Biden Says Predecessor Cheney Is a ‘Decent Man’

[Purveyor]

“I actually like Dick Cheney for real,” Vice President Joe Biden says at moderated discussion with former Vice President Walter Mondale at George Washington University.

Cheney was a “powerful” vice president who had his own national security staff; “he had a very different relationship with President Bush,” Biden says

* Biden says he volunteered to cede most of that shadow team to Obama’s first national security adviser, didn’t want a satellite operation

* The relationship between Cheney and President George W. Bush was more “codependent”

Mondale disagrees with Biden’s compliments of Cheney, saying while the Republican was personally “kind to me,” “he said early on that he was going to take things to the dark side” and did

more...

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2015-10-20/biden-says-predecessor-cheney-is-a-decent-man-

[kelliekat44]

1. Well! That doest it!! Anyone who can see decency in Dick Cheney is not perceptive enough to be

President.

[villager]

3. That's for sure.

If he can't see Cheney for what he really is, he'll be lousy in dealing with the GOP at large....

[whatchamacallit]

8. Hillary's IWR vote indicates she agrees with Biden n/t

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[oasis]

51. You have reached a new dimension in conclusion jumping.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. You have reached a new dimension in conclusion jumping and non sequiturs.

FIXED

[brush]

26. Yep! He cooked any chance of getting support after complimenting that war criminal

Shows he's a little out of touch with the feelings of people in the party.

I never thought he would run though. His son just died and then there is the baggage from the Anita Hill hearings and the plagiarism incident.

[Hortensis]

46. Okay! What's THIS about? He's already touting all his great

friendships across the aisle. Elect him and the GOP will once again become a grand old party of smiling, reasonable gentlemen?

Ben Carson's ultra-mild and mellow posturing has definitely struck a chord with a large group of the easily fooled on the right. Maybe Biden's getting inspiration from that? If so, how he would carry off being everyone's friend but Hillary's would be interesting.

[99th_Monkey]

2. Biden "likes Republicans", thinks Cheney's a "decent man".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=703846



I do NOT want this guy as POTUS, period.

[virtualobserver]

7. he going to box Hillary in, between himself and Bernie

he will be " the guy who can work with the Republicans "

[99th_Monkey]

10. We the People want "the guy who will stop selling-out workers & middle class to the GOP"

his name is Bernie Sanders.

[virtualobserver]

13. Thankfully, we have that option

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. I am not a fraction as smart as Hillary Clinton but I would own Joe Biden in a debate

I am not a fraction as smart as Hillary Clinton but I would own Joe Biden in a debate for saying Dick Cheney is a "decent man" and the Republican aren't our enemies:


Joe- "the Republicans are our friends and Dick Cheney is a decent man."

Me- "Was Dick Cheney a decent man when he basically called Barack Obama a traitor and called him the worst president in history. Were the GOP our friends when they called Barack Obama an illegal alien and shouted "you lie" during his State Of the Union speech...

[Hortensis]

48. Biden's counterparts in the GOP have chewed him up and spit him out more than once.

Don't forget to add some of those stories to your repertoire. Just in case.

[virtualobserver]

61. Hillary can't do that.

He is the sitting VP and the President'a close friend.

The Vice-Presidency adds power to his candidacy.......George Bush Sr. and Al Gore could never have won the nominations prior to being VP.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. Hillary can't call out the GOP for their calumnies against President Obama?

Republican Dick Cheney called him a traitor, Republican Joe Wilson called him a liar , and House Republicans started a petition to demand his birth certificate. Hillary can certainly call them out for their perfidy. The fact Joe Biden gave her an opening you can drive an eighteen wheeler through indicates to me he really doesn't want to be pres or he has the political acumen of a city councilperson in some small suburban city.

And the question was "what enemies have you made that you are most proud of" Hillary can say the Republicans hate President Obama and they hate me too.


I had a forced early retirement and have plenty of time... If Biden wants sound political advice. He should hire me. I will work cheap.

[virtualobserver]

65. It won't work that way if she tries to nail Biden with it.

the "Biden is such a nice guy" meme is nothing to be trifled with.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. Biden said Cheney is a decent guy...

Few Democrats believe that the man who called Barack Obama a traitor:

I vacillate between the various theories I’ve heard, but you know, if you had somebody as president who wanted to take America down, who wanted to fundamentally weaken our position in the world and reduce our capacity to influence events, turn our back on our allies and encourage our adversaries, it would look exactly like what Barack Obama’s doing...“I think his actions are constituted in my mind those of the worst president we’ve ever had."

