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[leftofcool]

1. Wishful thinking.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

3. Will you vote for him if my wish comes true? nt

[ConservativeDemocrat]

38. I will. And I'm the most conservative member on this board.

Party unity goes both ways.

I've even taken pains not to criticize him with bullshit attacks, in the same way that so many of the "Ready for someone else" DUers have bashed Hillary with warmed over GOP attacks. It's not like there aren't anti-Sanders smears out there. But I just don't believe in it.

If the will of the majority of the Democratic voters pick him as our nominee, I'll vote for him, and work to get him elected.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[leftofcool]

39. I always vote for the Democratic nominee!

For 40 years!

[still_one]

2. At least 95% of DU members will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is

[ChisolmTrailDem]

5. Except the Hillary supporters, who will vote against Bernie. nt

[NuclearDem]

8. A very small number of them, sure.

Not nearly as small a number as the Sanders supporters who outright stated they will never vote for Clinton.

[still_one]

22. I would say the vast majority of Bernie supporters will vote for the Democratic nominee

in the general election, if it is Hillary.

Hell, Bernie himself will vote for the Democratic nominee, even if it isn't him. That is why he didn't run as a third party. He said there was no way he would split the ticket, and put a republican in the white house.

As far as I am concerned this thread is just a blowing off of steam, and to try to get the goat of people who realize the importance of winning the general election

[still_one]

13. If you are trying to say Hillary supporters will not vote for Bernie in the general election if he

wins the Democratic nomination, you are living in an alternate universe.

It is fun to make shit up isn't it.

All you are trying to do is create flame bait. Its your thread

[sheshe2]

37. +1000

[beam me up scottie]

42. Are you saying no Hillary supporter said they won't vote for Bernie?

[sheshe2]

36. And you read that where!?

Links please?

Me, I have said I will vote for him. You broad brush Hillary supporters.

[beam me up scottie]

41. Right here on DU, she.

[sheshe2]

55. Link to where I said that!

[hrmjustin]

4. I will say publicly anyone who can't say they will support the nominee is likely here to

disrupt and I don't trust them.


And I don't think they belong here.

[sabrina 1]

19. And you think that DU will win this election for whoever the nominee is? I wouldn't count on

all the new Dems who will be signing up to vote for Bernie, remaining in the party if he does not get the nomination. Such tunnel vision is likely to lose this election, as they lost us the House and Senate.

To win the GE, you have to have more than DUers willing to vote for you.

The practical thing to ensure that happens is to stick to issues and avoid attacking the supporters of other candidates.

Sadly, Hillary's supporters have been incredibly hateful towards Bernie and his supporters. Her Super Pac has already attacked him, even thought it ended up benefiting him, that isn't the point.

I am already seeing comments from people who are preparing to sign up as Dems because of Bernie, on Social Media, saying they are appallled at the negative campaigning of the Hillary camp against their candidate, and that they will not forget it.

You have zero control over voters. If DUers continue to attack Sanders and his supporters the way they have from the beginning, many will simply leave this forum should he not win.

Do you really think you can influence how people vote with this now old 'threat'? The way to win people over is to convince them that your candidate is the best for the job. Threatening people is likely to have the opposite result.

Now explain, how does all the nastiness help your candidate again?

[hrmjustin]

26. I don't know Sabrina, how does nastiness help Mr. Sanders?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

40. You're not going to be convinced to vote for anyone other than Hillary. So why waste our time? nt

[hrmjustin]

44. Your not going to convince anyone to vote for him with ops like this.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

46. I'm not trying to convince anyone to vote for him in the primary. That would be like trying to

convince a cat to fetch a stick.

[sabrina 1]

57. Well let's see. How many Sanders supporters have called Hillary a 'white supremecist' along with her

supporters?

How many Sanders supporters spent months calling both the Senator and his supporters 'racists'

How about implications of 'dual loyalty' eg?

