Yes, Bernie Sanders Defeated Hillary Clinton In The Democratic Debate. Here's Why - HuffPo

[WillyT]

Yes, Bernie Sanders Defeated Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Debate. Here's Why
H. A. Goodman - HuffPo
Posted: 10/14/2015 8:44 am EDT Updated: 56 minutes ago


AP

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Yes, Senator Bernie Sanders clearly won the Democratic debate for a variety of reasons. Clinton was able to convey a hatred of the NRA, but forgot that guns are also used in never-ending wars and Bernie Sanders shined with his call for ending American quagmires. Chafee made a point of stating he wasn't associated with scandals (guess who he was talking about) and while Clinton would not have been so gracious, Bernie Sanders said, "Enough of the emails!" O'Malley seemed to be a more liberal Hillary Clinton and Jim Webb performed well on foreign policy.

For those who feel the former Secretary of State won the debate, remember that Clinton received an early Christmas present from Bernie Sanders. She had no need to explain why Russian-linked hackers tried to access her emails, or why the FBI probe has now expanded to a second tech firm. If Hillary Clinton were catching up to Sanders in the polls, and Sanders had a private server and emails investigated by five intelligence agencies, it's doubtful she wouldn't find some way to gain votes by addressing the scandal. The proof is that Clinton wasted no time differentiating herself from Sanders on gun violence, so just imagine if he had a scandal of similar proportions to the email issue.

Overall, only one candidate conveyed a message that didn't need to be "polished," which apparently is the new word for certain pundits who feel Clinton won. Only one candidate set the tone for the evening. Only one candidate is the reason Hillary Clinton was overwhelmed with joy when her main rival refused to talk about the FBI, CIA, and others investigating emails.

For the record, The Washington Post and The Chicago Tribune also felt Bernie Sanders defeated Clinton and other challengers to win the debate.

Bernie Sanders was the clear winner because ISIS can't control the sun and climate change is indeed our biggest threat at the moment. On wealth inequality, it's difficult for Hillary Clinton to overtake Bernie Sanders on this topic, especially since his championing of the cause is directly tied to being a Democratic-Socialist. In terms of the direction of the debate, it's clear that Bernie Sanders set the stage for a progressive discussion.

True, mass shootings are a horrendous epidemic, but Clinton's Iraq War vote led to unending shooting in the Middle East, and Sanders was far better on foreign policy. Sanders mentioned he earned a D- minus voting record from the NRA, and even as Clinton pontificated and accused Sanders of not being tough enough on guns, it seemed that she and others were simply utilizing the tragedies for votes. Also, we're having an increase of these shootings under a Democratic president, so Congress must act on the issue.

On topics directly related to presidential authority, Sanders had the edge, from ending continual involvement in Middle Eastern conflicts to curbing the "illegal behavior of Wall Street."

However, before analyzing the responses from Sanders, Clinton, and others, let's look at some informal data. Something called the "internet" loved Bernie Sanders after the debate, and although the following surveys were composed of thousands of people (who will most likely be voting in 2016), many skeptics might overlook the data showing Sanders clearly won. They'll say that the over 100,000 people who took the CNN or Time surveys weren't asked the right questions, or that FiveThirtyEight didn't ordain the results with polling holy water.

Nonetheless, human beings have spoken and America should take notice...

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More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/yes-bernie-sanders-defeated-hillary_b_8292280.html

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Is the author of this article, HA Goodman, still gonna vote for Rand Paul?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/im-a-liberal-democrat-im_b_6169542.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/5-reasons-liberals-tired_b_6197694.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/why-president-rand-paul-w_b_6150868.html

[pinebox]

10. The Googles!

[JaneyVee]

19. More like The Giggles!

Hillary has the name recognition and yet people are still googling her.

[pinebox]

20. Name recognition?

Of 99% yet what is happening?

This is happening.
You can try to spin it however you want but Bernie won the internet. Full stop. By a landslide.

[JaneyVee]

24. Talk about spin, non-scientific polls!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRQRdE7UkAAuO94.j

[pinebox]

28. Ya talk about pundits

Yet CNN's own user poll says what?

