like it's more a hate fest against Bernie supporters here than supporting DEMOCRATS.

[TM99]

141. Did you really just post this?

Clinton supporters who left to join an actual website that supports DEMOCRATS are like escaped slaves during the civil war and you guys are like their former slave masters.

Y'all are like escaped slaves and Sanders supporters are like slave masters?

Do you not realize how utterly racist and hyperbolic that is?

Do you not realize that y'all are not actually victims of anything even remotely comparable to the blight that is slavery. In fact, y'all are not victim at all except in your own minds?

I am not going to alert on you. That isn't my style.

But I am calling you out for the racist bullshit that this is! Get a god damned grip on reality, take a deep breath, and get some fucking perspective.

[Scootaloo]

281. It's a reference to some stupid shit they posted over there

Where it was claimed - just as he said - that they're like escaped slaves and we're the angry slaveowners.

Capt. Obvious is mocking it, not joining it. Don't let the ^H fool you - they're not all Tom Cruise Crazy

[TM99]

286. Thanks for clarifying.

Mocking and sarcasm don't always come across in the written form very well.

I sadly have become suspect of anyone sporting the right ward H.

[HereSince1628]

152. Perfect.

Bookmarked.

[Duppers]

272. You agree with that?

[HereSince1628]

290. I said it's 'perfect'. Perfect can be applied to a lot of things

Including a great example of how bad things are.

[Duppers]

291. Thanks.

Sometimes I can be obtuse.

[rhett o rick]

263. LOL. The H. Clinton supporters joined a website where no one would ask embarassing

questions like "where does your candidate stand on issues". They don't care because they will follow her no matter what she stands for.

[SMC22307]

285. Oh, please please please, share who offered up that last little gem.

Mahalo~
sleepynva

[NCTraveler]

122. Must be one of those issue driven ops I keep hearing about.

Why talk about Sanders fighting adamantly against a pathway to citizenship for over ten million people. Why talk about Sanders campaigning for Schumlin and receiving two commission appointments for his wife from the governor as political favors. Why talk about Sanders voting time and time again to fund foreign armies.

Nope. You guys are issue driven. Let's talk about a website.

[beam me up scottie]

123. A site whose members are anti-Semitic alert stalkers.

That's an issue I'm concerned about but ymmv.

You thanked them for the invite, did you join them?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=621333

[NCTraveler]

125. You are currently posting on a site...

Where racist, anti-Semitic, bigoted, and sexist remarks have stood. I'm not stupid enough to make that a blanket statement about you. There is currently a member here with post after post calling AA's racists. Those posts are left to stand and I don't think it says anything about your character. Not sure why you think it does. Then again you have insinuated I am a racist and anti-Semitic and have never backed up your insinuations. Maybe those other posts do say something more about your character and I'm the one that is wrong. I really don't think so. Unlike you, I believe the first post I mentioned aren't a direct reflection of you.

Once again, this must be the issues I keep hearing about. Better than talking about Sanders fighting relentlessly against a pathway to citizenship for over ten million people. You know he teamed up with the most vile of republicans to ensure they wouldn't pass the bill? Pretty bad form putting economics ahead of the oppression of over ten million.

[beam me up scottie]

127. You mean the white HC supporters calling Cornel West a racist?

Yes that is pretty messed up. Have you discussed this with them?

And how do you feel about the disgusting anti-Semitism at that website?

You still haven't condemned it, with is that?

Do you despise Bernie so much that you think accusing him of being funded by Israel is acceptable?

I personally abhor all bigotry.

[NCTraveler]

133. That isn't what I mean. You already know that as you have the links.

Everything here you have not condemned I can go ahead and assume you support? You really don't see how foolish that line of thought is, do you? Lol

Fact is you would much rather talk about this than Sanders recent opposition to a path to citizenship. The political family favors he has received. A known failed military project he fought for. Numerous votes to arm armies that aren't friendly to anyone.

Really bad form to claim when someone doesn't talk bad about random things on random sites that they then must support them. Not a single honest thought goes into that thought process.

