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Don't Forget To Visit http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com ... To See If They're Dissing On You... (Original Post) WillyT Sep 2015 OP
Blocked at local firewall Snap the Turtle Sep 2015 #1
Well... Go Here... You'll Get The Idea. WillyT Sep 2015 #6
Oh goodness no. I've blocked them here, why go there to read Catherina Sep 2015 #2
+1 nt Zorra Sep 2015 #10
Civility is so confining for some... Fumesucker Sep 2015 #3
They hid most of their forums jfern Sep 2015 #4
They alerted on me last night. hifiguy Sep 2015 #128
I couldn't care less. onecaliberal Sep 2015 #5
Me Neither... I'm Just Wondering About How Proud They Are Of That Site... Not Much It Seems... WillyT Sep 2015 #12
Yeah, you don't care. zappaman Sep 2015 #27
You're still here? sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #53
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #78
I think it's funny how they created a whole other site onecaliberal Sep 2015 #36
i just want to know who paid for it n/t questionseverything Sep 2015 #115
50 to 1 it's bankrolled out of HRH's huge stash hifiguy Sep 2015 #129
i would guess you are correct but that would be just a guess questionseverything Sep 2015 #136
It looks and quacks a lot hifiguy Sep 2015 #139
Probably just one of the supporters. John Poet Oct 2015 #168
If only...they’re still here spreading lies. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #15
We should all give zero fucks what people on other sites say. cyberswede Sep 2015 #7
What? No RW Clinton speculation and links for folks to forward today? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #8
This may disappoint you Willy but no one talks about DURHAM D Sep 2015 #9
Damn... I Failed... WillyT Sep 2015 #13
Actually that's not true. cui bono Oct 2015 #151
I wouldn't sign up there. It's unsafe. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #11
I guess it's the same team that set up Clinton's email server. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #18
I sure hope Hillary's IT job kept servers more up to date. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #21
Yeah...about that hope... jeff47 Sep 2015 #22
LOL! Fawke Em Sep 2015 #85
The policy wonks must have arrived FlatBaroque Sep 2015 #14
Bwahahahahahahahaha dorkzilla Sep 2015 #16
Impressive. 840high Sep 2015 #72
Yeah I was noticing that too AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #145
No thank you! Let them wallow in their hate. in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #17
Are they really gone? I have most of them on ignore so I have no way of knowing tularetom Sep 2015 #26
We should be so lucky. in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #32
The fact that many are on timeout Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #33
Crock of shit. in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #34
I'll take Skinner's word for that. Don't see any reason to believe people who spend sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #58
Nope, they are on time out because they broke the rules Live and Learn Sep 2015 #67
I am alert stalked constantly AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #108
Or you can do this... cui bono Oct 2015 #155
Are you really claiming that Clinton supporters being on time out mythology Sep 2015 #120
The fact that many of them are on a time out is proof that they are rude. cui bono Oct 2015 #153
I doubt that proof is obvious enough, for the captain. delrem Oct 2015 #158
Who gives a f*ck? It isn't like we really know anyone there. artislife Sep 2015 #19
People don't know anyone in the accident by the side of the highway jeff47 Sep 2015 #24
That's true artislife Sep 2015 #28
I learned long ago that you can judge people by who their 'enemies' are on the internet. I'm proud sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #74
What's with that home page? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #20
Yeah its pretty bizarre that they couldn't finish the template...nt Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #64
I was wondering about that also. BlueJazz Sep 2015 #66
What a great site! Thanks for linking it. George II Sep 2015 #23
Considering you post your plans to disrupt DU on that site jeff47 Sep 2015 #86
Wow, really? kenfrequed Sep 2015 #90
Yep. Here's the DU thread jeff47 Sep 2015 #91
Wow. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #92
I did. MindfulOne Sep 2015 #95
+1000. nt. polly7 Sep 2015 #96
killing with kindness is always best questionseverything Sep 2015 #118
That's true. It can't hurt to be amicable, we will need to come together. MindfulOne Sep 2015 #119
Here's a great post from it! cui bono Oct 2015 #156
I don't care. winter is coming Sep 2015 #25
That's my attitude, too Aerows Sep 2015 #75
I'll pass ornotna Sep 2015 #29
I got in before they locked all the filthy stuff up .......... polly7 Sep 2015 #30
6 months of bullshit Alittleliberal Sep 2015 #31
Why do this? Godhumor Sep 2015 #35
I 100% agree. A totally useless OP. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #38
But if you don't clean house.....who will? nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #42
Ugh. "Clean house"… as odious as the OP. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #45
Because a bunch of high post count DUers are laughing with glee over trolling for "hides", delrem Oct 2015 #164
That really isn't true..but thankfully it is locked so we artislife Sep 2015 #84
Because many of them are still on DU jeff47 Sep 2015 #87
They got away from DU so they could plot their attacks on certain DU factions. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2015 #107
It's not even high school. hifiguy Sep 2015 #132
Spouses who abuse their mates and then seek out their safe houses oasis Sep 2015 #37
+1 betsuni Sep 2015 #62
Wait, so now y'all are spouses TM99 Sep 2015 #82
I share your disgust at this incredible posturing MoveIt Sep 2015 #93
"Battered spouses"? "Slaves"? . Feel free to add your own oasis Sep 2015 #94
Truly disgusting isn't it? nt. polly7 Sep 2015 #97
As a victim of actual spousal abuse, I find your post really fucking disgusting. bunnies Sep 2015 #106
Im a Clinton supporter mccallen Sep 2015 #111
Im not a Clinton supporter... bunnies Sep 2015 #116
Abuse is abuse is abuse. Verbal or otherwise. I find oasis Sep 2015 #112
