Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:23 AM

artislife (9,497 posts)

When will the Democratic Party ask itself why it is losing so many members?

The Democratic Party is in the business of selling.

But the crowds are not getting excited to come out for their Big Sales Event. Instead of wondering what is wrong with the consumers, why aren't they looking at the Made in China crap that they are trying to sell? It used to be fun to look at the Wish Book and pick and choose from all the Made in America merchandise and dream of the big day it got delivered.

Now we get a crap selection and it is thrown on the porch by a disgruntled Fed Ex guy.

What would the Democratic Party have to do to regain it's loyalty customers back?

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When will the Democratic Party ask itself why it is losing so many members? (Original post)	artislife	Oct 2015	OP
"Moderate" doesn't get people very excited	AgingAmerican	Oct 2015	#1
when hillary loses the ge	restorefreedom	Oct 2015	#2
In 2008, my Kucinich voting friends	artislife	Oct 2015	#3
Yes, I was thinking the as the gop dies out the two party	jwirr	Oct 2015	#48
the green party has been doing well, as evidenced by all the elections they have been winning	still_one	Oct 2015	#57
This ^^^^^^	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Oct 2015	#87
Registered Independents now the largest voting bloc in the country as voters flee both major parties	sabrina 1	Oct 2015	#144
Some people register as independent because their state has open primaries, where independents have	still_one	Oct 2015	#150
Not necessarily.	Fawke Em	Oct 2015	#161
OK, I stand corrected for the generalization. I was speaking for my state, California, and as I	still_one	Oct 2015	#164
i think maybe	restorefreedom	Oct 2015	#123
Bwahahahah.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Oct 2015	#4
+1	daleanime	Oct 2015	#95
They think the left has to do all the work	artislife	Oct 2015	#138
Many will claim that	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Oct 2015	#140
^^This	artislife	Oct 2015	#143
Well said.	liberal_at_heart	Oct 2015	#145
I certainly hope Progressives start their own party, should the DNC steal the election for Hillary -	in_cog_ni_to	Oct 2015	#9
Green Party?	BlueStateLib	Oct 2015	#26
they have been winning elections all over the place	still_one	Oct 2015	#59
So now that polls show Clinton pulling away, you're pre-emptively calling voter fraud?	StrongBad	Oct 2015	#27
isn't that amazing.	still_one	Oct 2015	#61
Yes. And ridiculous.	StrongBad	Oct 2015	#126
Waht polls? You mean the bogus, Corpoate Owned ABC poll? Bogus. And actually,	in_cog_ni_to	Oct 2015	#136
We still have to get past the hurdle of the superdelegates - 20% of all delegates........	LongTomH	Oct 2015	#44
she has nothing in the bag.	restorefreedom	Oct 2015	#124
"if the superdelegates try to override the will of the people and tilt the election........."	LongTomH	Oct 2015	#132
then they better enjoy themselves	restorefreedom	Oct 2015	#133
Nah, DWS will have work - as a "Democratic Strategist" commentator on Fox Noise.	Scuba	Oct 2015	#156
then she will fit right in. nt	restorefreedom	Oct 2015	#157
Indeed.	Scuba	Oct 2015	#159
Has DWS been involved in stealing elections via reprogramming voting machines?	emulatorloo	Oct 2015	#62
That's not the solution. If we can't keep control of our own party, we wouldn't be able to keep	rhett o rick	Oct 2015	#125
Oh For Fuck's Sake! Shark Jump Alert!!!!!	Darb	Oct 2015	#127
Yep. n/t	Dawgs	Oct 2015	#22
I don't think she will lose if she wins the primary (I'm a Bernie backer).	jalan48	Oct 2015	#41
Earlier this year	fredamae	Oct 2015	#5
This^^^^twice I have asked my local party leader if there is	jwirr	Oct 2015	#58
They're clinging to the notion that "Not as bad" is good advertising.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Oct 2015	#6
AS long as the party big shots are getting rich while losing elections,	Doctor_J	Oct 2015	#7
Exactly!	HooptieWagon	Oct 2015	#21
The Dem party is losing members to Bernie?	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#8
You know that's not what the OP said.	JRLeft	Oct 2015	#10
It's the analogy I'd read. And lets be fair, but I did ask for a clarification n/t	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#24
Clearly your hatred of Sanders is influencing how you perceive reality	Scootaloo	Oct 2015	#49
Clearly.	frylock	Oct 2015	#65
I don't "hate" Sanders. You are very wrong on this.	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#71