[beam me up scottie]

134. So you're only outraged when certain people call AAs racists?

Tsk. That's quite the double standard you have there.

I wish I could say I'm surpised.

Like I said, I have no problem condemning all bigotry so claiming I "support" it after I said so is absurd.

[NCTraveler]

136. "So you're only outraged when certain people call AAs racists?"

That is completely made up in your mind. Link to back up your wild assumption.

You keep making these insinuations about me and then never back them up. All while I state that every post from Sanders supporters isn't a direct reflection of you. I wish you would really think about that for a moment. Have a good day. You have been very dishonest in your approach with me. Running around insinuating people are racist and anti-Semitic without one single shred of evidence really is a statement of character. You really should stop it. This will be the last time I reply to any of your completely fabricated insinuations.

[beam me up scottie]

139. I'm just asking questions like you are about Bernie.

Why does he hate immigrants, love war and cooerce people into hiring his wife anyway?

[upaloopa]

135. They seem to be flattered if thier name appears at hillaryclintonsupporters.com

So I suggest that for every one of them who makes a $50 donation to Hillary's campaign we will mention their name at hillaryclintonsupporters.com Of course we must see the receipt, not that we feel they lack integrity.

[beam me up scottie]

137. I think we should make a donation to the SPLC every time someone posts something anti-Semitic there.

That would go a long way towards fighting bigotry.

[Lucky Luciano]

138. Are you referring to the unpaid commission appointments? nt

[NCTraveler]

140. Not sure.

I'm talking about Sanders campaigning for Shumlin, then in short order, Shumlin appoints Sanders wife to two commissioner position. I never made the claim they were paid or unpaid. That aspect is not necessary to see the blatant cronyism.

Do you have links showing both of these positions are unpaid. I do think it would be fair for me to add that to my comments if it is factual though it has no bearing on the blatant cronyism. Thanks.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

214. You made the claim of a cushy position. You got it handed to you.

Get back to me at the very earliest opportunity you're able to actually back your claims. Truth is the coin of the realm, sport. Everything else is vomit.

[sabrina 1]

361. You mean like people taking Corporate Donations, then the CEOs of those companies, Monsanto eg, get

cabinet positions where they can influence our government on behalf of their Corporations? Not that anyone would ever do appoint people who campaigned for them to Diplomatic positions, Ambassadorships eg, because that would look like cronyism no?

No one who gives our candidates huge amounts of money want a dinky little job in a college, they want WAY more than that AND they get it. Saw it first hand re my job.

Maybe you're okay with all the Corporate CEOs we have in a Dem cabinet, but your comment leads me to believe you are not, you must be very upset about all those Ambassadorships then, and Cabinet appointments. Not sure a College job can influence our Government, but Cabinet positions sure can and do.

[NCTraveler]

362. I'm glad you aren't willing to justify cronyism. Nt

[sabrina 1]

365. Never have, but I'm not sure where you stand on it, since you haven't said.

[99Forever]

126. Got to get me some IBTL too.

Thanks brother Manny!

[MindfulOne]

130. I rubbed a dab of IBTL on my bunions and they went away.

I'm gonna stock up on my IBTL this weekend!

[Buns_of_Fire]

363. IBTL -- It's a tasty breath mint AND a suppository!

AND a floor wax AND a dessert topping! What can IBTL do for YOU?

Warning: Do not taunt IBTL.

[demmiblue]

132. I wonder where they keep The Bern Book?

[cantbeserious]

142. "I Believe In The Good Things Coming" - Go Bernie Go

[haikugal]

187. Oh my! Thanks for the introduction....wonderful! n/t

[Major Nikon]

143. Results...

On Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:10 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Hurry! Get IBTL!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251623308

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This post is rude and over the top. It does not follow the SOP of this forum, yet the hosts have decided to let it stay. It's also META, yet the hosts have allowed it to stay. This thread is nothing but stalking.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:18 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is truly sad that the Hillary Groupies are so thin skinned that any mention of one of their fan web sites puts them in a frothing tither. The Hillary Groupies are just as bad as Right-wing groupies. And therein lies their problem; they are unable to see their candidate and themselves as the cultist leader and cultist followers that they have become. Many, do not want a Cult leader and certainly do not want their groupies browbeating all others daily. Go back to your website http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/ and stay out of DU.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alert fail on a biblical scale.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh--it can stay as far as I'm concerned. Personally, I appreciate the publicity.
Especially from the esteemed third way Manny! Although, if this is the most fun up you've had in years, that's well--a little sad.

