Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:23 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
No more quantum politics
I just can't vote for a Schrodinger's Candidate that holds multiple positions simultaneously until the ballot box is opened.
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28 replies, 3064 views
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Author | Time | Post |
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hootinholler | Oct 2015 | OP |
daleanime | Oct 2015 | #1 | |
azmom | Oct 2015 | #2 | |
lumberjack_jeff | Oct 2015 | #3 | |
cantbeserious | Oct 2015 | #4 | |
mindwalker_i | Oct 2015 | #5 | |
Electric Monk | Oct 2015 | #6 | |
hootinholler | Oct 2015 | #8 | |
hifiguy | Oct 2015 | #11 | |
mindwalker_i | Oct 2015 | #13 | |
hifiguy | Oct 2015 | #17 | |
mindwalker_i | Oct 2015 | #26 | |
hootinholler | Oct 2015 | #19 | |
mindwalker_i | Oct 2015 | #24 | |
hootinholler | Oct 2015 | #7 | |
mindwalker_i | Oct 2015 | #14 | |
hifiguy | Oct 2015 | #18 | |
mindwalker_i | Oct 2015 | #25 | |
BeanMusical | Oct 2015 | #9 | |
hifiguy | Oct 2015 | #16 | |
hifiguy | Oct 2015 | #10 | |
hootinholler | Oct 2015 | #12 | |
Motown_Johnny | Oct 2015 | #15 | |
hootinholler | Oct 2015 | #20 | |
LastLiberal in PalmSprings | Oct 2015 | #22 | |
Motown_Johnny | Oct 2015 | #23 | |
gregcrawford | Oct 2015 | #21 | |
Scootaloo | Oct 2015 | #27 | |
mhatrw | Oct 2015 | #28 |
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:28 PM
daleanime (17,796 posts)
1. ........
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:28 PM
azmom (5,208 posts)
2. I need to share this. Well done.
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:32 PM
lumberjack_jeff (33,224 posts)
3. The Clinton Uncertainty Principle. Nice! n/t
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:49 PM
cantbeserious (13,039 posts)
4. HRC - The Quantum Candidate - She Is Till She Is Not
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:03 PM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
5. The real problem is her entanglement with Big Finance
She supports the wave function that's transferring money to those who already have it.
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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #5)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:10 PM
Electric Monk (13,869 posts)
6. Spooky action at a distance has been confirmed as a real phenomenon
Response to Electric Monk (Reply #6)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:15 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
8. Eventually, we should be able to do faster than light communications with the phenomena n/t
Response to hootinholler (Reply #8)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:42 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
11. Use the subspace frequencies, Mister Worf!
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Response to hootinholler (Reply #8)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:04 PM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
13. I'm working on that
It looks like the universe is conspiring to keep us from using entanglement to transmit information, although I, perhaps foolishly, hope to find a way around it.
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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #13)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:08 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
17. Why not?
The greatest scientific discoveries have always been made by solitary people thinking deeply about something for a long time and having a startling, profound insight: Newton, Maxwell, Einstein, Bohr, deBroglie, Heisenberg, Dirac....
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Response to hifiguy (Reply #17)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:27 PM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
26. For the record, they outclass me by far
I'm just some dude with a BBO, a couple of detectors, and a certain level of insanity.
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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #13)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:09 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
19. Seriously???
Mad props for that!
What's the major malfunction? As an engineering type it seem like it should work provided the entanglement isn't, for lack of a better term, consumed. |
Response to hootinholler (Reply #19)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:26 PM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
24. Yeah, the idea is to create entangled pair and send one stream through a double-slit
That should create an interference pattern. If, however, the other stream with the entangled pairs is measured in such a way as to "preserve the momentum information," it's akin to observing which slit the initial photons went through and destroys the interference. Birgit Dopfer did this in 1998.
A wrinkle in the experiment is that she useda coincidence detector (basically an AND gate) to filter out all the non-entangled photons. A guy, Dr. John Cramer, was working on developing a system that didn't need that coincidence detector, and what he found was that there is a kind of anti-signal which fills in the spaces in between the interference fringes and masks out the signal. I'm quite confused by this: how does it exactly mask it out, and if the coincidence detector filters the anti-signal out, how is it that the anti-signal responds to the measurement on the other stream? My conclusion was that I just had to build the damn thing and find out. It seems to me like there should be some way around this problem, and I wonder whether there's some sort of pattern between entangled photons vs. non-entangled, anti-signal photons. Maybe there's a timing relationship? It seems highly likely that Cramer explored this fully, but I just can't let it go. Maybe it would be possible to train a neural network to detect some sort of difference that us humans don't otherwise see. |
Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #5)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:11 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
7. Apparent action at a distance
Yet, the appearance of a particle stream under observation is uncanny.
Props for following the principle postulation posted. |
Response to hootinholler (Reply #7)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:05 PM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
14. I always have to jump into discussions involving quantum mechanics :)
Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #14)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:09 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
18. At least it is highly probable that you do.
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Response to hifiguy (Reply #18)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:26 PM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
25. Good point :)
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:14 PM
BeanMusical (4,389 posts)
9. Three quarks for Muster Mark!
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Response to BeanMusical (Reply #9)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:06 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
16. Professor Murray Gell-Mann
appreciates this reference, along with a few of us science nerds on DU.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:40 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
10. That is truly excellent, hoot!
Brainiest joke/truth on DU in quite a while. ![]() |
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:06 PM
Motown_Johnny (22,308 posts)
15. I thought we settled on Heisenberg?
Maybe it was just me.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657234#post96 ^repost^ Star Member arcane1 (33,667 posts) Response to Kokonoe (Reply #93)Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:35 PM 96. Schrodinger's Candidate? http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657234#post152 ^repost^ Motown_Johnny (18,825 posts) Response to arcane1 (Reply #96)Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:20 PM 152. Heisenberg's maybe. No thing (that Hillary has stated) has a definite position, a definite trajectory, or a definite momentum. |
Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #15)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:12 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
20. But, this has nothing to do with meth
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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #15)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:15 PM
LastLiberal in PalmSprings (12,159 posts)
22. I thought it was Heidelberg
![]() “Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.” -- W.C. Fields |
Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #22)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:18 PM
Motown_Johnny (22,308 posts)
23. This could easily lead to one hell of a sub-thread!
"Once, during Prohibition, I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water." -- W.C. Fields |
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:13 PM
gregcrawford (2,382 posts)
21. WAit a minute!
Why is this ballot box full of cat hair?
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:29 PM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
27. "Schrodinger's Candidate" - consider this stolen
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 03:55 PM
mhatrw (10,786 posts)
28. but all of those superpac $ allow corporations to commit
spooky actions at a distance
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