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[newfie11]

2. This would definitely rule out Biden for me

I had no idea he was involved in both of those.

[beveeheart]

3. If I remember correctly

he voted for it because of the influence of credit card companies in Delaware.

[Demeter]

4. That's not even a good excuse, let alone a good reason

[treestar]

22. Yes, it is

They were employing a lot of people in Delaware at the time. Senators represent their states. They don't do what you think is "right." They do what the people in their states need.

[appalachiablue]

5. The go to guy for the bankruptcy bill and the 1994 Clinton crime bill that's damaged many

black and brown persons for non violent offenses and from harsher sentences, all to increase profits for the exploitive, and lucrative privatized prison industrial complex (PIC).

Biden was also very close to the banking industry in Delaware, and involved with the Anita Hill, Clarence Thomas proceedings in aiding suppression of further evidence I believe.

Overall Vice President Biden has many years of experience to his credit and also is a personable, reliable, likeable and very skilled politician and party faithful in the Democratic political system.

[tokenlib]

6. But he was from Delaware.. And HAD to do it..

Or so I keep getting told....

[99Forever]

7. It kills any chance he ever had of being Pres.

But feel free to run Joe, Hillary needs the help.

[turbinetree]

8. When you are now forced ...............................

if you are on Social Security and cannot pay for your education, which you were told would help you (retrain) to get a job after it was outsourced by a "trade deals" and the current one TPP coming into play,and now that the oligarchy have bought everything in the legislative system ,you can have your social security check garnished to pay for that education---------------you cannot submit a claim for bankruptcy because of this law.
If you have a job making $7.25 and you have banks bankrupting your savings, homes, and anything else that is not tied down because of there greed and you get laid off and are using unemployment benefits to survive, the bankruptcy law does not save you, -----------you have to pay under chapter 11, there basically is no chapter 13, unless after you lose everything and are standing on a street corner with a card board sign you still don't get relief, they can still come after you.



And for all of you out there in the hinder land some of your past senators are not there , but it is a very fair question to ask those that now are in this chamber how they would have voted if they were in office at that time.
And if they give some mealy mouth response that it is already law, then a fair questions is if they would over turn this law

You will note that one senator did not vote---------------her husband was having heart surgery

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00044

http://jinchi.blogspot.com/2007/03/hillary-clinton-and-bankruptcy-bill-of.html



Honk---------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[Ilsa]

11. A very fair post which shows how screwed we are.

Student loans have become a big scam, thanks to moving it to the private sector and trade deals. Sometimes I think politicians want the US to break up.

[Bluenorthwest]

9. Joe was also a DOMA yes voter. I voted for Obama in spite of his choice of Joe not because of it.

Also voted for DADT. He's Senator What's In Your Wallet.

[ToxMarz]

10. Can't he just say his position has evolved

[Sunlei]

13. so you're the exact same person you were 10, 20, 30 years ago?

[Sunlei]

12. who in your book is pure enough to be president of the usa?

[seafan]

14. Joe Biden's Forgotten Disgrace: His treatment of Anita Hill in 1991

Joe Biden has two major problems if he decides to run for the presidency. Here is one.


Here is another.


Joe Biden's Forgotten Disgrace


Anita Hill testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee. (via USNews)

I know, I know, everyone loves Joe with the winning grin. Everyone but me with the long memory.

By Joe I mean Joseph R. Biden Jr., the affable vice president, who will be 74 if sworn in as president on Jan. 20, 2017. It's a safe bet Clarence Thomas will still be kicking around this town then. They are forever locked in as the principal male characters in Washington's watershed drama on sexual harassment. The Thomas Supreme Court confirmation hearing riveted the nation in the fall of 1991. (Thanks, George H.W. Bush.) Did Thomas intimidate Biden into cutting the hearing short without calling further witnesses?

It's hard to know, but the reason Thomas is sitting silently on the Supreme Court – for 22 years and counting – can be traced back to Biden. If you've seen the new documentary, "Anita," it jogs your memory clearly and cleanly regarding what went down. Of all the Senate Democrats, Biden failed most miserably. The close 52 to 48 vote might have broken differently if he had displayed grit under fire.

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The Senate Judiciary Committee hearing was a searing experience building to a crescendo over several days. As chairman, Biden virtually handed the gavel to Thomas at a critical point. He allowed three senators – Orrin Hatch, Alan Simpson and the late Arlen Spector – to viciously besmirch Anita Hill, a painstakingly proper law professor who came forward to testify that Thomas had sexually harassed her with lewd language and social invitations as her boss at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

In the documentary, Hill emerges content with a new lease of life, with no regrets about telling her truth. As the documentary points out, it became a question of her character on trial, when Thomas was the subject of the hearing and often out of the room. When he came back, he furiously declared the hearing a "high tech lynching," a statement that rocked the row of senators into silence. Of course, even if it was wrong, this hostility packed quite a punch.

The coup de grace was accompanied by Biden's nervous assurances: "You have the benefit of the doubt, Judge." There was no legal precedent for such a claim on truth or guilt in a Supreme Court hearing. But Biden kept saying that fateful phrase on national television. The late Sen. Robert C. Byrd challenged Biden publicly by saying the country should have the benefit of the doubt. Byrd was a lone voice in the wind, which was blowing Thomas's way.

For the record, not many who voted for Thomas remain in the Senate. But if just a few had had the courage to vote against their party, taking Hill at her word, we might not have to endure endless extremism from one of the justices on the highest court.

The group includes Republican Sens. Dan Coats, Thad Cochran, Charles Grassley, John McCain, Orrin Hatch, Mitch McConnell and Richard Shelby. If I see them in the halls, I'll be sure to tell them about "Anita." Maybe their minds have moved on Thomas over the years, but somehow I doubt it.

Elections really do have consequences.

[appalachiablue]

18. Excellent post that would be great OP. In 1991 that awful event was a disgrace to

to Ms. Hill, all women and the nation. And look what we got on SCOTUS as a result like you say. I really look forward to seeing the film "Anita".

[Gloria]

15. Not to mention: Anita Hill, teaming up with Bush to pass the

odious, false "Partial Birth Abortion" crap (no such thing), gaffes, plagiarism charges and GROPING of wives on tape...

Biden is now jerking everyone around...ever since he said he was considering a run to "memorialize" his son...well, that's no reason to run....

[Baitball Blogger]

20. He should have given Anita Hill his full support.

He had a moment to make a difference, and he made the wrong choice. And he has done that several times.

I think his time to ascend is over.

[uponit7771]

16. None of the candidates can throw a stone...

[stupidicus]

17. if only that was his only "mistake"...

http://www.cnet.com/news/joe-bidens-pro-riaa-pro-fbi-tech-voting-record/

to hell with him and his big brother ways, and the happy face he'd put on them...

[Baitball Blogger]

19. If Biden comes in, it will only be as a strategic spoiler.

He can't win. So the question is, will his participation help Hillary or Bernie Sanders?

[treestar]

21. The average person does not care

And thinks they will never have to declare bankruptcy.

[jeff47]

23. He also voted for a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v Wade.

Biden's record has a lot of things to distance himself from.

[Gloria]

24. Now THAT has to be broadast far and wide

We don't need a Pope in the White House....