Ismnotwasm, proud member of hillarysupporters.com. And a proud member of democraticunderground.com.

[MannyGoldstein]

145. Yes, Juror #7, it *is* sad.

Although I did write months, not years. What's even sadder is that you mistook me for my idiot Third-Way cousin. That's on me, I should have been clearer.

But you're welcome for the publicity. You've earned every last bit of it.

[ismnotwasm]

156. Thank you!

I know we have have, and it's great. And I do apologize for the 'years' mistake. Months. Gotcha.

[MineralMan]

146. Sad, Manny.

Just sad.

[MannyGoldstein]

148. My OP?

Or that delicious site?

[SwampG8r]

170. When you align yourself with a candidate

You also align yourself with their supporters
Someone said that recently......

[MineralMan]

171. Someone also said this:

I oppose anyone who calls any of the candidates racists, anti-semites, or any other vile name. Whether they do it on DU or on any other website, they are simply wrong. Among the Democratic primary candidates, there are no racists, no anti-semites, no homophobes, and no other type of bigot. Anyone who suggests that any of the Democratic candidates is a bigot in any way is simply wrong and trying to spread vile lies.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=624341

[beam me up scottie]

180. So you're aware of the anti-Semitism being posted by DUers at that website?

And why so many of us are so upset by it?

[MineralMan]

183. Only second-hand. I have no reason to visit any

website, and won't. My political forum is DU. There are all sorts of websites out there spewing all sorts of vile nonsense. There are many individuals spewing vile nonsense, too. Nothing will change that. What DUers post elsewhere is stuff I'm not ever going to see. What people post here is my concern.

I'm not interested in following DUers to other websites. I've had people do that to me, looking for stuff they can use against me at sites I haven't been on for many, many years. I find such behavior to be ugly and useless. So I don't do that. Many DUers post at other places on the Internet. That's up to them. I don't follow people around the Internet.

Moreover, when I find threads on DU where someone is following DUers around the Internet, I don't read beyond the OP of the thread. I find the whole process objectionable. If someone posts vile stuff on DU and I see it, I will respond to it. What they post elsewhere is of no interest to me, and I don't have the time to follow up on what someone says about what was posted.

You will do as you please, of course. We all have agency over our actions.

[beam me up scottie]

185. Well the evidence is there for all to see, if you choose to dismiss it that's up to you.

If DUers are posting bigotry anywhere I think it's better that we know about it.

[MineralMan]

188. You should do what you think best. I will do the same.

I've already told you that I don't follow DUers around on the Internet. I'm not about to start doing it, either. ONe thing to consider: Anyone can log onto another site on the Internet and assume someone else's screen name. It's happened many times. I focus on one discussion forum on politics. This one.

[beam me up scottie]

191. The site administrator was bragging about how proud they were of those posts here the other night.

You can dismiss it but I won't.

[MineralMan]

193. You know what? You don't get what I said.

I do not go to other sites, following people. I simply do not. I have no idea what "site administrator" you're talking about. The only site administrators I follow are Skinner, EarlG, and Elad, the administrators of this website. You are not listening to me. This is the political discussion forum I visit - the only one. Further, I do not read threads where discussions of other websites are taking place. So, you're talking about things I know nothing about, nor want to know about.

I haven't even read this thread. I posted in it from the OP and have only read and replied to posts connected to that reply. I choose what I read on DU, just like everyone else does.

