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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:54 PM Oct 2015

Employee at Clinton's Email Hosting Company FEARED A COVERUP


Platte River Networks said they were asked to limit backups of her server.

..“Starting to think this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy shit,..”




An employee at the tech company that maintained Hillary Clinton’s homemade email server was concerned that instructions from Clinton's representatives would have the tech firm “covering up some shaddy [sic] shit,” according to emails obtained by Senate investigators. Employees at Denver-based Platte River Networks in a mid-August email chain were trying to find records that showed that the Clinton Executive Service Corp., the company paying the Platte River bill, had instructed them to reduce the length of time backups of Clinton's emails were kept.

“Any chance you found an old email with their directive to cut the backup back in Oct-Feb,” one Platte River employee asked another, according to excerpts of the emails included in a Monday letter from Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.). “I know they had you cut it once in Oct-Nov, then again to 30day in Feb-ish.”


Such a record, the employee said, would be “golden," and would clear the company of outside criticism and point back to Clinton Executive Service Corp., which “appears to be a Clinton family company,” according to the Johnson letter.

“Starting to think this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy shit,” the employee continued. “I just think if we have it in writing that they told us to cut the backups, and we can go public saying we have had backups since day one, then we were told to trim to 30 days, it would make us look a WHOLE LOT better.”


McClatchy first reported on the Johnson letter. The Clinton campaign blasted Johnson for trying to sensationalize the matter for political points. "Ron Johnson is ripping a page from the House Benghazi Committee's playbook and mounting his own, taxpayer-funded sham of an investigation with the sole purpose of attacking Hillary Clinton politically," said campaign spokesman Brian Fallon. "The Justice Department's independent review is led by nonpolitical, career professionals, and Ron Johnson has no business interfering with it for his own partisan ends." In December 2014, Clinton turned over to the State Department about half of her 60,000-plus emails that spanned her time in office as secretary of state. The other 30,000, she said, were “personal” in nature. She said she deleted them.
Republicans and outside groups suing the State Department for documents, however, have questioned whether she turned over all her work-related documents as is required by law — or if her team withheld messages that would have potentially been embarrassing to the Democratic 2016 presidential front-runner.




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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/hillary-clinton-emails-server-214487
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Employee at Clinton's Email Hosting Company FEARED A COVERUP (Original Post) Segami Oct 2015 OP
The IT companies don't want to be held responsible. I don't blame them. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #1
CESC was founded in December 8, 2010. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #3
I wonder why it hasn't been mentioned until now, if this corporation (consisting of...who?) TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #5
It opens another frightening door, worthy of it's own OP. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #9
"to the Clinton Executive Service Corp., which “appears to be a Clinton family company,” MindfulOne Oct 2015 #2
Stunning!!!!!! 99Forever Oct 2015 #4
"...Footnotes in the letter.. Segami Oct 2015 #6
I suggested DUers become familiar with some legal aspects of this: Fawke Em Oct 2015 #10
Because you can have the shit sued out of you and go to the Pen Aerows Oct 2015 #16
Boy, these guys don't spell too well, do they? PatrickforO Oct 2015 #27
CNN.... Segami Oct 2015 #7
Here's a bit more: Rorrie Gregorio and Hillary Clinton: MindfulOne Oct 2015 #8
Who signs and Segami Oct 2015 #13
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #11
That shit is shaddy! zappaman Oct 2015 #12
I think that's a misspelling from the employee - not the OP. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #14
You run an email system Aerows Oct 2015 #20
Biden is waiting in the wings... jalan48 Oct 2015 #15
Clinton Executive Service Corp 2016 frylock Oct 2015 #17
Drip, drip, drip. I am still shocked by the lengths the Clintons go to to maintain secrecy. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #18
This is so desperate and laughable uponit7771 Oct 2015 #19
Very unflattering picture of HRC. Like something you'd see on a Jerome Corsi book-jacket. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #21
and the OP felt it was a great idea to bring it here. dsc Oct 2015 #22
She's a 68 year old woman. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #23
There are lots of more flattering pics of her. And it isn't "minutiae" emulatorloo Oct 2015 #24
I don't care how old either one of them is, was my point. eom Fawke Em Oct 2015 #25
Yep we agree on that. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #26
Yep. And I don't find her unattractive. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #28

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. The IT companies don't want to be held responsible. I don't blame them.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:58 PM
Oct 2015

I'd want to have it in writing what they were being ordered to do, if I were them. So who is "Clinton Executive Service Corp."? Does it consist solely of one Bryan "Take The Fifth" Pagliano?

