Bernie Sanders To Pit His BULLDOG STYLE vs Clinton In First Debate

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“There is nobody better at delivering a message than Bernie,” said Republican Richard Tarrant, a wealthy businessman who lost a 2006 Senate race to Sanders. “His style is a little gruff. You can poke at him and get him angry, but he’s good at rolling out of it,” he said. “He’s got numbers, he’s got facts, and if he gets caught by surprise he’ll shift really quickly to his stump message. I don’t think Hillary stands a chance against him.” John MacGovern, a Republican who challenged Sanders unsuccessfully in 2012, said he was determined not to let Sanders “walk all over me” during their four debates, including a one-on-one radio encounter. He said Sanders repeatedly tried to interrupt him in one debate as he answered a question about federal funding for women’s healthcare provider Planned Parenthood but relented once MacGovern pushed back.

“If you didn’t fight back, he would just badger you,” MacGovern said. “He may not have been on the national stage before, but I do not think it will faze him in the slightest. He will say what he believes and it will be very easy for him.”

Sanders has had plenty of debate practice over the years. He first ran for public office in 1972, losing four statewide races before winning the Burlington mayor’s office by 10 votes in 1981. He was re-elected mayor three times, served eight terms in the U.S. House of Representatives and is in his second U.S. Senate term. Paul Lafayette, a Democratic city council member in Burlington who squared off against Sanders in a series of 1987 mayoral debates, said Sanders was a natural debater.

“I’ve never seen him back down from anyone or anything,” Lafayette said, although Sanders has “calmed down” over the years. Sanders’ message has been so consistent that he is “giving the same speech now that he was giving when he was mayor of Burlington.”

Yet Sanders’ consistency is one weakness Clinton could exploit, MacGovern said. He said Clinton’s campaign “can figure out their replies to him right now – he’s very predictable.” Joe Trippi, a Democratic strategist who helped former Vermont Governor Howard Dean make the transition to the national political stage in the 2004 race, said Sanders should have no trouble with the jump. “It’s a lot easier when you are the insurgent,” Trippi said. “There is a sort of self selection — everyone else took a pass, but you are the one who decided to take on Hillary Clinton. So I don’t think it’s in his DNA to be afraid.”



cont'

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/bernie-sanders-to-pit-his-bulldog-style-against-clinton-in-first-debate-i-dont-think-hillary-stands-a-chance/

[Metric System]

1. Says a Republican.

[Scootaloo]

3. A republican who got his ass handed to him by Sanders in debate.

[Metric System]

48. I knew that would be the response. That doesn't make him an expert on a Hillary vs Bernie debate.

[Scootaloo]

53. It does clue him in on HOW Sanders debates, though.

Which is what the article is about.

[Metric System]

64. That part's fine. I'm just referring to "I don’t think Hillary stands a chance against him," which

was originally part of the OP's headline (and is in the article).

[Scootaloo]

68. I suppose the author has seen Clinton debate before.

I hear she's run for president in the past

[MADem]

104. Sanders was THE ONLY representative for the State of VT. He had as much presence

and familiarity as any US Senator might, amongst a small population of 630K people in the entire state--many of whom knew him personally, and had met/seen/talked to him at least once.

The "unknown" was the GOP 'businessman' clown who got beat. Sanders was 'their guy,' he was Old Familiar on that stage. He could have read the phone book and beaten that guy.

In fact, he beat him like a rented mule, to put it kindly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Vermont,_2006


I suppose, when the electoral map looks like THIS, you've gotta pretend that the guy is a "tough debater" so you don't look like an imcompetent buffoon who thought you could bigfoot your way into the Senate...I mean, seriously, who thinks a guy who lost this badly was "tough" competition?



I mean, really--OWCH. That's like Nixon - McGovern, only flipped. Sanders took sixty five percent of the vote, and most of the districts.