[beam me up scottie]

194. You're in a THREAD about THAT website COMPLAINING about it.

And now you're admitting you know NOTHING and want to know NOTHING about what it is you're complaining about.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[polly7]

178. :(

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

Lighten up, Mineral Man! (Or have you been called out and lied about, too? In which case ..... sorry - but it's still funny as hell when you think about it)

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[sabrina 1]

306. It is sad. But not in the least bit surprising that the DU bashing site exists. One visit was enough

for most DUers, like the cave, it's best left to its own boring devices. But sad is a good word for people who can't get along with others and who deceive others for whatever reason.

Can't imagine pretending to be something I am not for any reason, but it takes all kinds I guess.

[HereSince1628]

149. Visiting there reminds me of the Outer Limits introduction

they have taken control of what we view. The horizontal and the vertical.

Which is why "THE PROBLEM" with DU's GD is Sanders supporters.

[sabrina 1]

179. It reminded me of the Cave!

[HereSince1628]

181. If you mean CC, it doesn't remind me of that...they just mock us

they never really seemed interested in developing a swarm system to alert bomb.

[sabrina 1]

184. Well you have a point. That's kind of worse in many ways.

[Bobbie Jo]

151. Nah, no locks here

We all know how this works.

It's covered.

[ismnotwasm]

160. It's all good

I don't even play here in GD-P and I'm kicking this thread UP

But my sense of humor is irony rich

[Bobbie Jo]

163. It is what it is

No sense in pretending otherwise anymore.

Kick

[zappaman]

161. Of course not.

But an IDENTICAL post by a poster they DON'T care for?
They'll twist themselves into pretzels justifying why it MUST be locked.
So obvious, the names don't even have to be mentioned.
Neat tRICK, eh?

[Bobbie Jo]

166. Lather, rinse, repeat,

repeat, etc...

It is what it is...

Kick

[roguevalley]

243. rhey didn't lock the outing themselves as racists thread so I think this funny

chat will last. I hope it does. Manny is funny and hillarysupporters need more to do with their rages. Time will tell who wins. Bernie all the way.

[Bobbie Jo]

254. Sorry, no

It is what it is. I've seen it in action, as have others in the host forum.

One resigned last week because of it.

And no, Manny is not funny in the least.

Time will tell, indeed.

Kick

[MannyGoldstein]

258. Manny is a sad little man. A half-man.

A bitter, enraged homunculus, face red, arms flailing, spittle spraying. Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Even stealing stuff from Shakespeare without correct attribution.

Listens to sketchy music by The Beatles about men choosing partners for "doing it" based upon their looks.

When we finally have the correct President, Manny will at long last get what he deserves.

[Bobbie Jo]

260. Meh

The third person thing you do is kinda Bob Dole-ish.

http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=27322

Not a fan, sorry..

[sheshe2]

331. I saw what you did there. :)

[JoePhilly]

153. Thanks for the link, I had not seen that site before.

[LondonReign2]

344. You'll enjoy it.

In there, no one will laugh when you say a President Clinton will get the House GOP, which voted 54 times to kill the ACA, to EXPAND it. In fact, you'll probably get a lot of head bobbing.

[JoePhilly]

348. I will. I enjoy many political discussion forums.

As for what you think about my view on the ACA, and how it might be improved, I honestly could not care less. From what I've seen you post, your views on politics aren't worth much to begin with.

You wrote a silly OP with a BS premise. I critiqued it as such. Whether you agree with me or not does not effect me in the slightest.

I do get the sense that you think Bernie will be able to Bully Pulpit the GOP into supporting Medicare for All.

Good luck with that.

[LondonReign2]

359. I'll give you this, you are fantastic at name-calling and attempting to be dismissive

Emphasis on 'attempting'.

I'll also give you this: you are the only Hillary supporter who could even attempt to come up with one thing Hillary could "get done". The fact that is was 'might get the House GOP, who have attempted to repeal the ACA 54 times, to vote to EXPAND it' puts the nail in the 'Bernie won't get anything done' talking point.

[morningfog]

169. Fuck that cesspool of hate. Nasty lot there.

[SMC22307]

210. Perhaps it's the hair dye.

An entire thread was devoted to sassy new short hairdos, dyed to cover up the gray. Perhaps one of the products in Hillary's goofy Thx Boxes?

