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[BlueJazz]

1. No and not going to happen for several years/decades.

[Ron Green]

2. What a bullshit post.

Yeah, voters "overcame racism" just enough to elect Obama president. He's certainly not saying the bigger issue is accomplished.

What kind of childish game is this?

[ibegurpard]

3. same game there been playing since he announced

[HooptieWagon]

6. Yep. Hillary campaigned for Goldwater, who voted against Civil Rights Act.

Perhaps OP would like to discuss that?

[MuseRider]

9. The usual.

When I read it, without seeing who are why this was posted, I thought in my own head that yes this was a good thing. Race was overcome (at least partially) to elect Obama. I never in my wildest thoughts thought that he meant we were moving on we were done with that. No one who knows what is happening in this country would ever say that. No one.

[litlbilly]

24. Hillary people are getting desperate. They behave like RW hate radio. totally predictable

[MindfulOne]

31. You took the words right out of my mouth.

they should add a "bullshit" option to the poll.

[uhnope]

37. Agreed. "It's the Internet" as they say. Invented for flamebaiting BS out-of-context smearing use of

lies

[840high]

55. down below I posted what

Sanders said.

[Comrade Grumpy]

66. Yup. Stinkin' up the joint and getting justly hammered for it, too. n/t

[HooptieWagon]

4. Shall we post selectively edited old quotes from Hillary?

[jfern]

13. Her quotes are so bad there's no need to selectively edit them

[HooptieWagon]

17. True that. "Hard working white people". Nt

[upaloopa]

16. That has already been done

[portlander23]

5. Racism remains alive today

Yes, I agree with Mr. Sanders.

[Armstead]

44. Hush. Don't interrupt the OP's race baiting with the facts

[jfern]

7. He didn't say there isn't racism

The previous month he said this.

"I’m not saying racism doesn’t — is not there. It certainly is."
http://billmoyers.com/2014/10/30/sanders-richmond-speech/

Enough grasping for straws, Sanders never said racism ended. These attacks on Sanders are ridiculous.

[seaotter]

8. I, too am proud that this nation overcame racism to elect Obama President.

I, much like Bernie , do not believe that this country has "overcome racism" CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING !

Do you agree with Hillary that her Iraq War vote was warranted by the information she had at the time?

Silliness begets silliness.

[Renew Deal]

10. I thought he meant in this one instance

[HerbChestnut]

14. He did...

This is just a rile up post. Or at worst it's an attempt to make Bernie appear racist again.

[HooptieWagon]

18. That's exactly what it is.

Time to send another donation to Bernie.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

20. Yeah, that was my take as well.

I don't think there is a chance in HELL Sanders thinks the country is truly and widely free of racism.

[Scootaloo]

54. Yup.

[beam me up scottie]

11. Bernie Sanders: "WE ARE FAR FROM ERADICATING RACISM"

Sanders: Charleston Shooting Reminder Of 'Ugly Stain Of Racism' In US

Presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) on Thursday condemned the shooting at a historically black church in Charleston, S.C. as a "tragic reminder of the ugly stain of racism" tainting America.

"This senseless violence fills me with outrage, disgust and a deep, deep sadness," Sanders tweeted.

In a longer statement, the Democratic presidential contender said the killings, which were blamed on a white suspect whose victims included state Sen. Clementa Pinckney (D), showed that the U.S. had a long way to go in escaping its history of racial violence.

"The hateful killing of nine people praying inside a church is a horrific reminder that, while we have made significant progress in advancing civil rights in this country, we are far from eradicating racism," he said.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and their congregation," Sanders added.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/charleston-shooting-bernie-sanders-racism

Sanders denounces racism, divisive politics of Trump in address to La Raza

U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016, addressed the annual convention of the National Council of La Raza on July 13, calling for comprehensive immigration reform and denouncing those who would divide Americans over race and national origin.

...

While “racism has plagued the United States since its inception,” Sanders said the nation has advanced. “We should be proud that in recent decades we have made real progress,” he said. But he cautioned that voices of division remain and must be forcefully rejected.

