A Very Unscientific Poll...

[WillyT]

About my Katy Perry touring with Bill Clinton in Iowa Thread... Which I was locked out of...

And earned a hide... ok by me..

Here's what caused me to post it...

A pub I regularly frequent, is a fairly Democratic bar...

Working class... follow politics... retired and on a union pension... still working trades people.

Some are rooting for Bernie... some like Bernie but don't believe he can win... so they support Hillary.

Sort of like here.

We have one Libertarian... but we think he's just fucking with us.

On Friday after work, I was down sipping on a beer, and as always... politics came up.

We all gave our thoughts on how the debate went, and who we thought won...

We all chirped in on the Benghazi hearings and how Hillary performed and how any of this might effect the race.

Most analysis was positive for all concerned... and everybody felt pretty good about the Democrat's chances a year from now.

However... and this is my point... and just, to me an observation of interest...

At one point I told them that I had just read that Katy Perry was touring with Bill Clinton in Iowa.

Now I like Bill, I like Hillary, I like Katy... and they've all used their positions for the greater good in differing ways...

But something about that tour nagged at me... and when I told my compadres about it...

Everyone of them shook there heads and smiled...

One even rolled his eyes and said, "And WHO thought this was a good idea ???"

When I asked him to explain... he said, "Shit we are already going to have to re-litigate the entire 90's and 2007/2008... are they really this tone-deaf ???"

I could not care less about a politician's private life, NOMB...

But I'm not convinced the rest of society is there yet.

I agree with my friend... bad... and UNNECESSARY optics.

[leftofcool]

1. And of course you think the worse, naturally.

I suppose it didn't occur to you and your friends that Katy has been a long time supporter of Hillary and Bill Clinton.

[WillyT]

2. I'm Just Telling You The Reactions I Witnessed... These People Vote... For Democrats...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. You know people who are concerned that Bill Clinton is going to have sex with Katy Perry?

eom

[WillyT]

13. Oh Come On... Your Political Analysis Is Usually Better That This...

People have long memories... people, including me, defended the Clinton Administration during that crap.

In tennis... it's called an unforced error.

You don't think the RW is furiously photo-shopping all manner of salacious shit this weekend.

They could have easily announced simply that supporter Katy Perry would be in attendance/performing before the Jefferson/Jackson Dinner in Iowa on behalf of Hillary Clinton.

Inference solved.



And again... everyone of these Democrats shook their heads.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. You think there are a lot of voters who are concerned about the Clenis, really?

I suspect those voters were lost to us any way.

[passiveporcupine]

63. This is ridiculous

This is about Hillary, not Bill. Anyone who is still hanging onto this as an issue and trying to use it to discredit Hillary's campaign in any way, is acting foolish (and Republicans will act foolish, regardless of the issue). And that includes you WillyT. This should not be brought up once, but you had to go and do it twice? What the hell? Are you so in hate with Hillary that you will stoop to anything to try to discredit her?

This is embarrassing. You are trying to do the same thing to Hillary that some of her supporters keep trying to do to Bernie...he can't win, because...she can't win because, so we have to support the other candidate! Bullshit!

I think either of them can and one of them will win.

Just stop this stuff...Please!

[John Poet]

65. I have no doubts that he would LIKE to....

[leftofcool]

11. The they will obviously vote for Hillary since Bernie is not a Democrat.

[rhett o rick]

32. He is by far more of a Democrat than HRC. nm

[riversedge]

73. You planted a nasty dirty lying seed and you know it. Just like Rove would do. shame on you.

....and when I told my compadres about it...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I don't get it...Am I supposed to infer Bill Clinton is going to have sex with Katy Perry ?

If i Am the bartender I am cutting that person off because he's obviously besotted and if gets in his car and hurts or kills somebody the bar has liability.

[99th_Monkey]

4. Now look how Hill's folk are going to run with that one.

just posted in Hillary group

Bill Clinton is cheating with Katy Perry...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110723255

[Agschmid]

9. Yes I posted it.

This is a rediculous OP.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. The Hill folk?

[Scootaloo]

66. Yeah, the Hill Folk

Like Timmet, son of Timmet, and Shagga, son of Dolf. And don't forget Chella, daughter of Cheyk or Ulf. Just Ulf.

