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Are there any fans here of Webb or Chaffee? (Original Post) NightWatcher Oct 2015 OP
DNC is desperate to dilute Sanders message AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #1
I hear if Biden decides to join mid-debate, CNN will let him Skype into the debate NightWatcher Oct 2015 #5
Corporate America is desperate AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #7
Waaaahhhh! zappaman Oct 2015 #16
Not so, they booted that Harvard guy. oasis Oct 2015 #19
And doing so during the World Series AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #24
The World Series won't be starting for a couple more weeks. zappaman Oct 2015 #25
play offs are pretty big stuff too questionseverything Oct 2015 #26
No matter AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #30
I like Chafee, he's thoughtful, and a conscientious public servant. elleng Oct 2015 #2
As human beings, yeah, especially Webb... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #3
The Democratic Party has candidates, not network rejects. Hortensis Oct 2015 #4
Are the guys pulling less than 1% actually legitimate candidates? NightWatcher Oct 2015 #6
Really? So CNN and Fox, etc. got to change the criteria for WHO Hortensis Oct 2015 #8
Yes, thanks, AND elleng Oct 2015 #9
I just looked back at Jimmy Carter, Elleng, and the media ignored Hortensis Oct 2015 #20
Exactly! Gives me SOME 'courage!' elleng Oct 2015 #21
Reading about press power and dishonor requires finding courage. Wonder Hortensis Oct 2015 #23
That would be a table for two demwing Oct 2015 #13
I like Lincoln Chaffee and Lawrence Lessing should have been added to KoKo Oct 2015 #10
Lessing. lol. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #12
He's polling higher then LC Alittleliberal Oct 2015 #29
I totally agree Lessing should be there. Where are all the "more debates" Hortensis Oct 2015 #22
That's Lessing's Strongest Issue but it would Hurt Hillary on her Super Pacs KoKo Oct 2015 #31
I don't like excluding local, non-DNC debates -- at all, but there's a great Hortensis Oct 2015 #32
I'm no longer "Very Afraid" in my Vote for a Democrat! KoKo Oct 2015 #33
They are right where they belong. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #11
2 democrats, 2 republicans, and one socialist walk into a bar...oops, walk into a debate nt msongs Oct 2015 #14
I don't have big problems with Chaffee, just disagree on a few things. Webb is a non starter. mmonk Oct 2015 #15
Webb and Chaffee are both DINO's MiniMe Oct 2015 #17
Exactly, and at least one of them wants to privatize Social Security. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #27
i like them both for their opposition to the iwr restorefreedom Oct 2015 #18
Not to be President DefenseLawyer Oct 2015 #28

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
25. The World Series won't be starting for a couple more weeks.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:43 PM
Oct 2015

If you're going to be "outraged", at least get your facts right.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
30. No matter
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:40 PM
Oct 2015

once Bernie passes Hillary, DWS will start adding more debates. Its how cheaters operate.

elleng

(131,067 posts)
2. I like Chafee, he's thoughtful, and a conscientious public servant.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:03 PM
Oct 2015

No need for a 'kids table' for the Dems as the 5 can easily fit around the table, and none are clowns.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. Are the guys pulling less than 1% actually legitimate candidates?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

I wish that they'd only have the candidates that are polling above 5%, aka the candidates with a snowball's chance in Hell.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Really? So CNN and Fox, etc. got to change the criteria for WHO
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:17 PM
Oct 2015

can run run for president just by kicking several legitimate candidates off their shows? Can fake pollsters get rid of candidates they don't want by slanting their polls to skew the results? How about the media? Does their coverage determine who we even hear about? Can and do they destroy candidates before we get a choice? Oh, yes!

WHO gets to choose our president?

This is the first debate, NightWatcher. The low-percentage candidates aren't unknown because they've been rejected sight unseen, they're unknown because they're unknown. Presenting them and their positions to the electorate is the purpose of the debates.

