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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:57 AM Oct 2015

Millenials are the key to Democratic success, and overwhelmingly, they want Bernie

Obama rode a wave of youth support to the Democratic nomination and the White House in 2008, connecting with them and motivating them to show up in November.
In 2014, however, Democrats saw their Senate majority slip away as candidates across America ran to the center to appeal to the oft-cited-and-fawned-over "swing voters," and Millenials stayed home as a result.

Millenials (ie the 18-34 demographic) are the most fickle of all voter groups, and it's tough to get them to turn out. Older, mostly retired voters can be counted on to turn out regardless, but the trick to success is getting the Millenials excited.

So then, who gets the Millenials excited?
Overwhelmingly, the answer is Bernie Sanders.
The latest national Quinnipiac Poll breaks down favorability by age:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us09242015_ui47mfb.pdf


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/15/1432947/-Millenials-are-the-key-to-Democratic-success-and-overwhelmingly-they-want-Bernie?detail=facebook
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Millenials are the key to Democratic success, and overwhelmingly, they want Bernie (Original Post) Bubzer Oct 2015 OP
I can't see the younger people wanting to vote for the Status Quo that has so screwed them Hydra Oct 2015 #1
Nailed it ... "If no real change is presented, why expect support?" nt slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #2
They won't. Avalux Oct 2015 #40
Yes, they are pissed off about having their opportunities taken away from them and they liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #59
K&R - and it's not just Millenials who love Bernie 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #3
Great post! Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #34
Thank you. nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #41
Yes, I agree. Great post. azmom Oct 2015 #54
But! It's! Her! TURN! Scootaloo Oct 2015 #4
Just Like Last Time... 2007/2008 WillyT Oct 2015 #5
In the three hours I spent trying to register new voters... Duckfan Oct 2015 #6
Millennials (also known as the Millennial Generation[1] or Generation Y) jtuck004 Oct 2015 #10
From the Book PADemD Oct 2015 #12
I'm a millennial AJH032 Oct 2015 #7
But what does it mean? Duckfan Oct 2015 #8
It means they came of age around the year 2000 (the millenial) or later thesquanderer Oct 2015 #19
Remember Windows Millenial Edition? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #66
Canadian Liberals just got a Landslide DESPITE POLLS!!! cprise Oct 2015 #9
No they didn't dsc Oct 2015 #17
Which poll was that? cprise Oct 2015 #47
the cbc poll tracker dsc Oct 2015 #48
IIRC it shifted right near the end, didn't show a majority result. cprise Oct 2015 #53
they were fairly close in percentages dsc Oct 2015 #58
Why the late, strong trend? People digging in to research candidates cprise Oct 2015 #63
And if millennials don't get their binky? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #11
You sound like you need a binky. nt malokvale77 Oct 2015 #14
Or they just move back home and live off their parents. leftofcool Oct 2015 #29
Are you freaking kidding me? Our young azmom Oct 2015 #55
Hurling insults is totally the best way to get voters to support your cause. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #31
If they don't vote for Clinton they'll go under the bus. arcane1 Oct 2015 #52
Nice disdain for a generation artislife Oct 2015 #37
Then you don't get their votey. Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #56
Sanders would make a great vice president uponit7771 Oct 2015 #13
My grandkids are certainly enthusiastic about Bernie. nt malokvale77 Oct 2015 #15
And overwhelmingly they are the least informed, least self-less of the electorate. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #16
What is the basis for such a statement? stillwaiting Oct 2015 #21
Thats a GOP talking point. Bubzer Oct 2015 #23
I agree and also the least likely to vote. I work with many, many young people, most Tipperary Oct 2015 #25
Well, for their entire adult life, we've given them the choice between jeff47 Oct 2015 #32
You Don't know a thing about milleneals azmom Oct 2015 #57
I think I disagree that they are the least informed. I see all jwirr Oct 2015 #62
Bernie isnt going to win the nomination moobu2 Oct 2015 #18
While you've got your crystal ball out, mind getting winning lottary numbers as well? Bubzer Oct 2015 #24
I would think in these terms we need baby boomers treestar Oct 2015 #20
This year, Millennials will overtake Baby Boomers Fumesucker Oct 2015 #22
The baby boomers are more likely to vote. Tipperary Oct 2015 #26
I am the first of the Baby Boomers 1946 bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #27
Three baby boomers in our household and all 3 are Bernie supports and 1 "greatest generation" is in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #38
Nope. There are more millennials than boomers now. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #33
Yep! 83.1 million millennials and 74 million boomers. Millennials support Bernie and are going in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #36
strange because the boomers did not necessarily replace themselves. treestar Oct 2015 #43
Yep. Both generations started out the same size jeff47 Oct 2015 #44
Polls are showing Robbins Oct 2015 #28
Short term thinking artislife Oct 2015 #39
Yes they do! My son, his girlfriend and everyone he knows on campus supports Bernie. Even his in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #30
The millenials in my area tend to be very excited about Bernie. Bubzer Oct 2015 #35
They are the key to our success but also the key to our midterm losses and any voting segment that Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #42
Minorities are the key to Democratic success. And we love Hillary. nt. LexVegas Oct 2015 #45
then get ready for Robbins Oct 2015 #50
Exactly. jwirr Oct 2015 #65
you sure are sure of yourself. There are all kinds of groups that can claim to be the key liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #61
As a millenial, if you're staking Bernie's chances of winning on us, it's over. StrongBad Oct 2015 #46
I hate these things that single out one group treestar Oct 2015 #49
Bernie's greatest achievement will be making it acceptable or OK to vote for someone like him randys1 Oct 2015 #51
I'm a Millenial for Hillary. Metric System Oct 2015 #60
And here I thought the "H" meant Hankerin for Bernie... Bubzer Oct 2015 #64

