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The enemy of my enemy is my friend (Original Post) upaloopa Sep 2015 OP
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #1
Just remember, empowering enemies means big blow-back. Hortensis Sep 2015 #27
The way lies get propagated on this board makes me wonder sometimes liberal N proud Sep 2015 #2
I don't wonder. I'd say at least 1/3 would not vote oasis Sep 2015 #6
At least one-third ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #21
Some people say that's typical of cult behavior Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #23
What is typical ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #30
Exactly nt Andy823 Sep 2015 #33
Us Democrats have what it takes to prevail here at DU, and beyond. oasis Sep 2015 #25
-I- think a lot of people talk a good game...and will be pulling the D lever next November. brooklynite Sep 2015 #31
Republicans are talking about Hillary's pro-war record? daleanime Sep 2015 #3
You still sad Bernie supporters talk about issues? Autumn Sep 2015 #4
There no issue talked about more than bashing Clinton with RW propaganda. As proven daily. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #5
The RW didn't twist Hillary arm to make her do what she chose to do with her email. . Autumn Sep 2015 #7
Sure. Just like "it was her fault" for making Bgazhi an issue? If that is what one believes. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #8
Bgazhi was a RW smear, Hillary's email and her handling of it was an issue of her own making. Autumn Sep 2015 #12
Some questions are fair game, the speculation and breathless outrages over daily zilch are....zilch. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #17
IMO the email issue is a real but probably minor one. hifiguy Sep 2015 #18
I agree with you on both, but when it come's up I will feel free to discuss it. Autumn Sep 2015 #19
It's just another reflection of her arrogance hifiguy Sep 2015 #20
Telling the truth about what happened is not supporting a Repub scandal. Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #9
+10000 nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #22
You won't shame that bunch into doing what they know is right. oasis Sep 2015 #10
The right wing media is trying to bring her down. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #11
It's not cool for government officials to do public business on personal email servers. Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #13
What the hell are you saying? Snap the Turtle Sep 2015 #14
The enemy of my enemy LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #15
Yawn x2 cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #16
" The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is a Mafia dictum. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #24
No Shit. It's pathetic. Darb Sep 2015 #26
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" so... Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #28
Care to share ANY reference here to someone "hating" Bernie Sanders? brooklynite Sep 2015 #32
I agree Andy823 Sep 2015 #34
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more nor less. n/t Decoy of Fenris Sep 2015 #29

Response to upaloopa (Original post)

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
2. The way lies get propagated on this board makes me wonder sometimes
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 02:19 PM
Sep 2015

I wonder just who or where some of the posters come from.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
21. At least one-third ...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:15 PM
Sep 2015

... at this point, probably more than that.

The same posters who have talked trash about the Dem Party since joining are still doing it. The same people who posted nothing but anti-Obama posts now post nothing but anti-HRC posts.

There are people here who have never posted anything positive about any Democrat.

Funny how you always see DUers saying, "If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck ...," but supposedly never see the ducks among them.

And now DU is full of alleged BS supporters - who use that alleged supporter status to trash Hillary (and every Dem who supports her) as cover for doing so on a "Democratic" board.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
30. What is typical ...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 05:14 PM
Sep 2015

... of cult behaviour is immediately embracing someone who you believe is on your side solely because they profess to have an enemy in common with you.

A lot of RW trolls were accepted as True Progressives (TM) here simply because they posted the same anti-Obama screeds that the progressier-than-thous posted. "You cant stand Obama, too? You must be one of us!"

Remember BetterBelieveIt? He posted anti-Obama/anti-Dem bullshit for over three years and 18,000 posts - and was declared a "true progressive voice" by the PTTs - until he let his guard down and was outed as what he'd been all along: a RW troll.

Pretending to be a BS supporter here provides great cover for bashing the front-runner, any Dem who supports her, and the Party as a whole, while maintaining one's board cred as a "Democrat".

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
3. Republicans are talking about Hillary's pro-war record?
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 02:23 PM
Sep 2015

I think I just hurt my jaw.


Is there anything else that they are making sense about? Or is that an isolated item?