 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
3. CESC was founded in December 8, 2010.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:09 PM
Oct 2015


http://www.thehour.com/news/norwalk/norwalk-data-recovery-company-drawn-into-hillary-clinton-email-investigation/article_01e7f426-ea69-5a98-8427-93e5fff62d72.html

http://www.businesslookup.org/clinton_executive_services_corp

http://www.nycorporatelist.com/corp/317035.html

In a letter Monday, U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, asked Datto, Inc. CEO Austin McChord to clarify the company's "role relating to Secretary Clinton's private server, the backup and security capabilities of the private server, and any directives provided to Datto relating to the server."

"Please produce all documents and communications between or among employees or contractors of Datto and employees of Platte River Networks, Clinton Executive Services Corp. (CESC), and any other party referring or relating to Secretary Clinton's private server or any backup device," wrote Johnson. "Please produce all contracts between Datto and Platte River Networks, CESC, or any other party referring or relating to Secretary Clinton's private service or any backup device."
Johnson has asked McChord to provide that and other information to the committee by Oct. 19.

According to information received by the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Johnson wrote, Platte River Networks (PRN) billed the Clinton Executive Service Corp. on May 31, 2013, to acquire a Datto SIRIS S2000 device.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
5. I wonder why it hasn't been mentioned until now, if this corporation (consisting of...who?)
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:18 PM
Oct 2015

was the entity in charge of managing her server? Strange.

 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
9. It opens another frightening door, worthy of it's own OP.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015

When you Google "Rorrie Gregorio" with "Hillary Clinton", you get a few interesting articles.

Estate taxes for everyone, unless you're a Clinton.

Hmmmm.

http://www.crainswealth.com/article/20140617/WEALTH/140619924

 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
2. "to the Clinton Executive Service Corp., which “appears to be a Clinton family company,”
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:03 PM
Oct 2015

.



How many companies and foundations and whatnot does this family have?

Can we please find a more believable, transparent, honest and trustworthy candidate?

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
6. "...Footnotes in the letter..
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:21 PM
Oct 2015
say the employees believe the directives were given over the phone.

The “shaddy shit” comment was mentioned at the bottom of the Johnson letter, which otherwise focused on allegations that another Connecticut-based tech company had an offsite, cloud backup of Clinton’s emails.


- A Platte River spokesman said they weren’t supposed to be doing the cloud backup and the client, Clinton, had never asked for such a backup.

“Datto was never supposed to have a cloud. … We specifically instructed Datto to only keep 30 days of information onsite and what they did, against our explicate instructions was to build a cloud and put this information on a cloud,” said company spokesman Andy Boian. “So I don’t know what was on the cloud because they violated the exact instruction we gave them.

“With the consent of our client and their end user, Datto is working with the FBI to provide data in conjunction with their investigation and consistent with our policies regarding data privacy," said Datto general counsel Michael Fass in a statement. "Datto has no role in monitoring the content or source of data stored by MSP clients such as Platte River.”



 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. Because you can have the shit sued out of you and go to the Pen
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
Oct 2015

as an IT professional if you intentionally help a client avoid journaling requirements (i.e., compliance with record retention law).

There is a reason why nearly every manager of an email system has a large surety bond placed on them, why we are fingerprinted, and why there are annual requirements that have to be met.

I wouldn't risk being sued or possibly imprisoned for violating the records retention act. Would you?

“So I don’t know what was on the cloud because they violated the exact instruction we gave them." When you give instructions to break the law that can end up with people serving time in the Federal Penitentiary, it's pretty damn easy to see why the hosting company and its employees disregarded said instructions.