The party is just losing members	artislife	Oct 2015	#13
any actual data?	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#23
see post 35	artislife	Oct 2015	#36
nope, the waxing and waning of registration is THE constant	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#74
This story ran yesterday...	Fawke Em	Oct 2015	#63
Great article	artislife	Oct 2015	#147
Always twisting the words...	SoapBox	Oct 2015	#34
nope, didn't twist anything	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#76
Bernie is REBUILDING the Democratic Party, by bringing in millions of disaffected pissed-off	99th_Monkey	Oct 2015	#68
Bernie is calling Democrats home, the ones that have moved to the suburbs don't want to return. nt	Snotcicles	Oct 2015	#96
This doesn't jive with the op	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#134
so then you may be contradicting the OP. The party isn't losing voters, there's a net gain?	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#131
No definitive proof of "millions", but looking at the total number of Registered Dems, etc.	99th_Monkey	Oct 2015	#141
thank you for taking the time to put that al together	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#148
You're welcome.	99th_Monkey	Oct 2015	#149
Seriously, the smaller the Democratic party becomes, the easier it will be to control from within.	Baitball Blogger	Oct 2015	#11
Exactly right.	zeemike	Oct 2015	#64
Good post	dreamnightwind	Oct 2015	#73
First thing would be to reinstate (something like) the Fairness Doctrine and the Equal time act.	BlueJazz	Oct 2015	#12
This sounds like DU 1.0	cprise	Oct 2015	#43
Dems retake lead in party affiliation	sufrommich	Oct 2015	#14
Precisely...	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#15
Yep. The numbers don't lie. nt	sufrommich	Oct 2015	#17
...	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#20
see post 35 nt	artislife	Oct 2015	#38
Are you serious?	Dawgs	Oct 2015	#28
I will ignore the ad hominems as my stellar character precludes me from	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#31
What ad hominem? You made an incorrect statement and were called out for it..	frylock	Oct 2015	#67
Good luck on getting a reasoned response.	Dawgs	Oct 2015	#84
+1	BeanMusical	Oct 2015	#92
Sorry but Independant =/= Swing	cprise	Oct 2015	#45
The percentage of voters who swing from party to party is relatively small	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#56
For empirical data, look to local/state and also 2014 midterms	cprise	Oct 2015	#66
That actually confirms my thesis	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#70
Yes. But, ah, you said "our voters"	cprise	Oct 2015	#88
Two points	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#89
What you should do is thank us	cprise	Oct 2015	#91
And I would like to see the data that supports your claim.	zeemike	Oct 2015	#78
Accumulated polling data suggests	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#82
No I questioned your conclusions.	zeemike	Oct 2015	#100
I posted links from Pew and Gallup	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#103
Check post #104. 43% identify as independents as of Jan 2015	PotatoChip	Oct 2015	#108
Please see Post 107	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#109
Again it is your conclusions I question.	zeemike	Oct 2015	#112
Many are like me and my wife.	Fuddnik	Oct 2015	#46
"The numbers may not lie, but they don't always tell the real story, either. "	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#135
I think what you may be observing is a poll that asked Indies previously surveyed to chose	PotatoChip	Oct 2015	#104
Is this a fair way of looking at it?	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#107
I don't know if it's fair or not. I'm just presenting another related poll I found interesting. (nt)	PotatoChip	Oct 2015	#111
This isn't from the data but i suspect some folks hold themselves out as independents	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#114
That certainly could be the case here. (nt)	PotatoChip	Oct 2015	#117
I vote for the most liberal and electable* Democrat in the primaries	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#118
Me too! Always have. (nt)	PotatoChip	Oct 2015	#120
I used to live in Seminole County, FL...	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#121
I have never voted for a Republican either.	PotatoChip	Oct 2015	#130
but .. but ... THAT'S SCIENCE DAMMIT!!!	uponit7771	Oct 2015	#99
The problem seems to be lack of education of what	Gman	Oct 2015	#16