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
7. The RW didn't twist Hillary arm to make her do what she chose to do with her email. .
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:41 PM
Sep 2015

So I don't consider any discussion over that to be RW propaganda. I'm positive she did nothing wrong but she made that an issue, no one else .

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Sure. Just like "it was her fault" for making Bgazhi an issue? If that is what one believes.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:43 PM
Sep 2015

EGazhi = BGazhi.

Brought to by the same folks.

And some new ones lately.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
12. Bgazhi was a RW smear, Hillary's email and her handling of it was an issue of her own making.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:52 PM
Sep 2015

If you have issues with Democrats discussing it, take it up with Hillary.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027209985

The Democratic frontrunner said such questions are “fair game” and that she takes full responsibility for the controversy.
“It was my choice,” Clinton said. “It was a mistake back when I did it, and I’m trying to do the best I can to answer all of the questions that people have.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. Some questions are fair game, the speculation and breathless outrages over daily zilch are....zilch.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:57 PM
Sep 2015

Supporting RW zilch at DU used to be avoided, not cheered.

And now that the Howdy Gowdy Get Clinton Kanagaroo Court is in session, who will be cheering for that bit of sophistry to again try to take down the overwhelming favorite to win the WH for a single party for an unprecedented 3rd straight term?

Bengazhi, Phase 2.

Who will cheer?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. IMO the email issue is a real but probably minor one.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:01 PM
Sep 2015

Benghazi has never been anything but RWNJ bullshit.

I have never mentioned either in my strong criticisms of Clinton. There are plenty of real issues on which she is a complete failure and I stick to those.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
19. I agree with you on both, but when it come's up I will feel free to discuss it.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:05 PM
Sep 2015

I think it shows a problem with her judgment, she knows just what the republicans do and how they do it. She gave them a gift to go after her with. She knew better and she did it anyway.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. It's just another reflection of her arrogance
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:09 PM
Sep 2015

not a huge one, but it does reflect badly on her judgment.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
9. Telling the truth about what happened is not supporting a Repub scandal.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:44 PM
Sep 2015

If your candidate can't stand up to the truth, how will she/he stand up to the lies that the GOP slime machine will roll out for the General Election?


If your candidate is so weak that the truth hurts, then maybe you should consider a different candidate.



oasis

(49,381 posts)
10. You won't shame that bunch into doing what they know is right.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

They have no problem holding Hillary to a standard they blatantly ignore.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. The right wing media is trying to bring her down.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:50 PM
Sep 2015

Absolutely nothing new about it and we all know about it. The only difference between the right wing media and many of the posts here? The right wing media offers page six retractions. There are no retractions here for the dishonesty.

There is zero difference in promoting the email thing and promoting Gowdy. Those promoting it are his supporters. No difference.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
13. It's not cool for government officials to do public business on personal email servers.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:53 PM
Sep 2015

I don't know why on this earth anybody would defend that.

It's not a republican scandal. It's just a case that shows the arrogance of power and how some people think they don't have to follow the rules.

It could have caused a serious problem. Also they keep changing the story making like they are trying to cover it up.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
15. The enemy of my enemy
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:55 PM
Sep 2015


[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]Though in seriousness, I don't support using bull scandals to support my candidate. I just like focusing on the issues.

I also don't believe in using false dichotomy fallacies either.

Peace.

Edit: Beside, the other democratic candidates are not my candidate's enemies, but rather rivals.[/font]
 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
26. No Shit. It's pathetic.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:29 PM
Sep 2015

I like Bernie, but come on Bernie's people, quit taking cues from the Baggers. WTF?

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
28. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" so...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:34 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary supporters are now "friends"
with the right-wingers in their
hate for Bernie and his minions?

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
32. Care to share ANY reference here to someone "hating" Bernie Sanders?
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 05:18 PM
Sep 2015

...because finding someone who hates Hillary Clinton would be very easy.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
34. I agree
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:25 PM
Sep 2015

Nobody here hates Bernie, it's some of the phony self proclaimed Bernie supporters that people don't like, and they are pretty easy to spot if one really wants to see them.

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