You can instruct a drive through employee to distribute drugs out of the window, but if they fail to do so because they don't want to go to jail, you don't have a very firm foundation to stand on when you accuse them of not fulfilling job duties.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
27. Boy, these guys don't spell too well, do they?
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 08:42 PM
Oct 2015

'Shaddy?' 'Explicate?'

I guess that's 'shady' and 'explicit.'

Funny, I've worked hard for 40 years and climbed slowly up the ladder until the money finally got OK. These techies probably make more than I do and can't even spell...

So, shall we call this the 'lament of an aging Baby Boomer?'

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
7. CNN....
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:37 PM
Oct 2015
"I just think if we have it in writing that they told us to cut the backups, and that we can go public with our statement saying we have backups since day one, then we were told to trim to 30days (sic), it would make us look a WHOLE LOT better," the unnamed employee continued.

The email was sent shortly after news emerged that the FBI was looking into the security of the server, and several months after it was revealed that Clinton exclusively used the private account to conduct State Department business.

The employee indicates in the email that Clinton's team asked them to change the back-up duration between October and February, presumably of 2014/2015, though that isn't explicitly stated in the portion of the email included in Johnson's letter.


- Emails sent between Datto and Platte River Networks during that time indicate there was confusion about where the backed-up data would be stored, and for a while it was backed-up to an off-site Datto server, apparently against the wishes of Clinton staff.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-platte-river-networks/
 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
8. Here's a bit more: Rorrie Gregorio and Hillary Clinton:
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:37 PM
Oct 2015

OK.
There is this letter from the senate to Rorrie at Clinton Executive Services Corp (CESC).



http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/download/chairman-johnson-letter-to-the-clinton-executive-services-corp-on-clinton-email

So I looked up Rorrie and sure enough, she's helped the Clintons avoid paying taxes (legally):

Bloomberg News' Richard Rubin catches Bill and Hillary Clinton sticking their Westchester house into a "qualified personal residence trust" on the advice of estate-planning advisers Linda Hirschson of Greenberg Traurig and Rorrie Gregorio of Marcum LLP. The news article begins, "Bill and Hillary Clinton have long supported an estate tax to prevent the U.S. from being dominated by inherited wealth. That doesn't mean they want to pay it."

http://www.futureofcapitalism.com/2014/06/clintons-avoid-estate-tax-while-touting-it#


So much for any thought that the "Clinton" in CESC is just random or coincidental.
It's like a shell or dummy corporation, or has the appearance of that sort of thing, to me.
And they even used their own name in it.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
14. I think that's a misspelling from the employee - not the OP.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:51 PM
Oct 2015

However, maybe, "shaddy" is a combination of the words, "shady," and "shoddy."

I predict the word, "shaddy," will make it's way into the lexicon over the next few days.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. You run an email system
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:57 PM
Oct 2015

and get sent to jail, fined and sued for violating record retention laws.

I'll right along with you if that's something you want to do.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
18. Drip, drip, drip. I am still shocked by the lengths the Clintons go to to maintain secrecy.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:54 PM
Oct 2015

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
21. Very unflattering picture of HRC. Like something you'd see on a Jerome Corsi book-jacket.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 04:29 PM
Oct 2015

The right-wing boys at Politico put a lot of effort into finding that one.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
24. There are lots of more flattering pics of her. And it isn't "minutiae"
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 07:08 PM
Oct 2015

It is how the mainstream media fucks with the public's perception of Democrats.

Pick out that one picture from all of them that makes the Democrat look crappy, satanic, shifty et cetera.

They did it to Obama, Kerry, et cetera.

They've done it to Bernie as well.

As to Politico, It helps to remember Politico is funded by rich right wingers. They pull this kind of shit with photos all the time. They also do lots of articles to portray Democrats in a bad light, filled with nothing but quotes by "anonymous" sources.

When Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire, the media is going go full bore on this type of shit.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
28. Yep. And I don't find her unattractive.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 10:27 PM
Oct 2015

I think she looks lovely - for her age or not.

And I think Bernie is cute (but I like Semitic men).

I'm 45, so the wrinkles are starting.

I don't find a natural looking picture of her (or him) unflattering. I just think that's how one looks when they age. I realize most Americans worship youth, so I see why you said what you did.

I was actually defending her.

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