-Dick Cheney

is a "decent guy"

Hillary would deliver it more in sorrow than in anger.

Dick Cheney, a nice guy!!!

P.S. Legal definition of a traitor- Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution

[virtualobserver]

67. How would that make her look good?

What is the benefit derived from this?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. By defending Obama from the man who called him a traitor.

Calling the man who called Obama a traitor a "decent man" is anathema to Democrats...

It would be akin to the Apostle Paul telling the early Christians Judas Iscariot was a "decent man."

You can fit the Democrats who think Dick Cheney a decent man in the back seat of a Chevey Volt.

[virtualobserver]

70. She wouldn't be defending Obama, she would be attacking Biden.

Cheney isn't running....attacking him personally is pointless.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. She won't bring it up unless he brings it up...

He's the one who says he likes Cheney and the Republicans.


But if he does she will dismiss him with same surgeon's scalpel she used on Lincoln Chaffe . He also has no lane. He occupies the same ideological space as Hillary...He's actually to her right...


"President Obama loves me more than you" does not a campaign make.

[katmondoo]

4. If this is true I am done with Biden

Hurts me to read this.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Me too.

[6chars]

35. Down with Joe!

[SunSeeker]

6. No, Joe, the definition of "decent" is not anyone who is nice to Joe Biden.

[Purveyor]

9. Yeah, that pretty much does it for me... eom

[olddots]

11. once again he proves his shallowness .

[BillZBubb]

12. Biden needs to get his meds checked.

His view of reality is very warped. There is nothing decent about Cheney--nothing.

[BootinUp]

14. So was Anikan

I am just trying to make sense of this, lol.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. If you put a gun to my head I could find nice things to say about a Republican

Dick Cheney isn't one of them. If it were up to him he would turn us into compost, literally...

[MineralMan]

16. Hmmm....that doesn't bode well for his possible

candidacy for the Democratic nomination. That, along, would disqualify him from my support.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. What do you think of my observation?

I believe Cheney hates us and considers us traitors.

[MineralMan]

18. I think the feeling is mutual, pretty much.

Dick Cheney does not have the good of this country in his heart. He never has had, regardless of which heart was beating in his chest.

I consider him an evil man with evil intent, and have been angry that he was the acting POTUS for so long. I will not mourn his passing.

Traitor? Yes, I consider him a traitor.

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. Headlines from Biden should remain in The Onion

since that's the only press he got for 7 years.

Tell me the truth......... Onion story right? ....... Cheney is kind and liked and decent?..............Onion or Bizzaro world.

Never liked Biden myself especially after watching the hearings he headed

Enough with the Joe Biden nonsense: The real reasons why the D.C. media loves him, but progressives should run away screaming

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/10/enough_with_the_joe_biden_nonsense_the_real_reasons_why_the_d_c_media_loves_him_but_progressives_should_run_away_screaming/

[Politicalboi]

20. Justice Thomas is a decent man too, right Joe

I sure hope he stays out of the 2016 election.

[Dawson Leery]

21. How many black families did Biden break apart with his

horrific law and order policies?

[Walk away]

22. Will Joe open his mouth and end his run before it begins???

Probably.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I don't think marrying oneself to Dick Cheney is neither right nor moral

I don't think marrying oneself to Dick Cheney by saying he is a "decent guy" is neither right nor moral:

“I vacillate between the various theories I’ve heard, but you know, if you had somebody as president who wanted to take America down, who wanted to fundamentally weaken our position in the world and reduce our capacity to influence events, turn our back on our allies and encourage our adversaries, it would look exactly like what Barack Obama’s doing,” Cheney said when asked whether he thought the president is naïve or something else.

“I think his actions are constituted in my mind those of the worst president we’ve ever had,” he said.

-Dick Cheney

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/dick-cheney-calls-obama-worst-president-116758#ixzz3p9ClMftl

[restorefreedom]

24. soooo glad i was voting bernie anyway

there is no redeeming quality to darth vader. i always try and find one positive thing to say about a person. but i can't find a single thing nice to say about him. he's pure evil.


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[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I realize I have a bias and what I say can be seen through those lens

But saying Cheney is a decent guy and making nice with the Republicans is not a winning strategy in a Democratic primary.

All one has to do is cite all the calumnies the GOP has perpetrated on his president.

If he watched the debates and all he could come with to separate himself from Hillary is that she said she made enemies of the Republicans and he likes them doesn't speak well of his political acumen.

[brush]

29. Yep! First point on sending up trial ballons to see whether to run for the Dem nomination

Don't call a hated repug war criminal a decent guy.