How's that working out for ya? lol

[brooklynite]

62. I post stories about my cat on Facebook...not a big place for polling

[pinebox]

77. lolok

and I'm sure you'll be singing a different tune when it shows the eventual dem nominee ahead of the Republican in the general.
Sorry, 72% of American adults use social media. You can deny all you want but the days of citizen journalism are here and have been for the last 2 elections.

Remember the polling of the last debates with Obama vs Romney and social media? We all know what happed there.

[brooklynite]

82. Do they USE social media? Yes. Do they engage in POLITICS on social media? No...

...at least not in significant numbers.

[pinebox]

85. Actually

If that was the case, perhaps you can tell us why facebook and twitter are holding debates and sponsoring them. If you think that, you honestly haven't a clue. Politics is absolutely massive on social media. You're talking a medium where campaigns are fought, lost and won. Where revolutions are literally waged.

If you care to take a look, the constant top trends on both facebook and twitter are usually politically related.

What Twitter has meant for politics (and what it hasn’t)
This is from 2013
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/03/21/what-twitter-has-meant-for-politics-and-what-it-hasnt/

Last year, it was a Twitter direct message Jimmy Carter's grandson sent the man who filmed Mitt Romney "47 percent" video that set in motion the events leading to its widespread release.

Think about it.

[Uncle Joe]

92. If you post stories about your cat on Facebook, does that disqualify or diminish your political

opinion about the candidates?

Do cat owners or cat enthusiasts not vote?

[brooklynite]

93. No, it means I don't express my political philosophy on Facebook...and neither do millions of others

[Uncle Joe]

94. It doesn't exclude political commentary on Facebook, I see much of that as well from all sides.

[roguevalley]

111. brooklynite, everyone I know does. you have an opinion, I have one. that doesn't

make it THE opinion.

[Lordquinton]

123. "I don't express my political philosophy on Facebook...and neither do millions of others"

I don't believe you use facebook at all!

[brooklynite]

127. My Facebook 10th Anniversary video...care to share yours?

https://www.facebook.com/chris.bastian.90/videos/10153740818350386/

[pinebox]

130. You don't share your political philosiphy on facebook?

As you said "No, it means I don't express my political philosophy on Facebook...and neither do millions of others" yet in the very video you linked us all to there's this? Derp.

Umm Chris, I think we have a problem with your statements lol

[brooklynite]

131. No, I don't...I share my hobbies and interests.

That's a picture of me enjoying the Convention. There's also the picture of me enjoying the White House Holiday Party. Next week, you'll see pictures of me enjoying a visit to the Iowa GOP cattle-call (If you check the Minneapolis Star-Tribune archives, you should find an article about me as a political tourist) Nothing about my preferred candidates or policy positions, or which internet polls I voted in (answer: none).

[pinebox]

132. I beg to differ

You're sharing your political philosophy by posting photos like that.
That's like saying "I don't share my religion on facebook" but having an avatar of Jesus lol Nothing about candidates or your preferred positions yet what's the logo say in the background?
XD

[brooklynite]

133. Okay, I confess!!! I supported Barack Obama in 2012.

Perhaps you didn't?

[Lordquinton]

135. Whoops

Busted.

[Lordquinton]

134. It was a joke

because people share their political views on FB all the time. You must have carefully groomed your friends list if you don't see any at all.

[Keep-Left]

87. lol

The Bern has lots of young follows and that great news and those are the ones mostly doing facebook polls

but anyone watching that debate who knows anything can see Hillary cleaned it up last night.

It really wasn't close. Bernie I thought did well and got his message out there but this primary wont be close but he did his part.

[roguevalley]

112. keep lol-ing. it does a body good

[Keep-Left]

139. well not all the polls are out

like I said Hillary won in a landslide and now leads Bern in NH

If Bernie won the debate I would say as much. I like him a lot. I been listening to him for years on "Lunch with Bernie" on Thom Hartman show. He is a great man! Im actually closer on his views then Hillary but I like Hillary a lot also. I think it would be great to see the first women President. But if my one vote decided the election I would vote Bernie but he lost that debate hands down.

I just truly think Bernie could never win a general election.

