2016 Postmortem
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I asked Rybak if he agreed with those who cast Wasserman Schultz as dictatorial. He said that he did. Calling her decisions arbitrary and reckless, he went on, As a Democrat, you have to be able to bring people you don't agree with into the tent. You can't gavel them down out of order when they have a different opinion. You can't go on national TV and say things about them that aren't true. And this is something that frankly a lot of people have kept their mouth shut about for a long time. I have too. But I think the time has come for all those people who come up to me and say this is a problem to stop hiding behind their political expediency. We have the candidates. We have the issues. There's only one single thing that I see standing between us and a great election coming up and that's the fact that the person who is supposed to leading us is not leading us.
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From: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-16/insurrection-erupts-at-the-democratic-national-committee
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)drop a net on her and cart her a$$ away. She is utterly horrible at best!
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)not good,all the way around.
MuseRider
(35,176 posts)Agreed.
Baitball Blogger
(52,341 posts)We have been living with this problem all this time. They carry out their own agendas, and don't be surprised to find Republicans in their close group of cronies.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)As a Floridian I have never felt as fucked over as the FDP makes me feel every election
Baitball Blogger
(52,341 posts)These people infiltrate the system and carry out an agenda that can be defined by whatever group owns them. In Florida, usually it's the real estate industry. Whatever group controls the local Chamber of Commerce will give you a clue to who controls the agenda. From there, they begin to spread misinformation in the community to insure their success and protect their turf.
The good ole gals have been known to have less scruples than the good ole boys.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)She stumps for her Repig friends.
WHY in the name of the FSM was this babbling incompetent - and I am toning down, considerably, what I want to call her here - appointed to head the DNC?
onethatcares
(16,992 posts)Allison Tant?
LettuceSea
(337 posts)I'm all for a big tent party, but he duties should be limited to representing her district. Its absurdly tone deaf to have her as the face of the democratic party leadership.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)At that point we would have to admit the Democratic Party is a lost cause. If the well meaning people in the party aren't able to fix blatant corruption.
It's too easy to scapegoat one person, DWS. It's the institution that is failing because it allows for things like this to happen.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)How can the Party let this happen? Or is this business as usual now?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)The Guy came up through the DFL ranks and is as honest as the day is long.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the old DLC people doing their best to remake the Party into a Third Way Wall Street Elitist Party. All one has to do is remember Rahm Emanuel's thirteen state strategy. Ask yourself were did this smelly turd originate and in that lies today's lesson. The Famous Photo of who's peering out from behind the curtain comes to mind.
glinda
(14,807 posts)jalan48
(14,914 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,610 posts)I agree she's there to guarantee HRC is nominated. Her actions and comments make it abundantly clear that the fix is in.
Have no doubt she expects some kind of plum for services rendered in the HRC administration or on wall street.
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)And that's from someone who had him as mayor and didn't agree with him on everything.
glinda
(14,807 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)But she's finally getting some light of day shown on her.
I don't think she gives a shit at all! She has her agenda for The Annointed One and that is that. She probably believes that she, along with all the other powerful, rich, Entrenched Establishment crowd, are untouchable.
They are as rotten to the core as any of the other of the others in America that we complain about.
Really, really DISGUSTING.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Well, we need to show them better.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)IVoteDFL
(417 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)supposed to representing all members of our Party.
Renew Deal
(85,144 posts)All the way down to the county level. It's just unusual to see it at the DNC.
Renew Deal
(85,144 posts)There is no way she can be a congress member and DNC chair at the same time. Maybe she's a good fundraiser, but she's a terrible organizer. They should give it back to Dean or someone with broader organizational skills and more time.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Renew Deal
(85,144 posts)But that could be because of money going to campaigns
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)rather than those THEY support. She sure isn't getting any money from most Dems I know who are disgusted by the Third Way policies pushed by DNC backed Third Way candidates.
So yes, she has lost funding AND the DNC lost the House and Senate because they choose to pour money into candidates the people don't support.
