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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 08:34 PM Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton Email Shows She Was Eyeing A Second Presidential Run From Day One At The State Dept.

Say what you will about Hillary Clinton's trustworthiness and likability, but you can't deny that she's ambitious. In the State Department's release of 7,000 new pages from the 2016 candidate's private server on Friday, one specific email showed Hillary Clinton had been eyeing a presidential run since her first few weeks as Secretary of State in the Obama administration. Sent by former Bill Clinton adviser and family friend Sidney Blumenthal, the message seemed to indicate that Clinton and her aides were keeping close tabs on her favorability numbers from the start, in order to suss out a second potential presidential run in 2016.

"In case your daily briefing doesn't include it, Bill Schneider tells me that the CNN poll shows you at 71 percent favorability, seven points above Obama at 64 (higher than any recent president at this point)," wrote Blumenthal in a message titled "FYI..." from March 25, 2009, pointing to the fact that Clinton's image among Republicans in particular was stronger as well. "You've achieved supra-political status, not anti-political or apolitical (they know who you are) ... and recent polls show that the Democrats are likely to pick up three Senate seats in 2010 ...." Blumenthal added that the two factors combined would present a "unique opening" later on.




Whether or not Clinton herself intended to test the presidential waters at that point was unclear — but the revelation that nine weeks after being sworn in as Secretary, Clinton was already being tipped off about her rising poll numbers in comparison with the newly elected Obama couldn't be dismissed. From the very beginning, Clinton was already being vetted for the presidency.


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http://www.bustle.com/articles/120778-hillary-clinton-email-shows-she-was-eyeing-a-second-presidential-run-from-day-one-at-the
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Hillary Clinton Email Shows She Was Eyeing A Second Presidential Run From Day One At The State Dept. (Original Post) Segami Oct 2015 OP
Correction: Email TO Clinton. 3 and a half years before the next election. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #1
Ya know. Maybe, just maybe BootinUp Oct 2015 #2
Not my head,.. Segami Oct 2015 #6
Oh yes - she worries about 840high Oct 2015 #31
HA HA. More silly made up speculation that a devote Sanders fan falls for. ha ha. riversedge Oct 2015 #3
Didn't we all know when she lost to Obama Chemisse Oct 2015 #4
Indeed. There is no second run, just the run. L. Coyote Oct 2015 #9
Was there ever any doubt about Hill's insatiable WH aspirations? No big surprise here. -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #5
True davidpdx Oct 2015 #36
Oh the horror Nonhlanhla Oct 2015 #7
+1 BootinUp Oct 2015 #8
There Were Two Future Presidents on Stage During 2008 Democratis Debates Stallion Oct 2015 #10
Yes but.... Segami Oct 2015 #11
It depends what "is" is. nt artislife Oct 2015 #12
Suuuuuuure it does.... Segami Oct 2015 #13
Imagine if she were a character on Scandal artislife Oct 2015 #14
My bad.... Segami Oct 2015 #15
Good, you are much better off artislife Oct 2015 #18
Heh,... Segami Oct 2015 #19
Uh oh. artislife Oct 2015 #26
I watch that as well davidpdx Oct 2015 #37
I like Charlie...there I said it...nt artislife Oct 2015 #41
I hang my head and admit Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #46
Maybe she evolved, and then evolved again.. frylock Oct 2015 #21
I'm sorry but this isn't a big deal. JRLeft Oct 2015 #16
This is just shocking. It disqualifies her from ever running redstateblues Oct 2015 #27
Ohh the drama. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #17
Well, there's a video upthread, if that counts. frylock Oct 2015 #22
Warren said she wasn't running multiple different ways... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #23
Ummmm... hunh? frylock Oct 2015 #25
Hillary has a habit of saying the (politically) correct thing to say (at the right time) JonLeibowitz Oct 2015 #30
There is nothing confusing about this. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #34
I'm certain all the endorsements we're seeing today were secured back then as well. frylock Oct 2015 #20
Some major fail there jfern Oct 2015 #24
I thought it wasn't permitted to do campaign stuff whilst Secretary of State Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #28
No rules for Hillary. 840high Oct 2015 #32
she wants to be president in the worst way olddots Oct 2015 #29
Why shouldn't she be the first female President. juajen Oct 2015 #33
She has a horrible record of supporting War & Wall Street. I don't care how "smart" or "experienced" reformist2 Oct 2015 #39
It would've been surprising if she wasn't. joshcryer Oct 2015 #35
Kick !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #38
So what. Skidmore Oct 2015 #40
BREAK THAT GLASS CEILING, GIRL! JaneyVee Oct 2015 #42
You know THAT'S right ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #44
First, that email was RECEIVED by Clinton. MineralMan Oct 2015 #43
You're a century and a half too late okasha Oct 2015 #45
So? Beacool Nov 2015 #47

BootinUp

(47,136 posts)
2. Ya know. Maybe, just maybe
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 08:39 PM
Oct 2015

she thought she could do some good for ordinary people. Don't let your head explode thinking about that.

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
4. Didn't we all know when she lost to Obama
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 08:43 PM
Oct 2015

That she would likely come back for another try? I don't know who would be surprised by this.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
36. True
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:36 AM
Oct 2015

No one should be surprised she was looking at doing that. I wouldn't put it past her to have challenged Obama in 2012 if she thought the opportunity was there (obviously it wasn't).