[Flying Shoe]

102. But where is the data?

I could write an article claiming John Kerry won the debate, but if there aren't any facts to back it up, it doesn't matter! That being said, she still could have with her hand-picked audience, etc. but these headlines mean nothing.

[RichVRichV]

118. You demean internet polls as non-scientific

and then post pundit responses to validate your view in the same post. The hypocrisy is humorous.

[cui bono]

120. Talk about spin! You're touting the same media outlets that push Benghazi and Emails.

[onenote]

39. In what universe do 32 percent of viewers think Jim Webb won the debate?

Seriously, that's is the goofiest thing I've seen all morning.

[pinebox]

41. I've seen a couple

where people like the guy. Personally I think it's former military presence and probably people who lean to the right who like the guy.

[Honeylies]

128. Drudge and Reddit seem to like Webb

Drudge I'm not so surprised, but I've seen quite a few people on Reddit calling for a Sanders/Webb ticket!

[ohheckyeah]

45. Webb

32%? LOL

[pinebox]

48. see above

and my response to that

[randome]

68. You hurt science's feelings.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[PatrynXX]

116. I had thought the moment the first debate happens

the shit is gonna hit the fan because this is really the first time say 15 million people learned about an alternative to Hillary. Women don't always vote for other women. I myself don't always vote for democrats. I usually do but sometimes somethings not quite right. I vote for the person I feel is best for the job. Bit hard to attack someone who's Jewish as Muslim right nevermind he's not exactly anti gun. Which sends an underlying WTF to NRA members (not the mouthpiece ) .. Causing Chaos on tried and true. I love it. And of course 2008 the idiots voted for John McCain because he'd be dead in a year. They were voting for Palin. Hmm what year is it. Think John's still dancing. Which ironically he's the one that split it on immigration. Whether you were for or against illegals or undocumented. Generally depended on where you lived. Not liberal or conservative. So my eyes roll when thats brought up. Yeah Bush got in using Hispanics imagine that. and my reaction to tea party members of insta death once they reach the border caused me to react and not in a good way . So I'm not pro illegal but if pushed I can't say what to do with them either.

[SheilaT]

52. For what it's worth,

I often google things I know a lot about because I want to double check some specific readily available fact about them.

[CoffeeCat]

107. All of that name recognition...

...and yet she's losing in Iowa and New Hampshire to a Socialist with a crazy haircut.

In the words of Chevy Chase in National Lampoon's Vacation, "It's nothing to be proud of Russ!".

[Rosa Luxemburg]

119. Yes, Mrs. Wall Street

She admits it I suppose.

[AlbertCat]

60. Is Cali_democrat gonna attack the messenger?

[Cali_Democrat]

78. The author wrote an opinion piece on the debate last night.

His other opinions related to presidential politics is fair game.

[rhett o rick]

88. Wow you got the first response slot. The best place to try to change the discussion.

Sen Sanders wins the debate and your response, "Hey look over their at the author and Rand Paul and other stuff."

[NWProf]

89. Before you take a shot at HA Goodman...

please read his article that he just wrote in 2015. The three articles you referenced in your post "Is the author of this article, HA Goodman, still gonna vote for Rand Paul?" were each written in 2014, a year in which Bernie was still considering a run for the Presidency. Additionally, good ol' boy Rand had made some good points, which HA Goodman compared to Hillary, to her detriment. Hillary had not "evolved" at this time. HA Goodman's blogpost today is the only pro Bernie article in the Huffy Post. Every other article declared Hillary the Winner. So I applaud HA for giving a well reasoned blogpost on why Bernie was the actual winner. I think that now a real Democrat is speaking truth to power, HA has "evolved" back into the Democratic camp. I, for one, welcome him.

[hrmjustin]

2. Sorry but no he did not.

[Hepburn]

7. Sorry but IMO you are wrong

Bernie won over the undecided. Those who love Hillary remained with Hillary. Those who were undecided, they went with Bernie. I emailed my undecided pals this AM to see where they stood after last evening: Out of 10, 9 for Bernie and one still undecided.

[hrmjustin]

8. So your friend reoresents all undecideds? I think not.

[magical thyme]

43. they represent 10 more opinions than your single one does.