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
1. I can't see the younger people wanting to vote for the Status Quo that has so screwed them
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:02 AM
Oct 2015

I vote so that I can happily point out how little it is doing when I do my advocacy. If no real change is presented, why expect support?

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
40. They won't.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:51 AM
Oct 2015

As my 23 year old daughter tells me - her generation perceive that the older generations (boomers to be exact), have taken away their hope for the future - millenials realize they must take action to change the status quo instead of helplessly watching the continuing regression of this country.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
59. Yes, they are pissed off about having their opportunities taken away from them and they
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:36 PM
Oct 2015

are not going to vote for those they feel are responsible which is both parties. They give me hope that maybe we can change things.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. K&R - and it's not just Millenials who love Bernie
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:27 AM
Oct 2015

it's people who are simply decent human beings who have come to realize that they
have been sold a bill of goods, shafted, bled white by the Billionaire Class, and they
are in open revolt, and Bernie gives them/us a legitimate democratic avenue to non-
violently implement a bloodless revolution to restore some semblance of a level playing
field between haves & have-nots.

Bernie is a rare bird, a decent human being who's decided that "Enough is Enough!" and
he's going for it. I'd be a fool - and so would any other decent human being -- for not
giving this man my full support for the long haul.

Go Bernie!!

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
6. In the three hours I spent trying to register new voters...
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:10 AM
Oct 2015

...I only had 2 guys in that 3 hour time-frame across from a high school. Both were turning 18 in December. What a coincidence. And yes, they want to vote for Bernie. I guess 2 is better than 0.

Just a quick note, I'm probably sounding too old fashioned (which I am), where did this term, "millenials" come from and what does it mean?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. Millennials (also known as the Millennial Generation[1] or Generation Y)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:40 AM
Oct 2015

are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends; most researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s

Wiki:

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
12. From the Book
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 06:13 AM
Oct 2015

Generations: The History of America's Future,
by Neil Howe (Author), William Strauss (Author)

William Strauss and Neil Howe posit the history of America as a succession of generational biographies, beginning in 1584 and encompassing every-one through the children of today. Their bold theory is that each generation belongs to one of four types, and that these types repeat sequentially in a fixed pattern. The vision of Generations allows us to plot a recurring cycle in American history -- a cycle of spiritual awakenings and secular crises -- from the founding colonists through the present day and well into this millennium.

