2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEmployee at Clinton's Email Hosting Company FEARED A COVERUP
..Starting to think this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy shit,..
An employee at the tech company that maintained Hillary Clintons homemade email server was concerned that instructions from Clinton's representatives would have the tech firm covering up some shaddy [sic] shit, according to emails obtained by Senate investigators. Employees at Denver-based Platte River Networks in a mid-August email chain were trying to find records that showed that the Clinton Executive Service Corp., the company paying the Platte River bill, had instructed them to reduce the length of time backups of Clinton's emails were kept.
Such a record, the employee said, would be golden," and would clear the company of outside criticism and point back to Clinton Executive Service Corp., which appears to be a Clinton family company, according to the Johnson letter.
McClatchy first reported on the Johnson letter. The Clinton campaign blasted Johnson for trying to sensationalize the matter for political points. "Ron Johnson is ripping a page from the House Benghazi Committee's playbook and mounting his own, taxpayer-funded sham of an investigation with the sole purpose of attacking Hillary Clinton politically," said campaign spokesman Brian Fallon. "The Justice Department's independent review is led by nonpolitical, career professionals, and Ron Johnson has no business interfering with it for his own partisan ends." In December 2014, Clinton turned over to the State Department about half of her 60,000-plus emails that spanned her time in office as secretary of state. The other 30,000, she said, were personal in nature. She said she deleted them.
Republicans and outside groups suing the State Department for documents, however, have questioned whether she turned over all her work-related documents as is required by law or if her team withheld messages that would have potentially been embarrassing to the Democratic 2016 presidential front-runner.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/hillary-clinton-emails-server-214487
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)I'd want to have it in writing what they were being ordered to do, if I were them. So who is "Clinton Executive Service Corp."? Does it consist solely of one Bryan "Take The Fifth" Pagliano?
MindfulOne
(227 posts)http://www.thehour.com/news/norwalk/norwalk-data-recovery-company-drawn-into-hillary-clinton-email-investigation/article_01e7f426-ea69-5a98-8427-93e5fff62d72.html
http://www.businesslookup.org/clinton_executive_services_corp
http://www.nycorporatelist.com/corp/317035.html
"Please produce all documents and communications between or among employees or contractors of Datto and employees of Platte River Networks, Clinton Executive Services Corp. (CESC), and any other party referring or relating to Secretary Clinton's private server or any backup device," wrote Johnson. "Please produce all contracts between Datto and Platte River Networks, CESC, or any other party referring or relating to Secretary Clinton's private service or any backup device."
Johnson has asked McChord to provide that and other information to the committee by Oct. 19.
According to information received by the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Johnson wrote, Platte River Networks (PRN) billed the Clinton Executive Service Corp. on May 31, 2013, to acquire a Datto SIRIS S2000 device.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)was the entity in charge of managing her server? Strange.
MindfulOne
(227 posts)When you Google "Rorrie Gregorio" with "Hillary Clinton", you get a few interesting articles.
Estate taxes for everyone, unless you're a Clinton.
Hmmmm.
http://www.crainswealth.com/article/20140617/WEALTH/140619924
MindfulOne
(227 posts).
How many companies and foundations and whatnot does this family have?
Can we please find a more believable, transparent, honest and trustworthy candidate?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)A Clinton cover-up?
Oh lordy lordy.
Say it ain't so.
Segami
(14,923 posts)The shaddy shit comment was mentioned at the bottom of the Johnson letter, which otherwise focused on allegations that another Connecticut-based tech company had an offsite, cloud backup of Clintons emails.
- A Platte River spokesman said they werent supposed to be doing the cloud backup and the client, Clinton, had never asked for such a backup.
Datto was never supposed to have a cloud. We specifically instructed Datto to only keep 30 days of information onsite and what they did, against our explicate instructions was to build a cloud and put this information on a cloud, said company spokesman Andy Boian. So I dont know what was on the cloud because they violated the exact instruction we gave them.
