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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:38 AM Oct 2015

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I asked Rybak if he agreed with those who cast Wasserman Schultz as dictatorial. He said that he did. Calling her decisions “arbitrary” and “reckless,” he went on, “As a Democrat, you have to be able to bring people you don't agree with into the tent. You can't gavel them down out of order when they have a different opinion. You can't go on national TV and say things about them that aren't true. And this is something that frankly a lot of people have kept their mouth shut about for a long time. I have too. But I think the time has come for all those people who come up to me and say this is a problem to stop hiding behind their political expediency. … We have the candidates. We have the issues. There's only one single thing that I see standing between us and a great election coming up and that's the fact that the person who is supposed to leading us is not leading us.”

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From: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-16/insurrection-erupts-at-the-democratic-national-committee


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WOW... (Original Post) WillyT Oct 2015 OP
Hey, hey, ho, ho. Debbie DINO's got to go. Scuba Oct 2015 #1
Hey,hey,ho, ho. Dubious Debbie, has got to go. nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #16
Someone, please Segami Oct 2015 #2
...^ that 840high Oct 2015 #42
Yea,I read this too, wendylaroux Oct 2015 #3
Wow. MuseRider Oct 2015 #4
THIS IS WHAT AN OLD GUARD FLORIDA DEMOCRAT WILL DO. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #5
Testify my brother SwampG8r Oct 2015 #28
The term "DINOS" is too kind a term. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #29
She'd boil live kittens if it would advance HRH. hifiguy Oct 2015 #47
you mean like onethatcares Oct 2015 #41
She should not be representing all, esp considering the wealthy district she comes from. LettuceSea Oct 2015 #6
The party is clearly corrupt. If they can't fix their corruption then it's not a good situation Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #7
Spot on. Maedhros Oct 2015 #25
I wish that were not true. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #35
Knowing R.T.,take what he says to the Bank. Wellstone ruled Oct 2015 #8
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #9
Yes. glinda Oct 2015 #13
DWS being on the scene is the result of Wellstone ruled Oct 2015 #19
Well said. glinda Oct 2015 #48
Debbie will depart after Hillary gets the nomination. That's why she's there in the first place. jalan48 Oct 2015 #10
I rather doubt it would happen even then. She's dug in for the duration, sadly. Ford_Prefect Oct 2015 #17
RT would be a much better DNC chair. geardaddy Oct 2015 #11
Absolutely. glinda Oct 2015 #14
Many have known this all along... SoapBox Oct 2015 #12
Untouchable, they think. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #45
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #15
Round of applause for my former mayor IVoteDFL Oct 2015 #18
Debbie is working for Hillary. And it is a disgrace that she is so abusing her position which is sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #20
This is the way most biased party chairs operate Renew Deal Oct 2015 #22
She was never really a good choice Renew Deal Oct 2015 #21
She's apparently not even a good fundraiser. Wasn't the DNC behind on fundraising this year? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #23
Don't know Renew Deal Oct 2015 #24
Because people don't trust the DNC not to use their money to promote Third Way candidates sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #37
Why did Obama put her there in the first palce? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #27
Don't know. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #30
With all the payoffs clinton got after the convention... Scootaloo Oct 2015 #31
No way Renew Deal Oct 2015 #32
She wouldn't have won, but the Democrats would have lost Scootaloo Oct 2015 #33
My theory Beowulf Oct 2015 #49
also my theory Beowulf. crystal clear to me. A deal was indeed made. nt bonniebgood Oct 2015 #50
The key words he said was 'as a Democrat' zomgitsjesus Oct 2015 #26
Heard they've recruited a former Republican to run against Grayson Fawke Em Oct 2015 #52
they used to say "we care about winning: THEN you can make your needs known" MisterP Oct 2015 #34
We have a facist party and a center-right party fbc Oct 2015 #36
Democratic Dry Rot Fairgo Oct 2015 #38
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #39
Just like to say: I'm proud of the responses here. YES!! BlueJazz Oct 2015 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #43
Debbie W Schultz as to go. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #44
RT Rybak is one of the Good Guys. hifiguy Oct 2015 #46
K & R!!! Thespian2 Oct 2015 #51
Fuzzy Wassy's got to go. Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #53
I always read anti-Democratic publications for information about Democratic Party people. /s Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #54
The piece was authored by John Heilerman Babel_17 Oct 2015 #57
Do you think John Heilemann is liberal or ? nt Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #58
If you check his bio you can see who his co-author is Babel_17 Oct 2015 #59
Two conservatives writing together do not make liberal. Why do you think they are liberal? Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #60
I don't. But they're not conservatives Babel_17 Oct 2015 #61
I can assure you they are not liberal. nt Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #62
So? The issue here is about saying that the piece had been written by a Conservative attack dog Babel_17 Oct 2015 #63
Yes, my point was why post a conservative political attack for the Republicans on DU? Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #64
Ok, we're just talking in circles Babel_17 Oct 2015 #65
I love DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #55
We can see the rot starts at the very top of the DNC avaistheone1 Oct 2015 #56
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
2. Someone, please
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:43 AM
Oct 2015

drop a net on her and cart her a$$ away. She is utterly horrible at best!