[Warren DeMontague]

67. They look like they mean business.

[demmiblue]

29. Both posts are shite.

But you have to give that one a little lee-way being a 'new' Hillary supporter and all... he is just getting his bearings in regard to finding out just how far to push the meta nastiness.

[Agschmid]

40. My post was not nasty.

This is over the top, you said so yourself down thread.

[demmiblue]

47. I think it was.

Going to a protected group and tattle-tailing on another DUer in order to start a meta discussion is unsavory.

Also, do you know the meaning of 'both'? I think I already made my thoughts clear regarding 'both' of your posts.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. He got a hide for that...

If someone can prove to me the jury system isn't tainted I will cut off my nose and eat it on youtube.

[99th_Monkey]

39. I came in late on this one

Just saw those two new "latest threads" and let Willy T know about the other one

I think the entire thing is ridiculous personally, and isn't the type of discussion I even
want to engage in, the more I see about it.

I hope EVERYONE can just stand-down on this, and "not go there" .. it doesn't have
a place on DU imho.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. That was a lame hide....

I wouldn't hide this thread either.It's hilarious.

[Agschmid]

42. Yup.

It would be awesome if I didn't have to see stuff like this every time I logged on.

It's super frustrating.

[NCTraveler]

5. When you told your friends about William Duval....

Was "shiny object" what came to mind?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Can you elaborate?

I missed that...

[NCTraveler]

68. Singer for Alice In Chains.

Sang and took photos with Sanders at the "Rockin'the Bern" event.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. As long as he doesnt go on tour with John Mayer.

THAT WOULD BE THE LAST STRAW, JACK!

[merrily]

10. Jury results, but first...

Anyone who thinks Katy Perry is going to be hot for Bill Clinton must himself or herself have a yooge crush on Bubba. JMO

A Very Unscientific Poll...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251725587

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

So now Katy Perry is cheating with Bill? Hide this shit, and ban this troll.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:34 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Unnecessary optics" is all the poster said.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Its a stupid accusation and I don't believe the story, but can't find a reason to hide it.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Stirring up old, right wing suspicions and rumors about Bill Clinton. Hide it.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I see ulterior motive written all over this post... Still, it is a likely scenario that ugly innuendo will accompany Bill Clinton no matter what he does, so I guess we have to acknowledge that.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[MrMickeysMom]

50. "Hide this troll" ???

Class.... real class

[merrily]

60. Whaddayagonnadoo? This is where DU is now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer

I guess I could alert on the jury results in my inbox, but I won't. I will, however, forward them to anyone who pms me to request them if someone else wants to try alerting on the alerter. I just think DU is in a bad place now.

[sharp_stick]

12. Fucking Pathetic

and I don't mean Clinton or Perry.

Way to keep it going.

[dsc]

14. Forget for a moment that Bill has not been in the news for this kind of behavior for decades

and instead lets look at Katy. Katy is a beautiful, talented, rich woman who is highly unlikely to sleep with a man who is over twice her age. The opinion of your friends of women is pretty freaking low to be honest.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I am far from from a prude but it strikes me as kind of pervy....

Ewwww.

[Old Codger]

24. Really

I agree with you but do you actually think the repugs will follow that logic and not say anything at all???

[leftofcool]

27. They would be stupid if they tried it.

[wyldwolf]

16. I can't actually tell you what I think of your 'friend.'

Or you for bringing this here.

[WillyT]

20. Hey... They Vote... And They Discuss Face To Face...

[leftofcool]

26. I call BS

Not to mention that Katy is not campaigning with Bill. But, you knew that. You think Katy has Stockholm Syndrome?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. This thread is going to be another DUZY

Willy, you are alone on this one.

[Andy823]

22. Yep

Sometimes tying to out do ones "mentor' for recs isn't really a good idea, not when it involves sinking to new lows. That or someone has gone off the deep end and needs a break from DU.

[demmiblue]

19. This is beyond fucking stupid.

I think you need to hang around a better class of people and lay off the knuckle-daggers.

You really should delete this post.

