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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:42 AM Oct 2015

HILLARY'S message to 'Urban America'. Respect gun culture.

“You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl,” she said.

“You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. It’s part of culture. It’s part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter.”


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/clinton-touts-her-experience-with-guns/

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HILLARY'S message to 'Urban America'. Respect gun culture. (Original Post) Luminous Animal Oct 2015 OP
Kick. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #1
Martin O’Malley, citing his record in Maryland, asserts himself on gun control. elleng Oct 2015 #2
K&R azmom Oct 2015 #3
Oh dear. Hillary is pro-2A? That's going to burst some bubbles. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #4
She was in 2008. Who knows which way the weathervane has turned now? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #7
. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #8
? Metric System Oct 2015 #23
She was when she needed to use it as ammo against a rival candidate. cui bono Oct 2015 #13
I know that, and YOU know that, but how many of her supporters realize it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #14
Fuck that. zappaman Oct 2015 #5
When she wanted to tear into Obama for his "bibles and guns" comment Scootaloo Oct 2015 #6
Hillary hits Obama on faith, guns beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #9
That should be an OP. I find it reprensible when politicians USE horrible tragedies for political sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #12
I came across this too. bvf Oct 2015 #10
Well, she's evolved. Otoh, she was correct here. Farmers all have guns to protect sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #11
Okay, this error came up again even after rebooting. edgineered Oct 2015 #15
She is right about that. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #16
What I want to know....was she "shootin' at some food"? virtualobserver Oct 2015 #17
"Clinton says she has hunted ducks" yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #18
Thanks Mr. Peabody MyNameGoesHere Oct 2015 #19
How do you think she shot her way outta Bosnia.......SHE'S a frothing, GUN NUT!!!!! Indepatriot Oct 2015 #20
The fact is, almost all gun owners in America are highly responsible. They're our friends Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #21
You know, there is a difference between guns used for hunting and other guns, right? Metric System Oct 2015 #22
Bullets are worse than guns. Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #24

elleng

(133,119 posts)
2. Martin O’Malley, citing his record in Maryland, asserts himself on gun control.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:46 AM
Oct 2015

O’Malley, a former mayor of Baltimore, called for four reforms on the national level: a ban on “combat assault weapons”; a requirement that those who purchase guns get licenses and be fingerprinted; a law making gun trafficking a federal crime; and a commitment from the federal government to purchase firearms only from companies that use “the latest and best safety technology.”

“I know that not everyone in this room has made a decision about what candidate you will support,” O’Malley said Sunday night. “But I also know this is New Hampshire and that some of you have. So I’m asking supporters of Senator Sanders to please urge Senator Sanders to back these four common-sense provisions that I just laid out to reduce gun violence. And I am asking the supporters of Secretary Clinton to please urge Secretary Clinton to back the specific provisions that I just laid out.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/04/martin-omalley-citing-his-record-in-maryland-asserts-himself-on-gun-control/

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
13. She was when she needed to use it as ammo against a rival candidate.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:10 AM
Oct 2015

If you recall, that was in response to that blurb of Obama's.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. I know that, and YOU know that, but how many of her supporters realize it?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:11 AM
Oct 2015

I'm guessing the gun issue will go away overnight.


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. Hillary hits Obama on faith, guns
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:58 AM
Oct 2015
Hillary hits Obama on faith, guns

Yesterday, Clinton hit Obama for calling Pennsylvanians "bitter," ground on which he fairly ably engaged.
Today, she's onto the other half of his San Francisco remarks, in which he linked economic frustration to clinging to religion and guns (the part he sought to walk back this morning in Muncie, Ind.).

"Sen. Obama's remarks are elitist, and they are out of touch," Clinton said. "The people of faith I know don't 'cling to' religion because they're bitter. ... I also disagree with Sen. Obama's assertion that people in this country 'cling to guns' and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration. People of all walks of life hunt — and they enjoy doing so because it's an important part of their life, not because they are bitter."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/04/hillary-hits-obama-on-faith-guns-007747



Hillary Clinton goes bold on gun safety — but she sounded a different note in 2008


But Clinton hasn’t always been so forceful in her fight for gun control. As the Post highlights, Clinton has dramatically shifted her tone on gun control since the 2008 campaign. While Clinton touted her husband’s record record on gun control (former President Bill Clinton signed into the law an assault weapons ban that has since lapsed) she also heralded personal memories of learning to shoot with her father and defend gun ownership, saying, “there is not a contradiction between protecting Second Amendment rights” and the effort to reduce crime.

You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl,” Clinton said while campaigning ahead of the Indiana primary, where white working class Democrats propelled her to a narrow victory over then-Sen. Barack Obama. “You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. It’s part of culture. It’s part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter,” she continued, in a dig at Obama’s remark at a fundraiser that disenfranchised Americans often “cling” to cultural symbols like guns and religion.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/10/hillary_clinton_goes_bold_on_gun_safety_but_she_sounded_a_different_note_in_2008/

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. That should be an OP. I find it reprensible when politicians USE horrible tragedies for political
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:07 AM
Oct 2015

purposes. Sickening and tells me they are not sincere. No decent person is thinking of their political career in the face of a tragedy like the one that just occurred. I look at them all and wonder what kind of people would do this.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
10. I came across this too.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:23 AM
Oct 2015

It should be brought up every time anyone starts in with "Hillary will get tough with the NRA" crap.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. Well, she's evolved. Otoh, she was correct here. Farmers all have guns to protect
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:54 AM
Oct 2015

their livestock from predators. They rarely use them but if their chickens and other animals are threatened they do.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
15. Okay, this error came up again even after rebooting.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:16 AM
Oct 2015

Could it be both a memory error and a faulty thought processor?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. She is right about that.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:55 AM
Oct 2015

Liking to hunt and shoot does not mean you are angry.

But a lot of angry people use guns to express anger.

There is a big difference.

And there are a lot of angry people in America, people who don't fit in. Our society does not put a big enough value on being inclusive on making a place for all of us to feel accepted.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
17. What I want to know....was she "shootin' at some food"?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:57 AM
Oct 2015

“You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton.....

She was a little gun shootin' girl from Pennslyvania, by god! two layers of pandering on that one

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
21. The fact is, almost all gun owners in America are highly responsible. They're our friends
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:04 PM
Oct 2015
and neighbors. They buy their guns legally and use them safely, whether for hunting or target shooting, collection or protection. And that's something that gun-safety advocates need to accept. Likewise, advocates for gun owners should accept the awful reality that gun violence affects Americans everywhere, whether on the streets of Chicago or at a supermarket in Tucson.
- President Barack Obama

http://tucson.com/news/opinion/mailbag/president-obama-we-must-seek-agreement-on-gun-reforms/article_011e7118-8951-5206-a878-39bfbc9dc89d.html

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
22. You know, there is a difference between guns used for hunting and other guns, right?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

"I believe that we need to make sure that certain types of guns used to kill people exclusively -- not for hunting -- they should not be sold in the United States of America."- Bernie Sanders

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-guns_55b54b5fe4b0a13f9d18e1a5

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