Me getting my bones broken is the same as someone getting feelings hurt on the internet? bunnies Sep 2015 #117
My father and stepfather physically abused my mom. oasis Sep 2015 #127
+1,000,000. nt. polly7 Sep 2015 #123
Not worth it to me either, WillyT Blue_In_AK Sep 2015 #39
Really, Willy? Why did you post this awful divisive OP? Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #40
Meh. Enjoy the silence... SMC22307 Sep 2015 #41
And don't forget ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #43
Or the Stanley Kowalski character in "A Streetcar Named Desire". oasis Sep 2015 #46
You misunderstand... Chan790 Sep 2015 #48
And when ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #49
Build an actual party of progressives devoid of quislings & corporatists along with their enablers?! Chan790 Sep 2015 #51
If it's so obvious ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #54
Win real victories voting for candidates worth voting for. Chan790 Sep 2015 #59
... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #130
ugh i don't know why 840high Sep 2015 #73
really? ibegurpard Sep 2015 #144
PUMA's pounce! reddread Sep 2015 #79
So you're a small tent Democrat. Metric System Sep 2015 #50
Not necessarily, but too small for the likes of Hillary's friends. Chan790 Sep 2015 #56
It's good that we have you to decide who's a Democrat and who's not. Metric System Sep 2015 #57
You're welcome. :) Chan790 Sep 2015 #61
+1 betsuni Sep 2015 #60
HRC Supporters can stay in DU who gives a crap, they need to be GONE from the Democratic Party YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #83
Good thinking! NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #134
Thank you and your minions for that. Cleita Sep 2015 #104
So do the 3 issues threads in the Clinton Cave sum up what the election is about then? cui bono Oct 2015 #160
NAILED it. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #165
Thank you so much for the promotion of this site... revmclaren Sep 2015 #44
We really should thank them for all the new members. leftofcool Oct 2015 #146
they went live Aug. 25, 2015? hm! MisterP Sep 2015 #47
Ugh, willy, why would anyone want to do that? Once is more than enough. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #52
Not content with driving away Hillary supporters from DU, our intrepid OP seeks to hunt down every Metric System Sep 2015 #55
Over on Discussionist, they are obsessed with DU. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #110
They advertised their little site here on DU the day it went 'live' AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #140
And some here have been obsessed ever since. Metric System Sep 2015 #142
There goes your 'hunted' hypothesis AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #143
I got invited to that site and another one. What makes people applegrove Sep 2015 #63
I think the site is doing a vast disservice to Hillary. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #68
What makes you think it is being organized by real Hillary supporters. Stick applegrove Sep 2015 #71
applegrove, that is Aerows Sep 2015 #76
Why would we leave the DU to talk about Hillary. God only applegrove Sep 2015 #80
As I posted earlier Aerows Sep 2015 #81
Because there are members on that site that are in the DU Clinton group. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #88
Hunt them down! We need names, dammit. Metric System Sep 2015 #99
:eyes: jeff47 Sep 2015 #102
The people promoting, participating in and defending it are DU Hillary supporters. cui bono Oct 2015 #161
The Hillary group on DU is not a safe space. Neither is the AA group. A number of members have been Metric System Sep 2015 #98
As have members in every group. nt. polly7 Sep 2015 #103
Even within protected groups, you have to play by DU rules. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2015 #109
Indeed, the protected Atheists & Agnostics group gets alert stalked all the time Fumesucker Oct 2015 #167
Un-molested by Bernie supporters? Not really leftofcool Oct 2015 #147
Good grief, the other unmentionable site that starts with an F is more welcoming. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #65
Well they did their best to shut up all debate and discussion other than Cleita Sep 2015 #105
I looked at the site. Needs work with the code but if that's what they want that's fine. Seems.. BlueJazz Sep 2015 #69
Nothing there is of interest to me. Maedhros Sep 2015 #70
Have they mentioned me yet? n/t. Ken Burch Sep 2015 #77
How is this about the Democratic primaries. MineralMan Sep 2015 #89
Apparently it's allowed, judging by the multiple threads on the topic that are still open: Metric System Sep 2015 #100
Yes. I'm aware of that, for sure. MineralMan Sep 2015 #101
Then alert on it. Apparently either no one did, or the community disagreed with you. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #121
I did. Apparently, the hosts disagreed with my opinion. MineralMan Sep 2015 #122
Well there ya go .......... polly7 Sep 2015 #124
Indeed. We all have a voice here. MineralMan Sep 2015 #125
Right on. polly7 Sep 2015 #126
Yes, I like the way DU works, so long as no one abuses the system, unlike, apparently those who sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #138
This thread sounds like pre-teen girls gossiping at their school lunch table. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #113
With varying degrees of poutrage. oasis Sep 2015 #114
I saw that movie. leftofcool Oct 2015 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth Sep 2015 #131
A couple of looks into that swine-manure lagoon hifiguy Sep 2015 #133
You guys are going to run good DUers off with this shit. pinstikfartherin Sep 2015 #135
Reminds me of 2008 TSIAS Sep 2015 #137
There is a thread about me there... AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #141
HCS has a message for DU... Lancero Oct 2015 #149
To be fair TSIAS Oct 2015 #150
How mature, HCS. neverforget Oct 2015 #154
Someone actually took time to make that .......... pretty sad when you think about it. nt. polly7 Oct 2015 #159
Now you have to register and login to political pub. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #152
Oh no ........... 'Grumble' - the worst, was locked first. polly7 Oct 2015 #157
Or not so tight... cui bono Oct 2015 #162
Ohhhh! polly7 Oct 2015 #163
K&R! Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #166