Campaign[edit]
In mid-August 2006, the campaign heated up considerably, with Tarrant fully engaged in heavy media advertising, most of which criticized Sanders' public stances. Tarrant ran several ads accusing Sanders of representing himself differently from his voting record in the House of Representatives, citing such examples as Sanders' votes against Amber Alert and against increased penalties for child pornography. Sanders responded with an ad stating that Tarrant's claims are "dishonest" and "distort my record" and presented what he viewed as more accurate explanations of his voting record.
Endorsements[edit]
Since Sanders was allied with the Democrats in the House of Representatives, Democratic leadership successfully dissuaded any serious challengers from their party. Sanders was endorsed by prominent Democrats such as DNC Chairman and former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, and Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. On February 13, 2005 Sanders received an endorsement from Democracy for America, the political action committee that was founded by Dean after he withdrew from the 2004 Presidential race.[3]
Fundraising[edit]
The election was the most expensive political campaign in Vermont history.[4]
Tarrant was a self-funded candidate, with 98% of all his campaign expenditures coming from personal sources. He spent $7,315,854 total.[5] Sanders' top contributors include the plaintiffs' law firm Baron & Budd; the International Union of Operating Engineers; the Laborers' International Union of North America; and the Communication Workers of America. Sanders raised $5,554,466 total.[6] In total, Tarrant and Sanders spent $13,771,060.[5] Tarrant spent $85 per vote, the largest cost per vote of any race in the country during 2006, while Sanders spent $34 per vote.[7]

Hillary Clinton also helped Sanders win this race with contributions from HILLPAC.

[Scootaloo]

110. Congratulations MADem

You've just shown us you can't tell the difference between debates and an election.

[Aerows]

22. A Republican nobody now, because he got his clock cleaned.

It is no secret that the DNC is trying to get Hillary into as little debate time as possible.

We all know why. She's really good at tepid platitudes, but if you ask her a direct question, she crumbles into boilerplate stoicism that you can tell even she doesn't believe.

The Hillary folks are backing the wrong horse. Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are almost universally reviled by both parties, despite both naively thinking they had it sewn up.

Nobody wants another Bush or another Clinton. Get over it. No amount of money, unless they press 50's in the hands of voters right before they enter the polls is going to change it. Hell, I'd wave off the Grant for the sake of principle to pull the lever for somebody other than those two.

[Metric System]

46. "Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are almost universally reviled by both parties" Complete BS. Hillary

has a high favorability score among self-described Democrats.

[Aerows]

49. I hope that holding onto those favorability scores

from whatever dubious source you got them from helps you sleep comfortably at night.

[Metric System]

54. Dubious source? Polls have CONSISTENTLY shown Hillary as well-liked by Democrats. From early Sep.:

"A full 80 percent of Democrats view Clinton favorably, compared with 70 percent who feel that way about Biden. Her number among African Americans is 79 percent, and it's 68 percent among Hispanics."

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9247783/clinton-declining-poll-numbers

[Aerows]

58. And there you have it. *Declining* poll numbers.

We are a good 13 months from the GE, and 4 months before the real rubber meets the road.

As a politician, especially a seasoned one like Hillary, there is nothing I'd like more than to see my favorability go down in polls 4 months before the first Primary vote.

Well, no, I wouldn't want that at all.

[Metric System]

62. Read the article again. Her favorability rating among Dems is high.

[MADem]

101. Bingo. nt

[restorefreedom]

2. says someone who had his ass handed to him

courtesy of bernie

and for the last fucking time joe trippi,

BERNIE IS NOT AN INSURGENT!!!

learn how to use a dictionary, moron

[INdemo]

38. I don't think Trippi is involved in Sanders Campaign

Its Tad Devine and he had two successful
Campaigns Gore and Kerry They just happen to stolen
IN 2004 none in the DNC fought that hard for Kerry because
McCauffie was setting Hillary up for the 2008 campaign

[Fred Sanders]

4. One day there will be an attack OP at DU not authored or linked to the RW but today is not the day.

[A Simple Game]

43. You think this is an attack?

I don’t think Hillary stands a chance against him.”

That's the worst thing I could find in the post and don't think it comes near being an attack.

You are one sensitive person. Maybe you should stay away from Bernie threads.

[oasis]

5. Bullying a woman won't play well. (eom)

[hifiguy]

13. See Joe Biden v. Princess Sparklemoose, 2008.

He absolutely crushed her while remaining a complete gentleman.

[azmom]

24. Sparklemoose. LOL N/t

[a kennedy]

37. ha ha ha Sparklemoose......

[Aerows]

51. Every time I think you can't top your own witticisms,

you come right back and do it again!



You are a freaking gem, hifiguy

[hifiguy]

56. Thank you.

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I was raised on a diet of Groucho, Bugs, Mad magazine, then Monty Python and the National Lampoon when I was a little older. And I have never been one to let a good one-liner escape me.

