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Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Will Announce SUPPORT For REMOVING Marijuana from List of Most Dangerous Drugs
Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders will announce his support Wednesday for removing marijuana from a list of the most dangerous drugs outlawed by the federal government a move that would free states to legalize it without impediments from Washington.The self-described democratic socialist senator from Vermont plans to share his proposal during a town hall meeting with college students that will be broadcast on the Internet across the country from George Mason University in Fairfax, Va.
No other presidential candidate has called for marijuana to be removed from the so-called Schedule 1 of controlled substances regulated by the Drug Enforcement Administration. Longshot Democratic hopeful Martin OMalley has said hed put marijuana on Schedule 2, a less strict designation. The partys frontrunner, Hillary Rodham Clinton, has repeatedly said she wants to see how legalization experiments in Colorado, Washington and other states play out before committing to any changes at the federal level
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-will-propose-nixing-marijuana-from-federal-list-of-dangerous-drugs/2015/10/28/be8c3adc-7da2-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html
pinebox
(5,761 posts)As a Coloradan, I fully support Bernie doing this. I don't even use the stuff nor have I ever tried it but the fact that alcohol kills a lot more people and is legal, well that says it all. My state has seen its revenue skyrocket.
Segami
(14,923 posts)The incareration business will definitely be down considerably.......then again, they'll figure out other ways to incarcerate citizens on spurious charges.
azmom
(5,208 posts)montanacowboy
(6,714 posts)Always ahead of his time
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Wow!
I could be mistaken, but I think that is the same category that Heroin is in.
Substances in this schedule have no currently accepted medical use in the United States, a lack of accepted safety for use under medical supervision, and a high potential for abuse.
Some examples of substances listed in Schedule I are: heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), peyote, methaqualone, and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine ("Ecstasy"
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/index.html
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Lol!... Mr PotatoChip's 93 year old aunt uses it medicinally. She's no 'addict'. How ridiculous!
Thanks for the info.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)5000 years is simply not enough
hibbing
(10,598 posts)How absolutely insane is that?
Peace
7962
(11,841 posts)What a load of nonsense to equate those two.
Never heard of anyone stealing to buy pot
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)It's a political body, not a scientific or medical one.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)dangerous by the cops and such. But it was never scientifically tested as such. That is why it is good that Bernie is asking for this.
Law enforcement insisted that MJ was the gateway drug and led to the use of other drugs. I suspect that many of us on DU know better. All it ever led me to do was go to sleep.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)they just don't want to lose their meal ticket.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)so many of them for as crime continues to go down even with this absolute bullshit padding their fake ass numbers and replace all the revenue from stealing good people's property and squeezing them for fines.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)In a column for The Fix, Maia Szalavitz reminds us that Harry Anslinger, the father of the war on weed, fully embraced racism as a tool to demonize marijuana. As the first commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, a predecessor to the Drug Enforcement Administration, Anslinger institutionalized his belief that pot's "effect on the degenerate races" made its prohibition a top priority. Here are just a few of his most famous (and most racist) quotes:"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."
Between Anslinger's ruminations on the need to keep marijuana away from minorities -- especially the entertainers! -- were countless other fabrications about the health effects of pot. It was "more dangerous than heroin or cocaine" and "leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing,'' he claimed.

jwirr
(39,215 posts)that MJ was the only drug that they use this way. Out here the white kids sell it to our kids and the white cop used to chase the Native kids. Now we have our own police force and MJ is the last thing they worry about.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)claim they continue to make. In fact, If they want to get REAL serious about gateway drugs, they should start with doctors and big Pharma who 'push' addictive pharmaceuticals onto a sleeping public.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)In the late 60's/early 70's, Nixon commissioned a study on the affects of cannabis. He was expecting a doom-and-gloom outcome but the opposite happened. The study basically said it's virtually harmless. Nixon didn't like the results, ignored the study that HE commissioned. He then talked Congress in allowing the president to decide what is Schedule I, II, III, etc., and Nixon is the one that categorized it as a Schedule I narcotic. It's been that way ever since. SO when someone tells you "Obama (or any president) doesn't have the power to reschedule cannabis" feel free to call bullshit because he does.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You can thank the drug war and its apologists.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)So rare and not that common in politicians.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I'm not a user, like some others, but do believe it has benefits for those that need it for pain control (better than that damned addictive oxycodone).
The current Federal regulations are absurd and need a huge overhaul.
Uncle Joe
(65,140 posts)Thanks for the thread, Segami.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)K/R
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)... which of course does not help in American politics.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Sanders looks better everyday!
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)I don't think alcohol is listed because it's a controlled legal substance (like tobacco), but one of the reasons substances are listed as schedule I is because of a high potential for abuse.
Schedule I include LSD, heroin, peyote, marijuana, ecstasy etc.
Schedule II includes oxycodone and Percocet, etc.
I'm lucky enough to not need any pain medication beyond ibuprofen so I try not to judge people that do need them, but it seems to me that even prescription opioids carry more risk of addiction than marijuana or LSD (those two and psilocybin are the only schedule I drugs I am 'familiar' with).
I think this is a good issue for Bernie to come out for. A slim majority of the US is for legalization already, moving it out of schedule I makes sense.

Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)Time to lose the reefer madness
snort
(2,334 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)mountain grammy
(29,035 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)you can watch a livestream of Bernie addressing college students. I'm pretty sure this issue will come up.
https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/student-multi-signup-form
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)
devils weed for getting high to lower inhibitions to performing criminal acts. We're about to see a lot of eggs in frying pans and scrambled zombie brain propagandamercials.
Behold Hillary's unequivocating response as she firmly replies "NO." to the question of "should the devil's weed be legalized?" while we will be implored to "think of the children."
hibbing
(10,598 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)I'm ready for the right of center, authoritarian Democrats. I don't need their nanny state.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Walking the Progressive walk, not just talking the Progressive talk...
C Moon
(13,643 posts)Go Bernie!!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Yet another thing proposed by Sanders that goes absolutely nowhere!
jfern
(5,204 posts)Teagan
(62 posts)Progressive issues won in 2014. DLC candidates didn't.
Guess the voter's tired of the same old tired status quo.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)It won't even get a committee hearing.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)Schedule 2 is not the same thing.
Has Sanders said how he wants it to be classified, if it's not on 1?
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Does Hillary get out in front on any issue? Does she always lead from behind?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)instead of a wishy washy proposal to "study it" for twenty more years.
Punx
(474 posts)Had to control those dammed hippies and anti-war protesters. And as it turns out, a bonus, African Americans.
That should tell you all you need to know about Schedule 1.
http://www.alternet.org/story/12666/once-secret_%22nixon_tapes%22_show_why_the_u.s._outlawed_pot
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Progress, yes, but we need to be constantly moving forward. They aren't taking a break in trying to get us to move backwards.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Beausoir
(7,540 posts)Face facts....nobody give a hoot about pot these days.
Medical marijuana is making some inroads for the people who really need it.
But Bernie the Socialist coming out in favor of pot is not going to generate any surprise or excitement.
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)The wave of cannabis is headed East from the left coast and nothing will stop it. The old authoritarians have been dying off and the survivors can only dip into the canned lies fed to them for decades.
The growers are outmaneuvering the slow kkkops and their political and religious allies. The young people are hip to their jingo. Thank you Bernie for the courage to speak the truth about this horrific crime committed on our own citizens.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Just like taking care of our veterans, just like taking care of our own, just like ending corporate avarice and control of our legislature. Just like any position our media can spin to seem to appear far left when in reality it is Anywhere, USA.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Yup......
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)