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
2. Oh goodness no. I've blocked them here, why go there to read
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:10 PM
Sep 2015

even worse stuff than they're posting here?

jfern

(5,204 posts)
4. They hid most of their forums
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:12 PM
Sep 2015

They don't want us to see how they are purposefully alert stalking users they don't like. Cowards.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
128. They alerted on me last night.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:42 PM
Sep 2015

The alert was slapped down 6-1. Looks like "their" juries aren't very effective.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
12. Me Neither... I'm Just Wondering About How Proud They Are Of That Site... Not Much It Seems...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:17 PM
Sep 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
53. You're still here?
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:43 AM
Sep 2015

I clicked on the link posted here and got the impression that site, like that other one I won't give a mention to, is for people who hate DU? I assumed they were out of here. Or were you just visiting?

Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #53)

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
168. Probably just one of the supporters.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:43 AM
Oct 2015

That's a phpBB forum. One can be set up and customized in an hour or less. The only cost to set one up is the cost of your web-hosting and a domain name. I only pay $2.99 a month for my hosting account which handles multiple websites. Of course you can pay much more if you haven't shopped hosting accounts...



dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
15. If only...they’re still here spreading lies.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:19 PM
Sep 2015

Like Bernie says social justice must take a back seat to economic justice (as if the two weren’t intertwined...).

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
7. We should all give zero fucks what people on other sites say.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:13 PM
Sep 2015

That goes for free republic, discussionist, Old Elm Tree, and CC (both of them).

Enough already.

DURHAM D

(33,054 posts)
9. This may disappoint you Willy but no one talks about
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:16 PM
Sep 2015

you over there, even in the secret room.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
151. Actually that's not true.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:05 AM
Oct 2015

Sadly I spent a few minutes perusing that site and there was more than one post about Willy.

Even more sad though, is that you are privy to the 'secret room'. I will keep that in mind if I ever read any of your posts on here. The insight of knowing who hangs out at such a venomous and hate filled place is beneficial.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
11. I wouldn't sign up there. It's unsafe.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:17 PM
Sep 2015

They're running software that's old and vulnerable to some well-known exploits.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
21. I sure hope Hillary's IT job kept servers more up to date.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:26 PM
Sep 2015

Granted, this is what you get when you choose a $20 managed hosting plan.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
22. Yeah...about that hope...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:27 PM
Sep 2015

What we know so far:

1) Communications with her server were not encrypted for the first 3 months.
https://www.venafi.com/blog/post/what-venafi-trustnet-tells-us-about-the-clinton-email-server/

2) They left the default VPN keys installed on her server
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-04/clinton-s-e-mail-system-built-for-privacy-though-not-security

Using those addresses, McGeorge discovered that the certificate appearing on the site Tuesday appeared to be the factory default for the security appliance, made by Fortinet Inc., running the service.


3) They were using, and continue to use, self-signed SSL certificates
http://gawker.com/how-unsafe-was-hillary-clintons-secret-staff-email-syst-1689393042

4) They set up a .com domain, enabling the typosquater who has registered clintonmail.com (no "e" before "mail&quot . Whoever registered that domain is in a perfect position to steal login information or perform spear phishing attacks.