ETA - I am a master of the half-witticism.

[senz]

67. Now I envy your upbringing. Sounds delightful!

[hifiguy]

72. I was an only child and extremely precocious.

My parents always encouraged me to read anything that I found interesting. Discovered MAD at about 9 ( I was reading at 3 and at a 3rd grade level by age 5), loved Bugs Bunny cartoons as far back as I can remember, and found the Marx Bros on late nite teevee at 12.

Hoovered down a set of World Book encyclopedias between the ages of 7 and 11, at least any topic I was remotely interested in.

[senz]

73. Well you turned out okay.

I was surprised when you said you'd read something like 10 books on Nixon. Sounds like you're still precocious, hifiguy. I'd ask what you decided to do with your obvious intelligence but somehow that's probably the kind of pressure you had to deal with as a precocious kid, so I'll just hope it's brought you a reasonably happy and interesting life.

My big brothers had MAD magazines but I was too literal minded to grasp the humor, just found it puzzling and intriguing. I felt kind of sorry for the what me worry guy and thought the good spy/bad spy characters represented types of adults. No wonder I grew up so confused.

[hifiguy]

78. I'm dx'd Asperger's

Which came as a relief and as no surprise ten years ago after I learned what it was. There were other people like me and there was a name for it. Whew!

My life has been a very mixed bag. Dropped out of high school at 16 because I was afraid of my social dysfunctionality but I needn't have bothered. It was the golden era of the stoners and I wound up being a pretty serious stoner with a lot of stoner friends for most of the 1970s, playing bass and wishing I was in Yes. Decided to go to college at 24, graduated summa, and got into nine of the ten law schools I applied to.

Graduated from a top Ivy League law school, where I did well, but bombed out in a very social profession - law. It's a long and rather interesting story, but it would be better if it had happened to somebody else, IMO. I am thinking of writing a book about it.

Were I a Brit, I would be a cherished eccentric, in the US, if you're a little unusual you're an unemployable nut, especially if you're not particularly social. Frank Burns on MASH summed up the US perfectly when he said that "individuality is a wonderful thing as long as we all do it together."

Why couldn't I have got the math gene that so many people on the spectrum get? Then I'd have been an astronomer, astrophysicist, cosmologist or theoretical physicist, where being a little odd is a requirement, not a disqualifier.

[senz]

81. Well these are usually very nice people.

But I would advise you to consider deleting your comment because it might be too much self-disclosure in a forum like this. I'm thinking of your well-being, hifiguy. You need to protect yourself. Not everyone reading this is a kind, good person. Please think it over.

And I understand your situation better than you might imagine.

[hifiguy]

82. I am not disclosing anything I haven't said on DU before.

I've gotten alert-stalked and received some very nasty PMs from HoFers, many of whom now have apparently relocated, over the years but nothing more, and nothing in the year-plus since I returned to DU after a year-long break.

I did modify the post a bit, though.

[senz]

90. Okay, thanks.

I hate worrying about people. I have a high opinion of Aspies. The absence of phoniness is refreshing, and I've found that socializing can be an incredibly empty, pointless exercise, especially when it's used to establish and maintain hierarchies. There's a skinny little book that might interest you; you could probably read it in an hour or two. A friend bought two copies and gave one to me. It's not great literature by a long shot, but the author has paid attention to the vast spectrum of human types and has some valuable insights, as well as pretty good advice. It's called A Field Guide to Earthlings by Ian Ford.

Thanks so much for sharing. You sound very intelligent and accomplished, and I think gifts are given to people for many reasons, including the pure, simple joys of learning and exploring and understanding.

One question: what are HoFers?

[hifiguy]

93. Members of a certain protected group here on DU

When I got my diagnosis and had a name for it, I explained it to a lot of friends with a very simple metaphor - "You know Star Trek? I am Data or Mr. Spock, but with a quirky sense of humor." That got the point across.

I read like a fiend. Mostly nonfiction, because Iwant to be learning something new. Lots of cosmology an theoretical physics for most of the last year. Gads, I wish I could understand the math! I can actually get my head around the concepts, and those seem to baffle most people.