Sorry, Joe. You're done before you even started.

[restorefreedom]

34. perhaps we are seeing

some of the reasons he never won the other times he ran

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. His appeal is his affability but he says some stupid things...

We are supposed to overlook his gaffes...

"In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking"


I guess that's funny to some people, the some people who aren't from India.

[restorefreedom]

38. i think he tries to be genuinely nice

but just doesn't seem to be able to pull it off without offending people.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. It is an interesting sociological observation but comes off as incredibly racist.

I do notice a phenomenon where recent immigrants will take over a chain gas station or convenience store that failed and make it work as an independent business... I attribute it to be willing to work longer hours for less money and thus increasing the profit margin.

But I wouldn't put it the way Joe did.

[restorefreedom]

42. yup. foot. mouth. chew. thats joe. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. He doesn't have a governor like most politicians...

That's a blessing and a curse, it's the former unless you are the target.

[BlueCheese]

50. I forgot about that one.

What a gaffe machine that guy is.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. In fairness PBO and HRC have had some ethnic gafffes as well...

But for them it is the exception and not the rule.

I would be a hypocrite if I said I never think in ethnic terms and make jokes in my head but I swear I always keep them to myself.

[Juicy_Bellows]

39. Vader has the best theme music in the business and James Earl Jones.

He's not ALL bad.

[restorefreedom]

41. if only dick could acquire

a smidgen of the goodness of dv, well then i guess he would have smidgen of a smidgen.

yes, the music is awesome!

[Juicy_Bellows]

45. Yeah, Cheney is pure evil.

He's a real life walking something or other unlike our fictional beloved Vader.


As far as I know, in all the movies and literature, Vader never shot his buddy while hunting - I may have missed it.

Cheers!

[restorefreedom]

47. vader has some integrity, in his own way. nt

[Juicy_Bellows]

49. He was slipped a mickey.

[restorefreedom]

52. lol! nt

[ladjf]

27. That's it Joe. I'll never vote for anyone with such bad judgment. nt

[ladjf]

28. Well, it didn't take long for Joe to "put his foot in his mouth". nt

[liberal_at_heart]

30. Doesn't pushing the base aside for reaching across the isle usually wait until the GE?

This is kind of strange, unless he really isn't running.

[BlueCheese]

33. Biden is well-known for making crazy statements.

He once claimed he could do well in the South because Delaware was a slave state.

[BlueCheese]

32. Obviously anyone running for president has to have huge self-regard.

Even the ones on our side.

But Biden strikes me as having an even bigger ego than the average presidential candidate. He got almost no support in his two previous runs, polls show he has less than 20% of the vote despite very high name recognition, and a plurality of Democrats don't want him to run. But he's still considering a run.

Now he's changing his story about the Osama bin Laden raid and praising Dick Cheney. Way to go, Joe.

[DCBob]

43. Why on earth would he say that??

I would never associate that word with that man.

[Liberal Lantern]

53. If this is the case, then it's over before it starts for Joe.

This is the last thing that any liberal, progressive or socialist would EVER want to hear anyone from this side of the political spectrum to say.

Enjoy your retirement Joe...

[Android3.14]

54. Stick a fork in him

He's done.

[bullwinkle428]

55. Let's see. "Abortion is always wrong". "Cheney is a decent man".

Do we really have to go any further?

[Mike Nelson]

56. Blech...

He will be out of the race early.

[Tipperary]

58. Oh Christ! I love Joe Biden, but this might be a deal breaker for me. If you came into the

race, Joe, I was willing to listen and reconsider. But no, Cheney is evil personified in my opinion.

"Co-dependent???" More like a master with his beaten dog. Oh, this is upsetting to me. Joe, Joe, say it ain't so Joe.

Sad to say, but no matter how old we get, there is always someone/thing that can surprise us in the most unpleasant way.

Oh well. In some ways I guess this makes it easier for me if he does enter. Still...I am feeling very jaded tonight. I am thinking they are all bedfellows (strange or otherwise).

[msrizzo]

59. Damn...

I think even think Cheney thinks of himself as a "decent" man.

[lovemydog]

60. Cheney is a kind man.

The kind that makes me puke.

[TheKentuckian]

64. Establishment Democrats have consistently poor judgment and dicey integrity

[stevenleser]

69. I can't begin to imagine why he felt the need to say this. nt

[BlueCheese]

72. Here's an idea...

If Biden wants to be president so much, maybe Obama can resign one day before the end of his term, and let Biden be president for a day. He can get sworn in and everything. Then Biden can stay out of the race and spare everyone else the agony.