“Not Donald Trump, not anyone else will be successful in dividing us based on race or on our country of origin. America becomes a greater nation, a stronger nation, when we stand together as one people and in a loud and clear voice we say no to racism and bigotry,” Sanders said.

http://www.wisconsingazette.com/political/sanders-denounces-racism-divisive-politics-of-trump-in-address-to-la-raza.html

Bernie doesn't think we've overcome racism at all.


But thanks for playing!

[AtomicKitten]

23. Truth slaps distortion upside the head.

Thank you.

[beam me up scottie]

25. Yes it does!

You're welcome!

[Smarmie Doofus]

12. Do you really want the rest of your contributions to the DU conversation to be tainted...

... by the intellectual dishonesty you've succumbed to by mischaracterizing Sanders' observation in the context of this stupid poll?

Do us all a favor; esp yourself: : self-delete this.

>>>Well, here's what you got. What you got is an African-American president, and the African-American community is very, very proud that this country has overcome racism and voted for him for president. And that's kind of natural. You've got a situation where the Republican Party has been strongly anti-immigration, and you've got a Hispanic community which is looking to the Democrats for help.>>>

[restorefreedom]

19. +100000 nt

[upaloopa]

15. It is my opinion that what people said in the past

was meant for the period in which they were said. Out of context statements from years ago by Bernie or Hillary mean very little to me today.

[think]

21. You are taking one quote and twisting it. Thanks for playing dirty.

Bernie was referring only to overcoming racism enough to see the election of of Obama happen and not to racism overall .

You should really know that if you have followed anything at all AND did even a little research before posting this.

So please consider pulling this bullshit poll and STOP playing dirty.

He has stated multiple times that we have a long way to go.

From September 27th on Bernie's Facebook page:

I am profoundly disgusted by the racism that has been addressed at the 11 million undocumented people in this country. People can disagree about immigration reform, but racism and demagoguery on this issue in the year 2015 is unacceptable.

https://www.facebook.com/berniesanders

From August 16th:

During Sunday's picnic, Sanders said the country should be proud that it had become a "less discriminatory society" but said racism remains a major problem "that together we must overcome."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-racism_55d10b2be4b055a6dab0a4a8

In every speech Bernie has done over the last few months he states things similar to this. He has NEVER said racism in America has ended. That is completely false and it's sad you have chose to manipulate one statement and run with it.

[Broward]

22. A rancid post. The conservatives on this board are showing their true colors.

[artislife]

30. rancid is a good adjective for this.

[LoveIsNow]

26. There is no correct choice.

Because that isn't what he said. You even put a direct quote, and that wasn't what he said.


Obviously you don't have any, but have you ever even HEARD OF integrity?

[beam me up scottie]

27. Choose to rec this thread instead:

Bernie Sanders: "we are far from eradicating racism".

[LoveIsNow]

32. Will do.

This one reeks of desperation.

[whatchamacallit]

28. So much fail

Duplicitous flamebait is your speciality.

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. Take a dump, and run. So unlike you.

Oh, wait...

[randys1]

33. I hate it when Bernie fans REPEATEDLY use all kinds of bullshit and RW nonsense to

attack Hillary and I also dont like it when this meme is used against Bernie.

He clearly meant that enough of America had overcome racism to the point where we could elect Obama.

He has since said on at least two occasions that America has not overcome racism.

The original comment was unfortunate and he has since made his position clear...




This doesnt mean the AfAm community cant have and doesnt still have issues with Bernie, that isnt what I am addressing, I am just addressing this disingenuous attack of him.

[stevenleser]

35. I agree with you but I have some small amount of sympathy for the OP

The torrent of nonsense thrown around here against Hillary and against AAs and BLM certainly makes one feel like throwing the same kind of garbage back.

[randys1]

38. I know, I sympathize, and if it was anybody BUT Bernie Sanders.

And I defer to African Americans when it comes to him, they have their opinions and I better listen to them if I want to be informed.

But at the end of the day we have some great candidates, and compared to the clown car...

Wait, I dont want to call them the clown car anymore, this implies Keystone Cops ineptness and humor.

There is not one funny thing about what these vicious, Woman hating, Black hating, Asian hating, Muslim hating, Gay hating kochsucking motherfuckers want to do if they manage to steal that election.