How about supporters, such as myself eg, being compared to Soviet Union era commies, yes, right here on DU? Any Sanders supporters use that ugly meme against Hillary supporters?

Where are the sites started by Sanders supporters where they are attacking and slamming this site and its members? What a horrible place that is, I will never click that link again. But it did confirm everything people already knew about people who seem to wallow in doing nothing other than attacking people here.

What you see from Sanders supperters are RESPONSES to some of the most vile, nasty attacks I have ever seen from a campaign against people and the candidate they support, ever.

So spare me the pretense.

I think a compilation of these nasty, vile memes is going to be necessary so that we can perhaps work on how to end this kind of political 'dialogue' which is so ugly and should certainly have no place on a forum like this.

Up to today, I did not associate you with the small group here well known for their troll like behavior. But today changed my opinion when I saw you join in with them. Glad I did see it though, I hate to be fooled by people pretending to take the high road.

[hrmjustin]

59. If you now have such a lower opiinion of me now I think you should just put me on ignore.

You don't want to associate with a bad person like me.

[DanTex]

53. "To win the GE, you have to have more than DUers willing to vote for you."

If you only knew how ironic that statement is, coming from a Hillary basher.

[restorefreedom]

20. some of us

dont like loyalty oaths or being told who to vote for.

and frankly, if the party riggs the process for a pro war, pro death penalty, pro bank 1% er who is undoubtedly going to sell us up the river on tpp and kxl, then they don't deserve any support other than those who want the status quo.

[hrmjustin]

29. And frankly my point still stands.

Have a nice night.

[restorefreedom]

31. you are of course, free to your own opinion

you have a nice evening too.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

21. I don;t care whether you think I belong here or not. You have no

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clue where I stand. I am on record on this website SEVERAL TIMES about where I stand if Bernie is not the nominee. That you're too lazy and/or self-absorbed to know that is not my problem. It's not like I'm a stranger in these parts.

[hrmjustin]

23. Yet you eere ready to pounce on us if we said no we would not vote for Mr. Sanders.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

25. WILL YOU VOTE FOR BERNIE if he is the nominee? Yes or no? nt

[hrmjustin]

28. Yes! I have have stated that a over and over again.

I am a true and loyal member of the Democratic Party.

[Judi Lynn]

51. Actually, it IS like you're a stranger here, to some of us. I saw it only when I answered the alert.

Most of us wouldn't dream of speaking that way, even when we know we're addressing trolls. It means too much to us to be able to use this resource for news and contact with other Democrats.

[Godhumor]

60. Pretty sure Judi was referring to the person behind the OP

Not you.

[NuclearDem]

6. Is there something in the water?

Or was this a scheduled board-wide multiple-OP-flip-out event?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

7. D- nt

[hrmjustin]

10. They can not handle criticism of Sanders.

It really shows.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

11. Pot. Kettle. Black. D- nt

[hrmjustin]

16. HRC gets criticized on issues here every day.

Some of it is deserved some of it is not.

You see me get animated when the childish posts like yours get posted.

If i acted like Some Sanders supporters do when my candidate gets trashed I would be posting every second of the day.

[hrmjustin]

17. Btw you did not respond to my rezponse to your op.

Any opinions?

[NuclearDem]

18. ...

[still_one]

27. It is nothing more than flame bait, without merit, to rile folks up. I have no doubt it will get a

lot of responses

[Godhumor]

33. And already enough recs to make it to the greatest page

We're inching closer to the hilarity of someone posting an op on how Clinton supporters are making DU suck.

[ForwardMotion]

9. What's a D-minuser? And why would calling people this make them want to vote for Bernie Sanders?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

12. They'll never vote for Bernie. I don't waste my time trying to convince a brick wall to produce a

desired result. Why would I do the same with a Hillary supporter?

[ForwardMotion]

14. Who is they?

[Persondem]

24. Kind of ironic you demonizing HRC supporters while worried about folks demonizing Sanders

Lots of demons around here apparently, real and imagined.