5) Her ISP was repeatedly hacked by China
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=615632

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
17. No thank you! Let them wallow in their hate.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:20 PM
Sep 2015

It's so nice and civil when they're gone. Blissful!

At least I know what I suspected all along is TRUE. I visited before the firewall and cleansing took place. Now we know what they really are. And it's not nice.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
32. We should be so lucky.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:56 PM
Sep 2015

They come in packs throughout the day to spread their Bernie hate around.

When they aren't here, it's quite noticeable and nice - like the DU of old. Peaceful, blissful, civil.

Many can't come back because they're on a time-out, so it will eventually become a raucous pit again, unless they stay on their new hate site. It fits them well.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
33. The fact that many are on timeout
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:00 PM
Sep 2015

is proof of the alert gang stalking going on here.

Before anyone posts Skinner and EarlG's analysis of alerts tell them to break it down by groups rather than raw data and the Alert Truth will be as plain as day.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
34. Crock of shit.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:04 PM
Sep 2015

I've never alerted on anyone, EVER. You can't say that about your gang of what? 30?
And like Skinner said, if they're on Time-out, they deserve to be there.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
58. I'll take Skinner's word for that. Don't see any reason to believe people who spend
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:50 AM
Sep 2015

their time bashing this site and a majority of DUers. their credibility isn't all that great.

From the first and last time I will ever click on that site, I saw an actual ADMISSION that a DUer here, Cali to be precise, was deliberately provoked by one of the members of that awful site in order to get her a time out.

Hilarious that people who set up a site to bash this site, allow people to gloat about goading DUers so they can alert on them, and then whine that THEY are the ones being alert stalked despite the assurance of the admins that it just isn't happening.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
67. Nope, they are on time out because they broke the rules
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:29 AM
Sep 2015

and now it is apparent that they have (and probably never had) any respect for Skinner, DU or any of the rest of us.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
108. I am alert stalked constantly
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:56 PM
Sep 2015

Just have to be careful how you say things. It ain't hard.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
120. Are you really claiming that Clinton supporters being on time out
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:53 PM
Sep 2015

Is evidence they are alert stalking Sanders supporters? If there was alert stalking going on, the people on on time out would be the ones who could claim to have been alert stalked. You don't get a time out for sending alerts. People who post in a boorish fashion get enough alerts to go on time out. It happens to both sides.

But even the raw numbers disprove alert stalking. If there there are generally fewer than 50 alerts, given that some are for obvious trolls, how are there enough alerts to qualify for stalking? Additionally given that in many of the times when Elad has posted the stats he includes if somebody was alerted on more than once. If there was targeted alert stalking, they are doing a really poor job.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
153. The fact that many of them are on a time out is proof that they are rude.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:10 AM
Oct 2015

You want proof of alert stalking? Here you go:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=622710

And that proud prodder is on MIRT here. He himself is a MI so he should R himself from the T and the entire DU.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
158. I doubt that proof is obvious enough, for the captain.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:26 AM
Oct 2015

A fucking troll on MIRT is not enough.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
19. Who gives a f*ck? It isn't like we really know anyone there.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:22 PM
Sep 2015

It is the internet.

This forum, that forum, all are illusionary.

Very rarely does it mean anything in one's personal life.

Let it go.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
24. People don't know anyone in the accident by the side of the highway
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:30 PM
Sep 2015

they still slow down to look.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
28. That's true
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:38 PM
Sep 2015

I guess what I am trying to say, is don't take it to heart if someone is mean on the internet. One, you don't know them, they don't really know you. Two, they get off on creating an emotion in others. You don't get emotional, they stay flaccid.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
74. I learned long ago that you can judge people by who their 'enemies' are on the internet. I'm proud
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:01 AM
Sep 2015

to say I have all the 'right' enemies!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,516 posts)
20. What's with that home page?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:23 PM
Sep 2015

The bottom half of the page seems to be the template that hasn't been filled in. Not very professional - kind of like going out in public with your underwear showing.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
86. Considering you post your plans to disrupt DU on that site
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 09:15 AM
Sep 2015

your post might be a tad disingenuous.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
90. Wow, really?
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 10:18 AM
Sep 2015

Cause that sounds like some pretty revolting behavior, all things considered.

I looked at that website once and it required registration and I did a cost-benefit analysis and decided against looking in on a place like that. I don't need that kind of drama.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
91. Yep. Here's the DU thread
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 10:23 AM
Sep 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251616648

The stuff about their site starts under reply #17. Has lovely quotes and screenshots, since they turned registration on after deciding they were getting too much attention.

George II posts over there with his plan to goad DU members into getting hides. And then celebrates when he does. Just the kind a person who should be on MIRT, right?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
92. Wow.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 10:52 AM
Sep 2015

Seriously, the anger and emotional rage and hate are pretty extreme. Glad I didn't register. I don't need to see that kind of garbage.