[senz]

99. Ah, I didn't know there were such.

Getting your head around the concepts is the challenging part -- and probably the exciting part, as well. Math is an awfully big umbrella term. I couldn't handle arithmetic and algebra but found geometry and weird things like Boolean Algebra and symbolic logic ridiculously easy. Supposedly these cognitive differences are due to variations in brain structures.

Since Aspies tend to be visual thinkers, it might be a good idea to offer subjects like cosmology and physics in the form of animated cartoons utilizing diagrams and graphs and such; maybe that could bypass the math. I never understood gravity until seeing a TED talk by Brian Greene on the subject of string theory. At one point, he shows celestial bodies on a kind of blanket (warped space) that sags under their weight thus pulling them closer to one another. The animated illustration brought gravity home to me. Here's the video, if you haven't seen it yet:

I think it's great that you're exploring the fascinating aspects of the world, and universe, we live in. I wish I could still read like a fiend; age seems to be taking its toll on my eyes, and a scattered attention span doesn't help either. I do my best reading in coffee houses, for some reason.

[beam me up scottie]

65. !

[Control-Z]

88. Yes, but you're all talking about

"..Sanders To Pit His BULLDOG STYLE vs Clinton"

Joe Biden is a gentleman who would never pit BULLDOG STYLE debating against anyone let alone a woman.

I want to point out that I copied and pasted my Sanders comment directly from the OP.

[hifiguy]

91. I identify "Bulldog style" with tenacity

and an unwillingness to be talked over or distracted.

Bulldogs are noted for courage and tenacity, not "bullying." Not the same words. Not at all. And Joe's true opinion of Palin's vacuousness was very much evident, albeit somewhat between the lines.

[Control-Z]

94. Of course you do. (nt)

[Segami]

14. There's a big difference

between being a 'bully' and being a 'bulldog' in a debate.

[oasis]

89. Bernie had better play it safe and avoid both. (eom)

[frylock]

100. or naw

[oasis]

106. If I didn't like Bernie so well, I'd say "go for it".

I'd rather see him extend his viability for a while. His message needs to get out to as many as possible.

[frylock]

108. If you like Bernie now, you'll really like him as President.

[oasis]

109. Yeah, I'd like a mansion in Malibu to go along with that dream.

[Duckhunter935]

103. She can't handle being treated

Equally as a candidate? Does she need to be protected from the big mean man?

[oasis]

105. Hill can handle getting roughed up, but can those that do

the roughing up handle the bad press which is sure to follow?

[Duckhunter935]

107. I am sure who will be pushing that

Narrative.

[frylock]

111. Surely, there will be someone to Correct the Record.

[CTyankee]

16. I don't think Bernie would bully a woman. I think he is as pro-woman as anyone can get.

Chris Christie, on the other hand. would.

[senz]

61. Agreed. Bernie is a gentleman.

[oasis]

87. Not looking for Bernie to be harsh or to lay an egg either. (eom)

[cherokeeprogressive]

98. He's not going to have to bully Hillary to make her look like she's a weathervane.

She'll do that all on her own.

[brooklynite]

6. Perhaps you'd like to tweak your title?

...to make it clear that it's not Bernie saying it?

Or not...

[hifiguy]

9. I've been saying it for a while here.

Two hours on the stage with Martin and Bernie - both of whom are perfectly willing and able to give straight answers even to tough questions - and there will be nothing left of HRH but a pair of smoking shoes and a greenish-gray miasma of vaporous Turd Way platitudes floating into the lights.

[GummyBearz]

18. I can picture it now...

"there will be nothing left of HRH but a pair of smoking shoes and a greenish-gray miasma of vaporous Turd Way platitudes floating into the lights."

Sounds great

[JDPriestly]

74. Let's be careful. It depends on the questions.

I think it will be an interesting debate.

But everything depends on the questions although Benrie is very good at answering questions so as to focus on the issues he believes are most important.

And I support him on that.

Newscasters can ask very stupid questions at times.

[workinclasszero]

10. So Bernie plans to bully Hillary?

Yeah we will see how that sits with the American public.

Thanks for the info.

[workinclasszero]

20. Right wing my ass

Hillary is one of the most liberal people running and that's a fact.

She sure as hell didn't protect the big gun business like Bernie has done either!

[beam me up scottie]

25. Pssst! "Hillary is one of the most liberal people running and that's a fact."

Clinton 'pleads guilty' to being a moderate


You're welcome!