"the only winning move..."	antigop	Oct 2015	#18
That was a good movie	artislife	Oct 2015	#153
Seems to me that neutralizing the Dem party forever is their goal. nt	Zorra	Oct 2015	#19
Too insular for introspection	whatchamacallit	Oct 2015	#25
Speaking of insularity	cprise	Oct 2015	#51
Return to working for We the People...	99Forever	Oct 2015	#29
The Primary is the Big Sales event, the 2008 primary saw huge gains in registration and turnout	Bluenorthwest	Oct 2015	#30
Too many leaders are Chamber of Commerce Democrats.	earthside	Oct 2015	#32
days of democratic party being liberal are done	Robbins	Oct 2015	#37
A Bernie win would change that	cprise	Oct 2015	#54
2010 and 2012-historic losses at local, state and federal levels by "electable" Democrats, yet	merrily	Oct 2015	#33
Interesting graph	artislife	Oct 2015	#35
I'm the hell out of the Democratic Party sometime next year.	SoapBox	Oct 2015	#39
I'm out too	MissDeeds	Oct 2015	#69
Number one: Play fair in the Primary.	jwirr	Oct 2015	#40
I just did an OP on this, but: Jim Webb was a celebrity rising star in the party 10 years ago	Recursion	Oct 2015	#42
the middle of the road	green917	Oct 2015	#47
Unrec. The Democratic party is growing. That's one of the reason the national move-to-the-left	FSogol	Oct 2015	#50
The democratic party isn't left	Robbins	Oct 2015	#52
Hyperbolic nonsense. Polls? Compare our party platform to the GOP's. Ours is progressive.	FSogol	Oct 2015	#60
"Compared to the GOP."	Scootaloo	Oct 2015	#72
Neither is tearing the party down in thread after thread because HRC rose in the NH polls.	FSogol	Oct 2015	#77
I do not worship a political party.	Scootaloo	Oct 2015	#80
I wasn't talking about you. I'm a member of the Democratic party and will vote for their nominee.	FSogol	Oct 2015	#83
Really? No matter how far right the party goes you will pick their nominee? Really? n/t	Dawgs	Oct 2015	#86
Has the Democratic party EVER nominated someone to the right of the GOP (in the last 75 years)?	FSogol	Oct 2015	#90
Got it and not surprised.	Dawgs	Oct 2015	#93
Over a year until the election and some on DU are already advocating not voting.	FSogol	Oct 2015	#97
You talking about me? n/t	Dawgs	Oct 2015	#101
Why the FUCK are we setting our standards by the GOP?	Scootaloo	Oct 2015	#106
I've always pushed for progressive candidates, donating or working on campaigns	FSogol	Oct 2015	#110
We should not use the GOP as our yardstick.	Scootaloo	Oct 2015	#113
I'm not. Life is about choices. If you select one candidate, you are not selecting another.	FSogol	Oct 2015	#116
Seriously. Now -there's- a high bar!	Jester Messiah	Oct 2015	#105
Hillary and Martin and Joe are Made in China?	randys1	Oct 2015	#53
They could start by being democratic.	zomgitsjesus	Oct 2015	#55
Never. It would have to care first.	CharlotteVale	Oct 2015	#75
We don't have card-carrying members	RandySF	Oct 2015	#79
This message was self-deleted by its author	NCTraveler	Oct 2015	#81
NPA in closed primary Florida?	hay rick	Oct 2015	#152
I don't know if the Democratic Party is net losing members. I know it is losing elections.	merrily	Oct 2015	#85
The problem is the party's brand is being defined by its deep-pocketed opponents.	hay rick	Oct 2015	#94
Sanders already answered that last year no? tia	uponit7771	Oct 2015	#98
Who declared Bash Your Own Party day?	L. Coyote	Oct 2015	#102
Bashing Hillary is a losing concern. She is practically untouchable even by Gowdy....	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#139
With 30% of the public identifying with the Democratic party and losing members every year...	raindaddy	Oct 2015	#115
This message was self-deleted by its author	Corruption Inc	Oct 2015	#119
The Republican party is also losing members	mythology	Oct 2015	#122
Is it? According to whom?	NurseJackie	Oct 2015	#128
good luck getting any actual facts from the OP	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#137
Says who?	zappaman	Oct 2015	#129
Look who is on the rise	artislife	Oct 2015	#162
The party will never question why it is losing members. It is too busy blaming the voters.	liberal_at_heart	Oct 2015	#142
Who wants to know?	Skidmore	Oct 2015	#146
I want to know	artislife	Oct 2015	#154
When they realize they're turning in to Republicans, and I don't mean the ones Leaving .	orpupilofnature57	Oct 2015	#151
"Moderate" doesn't get people very excited	AgingAmerican	Oct 2015	#155
chart	onenote	Oct 2015	#158
doesn't seem to support the OP	Sheepshank	Oct 2015	#163
Maybe by running Democrats for office! That might help....nt	Walk away	Oct 2015	#160