[Hortensis]

303. "Fuck that cesspool of hate. Nasty lot there." :)

[Ed Suspicious]

177. My candidate has finally arrived!

My ideas of good governance finally have traction!

The discovery of that site has absolutely made my week!

[MrMickeysMom]

189. I K&R this...

… but, Manny…. Why would I want to "go" to that sight? I'd have to register there.

Now, I'm gonna so listen to a little Velvet….

[Metric System]

190. Why hasn't this thread been locked yet?!? Hey, maybe that's one of many reasons why Hillary

supporters have had to go elsewhere.

[HereSince1628]

197. Or the mods are off doing errands in the real world

Seems that lots of post have longer lives than might be expected and they ultimately get shot down hours later.

Look at this positively. It is an opportunity to get to know people and build your I.L.

[Hortensis]

218. Maybe they're letting some just blow off and show themselves off in

these threads.

Notice how much longer hostile threads are than good news about Bernie? And those are always about how the "cause" is doing. Looking forward to him actually winning the presidency...no.

“Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe.”
― Theodore Roosevelt

[polly7]

198. Why should it be?

Last edited Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Supporters of any candidate here have always been allowed to post from other sites in which their candidate (or any candidate - and his/her supporters) is being shit-slimed or discussed. Why is this one any different, is it special because DU'ers are running it?

[zappaman]

199. Why should it be?

It pays to have friends as hosts who only show up to host when they can say "strong leave" when it comes to their buddies OPs.

[MoveIt]

201. ROFL

[Metric System]

205. I'm not a member of that site. The point is this thread is off-topic. Even the OP assumed it would

be locked. I guess he forgot about all his friends in charge of GDP.

[sibelian]

317. I think we can take hillarysupporters.com as a strong indicator of Hillary's future success.

After all, we're supposed to take Bernie's supporters as an indicator of his aren't we?

Well, then.

As hillarysupporters.com is an independent site frequented by people that support Hillary and a candidate's supporters are supposed to be taken as pertinent information regarding the candidate, I think we can make the same assumptions about the kind of person Hillary must be from her supporters as we are all frequently told we can make about Bernie from the qualities of his.

Unless the idea that a candidate's qualities are relatable to those of their supporters is a really headcrackingly fucking stupid idea, of course, which observation you are, of course, free to make.

In either case, the thread isn't "off-topic" at all, unless every single thread ever posted here about Bernie Sanders supporters is also off topic.

So, there you go.

[Bobbie Jo]

202. LOL

Just go to the top of the GDP page and click on the "about" tab.

Your answer lies within...

Kick!

[Metric System]

207. Oh, now I see why. Hosts should enforce the rules equally regardless of who they support or who they

are friends with.

[LondonReign2]

345. Well that, and having no interest in discussing issues

[gwheezie]

206. Whew, I just made

I was assured this thread would be locked by now.
I'm positive the not locking of this thread is some diabolical false flag ops by HRC supporters just to make poor Bernie supporters look like whining babies in a political forum.
I on the other hand expect to get a hide because I didn't call someone an anti semite
Of course I also could be playing the ropa dope.
Let's see how this goes. Please don't hide me.
I mean it.

[MoveIt]

295. Is it comfy up on that cross?

#martyr #heroism #hrc #readyforhill #fakememes

[gwheezie]

307. I think this whole thread is funny

It starts with a breathless prediction that it's going to be locked, omg. And it's still here.
To be clear, I don't find antisemitism funny but this thread is.
Don't hide me, bro.

[NCTraveler]

209. IBTL?

It's an echo chamber with a bunch of back slappers. Who is going to lock it? Lol

[marym625]

213. K&R!

What ever floats there boat. From what I've seen here about it, looks like a Facebook group for trolls. It's SO yesterday!

Glad they're bringing enjoyment to each other and to so many here.

We all need to laugh. The show must go on!

[one_voice]

217. I took a break from DU because I was assaulted...

I come back to fucking romper room. Where the fuck are the adults?

