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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:09 PM

Can the Sanders Campaign raise $1 Billion dollars?

No need to answer. It’s called a Rhetorical Question.

That is the low estimate of the amount of money that will be needed to mount an effective Presidential Election campaign in 2016. Some are estimating that it may be as high as $ 2 Billion.

Yes, that’s an obscene amount of money. Yes, we need Campaign Finance Reform. Yes, I know that Senator Sanders wants to abolish Super Pacs and such, taking the big money element out of Politics. HRC has also made statements in this regards. But at this point that's all it is, words floating around in the clouds. The Supreme Court really fucked this country over and that's going to be a major hurdle to overcome.

A little perspective:

In 2012 President Obama spent $683 Million, with the Democratic Party and outside groups pushing the total to $1.1 Billion. In 2008 Obama spent $730 Million.

Before you start slamming that keyboard telling me that this is what’s wrong with our Political System, please consider that this is how the game is played. And you can’t effect change if you aren’t part of the system . If Senator Sanders really wanted to cause change in Campaign Finance Run-Amok it would have been as Senator, and this is how he now could work toward this change.

A simple analogy I use in the 3-Dimensional World; Senator Sanders took the Democratic Party to the Dance but when he got there he dumped Her, saying “I don’t like you…… you need to change….. I don’t like the people you hang out with.”

Hillary is about half way there by the numbers I’ve been reading. She also has the backing of Priorities USA Action which raised and spent $65 Million for Obama in 2012. She has to. Unicorns in the Magic Forest will give you a warm and fuzzy feeling, but the Unicorn has no money. And spoiler alert; a Giant Orc eats the Unicorn.

Believe me when I say that Hillary Clinton would rather spend more time on the road than spending time dialing for dollars. So, please try to keep the 1% and Owned by the Banks/Wall Street noise to a minimum. The only politicians that absolutely love the money being spent are the Republicans. The GOP knows they could take any of the Kar Klowns and have a good shot at getting that Klown elected if they raise enough money. The Klowns love it because they don't have to do anything.

This started back during the Reagan days. The GOP figured out that if they raise enough money they could get anyone elected. It has now grown and ballooned into what we have today. This total Cluster Fuck.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled Snark and Gotcha’ already in progress………



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postatomic Oct 2015 OP
virtualobserver Oct 2015 #1
tech3149 Oct 2015 #5
yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #14
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daleanime Oct 2015 #3
99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #4
Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #6
Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #7
virtualobserver Oct 2015 #9
Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #10
yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #15
jfern Oct 2015 #8
angrychair Oct 2015 #11
global1 Oct 2015 #12
AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #13
Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #16

Response to postatomic (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:12 PM

1. Actually, yes. He can raise $1 Billion dollars

 

he probably only needs about 1/3 of that though.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:31 PM

5. Thank you!

This tired old shut-in hasn't given dollar one to Sanders. I don't have any signs, shirts, or anything. What I do have is awareness and next month I'll get my first SS payment. Guess where all my "free money" will go?
It won't just go to a political campaign, it will go to all the resources that brought me to where I am today It will go
to building the revolution that we all know is necessary. I think there are a few months between now and the election so mabey we should just shut up and get some work done.l

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:32 AM

14. He doesn't need to raise money

 

He doesn't need commercials. He will tweet and post on Facebook and that is more effective then commercials today and totally free. He is a revolution. He will run the primary and general with less then 20 million and win.

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:20 PM

3. As long as it's seen as effective.....

it will never stop. Counting on some one to 'pull the ladder up' after they use it is nuts.

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:29 PM

4. Does Sanders Need to Sell-out to Corporate Oligarchs to Raise $1 Billion? <-- is the real question

 

and the answer is NO, he won't, yet he will continue to raise exactly what he needs to win.

Because We the People have Bernie's back.

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Response to postatomic (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:35 PM

6. Hillary Clinton has raised about $100 million

...including donations to her Super PAC.

That's 1/10 of the way to a billion, not "half way there."

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00000019

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Response to postatomic (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:36 PM

7. you can throw millions at a campaign but

if the going isn't good no matter how much you spend isn't going to save the day. It's how you use those millions effectively on a good candidate.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:46 PM

9. that $100 million in instant PAC money sure did lock up that nomination for Jeb!

 

The billionaires are all still standing around trying to figure out who to buy.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:54 PM

10. the same goes for Trump

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:35 AM

15. Trump is self funding

 

He's probably the only one who can.

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Response to postatomic (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:43 PM

8. The GOP spent $85 per vote they received against Bernie in 2006

Despite being outspent, Bernie won over 2-1.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:03 AM

11. Garbage

So tired of this "we hate it but we have to do it" excuse. We had to have laws (DOMA, DADT, Aids travel ban) that belittled and humiliated people in the LGBT community but HRC said it was to protect them from something worse. Had to be done.
So now, in order to win, a candidate will have to have 12 SuperPACs and raise at least 1 billion dollars or else we won't get a Dem elected. The candidate doesn't like it and maybe, someday, she will try to change it.


Or...I can vote for a candidate that has kept a smooth, steady flow of donations, second only to HRC and the only candidate, R or D, that can say that 73% of their donations come from individual donors contributing $200 or less. A candidate that has never had a SuperPAC in his 30 year career. Has been against big corporations in politics for as long. A candidate that has had the largest attendance at their campaign events, on average, than any other canidiate, D or R, this election cycle.

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Response to postatomic (Original post)

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:39 AM

12. If Bernie Becomes The Dem Nominee Won't The Dem Party Put...

their muscle and money behind Bernie to elect a Dem President? They would 't abandon him would they?

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Response to postatomic (Original post)

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:43 AM

13. A billion dollar$ flings a lot of poop!

 

Wait, Bernie doesn't fling poop.. Nevermind, carry on.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:38 AM

16. ….

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