 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
95. I did.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:05 PM
Sep 2015

I registered and then was bounced without ever even posting.
The latest plans are to step up the hate against Bernie's wife, Jane, and to repeat the "socialist" meme, and they're plotting to rile us up using Monica Lewinski, who recently announced a anti-bullying campaign.
http://www.people.com/article/monica-lewinsky-anti-bullying-campaign-people-magazine

If we let ourselves get involved in that there will be lots of accusations of misogyny and alerts and hidden threads.
The alert stalking is real, but it's all they can do, it's best to just not engage or to kill them with kindness if we must reply at all.

 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
119. That's true. It can't hurt to be amicable, we will need to come together.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:45 PM
Sep 2015

For now, try to rise above it and admit that we, too, are passionate, just about different candidates.

And let it go.

I didn't think it could get nastier, overall, than it was in 2007-8 but it's shaping up to be just as bad.

Citizens United and DWS did not help, and Clinton is more desperate this time around, it's truly her last and only shot.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
156. Here's a great post from it!
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:19 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=622710

Have you resigned from MIRT yet? You clearly are not objective and show yourself to be the Malicious Intruder you are supposed to be Removing.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
75. That's my attitude, too
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:05 AM
Sep 2015

I have most of them on ignore here anyway, so why would I go somewhere else only to discover that I need to ignore them there, too?

ornotna

(11,479 posts)
29. I'll pass
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:44 PM
Sep 2015

not the least bit interested. This reply is about as worked up as I'm going to get about the goings on over there.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
30. I got in before they locked all the filthy stuff up ..........
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:54 PM
Sep 2015

officially dissed.

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Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
31. 6 months of bullshit
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:55 PM
Sep 2015

6 months of lying, distorting, a refusal to discuss issues, projection, hatred and swiftboating. Then they run off with their tails between their legs claiming to be the victims. Who does that sound like?

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
35. Why do this?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:06 PM
Sep 2015

They took their discussion off DU to get away from DU. Why bring it back to DU?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
164. Because a bunch of high post count DUers are laughing with glee over trolling for "hides",
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:07 AM
Oct 2015

while at the same time on DU complaining that they've been "alert stalked".
And because that is a reality that takes awhile to take in - and since it's happening now and is ongoing. This is all a process that's been ongoing for months and humans do have emotions. Sometimes a person just can't hold in the scream.

Remember the #berniesoblack joke?
Yah, that shit - the trolling.

It's not up to us to pretend that it didn't/doesn't exist. It's up to the trolls to put an end to it, since it's clearly orchestrated and even has its own forum, just like "the cave".

and... David Brock.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
84. That really isn't true..but thankfully it is locked so we
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:09 AM
Sep 2015

will be blissfully unaware and no one will bring any posts back. And soon they will recede from memory....and life will be completely joyful.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
87. Because many of them are still on DU
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 09:18 AM
Sep 2015

And when their time-outs expire, it's nice to know who they really are.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
107. They got away from DU so they could plot their attacks on certain DU factions.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:56 PM
Sep 2015

Pathetic and infantile.

oasis

(53,689 posts)
37. Spouses who abuse their mates and then seek out their safe houses
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:25 PM
Sep 2015

should first do some soul searching.

Relationships 101.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
82. Wait, so now y'all are spouses
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 04:34 AM
Sep 2015

that have been abused and Sanders supporters at DU are the abusive husbands?!

Let's add that to the bullshit that y'all are slaves and Sanders supporters at DU are the slaveholders.

The hyperbolic victimhood would be comical if it wasn't so disturbing and offensive to, you know, the actual history of slavery or actual abused & battered spouses!

 

MoveIt

(399 posts)
93. I share your disgust at this incredible posturing
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 10:58 AM
Sep 2015

they have weaponized their offensive trolling.

That the poster above would try and invoke domestic abuse in the context of their planned disruptions to this site is beyond the pale, and is a good reinforcement of why I have that disgusting poster and all of it's freakish friends over there on full ignore.

oasis

(53,689 posts)
94. "Battered spouses"? "Slaves"? . Feel free to add your own
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:59 PM
Sep 2015

words which serve to validate exactly what I alluding to in the metaphor.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
106. As a victim of actual spousal abuse, I find your post really fucking disgusting.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:53 PM
Sep 2015

I hope you are so clueless as to have to fucking idea how offensive this is.

 

mccallen

(24 posts)
111. Im a Clinton supporter
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:03 PM
Sep 2015

And I think that website went too far and oasis went too far.

This is eye opening and not in a good way. Im starting to back away from Clinton now with her recent statements on higher education and repealing the Cadillac tax.

Both moves were wrong, and its starting to make me re-examine my choices.