[hrmjustin]

44. I will wait for more scientific polls.

[magical thyme]

51. fair enough. I'm not taking pundit claims too seriously myself.

Their definition of "presidential" and my definitiong of "presidential" aren't even close

[restorefreedom]

34. even some with hillary went with bernie

in the CNN and Fox focus groups they did after the debate, half of the people who were for Hillary at the beginning of the debate were for Bernie by the end of it. Imagine extrapolating that out to the electorate.

[appalachiablue]

53. That the post debate CNN focus group went for Bernie is uuge & significant. They Felt the Bern!

[restorefreedom]

84. it was huuuuuuge! nt

[Babel_17]

40. How do we define victory?

I think we all agree that victory exists in opposition to failure. I'm going to argue that both Sanders and Clinton had victories. I think however that Sanders won the most meaningful one.

Secretary Clinton was victorious in looking poised, prepared, and professional. She showed that all the negative attention she's been getting hasn't diminished her likability among Democrats.

Senator Sanders for the first time was in a national debate running as a Democrat. He had to answer question going to his origins and he dealt with them admirably. He finished the debate by being viewed warmly by our party as a whole as a great spokesperson for us. He reached many Democrats who had little idea as to who he was and he's now on their radar after having made a favorable impression.

Young voters, and Independents, got to learn more about the candidate who's been doing extremely well with their demographic. They now have had confirmed his authenticity as the kind of candidate they want to see on the ballot. They represent important "stealth" votes, in key states, that normally can't be counted on for much turnout. Sanders can get these voters to show up while other candidates just don't appeal to them.

We're going to be hearing lots more about issues important to these voters, and Sanders has wisely played the long game by laying out in a deliberate fashion the parts of his platform that win them over to our side. It's also going to become more clear as to why we need the unique appeal of Senator Sanders to voters we've let slip through our fingers.

[Dustlawyer]

98. +1!!! You left out all of the "I agree with Bernie..." statements that show he has set the tone and

issues of the Democratic Party! Hillary is pushed by the big corporations and thus the MSM, there is no getting around it. We knew they would be in the tank for Hillary so it's no surprise.m it just motivates Bernie supporters to help get his message out and work harder!

[99th_Monkey]

50. CNN's own focus group, after the debate, were roughly 75% for Bernie

and many of them were "undecideds" before the debate.

And I don't think CNN has a lot of love for Bernie, esp. after railing on the M$M
with his "Enough about those damned emails!!" lambast

[pinebox]

14. Wrong.

There's so much saying otherwise. So so much.

[hrmjustin]

15. I will wait for the scientific polls.

[JaneyVee]

21. ...

[pinebox]

26. LOL All pundits

And that's the hilarity of it all.
Don't you get it?
MSM is saying Hillary won. The American people are saying Sanders won.

Remind us again who truly IS the American people. It's not your news stations or blog writers. It's people. Remember the whole "corporations are not people" thing? CNN isn't a person. However the irony? CNN user poll says what?

You're doing opinion pieces, I'm showing you end results of people. Huge difference.

Now what?

[daleanime]

35. What? The people?

Well that doesn't count at all.


Just in case

[DeeDeeNY]

37. Good point.

Pundits have their own agenda.

[LiberalLovinLug]

58. +1000

the MSM are smelling more desperate every day. Frantically scrambling to shore up Hillary's numbers. They most likely wrote those headlines even before the debate started.

Make no mistake. The MSM still have a huge influence. Their championing of the Iraq invasion turned a nation into a seething adrenalin pumping mass of middle east hatred....so much they didn't even care it was the wrong country.

Many people do not follow politics like we do on DU. All they will hear is Hillary won this and Hillary won that...and no one can beat her so why even contemplate that?

[AlbertCat]

73. My fave thing this AM....

The AOL news feed's #1 story has a big pic of Clinton with the headline:

CLINTON'S DEBATE SHOWING SPELLS BIG TROUBLE FOR RIVAL

Uh oh!


Then it goes on to talk about..... wait for it.... BIDEN!

