2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumH.A. Goodman: "Polling Trajectory Shows Bernie Sanders Defeating Hillary Clinton and Winning
the Democratic Nomination"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/polling-trajectory-shows-bernie-sanders-defeating-hillary-clinton_b_8406282.html
Read it and weep!
Or laugh.
riversedge
(70,192 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)I know President Obama, President Obama is a friend of mine, and Sanders is no Obama.
Predictable that the last thing Sanders fans wood pin their fading hopes on is the "Obama trajectory", hoping Sanders is the transformational figure Obama was.....he is not.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)unlike pro war pro TPP Obama.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)deal with Iran and refused to intervene in Libya and Syria or Ukraine, and now has jump started more peace talks for Syria.....because my world is evidence based, and not fantastical.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)not to mention the hospital in afghanistan
their dead bodies are pretty good evidence that his "peace" prize might be needing a little silver polishing, cuz its fading.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)In fact Sanders is ahead of where Obama was at this point. I remember, I was a supporter. I get a beautiful sense of deja vu when I see all the exact same negative talking points aimed at Sanders that were aimed at Obama. Back then we never let that influence our enthusiasm and just kept on working to get our candidate elected.
The Hillary campaign went negative, then, as they have now, very early on. That turned a lot of people off.
Meantime Obama resisted, just like Bernie, going negative and tried to stay on the issues.
I feel like I've been transported back seven years.
BECAUSE of all the negative campaigning by Hillary, I was able to persuade my FIL, who hated all that noise, to switch to Obama who seemed a lot more positive.
I'm sure that was repeated tens of thousands of times.
The old fashioned Traditional Polls had Hillary way ahead of Obama also at this point.
I'm very confident that like Obama, Bernie will win.
Hillary is just bad on the issues and going negative makes people wonder why she doesn't just talk about the issues. Makes it easy for me when working on getting voters to switch to Bernie. I use some that garbage that is posted here, eg. People do not like that.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Bernie is an angry campaigner- He has hit his ceiling. He will win the Online/DU polls. That will give you some comfort hopefully.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)would take seriously, but then I love science and have a sound understanding of random sampling under controlled parameters....a lot of folk do not, I get that.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Not even close!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Really?
Math and statistics are old fashioned I guess, so is the theory of gravity.
Is Bernie going to defy that next?
youceyec
(394 posts)Sorry. :/
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)it Berns.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)mcar
(42,302 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)"Bernie is wiping the floor with Hillary despite not having support from the establishment, superpacs, or the media."
How do people come up with this kind of stuff? I'm serious. In an article that shows that Hillary has solidified her already strong support from the voters, this person also notes that the "establishment, super pacs or the media" are also allegedly in Hillary's corner.
So... how or where is Bernie "wiping the floor" with Hillary?? According to this person, every single entity that matters is supporting her! How do people look at things and reach these kinds of conclusions?? And we've been seeing this kind of garbage everywhere.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)I love this guy!