2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAre there any fans here of Webb or Chaffee?
Hello, anyone?
Shouldn't they be at the kids table debate as were the republicans who polled at less than zero?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)It's pathetic.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)They are just putting other candidates on to dilute Berne's message.
Unreal.
oasis
(49,398 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The more they try to 'hide' him, the stronger he gets.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)If you're going to be "outraged", at least get your facts right.
questionseverything
(9,657 posts)cubs up right now 4-2 in the 4th
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)once Bernie passes Hillary, DWS will start adding more debates. Its how cheaters operate.
elleng
(131,067 posts)No need for a 'kids table' for the Dems as the 5 can easily fit around the table, and none are clowns.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)eom
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I wish that they'd only have the candidates that are polling above 5%, aka the candidates with a snowball's chance in Hell.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)can run run for president just by kicking several legitimate candidates off their shows? Can fake pollsters get rid of candidates they don't want by slanting their polls to skew the results? How about the media? Does their coverage determine who we even hear about? Can and do they destroy candidates before we get a choice? Oh, yes!
WHO gets to choose our president?
This is the first debate, NightWatcher. The low-percentage candidates aren't unknown because they've been rejected sight unseen, they're unknown because they're unknown. Presenting them and their positions to the electorate is the purpose of the debates.
Enjoy the debate.
elleng
(131,067 posts)some should remember that, at this point in 1975, few had heard of JIMMY CARTER!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)him until his adept wins forced them to cover him. He was running as an outsider after Watergate, and the press were focused on insider candidates they considered viable. Thanks for pointing that out.
elleng
(131,067 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)what the Carters will be doing tonight... The press's spin will be far more important than the actual debate, of course. I'll be watching anyway, though. Go...all of them!
demwing
(16,916 posts)I don't think O'Malley has hit 4% yet
KoKo
(84,711 posts)the debates. What about that empty chair for Biden. Why couldn't Lessing take it?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Alittleliberal
(528 posts)So there's that.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)people with Lessing and their great concern for fairness and exposure in our debates? If it's not specifically about one's favorite candidate, there is no principle?
There's also a whole lot of righteous hot air blown here about money in politics, yet the silence in the face of opportunity to move this issue front and center is deafening. If it's not specifically about whichever candidate is a favorite, money buying our representatives is simply a nonissue?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)and so he was not Invited even thought there's an empty Podium for Joe Biden that the MSM has obsessed about!
Also, Lessings view about "Super Pac" money in our elections would have had to have an answer from Hillary.....and we know that "DWS" WILL NOT ALLOW THAT!
Meanwhile the Republican "Clown Car" marches on with All Kinds of Different Viewpoints being Heard in the Debates and Dems are Discounted!
DWS NEEDS to GO!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)deal to like about much other that Wasserman-Schultz is doing for us all. I'm afraid the cult of personality that's gathered around Bernie does not choose to understand anything but their own a tunnel-vision black-and-white wants.
We are in a battle with the GOP for the future of our nation.
Regarding Bernie, an important thing some of his most ardent supporters do not consider is that each debate is also an opportunity to turn people off, to make fatal mistakes. It's a two-edged opportunity. Too much exposure might kill him with all the people who vote for whoever they'd like to live next door and push an inferior person with a better TV personality into his place. The same for too-long exposure. A long campaign is not at all good for most candidates. A new wind like Bernie especially benefits from moving fast over a shorter election period. Their opponents benefit from dragging things out long enough for the excitement to wane and worry about too much change too fast to set in -- assisted by millions thrown into dirty advertising, of course.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)This is a different time and place in U.S. History after Obama Election. We need to build on Obama and Reform what he couldn't get done because of his compromises.
I find fault with this from you because you seem to not understand how we Progressive Dems are and have been working to Reform the Democratic Party and we are NOT GIVING UP:
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And I hope Webb gets the opportunity to share his thoughts on the prison industry.
msongs
(67,433 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)MiniMe
(21,718 posts)They didn't become dems until GWB. I don't feel like either one of them is a true Dem.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Luckily, neither one of them stands any chance whatsoever.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)I think it's interesting to point out the chafee was the lone Republicans who voted against it. And Clinton didn't vote against it as a dem. i will just leave that there.
and no, at this early stage there should not be a kids table. I objected to a kids table for the Republicans, even though they were zillion of them. I think that it hurt the ones who didn't get to be on the main stage and I think the media running the debate should not be picking winners and losers. lets let the voters do that
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)But I think they are both principled men and I appreciated that they opposed the war at a time when a lot of people didn't.