2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow Bernie Sanders hopes to win Latino voters with his own immigrant story
Fusion: How Bernie Sanders hopes to win Latino voters with his own immigrant storySanders landed his first meaningful Latino endorsement on Wednesday from from Arizona Rep. Raul M. Grijalva, a longstanding member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. But Clinton is already pulling more big-name endorsements, from the likes of Salma Hayek, Marc Anthony, labor and civil rights activist Dolores Huerta, and Rep. Xavier Becerra, chairman of the House Democratic caucus.
Ive spent the last 15 years really dealing with everyday Latino voters and families, with organizing them at the grassroots level, organizing them digitally and mobilizing them by the tens of thousands, he said. Ive learned that the Latino community is very sensitive to ensuring that we have authenticity.
And Señor Sanders certainly has plenty of that.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Just facts, the article leaves out this vote among many other great ones and Sanders overall stance on immigration sounds like it's right out of the wingerish book of false economics
http://blog.fwd.us/bernie-sanders-immigration
Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project.
Voting YES on this amendment supports the Minuteman Project, a group of volunteers who have taken on surveillance of the Mexican border for illegal immigrants. The amendment states that US funds will not be used to tell the Mexican government about the whereabouts of the Minuteman Project volunteers. Proponents of the Minuteman Project say that they are volunteer citizens doing what the federal government SHOULD be doing, but has failed to do. Opponents of the Minuteman Project say that they are vigilantes at best and anti-Mexican racists at worst. The amendment states:
None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to provide a foreign government information relating to the activities of an organized volunteer civilian action group, operating in the State of California, Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona, unless required by international treaty.
The amendment's sponsor said on its behalf:
What this amendment does is it clarifies Congress' position on a Border Patrol practice or a practice of the US Government that tips off illegal immigrants as to where citizen patrols may be located.
As a response to the lawlessness along the Mexican border, a group has sprung up called the Minutemen Project, and the Minutemen Project is definitely not politically correct in Washington DC. However, they filled a void which the government was unable to fill.
There are over 7,000 volunteers in the Minutemen organization, and their help has been productive and good.
What my amendment does is simply says that the U.S. Government cannot tip off the Mexican officials as to where these folks are located. Plain and simple, nothing fancy about it. I am sure the Border Patrol will say, oh, no, we are not doing that, and yet one of the Web pages of the Secretary of Mexico had the information very explicit, and we just do not believe that is a good practice.
Reference: Department of Homeland Security appropriations; Bill HR 5441 Amendment 968 ; vote number 2006-224 on Jun 6, 2006
He voted with 69 other Dems on that.
According to the link in your subject line:
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Immigration.htm
And you slip this gem in the middle of it: http://blog.fwd.us/bernie-sanders-immigration
So who is FWD.US? Here's a taste from Wiki:
The main goals of FWD.us, as outlined by Zuckerberg in his Washington Post op-ed[1] and described on the FWD.us website[4] are:
1. Immigration reform (in the context of immigration to the United States)
2. Improving the quality of science and technology education (again focused on the United States)
3. Encouraging more investment in breakthrough technologies in a manner that benefits the public at large.
4. Reducing corporate expenses for hiring employees by encouraging immigrants to compete with American citizens for employment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FWD.us
Oh. And it only gets better on the Wiki page.
Have a nice one checking it out.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Sanders position on immigration has been called complicated and he has been criticized by immigration activists for supporting the idea that immigrants coming to the U.S. are taking jobs and hurting the economy, a theory that has been proven incorrect.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/07/30/3686282/bernie-sanders-immigration/
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)At the USHCC event, Sanders also highlighted the more progressive parts of his immigration plan, which include comprehensive reform and a path toward citizenship for the roughly 11 million undocumented Americans.
Economically and morally, it is unacceptable that we have millions of workers who are living in the shadows, he said. Some of my Republican colleagues apparently think that the solution is I guess in the middle of the night to round up everybody and throw them out of the country. I think that anybody thinking those kinds of ideas is ugly beyond belief.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)In 2008, Sen. Sanders traveled to the tomato fields of southern Florida and met with migrant workers who were paid paltry wages for back-breaking work. After his visit, Sanders invited leaders of the Coalition of Immokalee Workers to come to Washington and testify at a Senate committee hearing where they confronted growers on abusive labor practices. The result in Immokalee, Florida was better working conditions and increased pay.