And THAT is what is so infuriating, because I can count on one finger the number of Hillary fans who have VOWED not to vote if Bernie is the nominee, but I have heard OFTEN the same from the other side.

[stonecutter357]

36. +1

[winter is coming]

34. Keepin' it 20.

'Cause sometimes 100 is just too ambitious.

[AgingAmerican]

39. of course

In the context in which he was speaking, yes.

[stonecutter357]

40. I will be just as happy with Bernie Sanders as i am with Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[hifiguy]

41. Keep trying.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251633161

[bobalew]

42. HOW MANY TROLLS DOES IT TAKE TO PISS OFF BOTH SIDES of the same issue, depending on who's your

Candidate?
GET A CLUE, folks, you are being PLAYED.....

[Agnosticsherbet]

43. Electing a black President brought racism into the open

[whatchamacallit]

47. There's some truth to this

It galvanized a lot of overt and covert racists on the right. I'm sure Bernie was speaking about how far the mainstream had come though.

[Armstead]

45. This qualifies for the Trolling Hall of Fame

Congratulations.

[TheKentuckian]

46. I don't even agree that he was saying what you assert in context.

I do believe that conservatives are lying liars that lie regardless of party affiliation.

Desperate, entitled power seekers and their sad sack footpads doubly so.

I also believe that some folks will do or say anything and they should be trusted about as far as I can fling a super massive black hole.

What does one profit even if they gain the whole world if they lose their soul in the exchange?

[Fearless]

48. We did overcome s hurtle. But as he also says, we have a long way to go

[ornotna]

49. I agree

that only a person with the name of Capt. Obvious could get away with that vote.

[Bluenorthwest]

50. I think either you have terrible reading comprehension or bad intention.

I find this to be exploitative and disrespectful to the readers, the candidate, the interviewer and to the electoral process itself.

[Ken Burch]

70. Thank you. n/t.

[leftofcool]

51. It doesn't matter, he's gone by March 1

[doc03]

52. Still hear the "N" word used by my generation nearly every day n/t

[840high]

53. This is on Home Page....

Bernie Sanders: "we are far from eradicating racism" 48 recs : By beam me up scottie

[workinclasszero]

56. Innocent PoC getting gunned down in the streets

just about everyday by the police tell me that we are far from overcoming racism.

The whole damn republican party is based on racism.

I have no idea what Bernie was thinking when he said that.

[left-of-center2012]

57. Let's poll Clinton comments

Didn't she support the Bush wars
and oppose same sex marriage?

[aikoaiko]

59. Of course, we (a majority of Americans) overcame systematic racism to elect the Barack Obama

Many people didn't think they would live to see the day, but it happened based on the strength of his message and a determined campaign.

Were you not around then, Cali_Democrat?

[jkbRN]

60. Ew,

You took this way out of context. You should be ashamed.

[WillyT]

61. Hahahahahahaha... Desperate Are We ???

[highprincipleswork]

62. I agree that you're taking what he said and what he stands for out of context.

It kills me the glee that the anti-Sanders folk get in distorting his positions, record, just in general who he is.

What does it win?

Well, it may sway people who aren't really following things. Perhaps it will enough sway enough to cause him real trouble.

But aren't we trying to nominate the best person here? If one feels that anything they are posting or saying or spreading around is not constructively geared towards making the right choice, it shouldn't be posted.

This does not seem like one of those constructive posts to me.

[kath]

63. What. The. Fuck.

Such a bullshit post.

[m-lekktor]

64. Racism was overcome to elect a black president but this hardly means racism is over which Bernie

has mentioned on many occasions. To imply this is what he meant is sleazebaggery of the highest order.

I suppose I can't expect you to be any better than than the person you support. like attracts like

[Paka]

65. To post out of context and then put your own spin on it...

is so sad it's pathetic. You know damn well that Bernie agrees there is a lot more work to be done in the area of racism on many fronts.

These are the kind of posts that turn my stomach.

[cyberswede]

67. wise

[Ken Burch]

68. He meant we got past it just for a moment.

It's a lie to imply that Bernie thinks racism has been put to rest and you damn well know it.

[GitRDun]

69. I passed

Quote is old.

Also don't think he meant racism was gone...just gone enough to elect a black President...hard to say