[srobert]

101. It Would Only be a Scientific Survey If Hillary Won.

But 450,000 people responding to 15 internet polls is not a scientific sampling. Ignore those polls at CNN, Slate, MSNBC, Salon.com and Time.com, that all show Sanders won by an average of 55% to 85%, and instead read what the "journalists" at those same news sources are saying, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, There is only HILLARY.

[bkkyosemite]

49. And that last poll you have pictured is

almost 1/4 million people who voted and Bernie comes out with over 50% YES!!!

[frylock]

46. Because....?

I don't know if you just skimmed the title, but there are hundreds of words in the post you replied to outlining precisely why the author believes that Sanders won the debate. Perhaps you can express why you believe that is not the case.

[BeanMusical]

105. This question will remain unanswered.

That poster can't even elaborate on his own "opinions" and when pushed to do so the usual reply is "I am done addressing you because______".

[frylock]

109. Just like their candidate, completely void of substance..

she was poised, polished. Looked Presidential. What does any of that mean? Yeah, I'm sure she spent a great deal of time rehearsing for her big scene, but where's the beef?

[AlbertCat]

64. That's nice Dear...

.... but I'm sure you thought that before the debate ever began.

[hrmjustin]

67. Well dear I didn't but thanks for playing.

[Goblinmonger]

69. That couldn't be confirmation bias, could it?

[hrmjustin]

71. The whole gang is coming out to see me. Merely an observation.

[Goblinmonger]

75. Several people have responded to you that I have never seen before.

And I'm just trying to let you know that perhaps your perception was clouded.

I clearly like Bernie. I thought he did great. I'm not converting to supporting Hillary, but there were several moments when I really liked her. Her "Iran on my enemy list" comment was hilarious. I like how she took on the republicans. I like that she said about how everyone there was cool unlike the repubs. She had some moments. Though I nearly spit out my beer when she said she was and always had been a progressive.

[hrmjustin]

81. Well i am just as capable of using my observation abilities as you are and I will leave it at that.

[Lordquinton]

124. Sorry, but he did.

[JaneyVee]

3. This author needs to be banned from DU

He's a Rand Paul fanboy and avid Hillary hater. Not to be taken seriously.

[WillyT]

11. And I'm Always Worried About DUers That Advocate... BANNING... Just Sayin...

[JaneyVee]

13. Plenty of things are banned on DU, notably rightwing hacks who...

Go to great lengths to knock the Democratic frontrunner.

[pinebox]

16. Right

Because let's screw over everybody who thinks differently than you do.
You're sentiments are why so many are sick and tired of politicians and DC these days.

[daleanime]

22. She is human, right?

None of us humans are perfect, especially me.

[Art_from_Ark]

25. What about right-wing hacks who talk out of both sides of their mouth

and collect a paycheck from FOX "News" ?

[in_cog_ni_to]

74. Noooooooooooo! That RW hack deserves to be here because he supports Hillary! silly.

They got rid of one of DU's BEST Progressive writers, who had been on this forum from the beginning and was a Bernie supporter and now they want H.A. Goodman banned because he's a Bernie supporter. They have no shame.

However, they can't get all Bernie supporters banned - there wouldn't be anyone left!

[840high]

103. Bingo!

[roguevalley]

114. you mean David Brock?

[SoapBox]

80. Wow.

So if anyone has a different opinion than yours about a "front runner", they should be banned?

My oh my.

[roguevalley]

113. god then. ban david brock, the one and only Anita Hill bastard. Ban him and his correct the

record drivel and commentary for Hillary. If we're going to ban 'rightwing hacks' then start with him.

[Thespian2]

117. Yep

[Bubzer]

72. You must be new to the party. Welcome! We, as dems, are inclusive...not exclusive.

Yes, I know you're not new... but lets act like dems and not help the GOP by being exclusionary, okay? I've met plenty of die hard dems who kinda like Paul. That's not exactly a crime. We're not the party of purity... that's what the GOP pretends to be.

[AlbertCat]

96. Hillary hater.

There's that "hate" word again.


Now if I see the word "hate" and especially "hater" it's usually a clear sign that everything else in the sentence should be ignored.

It's a buzz-word now. It reeks of fundie religious-like rhetoric.

Besides, this is not a personality contest.

