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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:50 AM Oct 2015

Brookings Institute Elaine Kamar­ck Thinks Clin­ton Is Very Much A THIRD-WAY Type Politi­cian.


"...Leaders of centrist think tank THIRD WAY say they hope she won’t make the same mistake Mitt Romney did..."




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The clearest and most re­cent ex­ample of Clin­ton mov­ing left­ward has been her po­s­i­tion on the Trans-Pa­cific Part­ner­ship. She pre­vi­ously char­ac­ter­ized the trade deal as the “gold stand­ard” in free, trans­par­ent, and fair trade be­fore she ul­ti­mately came out against it. “Nobody ever lost an elec­tion be­cause they’ve gone against trade,” said Wil­li­am Da­ley, former Com­merce sec­ret­ary un­der Bill Clin­ton and Barack Obama’s former chief of staff, at the event. He noted that Third Way sup­ports the TPP. But Cow­an poin­ted out that while he and the or­gan­iz­a­tion backed the TPP, Clin­ton’s new­found op­pos­i­tion to the 12-na­tion agree­ment was not cross­ing a line. He said that in 2008, both Obama and Clin­ton op­posed trade agree­ments. “If she called for a $15 tril­lion single-pay­er sys­tem, if she called for a $15 min­im­um wage, those are the kinds of things where you would be cross­ing the line,” Cow­an said.


Da­ley said Clin­ton would gov­ern as a mod­er­ate. “If she wants to pass any­thing, yeah, def­in­itely, be­cause, I think she is a doer,” Da­ley told Na­tion­al Journ­al. “You can’t gov­ern as pres­id­ent just by ‘Eat it.’” Elaine Kamar­ck, one of the cofounders of the New Demo­crats and a seni­or fel­low of gov­ernance stud­ies at the Brook­ings In­sti­tu­tion, said she thinks Clin­ton is very much a Third-Way-type politi­cian. “She’s very cog­niz­ant of not let­ting your polit­ics cut off what’s go­ing to be a gov­ern­ing agenda,” Kamar­ck said. “And so that’s what she’s about, and she’s very con­cerned about gov­ern­ment.” Cow­an said that in re­cent elec­tion cycles, Demo­crats have tried run­ning on pop­u­list themes, ar­guing that the deck is stacked against the middle class and the polit­ic­al sys­tem is “rigged”—a theme re­peated by pro­gress­ive fa­vor­ite Eliza­beth War­ren, who many on the Left wanted to run for pres­id­ent.


In late 2013, Third Way clashed with War­ren and oth­er pop­u­list pro­gress­ives, writ­ing an op-ed call­ing plans to ex­pand So­cial Se­cur­ity “ex­hib­it A of pop­u­list polit­ic­al and eco­nom­ic fantasy.” While Clin­ton is the front-run­ner for the Demo­crat­ic nom­in­a­tion, it’s not clear how she would cam­paign as the nom­in­ee or how she would gov­ern as pres­id­ent. Third Way Demo­crats hope she puts the pop­u­list rhet­or­ic she has ad­op­ted of late to the side and gov­erns, if elec­ted, from the middle. Pro­gress­ives want the op­pos­ite—to see her pop­u­list po­s­i­tions mani­fest them­selves in a gov­ern­ing agenda.


cont'

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/91612/moderate-democrats-confident-clinton-would-govern-from-middle
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Segami

(14,923 posts)
1. Hillary Clinton claiming to be 'progressive' is...
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 03:03 AM
Oct 2015

nothing more than Kabuki Theater.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. 3rd way deliberately discredited "liberal," then deliberately muddled the meaning of "progressive."
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 03:11 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710158.

Meanwhile, Republicans jumped in, referring to everything that is not 100% RW as "liberal," or even "socialist."

Political terms no longer have any meaning at all. See Orwell's 1984.



 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
6. No, i don't think you really want that. But Sanders is running as Democrat who crashed the party
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:48 AM
Oct 2015

just to run.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. Yeah, I do. She touts Republican-like policies on Wall Street, military, trade, etc, while ...
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:53 AM
Oct 2015

... throwing us a few bones on the social justice front. She ought to just fess up that she's a moderate Republican and quit trying to move the Democratic Party even further right.

Bernie's "party crashing" is very welcome in this quarter. His policies reflect what our party used to be before all the damned "triangulation".

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
8. + a gazillion.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 06:11 AM
Oct 2015

It looks to me like Moneyed Interests' infiltration, takeover, & control of both parties is all but complete.

This really does feel like our last slim hope of stopping it. I'm so tired of Democrats running as Democrats & then acting as repubs once elected.

We need more than just campaign rhetoric.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
9. "..William Daley and other influential centrist Democrats..
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:00 PM
Oct 2015
"....sent a strong warning Wednesday to Hillary Clinton, who is tilting to the left — at least in her rhetoric — as rival Bernie Sanders makes inroads with the party’s restless progressive wing.

The worry of the centrists: “Left-wing economic populism,” said Jon Cowan, the president of the Third Way, a Democratic public policy organization, at a briefing where the group laid out a manifesto — a menu of ideas for Democrats to consider — including a regional minimum wage boost, not the national increase embraced by President Barack Obama on down...

_ “Economic populism,” Daley said, dwells too much on “either to blame, make somebody a victim, blame somebody who’s been successful or blame business, or blame the government.”

There should be more things for Democrats to rally around than just be against the 1 percent. It’s a piece of but not the whole political/governmental puzzle that anyone who has to govern needs to solve.

New Democrat Movement Founder Elaine Kamarck, the godmother of Democratic centrism, also at the briefing noted, “Lets face it. The people we purport to be for don’t particularly like us. And we need to ask the question why . . . The traditional populist or left-wing responses of what to do about the economy, people know in their heart of hearts, they just don’t work....”

"



So they keep (conning) reminding us...........

frylock

(34,825 posts)
10. 30% of registered voters are Democrats..
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:42 PM
Oct 2015

of that 30%, maybe 10% give a shit that Sanders "crashed the party."

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
11. Honest question
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:45 PM
Oct 2015

Are you more interested in the party

Or what the party represents on issues?


Because those are two very different things.

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