Generations is at once a refreshing historical narrative and a thrilling intuitive leap that reorders not only our history books but also our expectations for the twenty-first century.

http://www.amazon.com/Generations-History-Americas-Future-1584/dp/0688119123


AJH032

(1,124 posts)
7. I'm a millennial
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:21 AM
Oct 2015

Feels so nice that everyone wants me!

But in all seriousness, I love both Bernie and Hillary and will be excited to vote for either one!

thesquanderer

(11,996 posts)
19. It means they came of age around the year 2000 (the millenial) or later
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:02 AM
Oct 2015

so, people born after about 1980.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
66. Remember Windows Millenial Edition?
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:14 PM
Oct 2015

Okay, bad example because that constantly crashed and would take all your stuff with it.

(Hmm, maybe not such a bad example after all.)

dsc

(52,169 posts)
58. they were fairly close in percentages
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:33 PM
Oct 2015

within the MOE. Given the late surge and the lack of polling on the day of the election it is understandable that they would have missed the end of the trend. As to majority vs non majority, national polls would be only of limited help there given it was a district by district contest.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
63. Why the late, strong trend? People digging in to research candidates
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:56 PM
Oct 2015

at the last minute... procrastination?

azmom

(5,208 posts)
55. Are you freaking kidding me? Our young
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:17 PM
Oct 2015

Kids are up to their eyeballs in debt because college has gotten so expensive.

Many of them have to live with their parents,; they have no choice. For you to make such comment is so damn insensitive.

How old are you? And why do you hold milleneals in such discontempt. They are smart, engaged, more liberal and more tolerant than any generation before them.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
52. If they don't vote for Clinton they'll go under the bus.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:41 PM
Oct 2015

Soon we'll be hearing that they're "not real Americans" or some such nonsense.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
37. Nice disdain for a generation
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:45 AM
Oct 2015

that will have to live with the climate change and debt that all the rest of the generations left for them.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
56. Then you don't get their votey.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:27 PM
Oct 2015

So maybe it would be best to stop with the condescension and come to the negotiating table, lest you get an outcome not particularly to be desired.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
21. What is the basis for such a statement?
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:57 AM
Oct 2015

I'd say the older generations that rely more on traditional mainstream media are less informed since they get most/all of their information from one of the greatest propaganda machines that humanity has ever seen.

Younger generations are more discerning about where they get their information.

Also, if younger generations are more strongly embracing more socialist policies then doesn't that make them more "selfless" than older generations that don't want their taxes to go up (even if older generations are living very, very well and their taxes would go to help their children's and grandchildren's futures)?

I'd say you got that backwards. Strike it. Reverse it. Younger generations desire to not becoming indentured servants as they start out life is not being selfish in my opinion. Their parents and grandparents desire to not have their taxes raised while they are living very, very well would be much more selfish.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
25. I agree and also the least likely to vote. I work with many, many young people, most
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:45 AM
Oct 2015

of whom are college educated. I have been astounded at their ignorance of the current election and their utter apathy toward it. Mostly what I hear is that they just do not believe it matters if they vote or not. They are all a great group, intelligent and good at what they do, but they seem much more interested in social media than in the election.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
32. Well, for their entire adult life, we've given them the choice between
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:25 AM
Oct 2015

get shit on, and get shit on with an occasional apology.

Why, exactly, would you expect them to be excited about those choices?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
62. I think I disagree that they are the least informed. I see all
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:55 PM
Oct 2015

of my younger family using the internet to talk together about what is happening and I am often amazed at the level of detail they pull together. Not sure what you mean by self-less?

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
18. Bernie isnt going to win the nomination
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 07:49 AM
Oct 2015

so they'll have to figure out what they support and go with it.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
22. This year, Millennials will overtake Baby Boomers
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:02 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/16/this-year-millennials-will-overtake-baby-boomers/

This year, the “Millennial” generation is projected to surpass the outsized Baby Boom generation as the nation’s largest living generation, according to the population projections released by the U.S. Census Bureau last month. Millennials (whom we define as between ages 18 to 34 in 2015) are projected to number 75.3 million, surpassing the projected 74.9 million Boomers (ages 51 to 69). The Gen X population (ages 35 to 50 in 2015) is projected to outnumber the Boomers by 2028.