Enjoy the debate.

elleng

(131,067 posts)
9. Yes, thanks, AND
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:31 PM
Oct 2015

some should remember that, at this point in 1975, few had heard of JIMMY CARTER!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. I just looked back at Jimmy Carter, Elleng, and the media ignored
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:17 PM
Oct 2015

him until his adept wins forced them to cover him. He was running as an outsider after Watergate, and the press were focused on insider candidates they considered viable. Thanks for pointing that out.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Reading about press power and dishonor requires finding courage. Wonder
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:41 PM
Oct 2015

what the Carters will be doing tonight... The press's spin will be far more important than the actual debate, of course. I'll be watching anyway, though. Go...all of them!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. I like Lincoln Chaffee and Lawrence Lessing should have been added to
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

the debates. What about that empty chair for Biden. Why couldn't Lessing take it?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. I totally agree Lessing should be there. Where are all the "more debates"
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:27 PM
Oct 2015

people with Lessing and their great concern for fairness and exposure in our debates? If it's not specifically about one's favorite candidate, there is no principle?

There's also a whole lot of righteous hot air blown here about money in politics, yet the silence in the face of opportunity to move this issue front and center is deafening. If it's not specifically about whichever candidate is a favorite, money buying our representatives is simply a nonissue?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
31. That's Lessing's Strongest Issue but it would Hurt Hillary on her Super Pacs
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:44 PM
Oct 2015

and so he was not Invited even thought there's an empty Podium for Joe Biden that the MSM has obsessed about!

Also, Lessings view about "Super Pac" money in our elections would have had to have an answer from Hillary.....and we know that "DWS" WILL NOT ALLOW THAT!

Meanwhile the Republican "Clown Car" marches on with All Kinds of Different Viewpoints being Heard in the Debates and Dems are Discounted!

DWS NEEDS to GO!



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. I don't like excluding local, non-DNC debates -- at all, but there's a great
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:54 PM
Oct 2015

deal to like about much other that Wasserman-Schultz is doing for us all. I'm afraid the cult of personality that's gathered around Bernie does not choose to understand anything but their own a tunnel-vision black-and-white wants.

We are in a battle with the GOP for the future of our nation.

Regarding Bernie, an important thing some of his most ardent supporters do not consider is that each debate is also an opportunity to turn people off, to make fatal mistakes. It's a two-edged opportunity. Too much exposure might kill him with all the people who vote for whoever they'd like to live next door and push an inferior person with a better TV personality into his place. The same for too-long exposure. A long campaign is not at all good for most candidates. A new wind like Bernie especially benefits from moving fast over a shorter election period. Their opponents benefit from dragging things out long enough for the excitement to wane and worry about too much change too fast to set in -- assisted by millions thrown into dirty advertising, of course.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
33. I'm no longer "Very Afraid" in my Vote for a Democrat!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:24 PM
Oct 2015

This is a different time and place in U.S. History after Obama Election. We need to build on Obama and Reform what he couldn't get done because of his compromises.

I find fault with this from you because you seem to not understand how we Progressive Dems are and have been working to Reform the Democratic Party and we are NOT GIVING UP:

Too much exposure might kill him with all the people who vote for whoever they'd like to live next door and push an inferior person with a better TV personality into his place. The same for too-long exposure. A long campaign is not at all good for most candidates. A new wind like Bernie especially benefits from moving fast over a shorter election period. Their opponents benefit from dragging things out long enough for the excitement to wane and worry about too much change too fast to set in -- assisted by millions thrown into dirty advertising, of course.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. They are right where they belong.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:34 PM
Oct 2015

And I hope Webb gets the opportunity to share his thoughts on the prison industry.

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
17. Webb and Chaffee are both DINO's
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:28 PM
Oct 2015

They didn't become dems until GWB. I don't feel like either one of them is a true Dem.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
27. Exactly, and at least one of them wants to privatize Social Security.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:17 PM
Oct 2015

Luckily, neither one of them stands any chance whatsoever.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
18. i like them both for their opposition to the iwr
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:32 PM
Oct 2015

I think it's interesting to point out the chafee was the lone Republicans who voted against it. And Clinton didn't vote against it as a dem. i will just leave that there.

and no, at this early stage there should not be a kids table. I objected to a kids table for the Republicans, even though they were zillion of them. I think that it hurt the ones who didn't get to be on the main stage and I think the media running the debate should not be picking winners and losers. lets let the voters do that

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
28. Not to be President
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:28 PM
Oct 2015

But I think they are both principled men and I appreciated that they opposed the war at a time when a lot of people didn't.

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