[workinclasszero]

32. Hillary Clinton was the 11th most liberal member of the senate

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/31/1374629/-Hillary-Clinton-Was-the-11th-Most-Liberal-Member-of-the-Senate

[beam me up scottie]

35. Hillary: "You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center. I plead guilty."

Even she knows she can't run as the most liberal candidate, that's why she's appealing to moderates.

[SoapBox]

39. Sorry! She's evolved again!

NOW, as of September 2015 she's become a Moderate and a Centrist...she no Proggressive.

Camp Weathervane spun when you weren't looking.

[beam me up scottie]

41. Who compares Bernie to Hillary and then claims she's the most liberal?

Martin O'Malley is more liberal than her too.

[geardaddy]

50. exactly

[beam me up scottie]

60. HOLY SMOKES!!! Bernie is #1???

Thank you, geardaddy!

You are all kinds of awesome for finding that!

[Segami]

34. LOL!

[beam me up scottie]

36. Right? She said it herself.

[Segami]

40. Right from the horse's mouth to my ears...

[Aerows]

63. This campaign season brings out the worst in some of the contenders

But the very best in some DUers.

I love it!

[2pooped2pop]

21. wow really? Where did you read that?

Surely not in this thread. I don't see any direct quotes from Bernie at all. It may seem to you that whipping her in the debates is bullying. It is not.

[workinclasszero]

45. Oh I guess it's the BULLDOG Bernie

And the scowling picture of him jeez

Bernies worst enemies are his rabid followers.

[senz]

70. It's not often I agree with a Hillary supporter

but I agree that this OP does not do justice to a very decent, nice man.

[pnwmom]

79. The OP's article says he "bulldogs," "badgers," "interrupts," and acts "gruff."

If he behaves that way he could come across as a bully.

[ejbr]

47. If Russia, China et. al

Will bully the next president, then they will appreciate how she fares. It's all good.

[Fred Sanders]

59. This entire OP is....silly...the suggestion of a "bulldog" style "fight" is as childish as RW tripe.

[Flying Squirrel]

66. Bulldog = bully?

I think the term refers to latching on tightly to something and refusing to let go... Say, to a particular issue. But whatever floats your boat!

[frazzled]

12. A "bulldog" style can be off-putting to many people

And especially to women voters, who, after all, represent a majority. An aggressive, overly assertive male style may feel scary, paternalistic, macho, or just plain bullying to many. Especially if one or more of the other candidates is a woman.

Just saying.

[CTyankee]

19. I'm a woman and a huge Bernie supporter. I would not support him if I felt he were

any of those things you listed. He doesn't make personal attacks. He attacks a rotten system and the persistence of a rotten system and forcefully explains why it is bad.

My husband is a huge Hillary supporter and we get along fine politcally. He very much wants to see a woman president and I can't fault him for that.

[frazzled]

71. But your taste in style may not be the same as others'

No one said he would make personal attacks. The OP was arguing for the sure-fire appeal of a "bulldog" style in the debates. I was saying that not all people find that style to be one they find attractive.

I'm not even saying Sanders will go "bulldog" in a debate. Indeed, I'm sure he'll be carefully coached to smooth out all the edges in his responses. I was responding in general to the notion that bulldogging in and of itself is a positive in a politician. DU seems to have a general predilection for fiery, take-no-prisoner personalities. (Anthony Weiner and Alan Grayson were faves until the seams started to show. I also think Obama's generally cool demeanor plays a factor in the distaste that many here show for him.) But it's not appealing to everyone. I can't, in fact, think of a single presidential candidate in our times who won by bulldogging.

We're not talking about policies or positions in this thread. We're talking style. Whether or not Sanders has a bulldog style is up for debate itself. I, personally, would not describe him in that way. (I might say he sounds grouchy at times, and sometimes dogmatic.)

I think people are looking for strength, command of facts, reasonableness, and a certain degree of geniality. I would think all our Democratic candidates will display that kind of presidential demeanor in the debates. I am not expecting "bulldogging."

[CTyankee]

76. this is what I am talking about....

I think people are looking for strength, command of facts, reasonableness, and a certain degree of geniality. I would think all our Democratic candidates will display that kind of presidential demeanor in the debates.

