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H.A. Goodman: "Polling Trajectory Shows Bernie Sanders Defeating Hillary Clinton and Winning (Original Post) Metric System Oct 2015 OP
I read it earlier--Goodman is pathologically obsessed with Hillary--and delusional. riversedge Oct 2015 #1
If you have no idea what a "trajectory" is and heart online polls, I can see the argument. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #2
but he is an authentic progressive restorefreedom Oct 2015 #8
You mean the Noble Peace Prize winner who ended two wars and started none and did a peace Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #9
tell that to the people dying in iraq and syria restorefreedom Oct 2015 #10
Since Obama will win a second Peace Prize next October, I would polish the first one so they match. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #11
I know Sanders, he's a friend of mine, and you're right Obama is no Bernie Sanders. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #12
Obama was an inspirational campaigner redstateblues Oct 2015 #14
"Old fashioned, traditional polls"? Anyone preferring cyber-polls over real ones is not anyone I Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #15
BS is no BHO x 1000 workinclasszero Oct 2015 #17
"Old fashioned, traditional polls" workinclasszero Oct 2015 #18
There will never be another Barack Obama youceyec Oct 2015 #3
As far as Goodman goes, the stupid... MohRokTah Oct 2015 #4
Ohhhhhh, snap. Codeine Oct 2015 #16
ouch workinclasszero Oct 2015 #20
.. mcar Oct 2015 #5
Whatever gets 'em through the night alcibiades_mystery Oct 2015 #6
Laughing! leftofcool Oct 2015 #7
From one of the comments: Number23 Oct 2015 #13
H.A. H.A. Goodone OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #19
Reminds me of this XKCD... Recursion Oct 2015 #21

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. If you have no idea what a "trajectory" is and heart online polls, I can see the argument.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 06:59 PM
Oct 2015

I know President Obama, President Obama is a friend of mine, and Sanders is no Obama.

Predictable that the last thing Sanders fans wood pin their fading hopes on is the "Obama trajectory", hoping Sanders is the transformational figure Obama was.....he is not.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. You mean the Noble Peace Prize winner who ended two wars and started none and did a peace
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:15 PM
Oct 2015

deal with Iran and refused to intervene in Libya and Syria or Ukraine, and now has jump started more peace talks for Syria.....because my world is evidence based, and not fantastical.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
10. tell that to the people dying in iraq and syria
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:17 PM
Oct 2015

not to mention the hospital in afghanistan

their dead bodies are pretty good evidence that his "peace" prize might be needing a little silver polishing, cuz its fading.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. I know Sanders, he's a friend of mine, and you're right Obama is no Bernie Sanders.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:21 PM
Oct 2015

In fact Sanders is ahead of where Obama was at this point. I remember, I was a supporter. I get a beautiful sense of deja vu when I see all the exact same negative talking points aimed at Sanders that were aimed at Obama. Back then we never let that influence our enthusiasm and just kept on working to get our candidate elected.

The Hillary campaign went negative, then, as they have now, very early on. That turned a lot of people off.

Meantime Obama resisted, just like Bernie, going negative and tried to stay on the issues.

I feel like I've been transported back seven years.

BECAUSE of all the negative campaigning by Hillary, I was able to persuade my FIL, who hated all that noise, to switch to Obama who seemed a lot more positive.

I'm sure that was repeated tens of thousands of times.

The old fashioned Traditional Polls had Hillary way ahead of Obama also at this point.

I'm very confident that like Obama, Bernie will win.

Hillary is just bad on the issues and going negative makes people wonder why she doesn't just talk about the issues. Makes it easy for me when working on getting voters to switch to Bernie. I use some that garbage that is posted here, eg. People do not like that.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
14. Obama was an inspirational campaigner
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:48 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie is an angry campaigner- He has hit his ceiling. He will win the Online/DU polls. That will give you some comfort hopefully.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
15. "Old fashioned, traditional polls"? Anyone preferring cyber-polls over real ones is not anyone I
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 08:09 PM
Oct 2015

would take seriously, but then I love science and have a sound understanding of random sampling under controlled parameters....a lot of folk do not, I get that.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. "Old fashioned, traditional polls"
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 08:27 PM
Oct 2015

Really?

Math and statistics are old fashioned I guess, so is the theory of gravity.

Is Bernie going to defy that next?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
13. From one of the comments:
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:23 PM
Oct 2015

"Bernie is wiping the floor with Hillary despite not having support from the establishment, superpacs, or the media."

How do people come up with this kind of stuff? I'm serious. In an article that shows that Hillary has solidified her already strong support from the voters, this person also notes that the "establishment, super pacs or the media" are also allegedly in Hillary's corner.

So... how or where is Bernie "wiping the floor" with Hillary?? According to this person, every single entity that matters is supporting her! How do people look at things and reach these kinds of conclusions?? And we've been seeing this kind of garbage everywhere.

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