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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:27 PM Oct 2015

At Least 20 Percent Of Americans—Who Could Be Swayed By Democratic Policies. Yet Both Parties Leave

If true... any thoughts on why this would be ???

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How the Democrats Could Win Every Election
The Democrats are getting populist, which is nice. But will it be enough to lure the millions who don’t vote to the polls?

Monica Potts - DailyBeast
1/15/15

The Pew survey asked people questions about their overall financial security, including whether they’d ever received food stamps or Medicaid and whether they had retirement savings, and then about political preferences.

The most financially secure participants were strongly Republican, which is no surprise. The least financially secure were much more likely to prefer Democratic policies. That included the mythical “white working class,” a group liberals have worried about the Democrats losing because of social-justice issues like race and gender relations. Even though white voters overall were more likely to tilt Republican, support for the GOP declines as we move down the income scale, and the poorest whites were more likely to say they liked Democrats better. Will this finally end the myth that the nation is full of poor whites voting against their economic interests?

The least financially secure group was more likely to say that the government should do more to help the needy, which might indicate support for a proposal like Van Hollen’s. But the bigger problem is that people who were the least financially secure were also the least likely to vote. On top of that, few of them ever wrote to their Congressperson or knew much about the current Congress or the current political field.

This is a big group of voters—at least 20 percent of Americans—who could be swayed by Democratic policies. Yet both parties leave their votes on the table.


Why might lower-income and lower-wealth Americans be so disengaged? The Pew survey didn’t make any claims, but noted that the least financially secure surveyed were less ideologically consistent than the better-off participants, so maybe they don’t strongly identify with a party and that keeps them from feeling moved to vote. Indeed, the least well off were more likely to say they had no preference between the Democratic and Republican candidates in the 2014 elections.

It could also be that, until now, the Democratic Party seemed as friendly to the big banks at times as the Republicans. See above: Warren challenging Obama’s Treasury nominee for being a Wall Streeter.

I think this group doesn’t see Democrats doing much to enhance their economic security. Even these voters know the game is rigged against them and don’t seen many politicians of either party rising to be their champion.
Democrats seem ready to cede lots of ground on policies that will hit Americans with the lowest incomes the hardest, like raising the Social Security retirement age and cutting benefits.

The lives of low-income, financially insecure Americans are busy, insecure ones. They are less likely to be well educated and more likely to have a disability that keeps them from working full time. They are more likely to be women who have never been married, which means many are overwhelmed single mothers. The least well-off financially likely includes men who have spent some time in the criminal justice system, which means they are literally disenfranchised or believe they cannot vote even if they live in a state where they could.


More: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/15/how-the-democrats-could-win-every-election.html#


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DJ13

(23,671 posts)
2. There’s an old saying
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:49 PM
Oct 2015

If I wanted a Republican I’d vote for the real thing, not a fake.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
3. I'm working poor white, and I only vote to keep my advocacy going
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:18 PM
Oct 2015

There are 2 last refuges for people when they have no voice- to vote with their feet or to not engage. For those who can't afford to run, not voting when presented with policies you can't support undermines credibility for the ruling class. Nobody takes a ruling party seriously if less than 20% of the population votes...so our party has done a highwire act of promising things will get better while filling their pockets between elections. Just enough to keep people voting and cheering...

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. The democrats are getting populist? The two populist candidates have been marginalized
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:21 PM
Oct 2015

since the campaign started. The Sanders voters and o'malley voters are. The Clinton voters and party big shots are getting more corporate every day.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
5. Well... To Be Fair... Many Of Us Dem Proles Are... The Party Big Wigs ???
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:23 PM
Oct 2015
Not So Much.

But then they never listen to us anyway...


delrem

(9,688 posts)
6. That's just a fact on the ground post citizens united.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:50 AM
Oct 2015

You're fighting for the viability of democracy and it ain't fun watching.

elana i am

(814 posts)
7. i can think of a reason
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:00 AM
Oct 2015
But the bigger problem is that people who were the least financially secure were also the least likely to vote. On top of that, few of them ever wrote to their Congressperson or knew much about the current Congress or the current political field.


us poor folks are too busy trying to make ends meet to deal with keeping track of politics. life sucks when you live paycheck to paycheck. no one wants to add to their misery by following politics as pathetic and depressing as it has become. the only reason i do is because i'm a political junkie. but i'm the only one that i know of.

I think this group doesn’t see Democrats doing much to enhance their economic security. Even these voters know the game is rigged against them and don’t seen many politicians of either party rising to be their champion.


this is why i know sanders is on the right track and bringing in new and lapsed voters with his populist message. it's also why i think the chasm here between factions is huge and getting bigger by the day.

bernie sanders speaks my language. so does elizabeth warren. here's the thing...on april 30th 2015 a spark was lit. it was the day that something better came along, and the disenfranchised, to whom another clinton is offensive, began to have hope again.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
11. Seventy five percent of Americans view our government as corrupt.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:50 PM
Oct 2015

Though if things keep on the way they are I suspect that number will rise to an all-time high.

Policies are meaningless if people don't trust the person espousing those policies.
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