[pnwmom]

77. The OP says he "bulldogs," "badgers," "interrupts," and acts "gruff."

If he does behave that way, he could put many people off -- at least non-New Yorkers.

[CTyankee]

83. I don't care what the OP says. Bernie is not like that IMO.

He just states the way it is for ordinary people. I can't see how bad that could be?

[Armstead]

33. That drives me crazy. "Go easy on the women candidates"

While I certainly endorse good manners, and don't support sexist attacks (see Trump), and otherwise inappropriate behavior (see: Rick Lazio), it drives me crazy to hear that male candidates can't be strong and forceful when debating female candidates. It strikes me as sexist, and assumes that women politicians have to be treated as fragile flowers who can't stand up for themselves.

[A Simple Game]

52. It's also insulting to a woman that is running for President to imply that she may be

adversely affected by someone that is in any way brash.

If you can't take it in a debate how will you handle the world stage? Even as a Bernie supporter I expect better from Hillary than it seems some of her supporters do.

[beam me up scottie]

26. New meme: Bernie will bully Hillary at the debates

This is the excuse that will be used when she loses, not because she's always been a lousy debater.

[hifiguy]

30. Eeyup.

[beam me up scottie]

31. As a woman I despise this kind of tactic.

In my field if you can't hold your own against the men you have no business being there.

[SoapBox]

42. Bernie the Bully!

Boy, they stirred up that attack pretty fast!



All ya Hill supporters may want to re-think that meme REAL hard.

If everyone starts whining that he bullied her...well, then she will be seen as WEAK!

Oh heck, go ahead and run with that!

[beam me up scottie]

44. The PUMAs wore out that excuse in 2008.

It won't fly this time.

[senz]

57. I was shocked to see this OP. It's disgusting.

I thought the OP writer was a Bernie supporter.

[Capt. Obvious]

85. If his supporters are any indication

Bernie will bully her right off the stage to a secret debate stage.

[beam me up scottie]

86. !

Where people can complain about debate stalking and rec circles.

[randys1]

27. First debate is at WYNN's LAs Vegas? Owner is a rightwing asshole.

Or is he one of those Democrats who just happens to hate Obama for some reason, because as I recall , he hates Obama.

Why WYNN's?

[Fred Sanders]

69. That is indeed a concern....Might have to ask CNN why?! Jeff Zucker, you have the answer maybe!?

[azmom]

28. Someone posted the video

Of a debate of Terrant and Bernie. I thought Bernie went easy on him.

[beam me up scottie]

29. It's only a matter of time before someone else posts Tarrant style attacks here.

And just like with Tarrant, it won't end well.

[senz]

55. Sorry, but there is nothing "bulldog" about Bernie Sanders.

I've listened to him for years on the Thom Hartmann Show taking questions from call-ins, and he has been consistently gracious with everyone, including those who disagreed with him.

Running for president, when asked questions about Hillary, he has always been considerate and polite. He says he likes and respect her.

This "bulldog" meme sure sounds like a slam against Bernie.

The only "bulldog" in the debate will be Hillary. I remember how she badgered Obama in the 2008 debates.

[KoKo]

92. He is Tenacious--and we have Repubs who have been winning on

being "Bull Dogs."

So whichever he is ....we need a fighter! And, we have one in Bernie!

We thought Obama was a fighter but he just never could seem to find those "comfortable walking shoes" to Walk his Talk.

[pnwmom]

75. If he "badgers," "bulldogs," "interrupts," and acts "gruff,"

I don't think he'll be perceived as having won the debate.

He'll just be perceived as being rude.

New Yorkers might like that style, but much of middle America does not.

[grasswire]

96. considering that much of middle America is in thrall to a rude bully right now...

....I don't think much of your point.

[frylock]

102. You should post this a fourth time..

make sure that it really sinks in.

[orpupilofnature57]

80. No speech coaches or mannerism trainer, just the facts and figures will make him Shine .

[sabrina 1]

84. Can't wait for the debates!

[orpupilofnature57]

97. Me too !

[floriduck]

95. Will this be a battle of

Bernie 's bulldog approach versus Hillary's bullshit style? The masses want to see it. Stand back, Mr O'Malley!!

[McCamy Taylor]

112. Not is he really wants to win, he won't.

If he is in the race the protect Clinton from the left, then sure, play the angry radical socialist. America will eat it up. And no other challenge from the left will stand a chance.