But how many more Immokalees are out there? How many fields or factories are there where people often without legal status are used up and thrown away? We cannot continue to run an economy where millions are made so vulnerable because of their undocumented status.
Many in the business community have argued for a massive expansion of temporary guest worker programs as the answer to the immigration issue. That is not the answer. As the Southern Poverty Law Center has documented, guest workers are routinely cheated out of wages, held virtually captive by employers who seize their documents, forced to live in inhumane conditions and denied medical treatment for on-the-job injuries.
In addition, we as a nation have got to realize the importance of dealing not just with the issue of immigration but with the very real refugee crisis we face. It was appalling last year when so many voices were insisting that the large numbers of desperate, unaccompanied children who crossed our borders be turned away or simply shipped back to their country of origin like a package marked return to sender.
America has always been a haven for the oppressed. We cannot and must not shirk the historic role of the United States as a protector of vulnerable people fleeing persecution.
Unfortunately, American policy in Latin America has too often made difficult economic and political problems even worse. For example, supporters of NAFTA told us that this unfettered free trade agreement would increase the standard of living in Mexico and significantly reduce the flow of undocumented immigrants into this country as a result. The opposite was true.
Since the implementation of NAFTA, the number of Mexicans living below the poverty line has increased by over 14 million people. Almost 2 million small farmers have been displaced. And in the twenty years since NAFTA growth in per capita GDP has been only half of that experienced by other Latin American nations. Not surprisingly we have seen a 185 percent increase in the number of undocumented immigrants from Mexico from 1992 to 2011.
AS PRESIDENT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WILL:
Sign comprehensive immigration reform into law to bring over 11 million undocumented workers out of the shadows. We cannot continue to run an economy where millions are made so vulnerable because of their undocumented status.
Oppose tying immigration reform to the building of a border fence. Undocumented workers come to the United States to escape economic hardship and political persecution. Tying reform to unrealistic and unwise border patrol proposals renders the promise illusory for millions seeking legal status.
Sign the DREAM Act into law to offer the opportunity of permanent residency and eventual citizenship to young people who were brought to the United States as children. We must recognize the young men and women who comprise the DREAMers for who they are American kids who deserve the right to legally be in the country they know as home.
Expand President Obamas Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program to include the parents of citizens, parents of legal permanent residents, and the parents of DREAMERs. We need to pursue policies that unites families and does not tear them apart.
Authorize and substantially increase funding for the Legal Services Corporation to provide legal representation to guest workers who have been abused by their employers. Further, employers should be required to reimburse guest workers for housing, transportation expenses and workers compensation.
Substantially increase prevailing wages that employers are required to pay temporary guest workers. If there is a true labor shortage, employers should be offering higher, not lower wages.
Rewrite our trade policies to end the race to the bottom and lift the living standards of workers in this country and our trading partners. Not only have free trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA hurt U.S. workers, they have been a disaster for small farmers in Mexico and Central America.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/fair-and-humane-immigration-policy/
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)You are linking to a right-wing lobby group led by billionaire asshole Mark Zuckerberg, Grover Norquist also works with them on immigration issues.
You can support your Grover Norquist affiliated group, I will continue to support Bernie despite the attempts of a right-wing lobby group to smear him.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)So no, a site with deep ties to Hillary's campaign manager is not particularly fond of Bernie.
Think Progress is not as bad as the vile right-wing lobby group you linked to earlier, but they are still far from a neutral source.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Providing law enforcement the tools necessary to secure the border will allow them to focus resources on enforcement priorities such as violent criminals and terror threats.
When you scrape the bottom of the barrel for dirt on Bernie you really scrape the bottom of the barrel.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)This led to the murders of two American citizens, one a nine-year old girl.
So what if 69, a hundred, or a million voted like him?
Isn't this the guy who ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS acts and votes on principle?
So, aren't we to assume that this vote was on principle too?
Thank you for bringing this over Uponit.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... candidate can throw a stone... I've gotten one reply that Sanders can.
I think a good portion of them believe that but don't have the minerals to say it
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)If Bernie's Dad runs, I'll consider voting for him.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)backed by a cartel money launderer whose palm-oil thugs killed over 200 Hondurans succeeded so that democracy wouldn't break out
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Out of all of the candidates, he is my choice.