Thanks for the eye opener.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
116. Im not a Clinton supporter...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:38 PM
Sep 2015

but in her defense, I believe most Democrats want to real the Cadillac tax. I could be wrong though. Its happened before.

oasis

(53,689 posts)
112. Abuse is abuse is abuse. Verbal or otherwise. I find
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:04 PM
Sep 2015

site stalking offensive, which is the purpose of the OP.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
117. Me getting my bones broken is the same as someone getting feelings hurt on the internet?
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:39 PM
Sep 2015

Thats just sick.

oasis

(53,689 posts)
127. My father and stepfather physically abused my mom.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:29 PM
Sep 2015

My sister and I never got used to it. Over the years I have, on many occasions, stepped in to break up, or report on abusive situations.

When I was in the workforce, payroll deductions for safe houses were among my contributions to the Combined Federation Campaign each year.

The metaphor in my post upthread wasn't written from a ivory tower perspective. My heart goes out to anyone who has suffered abuse. I'm sorry for what you have endured in your relationship.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
39. Not worth it to me either, WillyT
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:27 PM
Sep 2015

I try to approach everyone here with equanimity (or not at all, if I find them distasteful) so if someone has an issue with me, I'll have to assume it's totally unwarranted.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
41. Meh. Enjoy the silence...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:49 PM
Sep 2015

while they're gone, cuz you know they'll be back. Their crappy little site won't get any traction, just like the Sensible Centrist Democrats for Progress is a big ol' loser.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
43. And don't forget ...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:00 PM
Sep 2015

... that if you've always wished that the HRC supporters would leave DU, congratulations! THEY HAVE!

Concerned that DU isn't as much fun as it used to be when you had HRC supporters to denigrate, belittle, demean, and alert on in hopes of yet another hide or time-out? Well, they've now moved elsewhere - but that doesn't mean you have to abandon your bashing of the Democratic front-runner - you simply have to post a link to their site and pretend that you still have control over what they post!

"See if they're dissin' you" - because that's what this election is really all about, who's dissin' who on the internetz! If BS supporters get dissed more often on a website than HRC supporters get dissed on DU - well, that's what will determine who is the next POTUS, make no mistake about it!

Do you ever wonder why some people, instead of taking advantage of their dominance of one website, find it necessary to link to another website and comment on what's being said there instead of here? Do you ever wonder why people made unwelcome on DU have created their own space to discuss their candidate-of-choice without being harassed - and why BS supporters can't stand the thought of people posting on a site they can't control?

Well, now's your chance to pretend that such things actually matter! Now's your golden opportunity to act like an HRC-supporting site has a god-damned nerve NOT joining The Cult! This is the time that try BS-supporters' souls - and an opportunity to link to the blasphemers' website so that they might be smitten with the sword of thy vengeance and exposed as non-believers!



For the movie version, I see Ben Affleck as the perpetually irate DUer who obsessively links to "non-Bernie sites" in an attempt to wake up the few hundred people who still post there, Julia Roberts as the HRC supporter who is harassed by on-line BS fanatics due to her refusal to drink the kool-aid, and Jeff Bridges - in a reprise of his role as "The Dude" - explaining how "Well, like that's just your opinion, man" has little to do with reality.

oasis

(53,689 posts)
46. Or the Stanley Kowalski character in "A Streetcar Named Desire".
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:15 PM
Sep 2015

"Stellaaaaa.......Stellaaaa"

Btw see post #37

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
48. You misunderstand...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:26 AM
Sep 2015

I don't want them to leave DU, (...well, actually...yes, that too) I want them to leave the Democratic party and take the Clintons with them.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
49. And when ...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:32 AM
Sep 2015

... the Clinton supporters all leave the party, what do the rest of you that are left plan to do - all twelve of you?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
51. Build an actual party of progressives devoid of quislings & corporatists along with their enablers?!
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:37 AM
Sep 2015

I thought that was obvious.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
54. If it's so obvious ...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:44 AM
Sep 2015

... why don't you start a political party based on that platform, and those parameters for membership?

And then what do you plan to do - all twelve of you?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
59. Win real victories voting for candidates worth voting for.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:52 AM
Sep 2015

Also, there are more than twelve of us; there's clearly enough us to make Hillary's coronation more of a horse race than Clintonbots are comfortable with...it's why your Goldwater Girl and her campaign staff of RW ideologues are shitting themselves and worrying why they can't make the "Socialist" label, the "Jew" label or the "Racist" label stick against a real progressive offering real solutions and real change.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
130. ...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:47 PM
Sep 2015

"Hillary's coronation", "Goldwater Girl", "campaign staff of RW ideologues" - what a non-creative use of the usual worn-out cliches!

In case you don't read the polls, HRC is the front-runner, and BS is still a very distant second. So no one is "shitting themselves and worrying" about anything.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
56. Not necessarily, but too small for the likes of Hillary's friends.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:45 AM
Sep 2015

This man is not a Democrat; he's just deluded enough to think he is.