[Colorado Rambler]

99. Seriously?

So, is that how you guys do things around here? Some one who doesn't hold the standard party line and expresses opinions that differ from yours should be banned? Oh please Great One, tell me all your views so I can make all my posts echo yours and I can be allowed to stay on the board. IMO, Bernie made a splendid performance and came across as authentic, passionate, and spot on about the issues currently facing our country. Hillary is very polished - too polished - just another professional politician. Bernie is REAL.

[FlatBaroque]

4. My obsrvation was that Bernnie set the agenda

and led the debate. He won handily. I also learned that Martin O'M is my sixth choice in the five person race.

[retrowire]

97. sixth choice? woah what happened? n/t

[Hepburn]

5. KNR

Bernie won...no question about it in my mind. I watched this debate with a close friend -- an elderly, male, Repubie who is an engineer and very conservative. He loved Bernie. Decided this is who he supports.

[Marty McGraw]

91. Always So Cool

To Hear about a republican coming to a momentary lapse of reasoning. Really hope the spell lasts long enough to get through November of next year.

[kath]

125. Then tell him to be sure to change his registration to Dem so he can help Bernie win the nomination.

( if you are in a closed-primary state, of course)

[uponit7771]

6. Next on DU will be a story from Cornell West about how Obama ni*****rized not only the presidency

... by the whole country.

This guy is a Hillary hater and a Rand Paul fan boy but somehow we're supposed to take him seriously?!?!?

[Le Taz Hot]

12. How did Dr. West get into this?

[uponit7771]

23. The OP article writer and West are dem haters, they shouldn't be taken seriously

[Le Taz Hot]

27. Well, I agree that somebody here

shouldn't be taken seriously.

[uponit7771]

31. Yes, the Bern Victims (tm) and their consummate whining about the MSM who've hated Hillary to

... a crazy degree

[moobu2]

9. lol from H. A. Goodman the biggest Bernie Sanders shill on the Internets.

He probably had this written last week.

[SoapBox]

83. Shill?

Good gawd...where should we begin to take a look at those that are Shills for Hill?

Sorry that Ms. Inevitable is getting a reun for the Presidency.

[DanTex]

17. LOL. HA Goodman strikes again!

[DCBob]

18. LOL.. nonsense.

Anyone watching that without a massive bias knows Hillary won that debate... hands down.

[daleanime]

29. So nice of you to define me like that.....

I'll keep it in mind. That is a shame, because I thought Hillary had done a really solid job. Just felt Bernie had been a little more real and direct, but I'm aware that that is just my opinion. Any awareness for you?

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. No she didn't. Not even clise. n/t

[frylock]

47. Perhaps you could actually counter the authors argument..

and tell us all why you believe that she won, hands down?

[DCBob]

56. Sure..

Here are few reasons off the top of my head.

-- She was firm, confident, intelligent, presidential
-- She zinged Bernie on guns and the Denmark comment
-- She made no errors
-- She handled the stupid email questions perfectly
-- Spoke on foreign policy like an expert. which she is.

And she looked great up on stage. Bernie looked old and tired.

[frylock]

59. okay..

-- She was "polished" and rehearsed.
-- She provided no argument as to how repealing PLCAA would reduce gun violence. "We are not Denmark." Gee, no shit? What did she win on that?
-- She made no errors. As opposed to Sanders numerous errors?
-- Bernie bailed her ass out on the email issue. You're welcome.
-- Spoke on foreign policy like a hawk.

[DCBob]

61. Okay.. that's your take..

Most viewers I think saw it the way I saw it.

Yes, cudos to Bernie for the email comment. That was the best moment of the night.

[frylock]

63. Most pundits saw it your way..

focus groups and online polling saw it otherwise.

[DCBob]

66. Well see when the next polling comes out..

I suspect her numbers go up significantly.

[frylock]

70. We'll see when the primary voting starts.

[frylock]

95. "And she looked great up on stage. Bernie looked old and tired."

I wonder how this would be received if someone were to describe Clinton as looking old and tired? Maybe Sanders could hire Hillary's stylist and makeup artist next time around. In any case, Bernie looked energized to me.

Style over substance.

