Forbes assures its readers that Ciinton really supports the TPP.

[mhatrw]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddavenport/2015/10/08/hillary-hears-perots-giant-sucking-sound-and-flips-against-the-tpp/

Despite speaking in favor of TPP 45 times in recent years—even calling it “the gold standard in trade agreements”—Mrs. Clinton now says she cannot support it, citing concern about jobs and wages, national security, and specific provisions about currency manipulation and drug companies. Objective studies about NAFTA confirm that the jobs and wages argument just doesn’t fly. And let’s face it, you don’t change your position on an entire treaty because of two relatively minor provisions such as the ones she referenced.

Sadly, as was the case with NAFTA, opposing TPP turns out to be about politics and not policy. Having been outflanked on the left by Obama in 2008, Hillary obviously feels a need to cover her left perimeter against Bernie Sanders, who has opposed the TPP. And, running in states like Ohio and Michigan where manufacturing and jobs are key, you want to be able to make a lot of noise about protecting American workers.

If you read the fine print, however, what Mrs. Clinton actually said was: “What I know about it, as of today, I am not in favor of what I have learned about it.” So watch for her position to “evolve.” The “gold standard of trade agreements” recently, she cannot support “today,” but if she becomes president, or even the Democratic nominee, look for her to review it and reach yet a different conclusion, just as she and Obama did in 2008, opposing NAFTA as candidates but alright with it later. The sucking sound Clinton fears turns out to be votes going left, not jobs leaving the country.

[in_cog_ni_to]

1. It's going to be a bad day when Forbes is calling you on your mealy-mouth remarks.

If you read the fine print, however, what Mrs. Clinton actually said was: “What I know about it, as of today, I am not in favor of what I have learned about it.” So watch for her position to “evolve.” The “gold standard of trade agreements” recently, she cannot support “today,” but if she becomes president, or even the Democratic nominee, look for her to review it and reach yet a different conclusion, just as she and Obama did in 2008, opposing NAFTA as candidates but alright with it later. The sucking sound Clinton fears turns out to be votes going left, not jobs leaving the country

[Live and Learn]

2. Enough of the weasel words and flips, Hillary. Everyone is noticing. nt

[Motown_Johnny]

3. People hear what they want to hear and Hillary knows it.

She stays on all sides of issues because it works for her.

Sad really.

[Old Crow]

4. Wow. Read the entire article to be sure the headline here was accurate.

And it's spot-on. Don't worry, they're saying. If Hillary gets in office, she'll reverse on TPP and come out in favor of it.

[nyabingi]

5. Hillary has no moral center or grounding

She just says what she thinks is popular at the time. She knows Bernie has been preaching against the TPP and drawing thousands so she is suddenly against it.

[hifiguy]

18. Not quite true.

Like Richard Nixon, she has one core principal - self-advancement and a coextensive feeling of entitlement to the office of POTUS, by any means at hand. And I do mean ANY MEANS.

[HooptieWagon]

20. Exactly so.

There's the secrecy and paranoia, not to mention the very Nixonesque enemies list. No wonder she considers Henry Kissinger her bff.

[tularetom]

6. IOW, "she's lying but we don't care because she's really on our side"

The fact that she is a liar has become part of the conventional wisdom, published without comment in journals read primarily by the 1%.

[daleanime]

8. They consider it a necessary stage show....

to keep the illusion of American Democracy going.

[BlueJazz]

7. I expected better from Hillary. This disappoints me.

[cpompilo]

9. Forbes says: its OK corporatists, she's just lying; fooling the people

is OK.

[Enthusiast]

10. I had few doubts about Hillary's position.

[tritsofme]

11. This is the undoubtedly true. Her opposition makes her look ridiculous.

And requires the suspension of disbelief to be believed.

I don't know what she thinks is gained from this cynical back and forth.

[Armstead]

12. Yep

[d_legendary1]

13. In other words she's just pandering for votes

The same Clinton that ran in 2008 is the same one running in 2016. Didn't fall for it then and not falling for it now.

[senz]

31. It's what she does. nt

[FlatBaroque]

14. When a Clinton speaks

always, always look for and read the fine print.

[mmonk]

15. Forbes is wrong about NAFTA.

[azmom]

16. She's just making noise about protecting

The American worker. Yep. That's all it is noise.

[hifiguy]

17. As if there were ever any doubt.

People really expect us to fall for that kind of transparent horseshit? Not any more.

One thing about the weathervane - it always spins towards the corporatist breeze no matter what the rhetoric du jour is.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

26. Sadly, many still will. nt

[Fearless]

19. You don't say??

[Bernblu]

21. This is pathectic

and terrible for democracy. Hillary should run on what she believes in. If she can't she should get out of the race.

[840high]

29. She is running on what she

believes in: She believes in getting to the White House.

[magical thyme]

22. K&R

[Autumn]

23. Of course she does, as SOS she would have some knowledge of it and she actively pushed it.

For her to say now she's against it is a farce.

[McCamy Taylor]

24. Forbes is doing dirty tricks for the RNC. If you believe Forbes I have some swamp land to sell

you. Cheap.

[mhatrw]

25. How is it a dirty RNC trick to help HRC triangulate? n/t

[840high]

30. I trust Forbes more than Hillary.

[workinclasszero]

27. Forbes dirty republican trickery

Trying to help Bernie because they hope and pray he can get the nomination over Hillary.

They don't fear Bernie in anyway. Quite the contrary.

[mhatrw]

32. Again, that makes no sense. Forbes was trying to bolster HRC with their readers

aka the top 1%. Read the article.

[cui bono]

28. k n r