I'd like to thank the mainstream media.

[MannyGoldstein]

Sure, the media is clearly in the bag for Hillary and is obviously ignoring Bernie's big night last night.

But if Bernie wasn't doing so well, and scaring the @#$% out of the comfortable, they wouldn't be pulling this stuff.

Bernie is doing incredibly well, and is scaring the @#$% out of the comfortable.

Think about it; could any sign be clearer than the one we're seeing now?

[JaneyVee]

1. Or they could just be reporting factual assessments of last nights debate.

After months of a Bernie MSM love fest and "Hillary in disarray" articles, they finally were fair and balanced.

[whatchamacallit]

4. So we can trust them now?

[JaneyVee]

6. They'll be back to lies and retractions any day now.

[whatchamacallit]

8. How will we know?

Wait, let me guess - the first negative piece about Hillary means they're back to lying.

[JaneyVee]

10. Check for the retractions far away from the front page.

Start on page 85 crammed between the obituaries and missed connections section.

[Fawke Em]

34. Apparently, you're supposed to trust the same pundit class that had it wrong in 2008.

http://www.alternet.org/media/bernie-won-all-focus-groups-online-polls-so-why-media-saying-hillary-won-debate

[reddread]

19. sure. especially if you support their consolidation concerns.

just get right in the bag.

[Android3.14]

31. I know, those were the good ol' days

It was Bernie News, 24-7. Golly.

[Fawke Em]

35. I must have been in a coma.

I don't remember any Bernie News 24/7.

[JRLeft]

40. I remember Bernie being ignored and viewed as a fringe candidate to push Hillary to the left.

[Renew Deal]

2. Leading in the polls would be a clear sign

Trump has managed to do it. Why can't Bernie? Oh yeah, it's a conspiracy.

I like how you have already started the excuses for Bernie's likely defeat. "
Sure, the media is clearly in the bag for Hillary and is obviously ignoring Bernie's big night last night. "

[Cleita]

23. He lead all the polls and the focus groups.

But don't let facts get in the way of your opinion.

http://www.alternet.org/media/bernie-won-all-focus-groups-online-polls-so-why-media-saying-hillary-won-debate

[Renew Deal]

43. Not all

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141235460

[Cali_Democrat]

3. The excuses have already started

"the media is clearly in the bag for Hillary"

LOL

[JaneyVee]

5. Yes, nothing but a lifetime of glowing coverage for the Clinton's.

[Fred Sanders]

18. Where were you during EGazhi and BGazhi??? The MSM, for years promoting Clinton!???

[zappaman]

7. Yes,the MSM has notoriously ALWAYS been Pro-Clinton!!!

[marym625]

9. K&R!

It's hillaryious to watch the fans of Hillary completely ignore the actual reactions of the American people. Especially while they tout articles about unnamed sources that say, "Hillary won." Who doesn't want their name out there saying that? And if they don't, why not?

Real trustworthy stuff!

#FeelTheBern

[erronis]

22. Yeah, but the pundits on the MSM don't really know about the 'nets.

They may have some emails and some feeds from their own pontifications. But I'll bet that the big names on the NYT, WaPo don't know how to look at twitter counts or read comments in non-M$M media.

Polling (including 538) has been so skewed by "normal" media channels (land-line phone surveys?!?!) that it's laughable.

I don't doubt that the first dem debate showed some strengths and weaknesses of the 5 attendees (Joe in the wings). But I'd hate to make a decision on who did well based on nice coiffure.

[marym625]

33. land line phone!?!?

Who has a landline phone? Even my mom in her late 70s and aunt in her mid 80s have cell phones.

Great points

[Utopian Leftist]

41. Who does use landlines anymore?

I would propose that those who use landlines are likely to be out of touch with technology.

I would also propose that those who are out of touch with technology are more likely to be in Hillary's camp, because of her wider name-recognition.

Which explains why CNN would prefer to poll people on landlines: they can skew poll results to favor their candidate.

Call me cynical, but no one should doubt that this sort of thing passes for "legitimate" polling in America, especially now that our news is all propaganda.

[marym625]

42. our news is all propaganda

Absolutely

[ibegurpard]

11. the media was against her until last night

Now they are above reproach.
I love it!

[Maedhros]

12. Spot on, Manny. [n/t]

[fadedrose]

14. Bernie won even if he lost

He's not the type of man who is needful of the title of President. He wants income inequality to end and crooked Wall Street billionaires to pay their dues.

He laid the groundwork for a revolution. I may not live long enough to see it, and he may not either..

But there is a yearning, a groundswell, that will not die down until Bernie or another champion comes along to finish his and Jane's work...

He's already won in many ways.

[Android3.14]

29. Yup. It's the difference between

being centered and being selfish. The guy is an example of how you deal with reality on your own terms.

[darkangel218]

15. K&R!

[NuclearDem]

16. Is this your new Open Mic Manny persona?

Because that's one of the funniest damn things I've read in a while.

[Le Taz Hot]

17. You mean like when there was 50,000 at the IWR marches

and the MSM reported 5,000? Like that?

They've been doing this shit for a long time.

[reddread]

20. seeing and hearing that with my own eyes woke me up

anyone still lulled to sleep by those liars is a sad fool.
the purveyors perhaps the least principled of souls.

[WillyT]

21. K & R !!!

[ion_theory]

24. K&R n/t

[Thespian2]

25. K & R !!!!

Let's see, um...the corporate-owned media supports the shill for Goldman Sachs, CIBC, etc...does that make sense?


Yes, CIBC paid the 1%er hundreds of thousands of dollars because they are financing the Keystone pipeline...

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

26. I prefer "corporate media". Otherwise, agree 100%.

[demwing]

27. We need to send a sign back

Our very own "I'm mad as hell" moment

[Android3.14]

28. You are definitely on to something

The rush to declare her the victor appears shrill, and is at at best ill-considered. It may even be a strategic error.

I found the performance of both Sanders and Clinton unsurprising. I was somewhat disappointed in Sanders responses on occasion, there was a clumsy dive to the floor and he gave a comradely grin to Webb that I found goofy, but he was able to state his message several times. Hillary spent at least half her time defending herself, grinning at how clever she was at swindling the moderator and candidates for more time, or avoiding a question. Bernie was able to return to his core message within seconds of taking the spotlight.

He spent at least as much time campaigning as Hillary managed.

That smarmy ate-the-canary attitude Clinton displayed multiple times on Tuesday only reinforced my sense that she represents corporations because of a selfish unscrupulous ambition for power.

I don't trust her the length her lapel.

[zentrum]

30. Agreed. But

…the fix that's in is very big. I've seen it before. It's why we're in so much trouble to begin with.

[boston bean]

32. LOL. nt

[elmac]

36. I wished they had the debates on the main networks

no cable TV here and the live CNN feed dropped out about 3/4 through so missed some.

[sabrina 1]

37. Lol, I LOVE that they put up polls asking viewers who won the debate. Viewers overwhelmingly

pick Bernie. Talking Corporate Heads, like Baghdad Bob, assure the voters that THEIR 'scientific' assessment of the situation says Hillary wins.

A dozen Scientific Corporate Media Heads V Hundreds of thousands of Unscientific PEOPLE???

Mmm, that's a tough one. We all know how very credible the Scientific Talking Heads are.

BUT, I have to go with the PEOPLE, being an uscientific one of them!!

Go Bernie!

[azmom]

38. K&R

[Enthusiast]

39. K&R! As if I needed another sign. The MSM doesn't know how obvious they have become.