2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHILLARY'S message to 'Urban America'. Respect gun culture.
You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl, she said.
You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. Its part of culture. Its part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because its an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/clinton-touts-her-experience-with-guns/
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)elleng
(135,477 posts)OMalley, a former mayor of Baltimore, called for four reforms on the national level: a ban on combat assault weapons; a requirement that those who purchase guns get licenses and be fingerprinted; a law making gun trafficking a federal crime; and a commitment from the federal government to purchase firearms only from companies that use the latest and best safety technology.
I know that not everyone in this room has made a decision about what candidate you will support, OMalley said Sunday night. But I also know this is New Hampshire and that some of you have. So Im asking supporters of Senator Sanders to please urge Senator Sanders to back these four common-sense provisions that I just laid out to reduce gun violence. And I am asking the supporters of Secretary Clinton to please urge Secretary Clinton to back the specific provisions that I just laid out.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/04/martin-omalley-citing-his-record-in-maryland-asserts-himself-on-gun-control/
azmom
(5,208 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(119,966 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)If you recall, that was in response to that blurb of Obama's.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I'm guessing the gun issue will go away overnight.
zappaman
(20,607 posts)I'm sick of "gun culture".
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Yesterday, Clinton hit Obama for calling Pennsylvanians "bitter," ground on which he fairly ably engaged.
Today, she's onto the other half of his San Francisco remarks, in which he linked economic frustration to clinging to religion and guns (the part he sought to walk back this morning in Muncie, Ind.).
"Sen. Obama's remarks are elitist, and they are out of touch," Clinton said. "The people of faith I know don't 'cling to' religion because they're bitter. ... I also disagree with Sen. Obama's assertion that people in this country 'cling to guns' and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration. People of all walks of life hunt and they enjoy doing so because it's an important part of their life, not because they are bitter."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/04/hillary-hits-obama-on-faith-guns-007747
But Clinton hasnt always been so forceful in her fight for gun control. As the Post highlights, Clinton has dramatically shifted her tone on gun control since the 2008 campaign. While Clinton touted her husbands record record on gun control (former President Bill Clinton signed into the law an assault weapons ban that has since lapsed) she also heralded personal memories of learning to shoot with her father and defend gun ownership, saying, there is not a contradiction between protecting Second Amendment rights and the effort to reduce crime.
You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl, Clinton said while campaigning ahead of the Indiana primary, where white working class Democrats propelled her to a narrow victory over then-Sen. Barack Obama. You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. Its part of culture. Its part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because its an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter, she continued, in a dig at Obamas remark at a fundraiser that disenfranchised Americans often cling to cultural symbols like guns and religion.
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/10/hillary_clinton_goes_bold_on_gun_safety_but_she_sounded_a_different_note_in_2008/
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)purposes. Sickening and tells me they are not sincere. No decent person is thinking of their political career in the face of a tragedy like the one that just occurred. I look at them all and wonder what kind of people would do this.
bvf
(6,604 posts)It should be brought up every time anyone starts in with "Hillary will get tough with the NRA" crap.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)their livestock from predators. They rarely use them but if their chickens and other animals are threatened they do.
edgineered
(2,101 posts)Could it be both a memory error and a faulty thought processor?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Liking to hunt and shoot does not mean you are angry.
But a lot of angry people use guns to express anger.
There is a big difference.
And there are a lot of angry people in America, people who don't fit in. Our society does not put a big enough value on being inclusive on making a place for all of us to feel accepted.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton.....
She was a little gun shootin' girl from Pennslyvania, by god! two layers of pandering on that one
yuiyoshida
(42,540 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Appreciate that trip in the WABAC.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)http://tucson.com/news/opinion/mailbag/president-obama-we-must-seek-agreement-on-gun-reforms/article_011e7118-8951-5206-a878-39bfbc9dc89d.html
Metric System
(6,048 posts)"I believe that we need to make sure that certain types of guns used to kill people exclusively -- not for hunting -- they should not be sold in the United States of America."- Bernie Sanders
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-guns_55b54b5fe4b0a13f9d18e1a5
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Much deadlier