Neither is this one.


Certainly not this guy.


Or this woman.

Actually, it doesn't seem that Sec. Clinton has many friends that aren't actually Pretender Democrats.
 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
83. HRC Supporters can stay in DU who gives a crap, they need to be GONE from the Democratic Party
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 04:49 AM
Sep 2015

why because they are the problem, the corporate/conservative/DLC DEMs are the ones holding the party back, they are the ones who always F-up good legislation.

Yeah, Yeah Yeah big tent and all that jazz but the big tent needs to EXCLUDE the corporatists and those beholden to wall street, let those that do join the GOP or another party.

Lets pretend that HRC does get the Democratic Party nomination, if she does, we will see the LOWEST voter turn out in history and people will sit home, vote for someone else and many will leave the Democratic Party to the great delight to her supporters.

As long as the corporatists are in the democratic party the perception of uniparty will continue further discouraging people to vote why because it is pointless when both the R and D have the same agendas of doing Wall Streets bidding..








NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
134. Good thinking!
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 04:02 PM
Sep 2015

Right now, the majority of the Party supports Hillary - and you think they should all leave?

Hmmm ... doesn't sound like something a Democrat would say.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
104. Thank you and your minions for that.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:42 PM
Sep 2015

The fresh air left behind on DU is exhilarating. Enjoy your new site. I truly mean that.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
160. So do the 3 issues threads in the Clinton Cave sum up what the election is about then?
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:44 AM
Oct 2015

And I guess it wasn't about anything until it was noted over here on DU that the "Issues" forum at the Clinton Cave wasn't open for posting an entire month after all the hate began to be spewed in numerous other forums there.

Even this post of yours over here is full of hate. So sad.

Do you ever wonder why some people, instead of taking advantage of their dominance of one website, find it necessary to link to another website and comment on what's being said there instead of here? Do you ever wonder why people made unwelcome on DU have created their own space to discuss their candidate-of-choice without being harassed - and why BS supporters can't stand the thought of people posting on a site they can't control?


Do you ever wonder why supporters of a candidate who is less popular on a particular website have the need to go make another website for the sole purpose of spewing their hatred of those who support the candidate who is more popular on that first website? Do you ever wonder why they never discuss issues (as noted above) and choose to attempt to smear the opposing candidate and that candidate's supporters? Do you ever wonder why you get things so damn wrong all the time? Do you ever tire of being an apologist? How sad that you are actually defending such vile hatred. Even more pathetic that you are participating in it.

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
44. Thank you so much for the promotion of this site...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:06 PM
Sep 2015

I just posted the following on my Facebook page

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/

Please share this link with your friends, neighbors, family and coworkers. New posting board highly recommended by even the the most passionate Sanders supporters on Democratic Underground.

http://democraticunderground.com

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
55. Not content with driving away Hillary supporters from DU, our intrepid OP seeks to hunt down every
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:44 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary supporter online and drive them off the Internet completely. Or something like that. Wait, what's the point of this thread again?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
110. Over on Discussionist, they are obsessed with DU.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:02 PM
Sep 2015

Here on DU, we seem to have some members that are obsessed with a site that's pro-Hillary.

Go figure.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
140. They advertised their little site here on DU the day it went 'live'
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 06:23 PM
Sep 2015

But thanks for trying.

applegrove

(132,207 posts)
63. I got invited to that site and another one. What makes people
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:17 AM
Sep 2015

think these are not just attempts by the right to shut Hillary supporters up on the DU? I haven't gone to either site I was invited to. But what makes you think these are really the Hillary supporters they claim to be? Seems to me there is no way to know. Why two sites? Do more than two entities want Hillary supporters to have another place? If I sign up there at give my du name will they put cookies in my computer that can garner my real name and address so they can write me a letter? We don't know what is up with the two sites. Reeks of gaslight ing. I suggest we stick to the DU. There is a Hillary group on the DU for her supporters to go get some supportive responses, unmolested by Bernie folk.

applegrove

(132,207 posts)
71. What makes you think it is being organized by real Hillary supporters. Stick
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:31 AM
Sep 2015

with the DU Hillary group. At least that is being moderated and owned by people we know and trust.

applegrove

(132,207 posts)
80. Why would we leave the DU to talk about Hillary. God only
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:35 AM
Sep 2015

knows what reindeer games are going on outside in ways Skinner cannot mitigate. I also alert anytime someone invites me to leave the DU.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
81. As I posted earlier
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:41 AM
Sep 2015

I have most of them on ignore anyway, why would I go somewhere else only to decide to ignore them there?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
102. :eyes:
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:25 PM
Sep 2015