[cyberswede]

225. Hold the phone...you were physically assaulted in RL?

Horrible! Good lord!

[Hortensis]

304. We're around.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

220. This thread is enlightening...

The same people who tut tut at internet bullies from a perch of self assigned righteousness and all...

[magical thyme]

292. seriously. Our 2nd thread dedicated to the shock of learning that posters some of us thought of as

friends are trashing us elsewhere.

So shocking as compared to, say, multiple threads, not to mention an entire forum tucked away, dedicated to Grumbling about us. Not to mention whining about Skinner -- who provides this forum for all of us, free of charge if we can stand the ads, and created an apparently totally neglected Web page dedicated to Hillary.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

293. That actually goes back to my musings on the virtues of street smarts versus book smarts.

That actually goes back to my musing on the virtues of street smarts versus book smarts. Why, pray tell, would you believe anonymous posters on an internet message board are your friends, ergo:

Our 2nd thread dedicated to the shock of learning that posters some of us thought of as friends are trashing us elsewhere.

If the rules were less different posters would be trashing one another right here. Oh, wait they already do.

[MissDeeds]

226. Wow. Thanks Manny

K&R

and bookmarked

[WillyT]

232. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[OnyxCollie]

235. IBTL.

The identity of the intelligentsia leading the sheep is as comical as it is predictable.

[Mnpaul]

241. Recc'ed for the music selection

Well, at least the first three. The Hillaryroll spoiled an otherwise excellent selection.

I give it a 9.

[Enthusiast]

267. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

[MannyGoldstein]

276. And thank you!

[sarge43]

289. Thank you, Manny

Very enlightening thread. Caught 'em with their pants around their ankles.

[reddread]

277. IBTL

[mainstreetonce]

326. I tried to join

But I never got an email confirmation. I used a diifferent name. I only use this name here.

[MindfulOne]

335. I had an account but they banned me yesterday. I never posted.

And they've hidden the Public Pub page and cleaned up the other still visible pages.

Scrubbed, in true fashion.

Disgusting things being said and done on that site.

Very disturbed individuals, maybe they're just Freepers using DU member names.

[WillyT]

336. Hey Manny... I Don't Want To Register... But Do I Have A Mention ??? - I'd Be So Proud !!!

[MannyGoldstein]

338. I think I did see you mentioned

But now that the thing's locked down, I can't find it.

[polly7]

346. I'm pretty sure I saw you mentioned there too!

[AgingAmerican]

337. I just went and looked

I have my own thread there!

My badge of honor.

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=831

[MannyGoldstein]

339. Very, very impressive

[Capt. Obvious]

343. If I were Skinner I'd take that person's advice

Who better to know who the trolls are that need to be banned than someone on vacation.

[AgingAmerican]

350. I'm disappointed

I Was hoping they would have posted a few links of 'evidence'. I love watching them play their word salad/mental gymnastics.

[AgingAmerican]

351. Their 'Issues' forum is dead as a doornail

Only three threads lol. Apparently some things are best left alone. You know, like issues and stuff?



You are right Manny, it's very entertaining. It's also very telling.

[SMC22307]

356. Their #blacklivesmatter forum is up to a whopping TEN topics now.

Wonder how many more are devoted to how sucky DUers were during the debacle brought on by the Seattle white tears sippers.

[Maedhros]

352. I perused a few posts there with "Bernie" in the title, just to see for myself.

Man, those posters are cripplingly ignorant.

[Electric Monk]

366. IBTL

[Electric Monk]

367. (kick)

[Electric Monk]

372. ^

[Darb]

368. DU becomes even more unreadable.

Nice going. Jeb is pleased.

[TSIAS]

370. One of their original, "classier" members

"BernieBaggers - as dumb as a brick, and twice as thick."

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1451&p=13671#p13671

I guess this is where people go when they are sent away for breaking DU rules.

[MannyGoldstein]

371. Holy @#$%

I figgered they were thinking those things... and now we know!

[cui bono]

373. kicking because it doesn't matter how long ago pure hatred is spewed.