And refuse to put money behind candidates who are challenging eg, Chris Christie. The DNC abandoned the Progressive Dem who could have defeated that corrupt Republican but when your own party members ENDORSE the corrupt Repub and the leadership refuses to provide any assistance, your campaign is pretty much doomed. 60 NJ Dems endorsed Christie! So what are we to make of that kind of thing re the DNC and the party in general?
They would rather have a bullying, corrupt Republican than a Progressive Democrat?
And they think people don't notice these things?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Renew Deal
(85,144 posts)DWS was a great Clinton surrogate. Don't know if it's a favor to Hillary or he was impressed with her. I think the job is too big for her.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I'm starting to wonder if she threatened to run as independent.
Renew Deal
(85,144 posts)She wouldn't do it. She knows that wouldn't work.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)That's all that's needed to make a threat. Plus it worked out for Joe Lieberman...
Beowulf
(761 posts)Is that Obama needed the Clintons' active support in 2008 to win the election. The price for that support was the Secretary of State position for Hillary and the Clintons choosing the DNC chair. I think the deal between Obama and the Clintons was about clearing the path to the 2016 nomination for Hillary.
bonniebgood
(958 posts)zomgitsjesus
(41 posts)DWS isn't really a Democrat. She gave campaign cash to two Republicans in Florida instead of their Democratic opposition. Not a Democrat at all.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)to take him out in the Democratic primary, too.
Can't people see through this bullshit?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)but soon they realized that people WERE making themselves heard so they'd rather have the Senate 50-49 and tell us they can't do anything because it's so tight (they were RELIEVED when the Supermajority was over)--heck if they lose Washington they can pretend to be underdogs and say they'd NEVER behave so conservatively, all while getting the same amount of donations (so they felt comfortable throwing CT and AR)
fbc
(1,668 posts)When do progressives get a party?
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)Eventually, when core values are carved out in favour of political expediency, the white ants take up residence in the hollow. They wear the costume shell of democracy like a halloween mask and demand your obedience. Choose. Trick? or Treat? Trust me, they are dead serious.
Uncle Joe
(65,127 posts)Thanks for the thread, WillyT.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Response to WillyT (Original post)
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BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)We in Minneapolis have known that for a long time.
Let's all chip in and buy DWS a large anchor.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)No surprise here...she publicly supported Republican candidates in Florida...
Unknown Beatle
(2,691 posts)Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Egads, I am beginning to believe twenty-five percent of the content here is conservative attack posts and twenty five percent is libertarian attack posts.
What can be called liberal Democratic or even the pro-corporate/bank/Wall Street Democratic is lost in the I am such a good liberal feel good posts.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)A very prominent journalist and not right wing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Heilemann
http://www.bloomberg.com/personalities/john_heilemann/
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Journalists are usually somewhat discrete as to their political leanings. Heilemann is an example of that, as far as I can tell. Though his list of gigs strongly suggests somewhat left of center. And if we weigh heavily the politics of his co-author, Mark Halperin, as part of this equation, then we can say Heilemann is even more progressive than just "somewhat left of center".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Halperin
John Heilemann being a dyed in the wool liberal isn't the issue. You referred to his piece in the context of "anti-Democratic publications", and "conservative attack posts and twenty five percent is libertarian attack posts". I offered a point of view arguing that, by using his resume, that context doesn't apply to the article by Heilemann.
But even though it's not the issue here, I'd all answer your question by saying I see him as liberal on some issues, moderate on others. Possibly more liberal overall than Secretary Clinton.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)The guy who, according to Chris Matthews, "You had her in the fetal position there,", in regards Sarah Palin.
I cant put down this book! Stephen Colbert
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Maybe we need a form/group or what everthings are named here labeled What Conservative/Republican are Saying.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)You apparently won't accept the article's author as anything but a Republican attack dog. Though for a moment in time it looked to me like you had landed on him as merely being not liberal. Though if you equate "not a liberal" as akin to being a Republican attack dog, that would be consistent.
You're welcome to your position(s); I have no more time for trying to persuade you otherwise as to the author's credibility as a journalist.
But have a good day. Cheers!
stonecutter357
(13,045 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Our future is doomed unless we dump this woman.
Bye bye Debbie.