With the consent of our client and their end user, Datto is working with the FBI to provide data in conjunction with their investigation and consistent with our policies regarding data privacy," said Datto general counsel Michael Fass in a statement. "Datto has no role in monitoring the content or source of data stored by MSP clients such as Platte River.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)as an IT professional if you intentionally help a client avoid journaling requirements (i.e., compliance with record retention law).
There is a reason why nearly every manager of an email system has a large surety bond placed on them, why we are fingerprinted, and why there are annual requirements that have to be met.
I wouldn't risk being sued or possibly imprisoned for violating the records retention act. Would you?
So I dont know what was on the cloud because they violated the exact instruction we gave them." When you give instructions to break the law that can end up with people serving time in the Federal Penitentiary, it's pretty damn easy to see why the hosting company and its employees disregarded said instructions.
You can instruct a drive through employee to distribute drugs out of the window, but if they fail to do so because they don't want to go to jail, you don't have a very firm foundation to stand on when you accuse them of not fulfilling job duties.
PatrickforO
(15,426 posts)'Shaddy?' 'Explicate?'
I guess that's 'shady' and 'explicit.'
Funny, I've worked hard for 40 years and climbed slowly up the ladder until the money finally got OK. These techies probably make more than I do and can't even spell...
So, shall we call this the 'lament of an aging Baby Boomer?'
The email was sent shortly after news emerged that the FBI was looking into the security of the server, and several months after it was revealed that Clinton exclusively used the private account to conduct State Department business.
The employee indicates in the email that Clinton's team asked them to change the back-up duration between October and February, presumably of 2014/2015, though that isn't explicitly stated in the portion of the email included in Johnson's letter.
- Emails sent between Datto and Platte River Networks during that time indicate there was confusion about where the backed-up data would be stored, and for a while it was backed-up to an off-site Datto server, apparently against the wishes of Clinton staff.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-platte-river-networks/
MindfulOne
(227 posts)OK.
There is this letter from the senate to Rorrie at Clinton Executive Services Corp (CESC).

http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/download/chairman-johnson-letter-to-the-clinton-executive-services-corp-on-clinton-email
So I looked up Rorrie and sure enough, she's helped the Clintons avoid paying taxes (legally):
http://www.futureofcapitalism.com/2014/06/clintons-avoid-estate-tax-while-touting-it#
So much for any thought that the "Clinton" in CESC is just random or coincidental.
It's like a shell or dummy corporation, or has the appearance of that sort of thing, to me.
And they even used their own name in it.
Segami
(14,923 posts)authorizes expenditures for CESC? Is it Rorrie Gregorio?
Uncle Joe
(65,137 posts)Thanks for the thread, Segami.
zappaman
(20,627 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)However, maybe, "shaddy" is a combination of the words, "shady," and "shoddy."
I predict the word, "shaddy," will make it's way into the lexicon over the next few days.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and get sent to jail, fined and sued for violating record retention laws.
I'll
right along with you if that's something you want to do.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)The right-wing boys at Politico put a lot of effort into finding that one.
dsc
(53,397 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)What's she supposed to look like?
This is minutia.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)It is how the mainstream media fucks with the public's perception of Democrats.
Pick out that one picture from all of them that makes the Democrat look crappy, satanic, shifty et cetera.
They did it to Obama, Kerry, et cetera.
They've done it to Bernie as well.
As to Politico, It helps to remember Politico is funded by rich right wingers. They pull this kind of shit with photos all the time. They also do lots of articles to portray Democrats in a bad light, filled with nothing but quotes by "anonymous" sources.
When Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire, the media is going go full bore on this type of shit.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I think she looks lovely - for her age or not.
And I think Bernie is cute (but I like Semitic men).
I'm 45, so the wrinkles are starting.
I don't find a natural looking picture of her (or him) unflattering. I just think that's how one looks when they age. I realize most Americans worship youth, so I see why you said what you did.
I was actually defending her.