If you really cared about finding out if HRC supporters would vote for Sanders you could have included a poll in your OP. But I suspect you don't really care about learning anything; your cup is quite full.

For the record, next fall I will have no trouble campaigning and voting for the Democratic nominee. Any one of ours is light years better than any one of theirs.

[still_one]

34. What is so funny is that if Bernie wins the Democratic nomination, unless the Hillary supporters

vote for him in the general election, Bernie can't win.

So, the OP in his infinite wisdom believes that using the "cute phrase", "D-", to refer to Hillary supporters , as a clever way to say Hillary supporters "aren't really Democrats", that Bernie doesn't need "any Hillary supporters" to win the general election if he wins the nomination.

That defies logic, and every poll.

I love the convoluted logic being used. Insult the Hillary supporters, and effectively tell them, Bernie doesn't need their votes to win the general election.

This is really laughable.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

35. No, I'm just sick and fucking tired of seeing the disrespectful bullshit thrown at Bernie when he's

done nothing to deserve it and while he has been a DU hero for at least a decade that I know of. Now, all of a sudden he's a bad guy? Fuck that shit.

Hillary, on the other hand, has a long history of questionable and despicable behavior, beginning with her vote for the IWR. Not to mention that she is bought and paid for. Bernie isn't owned by anyone, much less the fucking NRA.

[still_one]

47. Then start a thread with that as the topic. The sniping that goes on at DU during election time is

not pleasant for sure.

Most of us should be discussing and arguing the issues and differences between the candidates without being insulting to each other. That is an ideal situation though, and I don't see that happening for a while here

The only thing I would say is try not to let things get to you too much. Its a long primary season

[ChisolmTrailDem]

48. Anyone who attempts to destroy Bernie as a gun nut is fair game. End of story. nt

[Godhumor]

30. What the actual fuck are you talking about?

And D-Minusers, seriously?

Anyone who doesn't support the Democratic nominee when it becomes official isn't welcome on DU and never has been.

This place sometimes...

[ChisolmTrailDem]

43. There are a certain contingent on this board who are accusing Bernie of being in bed with the NRA.

I'm not going to sit by and watch that happen any longer without saying something. So, I did.

[Godhumor]

52. There's also a certain contingent on here that have already accused Clinton of fabricating the Biden

The Biden was the leaked source story, which is frankly beyond the pale.

And the only examples of "I won't vote for x" in this thread are Sanders supporters, ironically.

You need to accept that 90 to 95% of GDP is Sanders positive and Clinton negative. And take a real look sometime at what passes as acceptable speculation about Clinton, because it is just as ugly as how you feel about the NRA association with Bernie.

[redstateblues]

32. Nothing like the scent of victim hood

On a beautiful fall evening

[ChisolmTrailDem]

45. Do you think Bernie is in bed with the NRA? Do you believe him to be a gun nutter? Some people

here do believe that and are disparaging our candidate in the process when it is not deserved.

[still_one]

58. No Bernie is not in bed with the NRA. He did vote against the Brady Bill, and his reasoning was

that it shouldn't be done at the Federal level. That doesn't make him a "gun nut". It also is expected that reasonable people could disagree with his position on that, between state verses federal authority. I personally don't agree with Bernie's vote on the Brady Bill.

I do agree with his view that gun manufacterers shouldn't be liebel if someone uses their product in the commission of a crime. To me it is the person who commits the crime who bears full responsibility.

This is primary time, sparing is expected, even if it isn't fair. However, the arguments presented here, on any of the candidates is actually a good thing. There is no doubt that as the election season progresses those issues will be brought up, and the candidates will speak to them. Some will agree, and some will disagree. That is what makes a ball game.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

50. Yea, lots of that going on amongst Hillary fans. So is the unfounded accusations of gun nuttery. nt

[William769]

54. Bernies 50 State strategy is great!

That is the 50 States he can't win.

So I reject the premise of the question.