If the poster above is claiming DU is all that matters, they should consider the same people appear in both places.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
161. The people promoting, participating in and defending it are DU Hillary supporters.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:54 AM
Oct 2015

Not sure what point you are trying to make when they are the ones proudly claiming the site as their "safe haven" for spewing hatred. They don't want to stay on DU because they can't be assholes here. Well, not as candidly.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
98. The Hillary group on DU is not a safe space. Neither is the AA group. A number of members have been
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:11 PM
Sep 2015

alerted on even though posts were within those groups.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
109. Even within protected groups, you have to play by DU rules.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:59 PM
Sep 2015

Don't think you can lob shit bombs from your protected sanctuary and get away with it. Then you'll be fine.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
147. Un-molested by Bernie supporters? Not really
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:27 PM
Oct 2015

And by the way, there are at least 100 Hillary forums on the internet, we are only one of those.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
65. Good grief, the other unmentionable site that starts with an F is more welcoming.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:24 AM
Sep 2015

At least I can see the posts on that site.

Then again, since nobody else can see the posts on their private and exclusive club I really don't care. It kind of sums up the kind of world they want to live in.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
105. Well they did their best to shut up all debate and discussion other than
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:50 PM
Sep 2015

their narrow views on this website, so it figures they would have the same country club attitude on their website. Good riddance. Feel the Bern.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
69. I looked at the site. Needs work with the code but if that's what they want that's fine. Seems..
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:41 AM
Sep 2015

...a shame the way this election is developing. (regarding the animosity factor)

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
89. How is this about the Democratic primaries.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 10:03 AM
Sep 2015

It's a meta post about some other website. I can't see how it belongs in this forum.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
101. Yes. I'm aware of that, for sure.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:16 PM
Sep 2015

There are also a couple of locked threads, one locked by an administrator of DU. I'm not a host at this time, so I have no real input into that.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
122. I did. Apparently, the hosts disagreed with my opinion.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:56 PM
Sep 2015

That's how DU works. I also stated my view publicly, and you're replying to that. I will continue to do so, and you're welcome to disagree.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
125. Indeed. We all have a voice here.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:03 PM
Sep 2015

I'll continue to use mine freely, and encourage others to do the same.

DU is not my website. I'm just a participant here. If things don't go the way I'd prefer, I don't complain about that. I just keep posting, as always.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
138. Yes, I like the way DU works, so long as no one abuses the system, unlike, apparently those who
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:54 PM
Sep 2015

chose to start a whole other site where they bash DU and its members but then return here to use a site they apparently despise. Which is what this OP is about.

I have never belonged to a site that bashes DU nor would I remain on any site whose main purpose is to bash Democrats.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
113. This thread sounds like pre-teen girls gossiping at their school lunch table.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:05 PM
Sep 2015

"OMG, did you hear what the mean girls over there said about you???"

"I hate them, they are so ugly!!!"

"And did you see their home page?, yuck!!"

Response to WillyT (Original post)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
133. A couple of looks into that swine-manure lagoon
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:55 PM
Sep 2015

were more than enough for me.

Wouldn't go back on a bet.

pinstikfartherin

(500 posts)
135. You guys are going to run good DUers off with this shit.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 04:10 PM
Sep 2015

Seriously, I am sick of this crap. Both sides need to STFU and act like adults. There are plenty of us here that don't have a dog in this idiotic fight, whether we support Bernie or Hillary, and don't want to come here to see this every day.

I'm trashing this forum, and I hope those like me will do the same. I'll leave it to you guys. Have fun.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
137. Reminds me of 2008
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:53 PM
Sep 2015

Wonder if this is from the same people who brought us Hillary is 44.com?

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
141. There is a thread about me there...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 06:29 PM
Sep 2015

I am accused of being a right wing troll they just forgot to post the linky winks!



Lancero

(3,276 posts)
149. HCS has a message for DU...
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:02 PM
Oct 2015

[img][/img]

I'll translate on request, though it shouldn't be to hard to figure out what their message means.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
150. To be fair
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:59 AM
Oct 2015

That site has 106 "Democrats" registered. And a handful of rabid fools.

I've found a good way to deal with this sort of crap is to ignore it. That's why FOX is blocked on my TV, Hillary Clinton Forum is trashed on DU, and that site is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

My guess is that most are actually conservatives just trying to agitate.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
159. Someone actually took time to make that .......... pretty sad when you think about it. nt.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:27 AM
Oct 2015

PatrickforO

(15,424 posts)
152. Now you have to register and login to political pub.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:10 AM
Oct 2015

But only political pub. The rest of the rooms are open.

Funny, that. I guess they wanted another 'safe haven.'

polly7

(20,582 posts)
157. Oh no ........... 'Grumble' - the worst, was locked first.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:24 AM
Oct 2015

There was all sorts of stalkeryish, ugly crap in there to see before they locked it up tight.

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