Baitball Blogger

(52,341 posts)
5. THIS IS WHAT AN OLD GUARD FLORIDA DEMOCRAT WILL DO.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:00 AM
Oct 2015

We have been living with this problem all this time. They carry out their own agendas, and don't be surprised to find Republicans in their close group of cronies.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
28. Testify my brother
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

As a Floridian I have never felt as fucked over as the FDP makes me feel every election

Baitball Blogger

(52,341 posts)
29. The term "DINOS" is too kind a term.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:40 PM
Oct 2015

These people infiltrate the system and carry out an agenda that can be defined by whatever group owns them. In Florida, usually it's the real estate industry. Whatever group controls the local Chamber of Commerce will give you a clue to who controls the agenda. From there, they begin to spread misinformation in the community to insure their success and protect their turf.

The good ole gals have been known to have less scruples than the good ole boys.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
47. She'd boil live kittens if it would advance HRH.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:46 PM
Oct 2015

She stumps for her Repig friends.

WHY in the name of the FSM was this babbling incompetent - and I am toning down, considerably, what I want to call her here - appointed to head the DNC?

LettuceSea

(337 posts)
6. She should not be representing all, esp considering the wealthy district she comes from.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:04 AM
Oct 2015

I'm all for a big tent party, but he duties should be limited to representing her district. Its absurdly tone deaf to have her as the face of the democratic party leadership.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
7. The party is clearly corrupt. If they can't fix their corruption then it's not a good situation
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:08 AM
Oct 2015

At that point we would have to admit the Democratic Party is a lost cause. If the well meaning people in the party aren't able to fix blatant corruption.

It's too easy to scapegoat one person, DWS. It's the institution that is failing because it allows for things like this to happen.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Knowing R.T.,take what he says to the Bank.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:08 AM
Oct 2015

The Guy came up through the DFL ranks and is as honest as the day is long.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
19. DWS being on the scene is the result of
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:44 AM
Oct 2015

the old DLC people doing their best to remake the Party into a Third Way Wall Street Elitist Party. All one has to do is remember Rahm Emanuel's thirteen state strategy. Ask yourself were did this smelly turd originate and in that lies today's lesson. The Famous Photo of who's peering out from behind the curtain comes to mind.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
10. Debbie will depart after Hillary gets the nomination. That's why she's there in the first place.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:23 AM
Oct 2015

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
17. I rather doubt it would happen even then. She's dug in for the duration, sadly.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:39 AM
Oct 2015

I agree she's there to guarantee HRC is nominated. Her actions and comments make it abundantly clear that the fix is in.

Have no doubt she expects some kind of plum for services rendered in the HRC administration or on wall street.

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
11. RT would be a much better DNC chair.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:30 AM
Oct 2015

And that's from someone who had him as mayor and didn't agree with him on everything.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
12. Many have known this all along...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:31 AM
Oct 2015

But she's finally getting some light of day shown on her.

I don't think she gives a shit at all! She has her agenda for The Annointed One and that is that. She probably believes that she, along with all the other powerful, rich, Entrenched Establishment crowd, are untouchable.

They are as rotten to the core as any of the other of the others in America that we complain about.

Really, really DISGUSTING.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
20. Debbie is working for Hillary. And it is a disgrace that she is so abusing her position which is
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:04 PM
Oct 2015

supposed to representing all members of our Party.

Renew Deal

(85,144 posts)
22. This is the way most biased party chairs operate
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:10 PM
Oct 2015

All the way down to the county level. It's just unusual to see it at the DNC.

Renew Deal

(85,144 posts)
21. She was never really a good choice
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

There is no way she can be a congress member and DNC chair at the same time. Maybe she's a good fundraiser, but she's a terrible organizer. They should give it back to Dean or someone with broader organizational skills and more time.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. She's apparently not even a good fundraiser. Wasn't the DNC behind on fundraising this year?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:14 PM
Oct 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. Because people don't trust the DNC not to use their money to promote Third Way candidates
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:52 PM
Oct 2015

rather than those THEY support. She sure isn't getting any money from most Dems I know who are disgusted by the Third Way policies pushed by DNC backed Third Way candidates.

So yes, she has lost funding AND the DNC lost the House and Senate because they choose to pour money into candidates the people don't support.

And refuse to put money behind candidates who are challenging eg, Chris Christie. The DNC abandoned the Progressive Dem who could have defeated that corrupt Republican but when your own party members ENDORSE the corrupt Repub and the leadership refuses to provide any assistance, your campaign is pretty much doomed. 60 NJ Dems endorsed Christie! So what are we to make of that kind of thing re the DNC and the party in general?