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
10. There Were Two Future Presidents on Stage During 2008 Democratis Debates
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:13 PM
Oct 2015

I predicted she'd win in 2016 the day after Obama was elected. Shocking

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
11. Yes but....
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:14 PM
Oct 2015



BOLD FACE LIE!...........2:10 video

Emails show that "...Hillary Clinton had been eyeing a presidential run since her first few weeks as Secretary of State in the Obama administration..."


Hillary Clinton is throwing more cold water on rumors of a 2016 presidential campaign, telling ABC's Barbara Walters that she doesn't "believe" she will run for the country's top office again.

"I've said I really don't believe that that’s something I will do again," Clinton said of a presidential bid. "I am so grateful I had the experience of doing it before. I think there are lots of ways to serve, so I'll continue to serve."



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/hillary-clinton-2016_n_2286173.html
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
13. Suuuuuuure it does....
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:28 PM
Oct 2015

She was scheming from the get go in 2009 and just after she departs in 2012, she tells Bwahbwah Walters that;

"....I've said I really don't believe that that’s something I will do again..."



 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
14. Imagine if she were a character on Scandal
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:38 PM
Oct 2015

(if you are sane and don't know it, it is an outlandish soapy soap surrounding the white house and all the players)

and how she would already have been President by 1993.

I have a furtile imagination and I have come up with some soapy ones but I cannot post them here.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
18. Good, you are much better off
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:56 PM
Oct 2015

and your brain cells are not committing hari kiri because of the insanity of it.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
26. Uh oh.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:09 PM
Oct 2015

My brother and his girl friend were talking about the craziness and I was snowed in over christmas and thought I would get it on hulu and watch an episode or two. Marathon. It is a hell of a sugar high...be warned. It is bat shit crazy and makes very little logic and everyone is pretty vile in their own way.


But I may have an addictive personality. I kind of see DU as another one of my soaps.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
37. I watch that as well
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:42 AM
Oct 2015

It pisses me off every time Liv gets back with that lowlife SOB. I really hate Melly (but she is a hell of an actress though) and also that bastard Cyrus. My favorite character is actually Quinn and Huck. It sounds sick, but I love the parts when he's doing his "thing" and was teaching Quinn how to do what he does.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
27. This is just shocking. It disqualifies her from ever running
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:52 PM
Oct 2015

for anything. An ambitious politician? What's next?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. Ohh the drama.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:53 PM
Oct 2015

Most of us were aware her plans started when she conceded to Obama. Has she ever denied her Presidential aspirations? I'm not sure as to the point.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
23. Warren said she wasn't running multiple different ways...
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:26 PM
Oct 2015

And people here still didn't believe her. Hillary said what was the correct thing to say. This is getting funny.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
30. Hillary has a habit of saying the (politically) correct thing to say (at the right time)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:55 AM
Oct 2015

Some just doubt she is telling the future correct thing. To be fair, it can get confusing at times.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
24. Some major fail there
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:27 PM
Oct 2015

The Democrats actually lost 6 Senate seats in 2010, and Hillary has a 43% favorable rating, with 50% unfavorable in the Huffington average today.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
33. Why shouldn't she be the first female President.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:45 AM
Oct 2015

She is certainly the best qualified of women or men to ascend to that post. She deserves it, and honest people know it.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
39. She has a horrible record of supporting War & Wall Street. I don't care how "smart" or "experienced"
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:47 AM
Oct 2015

people claim she is. We deserve that she go away already.

I do want to see a first woman president. It will be Elizabeth Warren.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
35. It would've been surprising if she wasn't.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:38 AM
Oct 2015

Though this just looks like one of Sidney Blumenthal's crazy emails where he basically emailed Clinton on an daily basis for years. What surprised me was that Clinton forwarded a few of his emails, indicating that she read them.

Rumor has it that Clinton wanted the SoS position for "party unity" (more to bankroll her "credentials&quot and said Bill would stump for him in 2012 in return for an endorsement and backing. It's no wonder most of her team is former Obama people.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
40. So what.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:09 AM
Oct 2015

I never expected her not to run again. Secretary of State is not a life long appointment and many cabinet officers leave after serving one term. Did you expect her to not keep an eye to her future? Would you have questioned a man having career ambitions? Why should a woman not aspire to be the leader of a nation?

I have a couple of intelligent and lively little granddaughters who I want to see dream their dreams and live them. I want to see them thrive in a nation free of the type of attitude that article implies.

If Sanders supporters want to catapault Victorian era attitudes about the place of women in society, proceed. It will get you nowhere.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
43. First, that email was RECEIVED by Clinton.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 09:34 AM
Oct 2015

Finally, who is surprised that Hillary Clinton has been interested in running for President for a long time? I'm afraid I don't see the issue you're trying to raise as significant in any way.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
45. You're a century and a half too late
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:46 PM
Oct 2015

for The Angel in the House, dude. As Virginia Wolf summarized it, "If there was a draft, she sat in it; if there was chicken for supper, she ate the neck."

Of course she's ambitious. You have to have an ego the size of the White House to run for it. That includes Bernie, who apparently considered running against Obama in 2012.

Give up the sexist drivel. This OP should embarrass the hell out of you. It doesn't look good on you or your candidate.

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