Which Evil CAUSES The other Evil?

[Ken Burch]

Elaborate on your answer in the thread below.

Corollary question...defeating which evil is more likely to cause the end of the other evil?

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	Capitalism causes/sustains racism
	0 (0%)
	Racism causes/sustains capitalism
	0 (0%)
	Neither
	6 (100%)
	2 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[yurbud]

1. they exist independently, but racism is enlisted to support capitalism

[Live and Learn]

9. I think that is probably true. nt

[jfern]

2. They can certainly exist independently

But I'd say capitalism contributes to racism.

[daleanime]

5. +1

[PatrickforO]

3. Capitalism, or rather the love of money, otherwise known as greed,

is the root of all evil. History is rife with examples of groups of people being turned against each other so the turds that are exploiting them can continue to do so.

[Scootaloo]

4. Capitalism lays all the groundwork for racism

Isolationist individuality, cutthroat social Darwinism, the drive and "need" to dominate others, even to the point of literally owning them.

Mind, capitalism is not the sole cause - racism of course predates capitalism - but it also happens to reward racism.

[cheapdate]

6. The root problem is assholes.

Racists are an especially disgusting subset of assholes.

Capitalism is the most effective asshole creation system ever devised. It rewards assholes. It takes borderline assholes and turns them into full assholes. It takes full assholes and turns them into raging assholes.

Racist, capitalist, assholes are doubly obnoxious. They are assholes with money and power.

Left unchecked by traditional cooperative institutions, assholes and asshole capitalism will destroy a society.

[artislife]

7. I think you can be racist without capitalism

I think it is easier to keep capitalism going with racism...

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. Racism, capitalism and imperialism are all very closely linked systems of domination that reinforce

Modern racism, capitalism and imperialism are all very closely linked systems of domination that reinforce each other.

Kind of a chicken an egg thing. They all developed together.

I don't see any point in trying to turn it into a strict binary choice of which one is first.

It's not like there's a correct answer.

That's for modern racism.

In medieval and ancient times they had different forms of things like racism, exploitation, and empire.

[delrem]

10. They are distinct concepts!

There are parallel problems!
But they are not the same, and one isn't consequence of the other.

I think it's better to look at the problems as those of
-> economic injustice (rather than just w.r.t. capitalism)
and those of
-> injustices w.r.t. human identity (rather than just w.r.t. racial/ethnic identity).

The permutations are endless.

I think we can truly say that (injustice w.r.t.) economic/military power can forcefully impose or magnify injustices w.r.t. human identity.

[applegrove]

11. 'Unfettered capitalism' is the words you should have

used.