[Duppers]

108. Talk about bias--you said the TPP is progress!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1070648

[DCBob]

110. Yeah..so?

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. "Polling holy water?" OMG - that's one for the memory bank!

What a great, great piece! YES, Bernie won the debate. It's not even questionable.

Be sure to read all the comments under it! Everyone is supporting Bernie!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[ChiciB1]

32. I Myself Went To One One Of Those 100,000 Bernie Parties AND

since I live in a very Red county there were many NPA's and Indie's. There were forms to register them as Democrats for the Florida Primary and it WENT VERY, VERY, well! Bernie's HUGE take away among other points, his message to GET PEOPLE TO VOTE came through loud and clear!

It's been something that I've harped on for far too many years, it's PATHETIC how many people in this country don't get OFF their asses and freaking vote!

There were close to 45 people who were there and changes were made and ON BOARD for Bernie! I drove home with my friend close to 12:00 A.M. we were excited and happy!

GO BERNIE!

I've been meaning to figure out how to transfer Bernie Banners along with my avatar and don't know how. I already spend so much time of my PC that "time to learn" is at the bottom of my list. I'm a married housewife which should EXPLAIN a lot, but my husband has this belief that women take care of all the stuff in the house, he takes care of outside. Some days it just doesn't even out in any way possible! Yeah, that's my excuse, lame as it may be.

One more thing, we will be out at our local Flea Market registering MORE people every single week! Bernie is making thousand here FeelTheBern!

[KoKo]

86. Thanks for sharing...

[Eric J in MN]

33. The WaPo doesn't have an editorial today about the debates.

It had a pre-debate editorial yesterday, but no post-debate editorials today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-posts-view/

The HuffPo article's link to the WaPo is a column noting that during the debate, a lot of people did Google searches and tweeted about Bernie Sanders.

[gopiscrap]

38. Yeah, Sanders won!!!!

[Hiraeth]

42. I tend to agree that whomever sets the tone, leads the debate thus the winner.

Also he got the winning sound byte for the night with his remark: ENOUGH OF Those DAMN Emails.
It would have been a very different debate if Bernie had not been there.

I thought Hillary did very well as did O'Malley. Chaffee seemed very likable and intelligent but, Webb lost me with that enemy remark although he came across as knowledgeable and reasonable from the beginning.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

65. whomever sets the tone, leads the debate

yes

[oberliner]

54. Not exactly an unbiased source

Some of his other articles:

Why Bernie Sanders Will Become The Democratic Nominee and Defeat Any Republican in 2016

Sanders's integrity and honesty worth more than Clinton's billions

Bernie Sanders Won't Accept Money From Billionaires. Donald Trump Donated $100,000 to Hillary Clinton

When Republicans Nominate A Billionaire, Only Bernie Sanders Will Save Democrats

25 Reasons I'm Voting For Bernie Sanders Over Hillary Clinton

Polling Trajectory Shows Bernie Sanders Winning the Democratic Nomination.

If Edward Snowden Is Right About Clinton's Emails, Bernie Sanders Will Win a Landslide Victory

http://www.hagoodman.com

[Geronimoe]

55. Thought Bernie clearly the winner

Hillary is competent to be President of the rigged system in DC. But for any chance to change the system that doesn't address real issues for Americans, Bernie was the true leader.

It does matter that he didn't vote to give AUMF to Bush and that he isn't taking PAC or large corporate money. Not taking their money he can say Global Warming is the biggest threat. Unlike Hillary who claims a lone wolf with nuclear material is the threat of greatest concern. This only feeds into spending more money on surveillance of all Americans and the military industrial complex.

I like to get rid of Chafee, Webb, and invite Jill Stein to the next debate. I'd really like to see Bernie and Hillary debate Jill Stein.

O'Malley did pretty well also. If we went strongly into renewable, we wouldn't have to be involved in the various civil wars in the Middle East. Renewable are less expensive when you include the Military funding to protect oil interests.

[oberliner]

57. Jill Stein?

She is not a Democrat and is not seeking the Democratic nomination.

