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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:47 PM Oct 2015

Hillary won't take a position on recreation marijuana even at this stage.

Right after Bernie said he would vote for it in Nevada, she says she won't take a position yet.

Cowardly.

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Hillary won't take a position on recreation marijuana even at this stage. (Original Post) Bonobo Oct 2015 OP
She is. haikugal Oct 2015 #1
She hasn't heard from her focus group yet senz Oct 2015 #32
Yep Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #2
Because the audience is all stoners according to Anderson Cooper. tecelote Oct 2015 #35
He can be indeed Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #39
Yeah, that one will leave a mark I think....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2015 #3
We need more research, no doubt Fumesucker Oct 2015 #4
I'm lighting up a research joint.. One Man Stands Alone Oct 2015 #12
Dave's not here man... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #17
What are you confused about? Nt Logical Oct 2015 #16
Is the prison industry a big supporter of hers? nt valerief Oct 2015 #5
Yes. Fearless Oct 2015 #29
I don't know why she can't just say no if she believes that Renew Deal Oct 2015 #6
"Elect me and I'll tell you." cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #7
Oops!...Hillary's advisors forgot to take that poll to tell her what to think! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #8
Warren isn't even in USA right now. She wanted to be far away tonight, I suspect. MADem Oct 2015 #18
I thought I heard: Wait And See - Let the states figure it out Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #9
Wait and see is not a position. It is a dodge. Bonobo Oct 2015 #11
No. It is a position. You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but it is a position Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #19
It is a cowardly dodge. And it is SHE who will have to live with it. Bonobo Oct 2015 #20
I have no problem dealing with it; I'm comfortable with it. Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #23
That's fine. But most people will see her as dodging a major issue that affects their lives. Bonobo Oct 2015 #31
I guess we'll find out just how important it is, won't we? Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #33
Same here. nt Bonobo Oct 2015 #34
Yes!!! Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #38
I have to ask you something. I have been wondering about this for, well, years. redwitch Oct 2015 #40
Aww. Thank you for caring! Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #42
I have been mentally pronouncing it Zippy Totec all this time. redwitch Oct 2015 #43
I don't think it's cowardly but it's not showing leadership. joshcryer Oct 2015 #45
I'm a Bernie supporter and her position sounded pretty clear to me. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #10
Yes, continue to arrest people for rec pot. Really clear! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #13
She said quite the opposite and you know it. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #21
Nope, she said wait and see on rec pot. Which in most states is an arrest! ...... Logical Oct 2015 #24
You leave out further discussion of reduction of prison pops with stopping arrests for pot. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #30
Bullshit..... Logical Oct 2015 #36
It's the wait and see attitude. joshcryer Oct 2015 #27
She is taking a "states rights" approach to it. MADem Oct 2015 #14
She is saying it is ok to still make it a crime. Correct? Nt Logical Oct 2015 #28
Dear Hillary: Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #15
I called it. joshcryer Oct 2015 #22
LEGALIZE NOW, HILLARY! John Poet Oct 2015 #25
She probably wasn't 'briefed' on that question. Clearly she expected the Iraq War sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #26
Culturally, she's stuck in about 1996. reformist2 Oct 2015 #37
And in her policies, so good catch there Hydra Oct 2015 #41
She is old school.. haikugal Oct 2015 #44
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
32. She hasn't heard from her focus group yet
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:16 PM
Oct 2015

so of course she doesn't know what she thinks.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
8. Oops!...Hillary's advisors forgot to take that poll to tell her what to think!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:52 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
11. Wait and see is not a position. It is a dodge.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:02 PM
Oct 2015

She ducked the question a year ago, saying wait and see about Colorado.

Abundant data is now available to make a decision on how you feel.

She dodged.

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
19. No. It is a position. You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but it is a position
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:08 PM
Oct 2015

Live with it.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
20. It is a cowardly dodge. And it is SHE who will have to live with it.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:09 PM
Oct 2015

You deal with that.

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
23. I have no problem dealing with it; I'm comfortable with it.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:10 PM
Oct 2015

Not my overriding issue in this election.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
31. That's fine. But most people will see her as dodging a major issue that affects their lives.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:13 PM
Oct 2015

Marijuana is incredibly important to many people in their lives. It's a fact.

Her lack of courage on the issue is a signal that she is just another politician who will not stand up for issues they care about. And not out of her sense of beliefs or her personal convictions, but purely out of political cowardice.

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
33. I guess we'll find out just how important it is, won't we?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:21 PM
Oct 2015

To be clear, I am committed to supporting the Democratic nominee, whoever he/she may be.

So I am not your enemy.

I am a member of the loyal Democratic ranks.

I have nothing against your candidate.

But I have nothing against the other Democratic candidates.

And should your candidate emerge victorious, I will of course support him/her.

redwitch

(15,261 posts)
40. I have to ask you something. I have been wondering about this for, well, years.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:34 PM
Oct 2015

How do I pronounce your name?

redwitch

(15,261 posts)
43. I have been mentally pronouncing it Zippy Totec all this time.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:39 PM
Oct 2015

I am glad I finally asked and that you had a video all ready!

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
45. I don't think it's cowardly but it's not showing leadership.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:14 AM
Oct 2015

On a no-brainer issue that already has the majority of public support and 17 states will be deciding the issue in 2016 (at least 11 of which will almost certainly pass it, bringing the total to at least 15 legalized states or as many as 21, think about that one for a minute there).

But I think strategically if the country is moving in that direction without pushing for it, why do anything. It worked, strategically, for better or worse, right or wrong, on gay marriage. And that's the safe approach.

I'm not sure I'd call "safe" cowardly.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
24. Nope, she said wait and see on rec pot. Which in most states is an arrest! ......
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:10 PM
Oct 2015

Correct me if incorrect.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
30. You leave out further discussion of reduction of prison pops with stopping arrests for pot.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:12 PM
Oct 2015
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
36. Bullshit.....
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:24 PM
Oct 2015

Watch the clip! She never said to decriminalize it. She just said to stop putting people in prison for it. I assume you know people get arrested all the time don't go to prison!
So she's fine with people getting arrested and have a record of using pot!
Quit making stuff up.

Here you go!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/10/13/hillary-clinton-democratic-debate-marijuana-legalization-sot.cnn

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. She is taking a "states rights" approach to it.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:06 PM
Oct 2015

She's not the only candidate that takes that approach to some issues.

Is it also cowardly to leave gun control to the states?

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
25. LEGALIZE NOW, HILLARY!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:10 PM
Oct 2015

Be bold on something.

I'm tired of the "careful Hillary": the politically careful Hillary.

It was the "careful Hillary" who dragged her feet on supporting gay marriage until the last minute.

It was the "careful Hillary" who voted to give George W. Bush authority to make war on Iraq.

FUCK "careful".




sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
26. She probably wasn't 'briefed' on that question. Clearly she expected the Iraq War
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:10 PM
Oct 2015

and email questions.

We saw that in the posts attempting to minimize it today.

Bernie correctly stated that the email thing ISN'T what the voters are concerned about.

Her campaign is trying to claim that she is dropping in the polls BECAUSE of that. Bernie is correct, that is not the reason.

Both Bernie and O'Malley were impressive.

I really liked Chafee too.

And Webb stated his opinions, even though he knew some of them are not popular with Dems. I like that, he was honest.

Hillary sounded like Bernie, except on the Pot question.




Hydra

(14,459 posts)
41. And in her policies, so good catch there
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:36 PM
Oct 2015

The DLC keeps thinking this is the golden era of RW takeover, rather than the charred remains of what used to be...something else.

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