Response to artislife (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:26 AM

AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)

1. "Moderate" doesn't get people very excited

Toothless, tepid non solutions for America.

When will the Democratic Party ask itself why it is losing so many members?

1. "Moderate" doesn't get people very excited

2. when hillary loses the ge

3. In 2008, my Kucinich voting friends

48. Yes, I was thinking the as the gop dies out the two party

57. the green party has been doing well, as evidenced by all the elections they have been winning

87. This ^^^^^^

144. Registered Independents now the largest voting bloc in the country as voters flee both major parties

150. Some people register as independent because their state has open primaries, where independents have

161. Not necessarily.

164. OK, I stand corrected for the generalization. I was speaking for my state, California, and as I

123. i think maybe

4. Bwahahahah.

95. +1

138. They think the left has to do all the work

140. Many will claim that

143. ^^This

145. Well said.

9. I certainly hope Progressives start their own party, should the DNC steal the election for Hillary -

26. Green Party?

59. they have been winning elections all over the place

27. So now that polls show Clinton pulling away, you're pre-emptively calling voter fraud?

61. isn't that amazing.

126. Yes. And ridiculous.

136. Waht polls? You mean the bogus, Corpoate Owned ABC poll? Bogus. And actually,

44. We still have to get past the hurdle of the superdelegates - 20% of all delegates........

124. she has nothing in the bag.

132. "if the superdelegates try to override the will of the people and tilt the election........."

133. then they better enjoy themselves

156. Nah, DWS will have work - as a "Democratic Strategist" commentator on Fox Noise.

157. then she will fit right in. nt

159. Indeed.

62. Has DWS been involved in stealing elections via reprogramming voting machines?

125. That's not the solution. If we can't keep control of our own party, we wouldn't be able to keep

127. Oh For Fuck's Sake! Shark Jump Alert!!!!!

22. Yep. n/t

41. I don't think she will lose if she wins the primary (I'm a Bernie backer).

5. Earlier this year

58. This^^^^twice I have asked my local party leader if there is

6. They're clinging to the notion that "Not as bad" is good advertising.

7. AS long as the party big shots are getting rich while losing elections,

21. Exactly!

8. The Dem party is losing members to Bernie?

10. You know that's not what the OP said.

24. It's the analogy I'd read. And lets be fair, but I did ask for a clarification n/t

49. Clearly your hatred of Sanders is influencing how you perceive reality

65. Clearly.

71. I don't "hate" Sanders. You are very wrong on this.

13. The party is just losing members

23. any actual data?

36. see post 35

74. nope, the waxing and waning of registration is THE constant

63. This story ran yesterday...

147. Great article

34. Always twisting the words...

76. nope, didn't twist anything

68. Bernie is REBUILDING the Democratic Party, by bringing in millions of disaffected pissed-off

96. Bernie is calling Democrats home, the ones that have moved to the suburbs don't want to return. nt

134. This doesn't jive with the op

131. so then you may be contradicting the OP. The party isn't losing voters, there's a net gain?

141. No definitive proof of "millions", but looking at the total number of Registered Dems, etc.

148. thank you for taking the time to put that al together

149. You're welcome.

11. Seriously, the smaller the Democratic party becomes, the easier it will be to control from within.

64. Exactly right.

73. Good post

12. First thing would be to reinstate (something like) the Fairness Doctrine and the Equal time act.

43. This sounds like DU 1.0

14. Dems retake lead in party affiliation

15. Precisely...

17. Yep. The numbers don't lie. nt

20. ...

38. see post 35 nt

28. Are you serious?

31. I will ignore the ad hominems as my stellar character precludes me from

67. What ad hominem? You made an incorrect statement and were called out for it..

84. Good luck on getting a reasoned response.

92. +1

45. Sorry but Independant =/= Swing

56. The percentage of voters who swing from party to party is relatively small

91. What you should do is thank us