2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBrookings Institute Elaine Kamarck Thinks Clinton Is Very Much A THIRD-WAY Type Politician.

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The clearest and most recent example of Clinton moving leftward has been her position on the Trans-Pacific Partnership. She previously characterized the trade deal as the gold standard in free, transparent, and fair trade before she ultimately came out against it. Nobody ever lost an election because theyve gone against trade, said William Daley, former Commerce secretary under Bill Clinton and Barack Obamas former chief of staff, at the event. He noted that Third Way supports the TPP. But Cowan pointed out that while he and the organization backed the TPP, Clintons newfound opposition to the 12-nation agreement was not crossing a line. He said that in 2008, both Obama and Clinton opposed trade agreements. If she called for a $15 trillion single-payer system, if she called for a $15 minimum wage, those are the kinds of things where you would be crossing the line, Cowan said.
Daley said Clinton would govern as a moderate. If she wants to pass anything, yeah, definitely, because, I think she is a doer, Daley told National Journal. You cant govern as president just by Eat it. Elaine Kamarck, one of the cofounders of the New Democrats and a senior fellow of governance studies at the Brookings Institution, said she thinks Clinton is very much a Third-Way-type politician. Shes very cognizant of not letting your politics cut off whats going to be a governing agenda, Kamarck said. And so thats what shes about, and shes very concerned about government. Cowan said that in recent election cycles, Democrats have tried running on populist themes, arguing that the deck is stacked against the middle class and the political system is riggeda theme repeated by progressive favorite Elizabeth Warren, who many on the Left wanted to run for president.
In late 2013, Third Way clashed with Warren and other populist progressives, writing an op-ed calling plans to expand Social Security exhibit A of populist political and economic fantasy. While Clinton is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, its not clear how she would campaign as the nominee or how she would govern as president. Third Way Democrats hope she puts the populist rhetoric she has adopted of late to the side and governs, if elected, from the middle. Progressives want the oppositeto see her populist positions manifest themselves in a governing agenda.
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/91612/moderate-democrats-confident-clinton-would-govern-from-middle
Segami
(14,923 posts)nothing more than Kabuki Theater.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Meanwhile, Republicans jumped in, referring to everything that is not 100% RW as "liberal," or even "socialist."
Political terms no longer have any meaning at all. See Orwell's 1984.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)just to run.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... throwing us a few bones on the social justice front. She ought to just fess up that she's a moderate Republican and quit trying to move the Democratic Party even further right.
Bernie's "party crashing" is very welcome in this quarter. His policies reflect what our party used to be before all the damned "triangulation".
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)It looks to me like Moneyed Interests' infiltration, takeover, & control of both parties is all but complete.
This really does feel like our last slim hope of stopping it. I'm so tired of Democrats running as Democrats & then acting as repubs once elected.
We need more than just campaign rhetoric.

Segami
(14,923 posts)The worry of the centrists: Left-wing economic populism, said Jon Cowan, the president of the Third Way, a Democratic public policy organization, at a briefing where the group laid out a manifesto a menu of ideas for Democrats to consider including a regional minimum wage boost, not the national increase embraced by President Barack Obama on down...
_ Economic populism, Daley said, dwells too much on either to blame, make somebody a victim, blame somebody whos been successful or blame business, or blame the government.
There should be more things for Democrats to rally around than just be against the 1 percent. Its a piece of but not the whole political/governmental puzzle that anyone who has to govern needs to solve.
New Democrat Movement Founder Elaine Kamarck, the godmother of Democratic centrism, also at the briefing noted, Lets face it. The people we purport to be for dont particularly like us. And we need to ask the question why . . . The traditional populist or left-wing responses of what to do about the economy, people know in their heart of hearts, they just dont work....
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So they keep (conning) reminding us...........
frylock
(34,825 posts)of that 30%, maybe 10% give a shit that Sanders "crashed the party."
artislife
(9,497 posts)Are you more interested in the party
Or what the party represents on issues?
Because those are two very different things.