They would rather have a bullying, corrupt Republican than a Progressive Democrat?

And they think people don't notice these things?

Renew Deal

(85,144 posts)
30. Don't know.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:44 PM
Oct 2015

DWS was a great Clinton surrogate. Don't know if it's a favor to Hillary or he was impressed with her. I think the job is too big for her.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
31. With all the payoffs clinton got after the convention...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:45 PM
Oct 2015

I'm starting to wonder if she threatened to run as independent.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
33. She wouldn't have won, but the Democrats would have lost
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:52 PM
Oct 2015

That's all that's needed to make a threat. Plus it worked out for Joe Lieberman...

Beowulf

(761 posts)
49. My theory
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:24 PM
Oct 2015

Is that Obama needed the Clintons' active support in 2008 to win the election. The price for that support was the Secretary of State position for Hillary and the Clintons choosing the DNC chair. I think the deal between Obama and the Clintons was about clearing the path to the 2016 nomination for Hillary.

zomgitsjesus

(41 posts)
26. The key words he said was 'as a Democrat'
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:27 PM
Oct 2015

DWS isn't really a Democrat. She gave campaign cash to two Republicans in Florida instead of their Democratic opposition. Not a Democrat at all.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
52. Heard they've recruited a former Republican to run against Grayson
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:18 PM
Oct 2015

to take him out in the Democratic primary, too.

Can't people see through this bullshit?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
34. they used to say "we care about winning: THEN you can make your needs known"
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:03 PM
Oct 2015

but soon they realized that people WERE making themselves heard so they'd rather have the Senate 50-49 and tell us they can't do anything because it's so tight (they were RELIEVED when the Supermajority was over)--heck if they lose Washington they can pretend to be underdogs and say they'd NEVER behave so conservatively, all while getting the same amount of donations (so they felt comfortable throwing CT and AR)

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
36. We have a facist party and a center-right party
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:21 PM
Oct 2015

When do progressives get a party?

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
38. Democratic Dry Rot
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:03 PM
Oct 2015

Eventually, when core values are carved out in favour of political expediency, the white ants take up residence in the hollow. They wear the costume shell of democracy like a halloween mask and demand your obedience. Choose. Trick? or Treat? Trust me, they are dead serious.

Response to WillyT (Original post)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
46. RT Rybak is one of the Good Guys.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:43 PM
Oct 2015

We in Minneapolis have known that for a long time.

Let's all chip in and buy DWS a large anchor.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
54. I always read anti-Democratic publications for information about Democratic Party people. /s
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 04:31 AM
Oct 2015

Egads, I am beginning to believe twenty-five percent of the content here is conservative attack posts and twenty five percent is libertarian attack posts.

What can be called liberal Democratic or even the pro-corporate/bank/Wall Street Democratic is lost in the I am such a good liberal feel good posts.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
59. If you check his bio you can see who his co-author is
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:29 AM
Oct 2015

Journalists are usually somewhat discrete as to their political leanings. Heilemann is an example of that, as far as I can tell. Though his list of gigs strongly suggests somewhat left of center. And if we weigh heavily the politics of his co-author, Mark Halperin, as part of this equation, then we can say Heilemann is even more progressive than just "somewhat left of center".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Halperin

John Heilemann being a dyed in the wool liberal isn't the issue. You referred to his piece in the context of "anti-Democratic publications", and "conservative attack posts and twenty five percent is libertarian attack posts". I offered a point of view arguing that, by using his resume, that context doesn't apply to the article by Heilemann.

But even though it's not the issue here, I'd all answer your question by saying I see him as liberal on some issues, moderate on others. Possibly more liberal overall than Secretary Clinton.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
63. So? The issue here is about saying that the piece had been written by a Conservative attack dog
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:37 PM
Oct 2015

The guy who, according to Chris Matthews, "You had her in the fetal position there,", in regards Sarah Palin.

“I can’t put down this book!” —Stephen Colbert



Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
64. Yes, my point was why post a conservative political attack for the Republicans on DU?
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 03:39 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe we need a form/group or what everthings are named here labeled What Conservative/Republican are Saying.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
65. Ok, we're just talking in circles
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 04:11 PM
Oct 2015

You apparently won't accept the article's author as anything but a Republican attack dog. Though for a moment in time it looked to me like you had landed on him as merely being not liberal. Though if you equate "not a liberal" as akin to being a Republican attack dog, that would be consistent.

You're welcome to your position(s); I have no more time for trying to persuade you otherwise as to the author's credibility as a journalist.

But have a good day. Cheers!

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
56. We can see the rot starts at the very top of the DNC
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:37 AM
Oct 2015

Our future is doomed unless we dump this woman.

Bye bye Debbie.

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