[ancianita]

76. AWESOME post! Big K & R!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

79. This thread is hilarious....

The Hillary people are all proud that the Establishment blessed her and non-Establishment news that doesn't bless her is dismissed as being non-Establishment,....all in an anti-Establishment election cycle.

[Aerows]

104. Clearly, the news media

want a Bush vs. Clinton campaign again. Because that way, every corporation benefits.

Clearly, the American people want somebody else in my area. I know my opinion isn't worth dirt because I don't speak on television, I just speak to regular, ordinary people.

Who cares what these worthless voters think, when you can have pundits screaming to high heaven for Jeb and Hillary?

[Uncle Joe]

90. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, WillyT.

[sufrommich]

100. Oh,H.A.Goodman,please get together with the

Unscrewed Polls guy and make my day.

[Metric System]

106. H.A. Goodman again. Does this guy write anything other than pro-Bernie, anti-Hillary articles? I

[SusanaMontana41]

115. I was deeply disappointed that Bernie gave Hillary a pass on the emails.

He rightfully attacked NSA spying but was OK with a public official conducting government business via emails using a private server?

Government secrecy MATTERS.

Deeply, deeply disappointed.

[LostOne4Ever]

122. Government Secrecy Matters

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]Partisan witch hunts don't.

I am glad Bernie Sanders made the comments he did. We shouldn't support smear campaigns against good democrats. This applies to Hillary, Bernie, O'Malley, et al[/font]

[SusanaMontana41]

136. So the FBI under President Obama is conducting a "witch hunt"

by investigating Hillary's use of a private server to send emails that contained CLASSIFIED INFORMATION?

If Donald Rumsfeld had done the same thing Hillary did, and dismissed FBI investigations as "partisan witch hunts" the same way Hillary has, you'd have to be fine with that, too, or you'd be a hypocrite.

Those emails belong to us. I care very much what my government is doing when it thinks nobody's watching.

"We shouldn't support smear campaigns against good democrats. …" ?

"We"? Speak for yourself. I ain't you.

You just go on being a "good Democrat" for Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

I can't attend her party. I wouldn't fit in.

[LostOne4Ever]

137. Yes it is a witch hunt

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]And I would say the same thing if it was Donald Rumsfeld given that the commisions found no evidence of wrong doing. I actually have a sense of justice and fair play.

Of course you aren't me, I wouldn't support a baseless republican smear of well known member of the democratic party. I wouldn't support it if it was Bernie being smeared, O'Malley, Warren, Obama or anyone else.

But if you want to support pure Bull being heaped on an innocent democrat, well I think you might be on the wrong site. Free republic, the disco ball, and the Cave are that way------>

This is DEMOCRATIC Underground. A site for Liberal Democrats.[/font]

[SusanaMontana41]

140. Keep the lectures coming.

I need the yuks.

Oops. Forgot this.

[LostOne4Ever]

141. Popcorn

[JDPriestly]

121. I agree 100%.

[Uben]

126. Who won is subjective, everyone has an opinion

I watched and thought Clinton was the better speaker in that debate. I'll be voting for the nominee, whichever one it is. I like Bernie and Clinton. While Bernie has a great message, can he get it done? That's what I ask myself, and honestly, I don't think he has any chance of pulling off the things he proposes, although I feel he is very sincere about what he says. You know as well as I that getting a bill to traverse congressional houses is difficult and involves a lot of give and take to get any thing passed. Does he have the skills to pull that off? It's easy to say what the people want to hear, but bringing it to fruition is another thing. I believe Clinton has more connections and negotiating skills than Bernie, although Bernie's message resonates more with progressives. I just hope the nominee is able to get something done once elected.

[Progressive dog]

129. When the piece got to Hillary's e-mails and

how Bernie should rely on personal attacks from GOP, instead of focusing on the issues, I started laughing.

Goodman should go to work for the Benghazi committee instead of trying to help Bernie, if that is what that opinion piece was about.

What part of "The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails, Enough of the emails! Let's talk about the real issues facing America." wasn't understood?

[workinclasszero]

138. New Poll Shows Clinton Recovers Lost Ground in N.H.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/10/16/new-poll-shows-clinton-recovers-lost-ground-in-n-h/

But hey, thanks for playing Bernie!