[Agschmid]

28. Thank you for that.

[demmiblue]

30. No comment. n/t

[zappaman]

23. Every time I think you've bottomed out and can't possibly go any lower...

You prove me wrong.
Congrats I guess.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. Do you think one of her opponents should bring it up in the next debate?

nt

[zappaman]

72. That's a great idea!

[George II]

25. What's the point of this?

[msongs]

31. bernie hasnt gotten single payer in vermont after 34 years so the OP is deflecting lol nt

[Agschmid]

34. The discussion of issues sure has gone off the rails lately.

[demmiblue]

38. I think you need to take a refresher course regarding state politics.

Good lawd, this is just getting

[Raine1967]

35. This is just way over the top and really kinda insulting to women.

— and I am gonna leave it there.

[Agschmid]

37. Nailed it.

[workinclasszero]

36. How did this old freeper thread

wind up on DU?

People really diving off the deep end today damn!

[yardwork]

43. Women, African Americans, gays.... Who will you insult next?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. The physically challenged?

nt

[yardwork]

46. True! That group hasn't had an OP accusing them of Stockholm Syndrome. Yet.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. Patience/nt

[artislife]

45. This isn't a good OP, sorry Willy

I don't care about the Clinton marriage, it is theirs alone and how they decide it should be is their business.

Right to privacy, we can't say don't dictate who is in our bed if we cannot extend the same curtesy. We shouldn't even think about it.

She was married to Russell, I think she may have had it with egotistical, opinionated, funny men.

He's good, but must have been hell to be married to...

[WillyT]

51. Didn't Say It Was... I Just Found The Reaction Interesting...

Remember those focus polls after the Dem Debate ???

Also interesting.

Does not indicate a sea change, more than a footnote.

But this is a discussion board... and we discuss the things we witness all the time.

[artislife]

52. Fair enough

I just don't like judging people on their sex lives, it doesn't feel good or right to me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. "A Very Unscientific Poll..."

Where's the poll, bro?

[RandySF]

53. So what are you also implying about Katy Perry?

[WillyT]

55. Y'all Don't Understand How Regular Voters Think I Guess...

As I said upstream... I found the reaction interesting...

I could give a rat's ass about people's personal lives...

Apparently... there are voters that do.

And you guys want them to vote for Dems... no ???

I know I do.

[Agnosticsherbet]

54. I remember al the rumors...

Bill with all the ladies, and Hillary with ladies.

I don' give a flying Padonkydunk.

Republicans are going to say and do ugly things.

We can not control them, so screw them.

[WillyT]

56. I Agree... And As I Said... These Peeps Vote Democratic...

I'm sure they will this time.

It was the (small) yet universal reaction to the story.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. Might as well get this out there

[RandySF]

57. ..

[RandySF]

59. You forgot one thing.

Bill Clinton won two electoral landslides despite his flaws. Voters have had more than 20 years to process this.

[Hydra]

61. I see you got a lot of flak for reporting what you found on the ground

One of my journals from DU2 often gets me similar flak for pointing out what I was hearing at work before the 2010 midterms. We know how that went, but I still have people mad that I dared to believe President Obama and the Dems were not doing the right thing.

This may be a small issue, but issues outside the DU bubble MATTER.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. We should infer from the seminal poster's intrepid reporting that the nation...

We should infer from the seminal poster's intrepid reporting that the nation is consumed with the notion of Bill Clinton having sex with Katy Perry and those that find that inference patently absurd are being myopic, got ya.


Oh, any sentient person knew we were going to get our asses handed to us in 2010 regardless of this member or that member's intrepid reporting.

[Hydra]

64. Most people on the Dem side don't care, including me

But while watching Obama's inauguration live with a Dem group(I'd just been laid off at the time), while the Clintons were walking in, Bill got really friendly with one of the ladies he was greeting, and everyone kinda went O.o, until one of the older ladies just laughed and said "That's just Bill..."

And really? We knew we were screwn in 2010 over the ACA debacle and other issues, yet our party walked on water at the time? Funny...

[left on green only]

69. God, You People Are Being So Provincial

Perhaps they were doing a menage-a-trois. Why not? They probably all deserve each other, anyway. But I couldn't care less. Sex is so over rated.

[olddots]

70. like I hear he is a veterinarian now .