The Millennial generation continues to grow as young immigrants expand their ranks. Boomers – a generation defined by the boom in U.S. births following World War II — are older and shrinking in size as the number of deaths exceed the number of older immigrants arriving in the country.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
27. I am the first of the Baby Boomers 1946
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:53 AM
Oct 2015

and I am voting for Bernie Sanders. Young people are too...nice combination.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
38. Three baby boomers in our household and all 3 are Bernie supports and 1 "greatest generation" is
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:47 AM
Oct 2015

Also voting for Bernie. Three generations in my family - Bernie supporters.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
36. Yep! 83.1 million millennials and 74 million boomers. Millennials support Bernie and are going
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:42 AM
Oct 2015

to vote!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
43. strange because the boomers did not necessarily replace themselves.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:05 PM
Oct 2015

they came from big families but had fewer children. Is the same number of years being counted?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
44. Yep. Both generations started out the same size
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:16 PM
Oct 2015

but Boomers have had a lot more time to "leave the voter pool".

they came from big families but had fewer children.

Which is why GenX is so small.

Millennials are generally the grandchildren of Boomers. (This breaks down a little at the edges, say younger Boomers or older Millennials.)

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
28. Polls are showing
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:57 AM
Oct 2015

Dems don't care what Millenials want.I guess they have to hope Dems can win without Millenials.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
39. Short term thinking
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:48 AM
Oct 2015

Dems seem only to worry about the next election. Just like the republicans.

We need a 100 year plan, because this may be the last chance at one we will have.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
30. Yes they do! My son, his girlfriend and everyone he knows on campus supports Bernie. Even his
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:00 AM
Oct 2015

Female BOSS supports Bernie! A guy who interviewed him for a job supported Bernie. I'm telling you, this movement is much, much larger than Obama's support. - which was huge. The PTB are going to be very sad next November, 2016.

Millennials are highly motivated and are working their behinds off to get Bernie elected. There's zero excitement for Hillary.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
35. The millenials in my area tend to be very excited about Bernie.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:31 AM
Oct 2015

They see the state of the economy and the shreds that are left of our social safety net. They keenly feel how precarious a position they're in.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
42. They are the key to our success but also the key to our midterm losses and any voting segment that
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:59 AM
Oct 2015

wishes to exert political power has to show up all the time. Certainly any segment that wants to congratulate itself for being influential should habitually and consistently prove that influence at the ballot box.
The larger picture is not quite as flattering but if understood it is far more empowering. Currently they are why we win when we do and why we lose when we lose. Both things. Only one of those things is positive.
Youth turnout, 2014-21.5%

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
50. then get ready for
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:35 PM
Oct 2015

more job losses with tpp and more trade deals
more for profit prisons
contuning militizan of police
more war
the end of unions and contuning decline of working class.
gutting of social safety net

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
61. you sure are sure of yourself. There are all kinds of groups that can claim to be the key
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:46 PM
Oct 2015

the Democratic success. I could say the same thing being an Independent.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
49. I hate these things that single out one group
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:33 PM
Oct 2015

and says we need them and therefore have to give them what they want.

They are not enough to choose a nominee by themselves. Polls show Hillary far ahead.

If they are going to stay home in a snit, it's their own future they are handing to the Republicans.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
51. Bernie's greatest achievement will be making it acceptable or OK to vote for someone like him
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:40 PM
Oct 2015

Whether he wins or not, what he is achieving with his no apology approach to why capitalism must be looked at, is going to benefit everyone down the road.

There will be NO road to go down, however, if we do something REALLY stupid and act in such a manner that gives the election to the idiots.

Like not showing up to vote because our candidate didnt win.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
64. And here I thought the "H" meant Hankerin for Bernie...
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:00 PM
Oct 2015


The article does say there are Millennials who support HRC.
The prinmary thrust of the article is that there are more Millennials who have a net positive view of Bernie.
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