2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton will be our next president — you can bet on it
At this stage, anyone wanting to place a bet on her winning the White House can get no odds better than even, according to bookmakers websites.
Anything can happen in this life, and nothing is completely certain. But Id still bet on her at those odds or even considerably shorter. At this stage, Hillary is starting to look like what gamblers call a racing certainty.
Its only a few weeks since Republican Congressman Kevin McCarthy basically admitted to Sean Hannity that the Benghazi committees goal was to drive down Hillarys poll numbers. Oops.
The main bookmakers are based in London, although they take bets from around the world. But according to Americas only onshore political-betting operation, the University of Iowas Iowa Electronic Market, the outlook for Republicans is even worse.
As of the weekend, the betting was giving the Democrats a better-than-60% chance of winning the presidential election with Hillary, it is assumed, the prohibitive favorite for the nomination.
You couldnt make it up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hillary-clinton-will-be-our-next-president-you-can-bet-on-it-2015-10-26
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)Let's look back at the lead-up to the 2008 primaries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2008
And yet, somehow, she did not ultimately win the nomination.
History does not always repeat itself, but things change often and fast in politics.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)Which states will each candidate win ?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)Too much unexpected stuff can happen during these insanely long primary seasons. And you never know when some kind of Black Swan event will come along and upend all the predictions. I know what results I want, but I also know that I can't possibly predict whether that will happen.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)Still a Third-Wayer, friend of Wall Street.
MattSh
(3,714 posts)Obama promised much; so does Hillary...sometimes.
We need someone who can deliver for the middle class, not for the 1%.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)but it certainly isn't pretty, is it?
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,708 posts)L0oniX will have something interesting to share several times a day.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DeeDeeNY
(3,354 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)lol
icuc
(39 posts)when it is all over.
People are excited about Bernie because he focuses on the issues that are affecting real Americans, not just the elite. The real Americans vote, and no polls will ever touch these people.
None of the talking heads who are proclaiming for Clinton know what the hell they are talking about. That is their bubble, and real Americans will leave them thinking that Clinton is leading, when Bernie wins in a 2:1 landslide.
No polls will every say that because they want you thinking that Clinton is the the right candidate. She has already begun damaging her credibility, just like she did in 2008. All we have to do is continue the increased pressure if she stands with the real Americans or the Third Way organization that are demanding that she stop shifting to the left. Her loyalties is already made clear.
Nitram
(22,776 posts)"None of the talking heads who are proclaiming for Clinton know what the hell they are talking about."
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Manipulated by the scary Third Wayers
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If she wins the Democratic nomination, I hope she is.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)I posted this reply before it seems like it needed again.
Do you want to tempt the wrath from high atop the thing?
your age is showing...trust me..we are no where near the finish line...a couple of good weeks does not even come close to predicting the finish...sit back ..relax..this will be a long ride...
Yupster
(14,308 posts)My guess is Hillary wins every primary and caucus.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Yeah, youve been telling us that since well before Clinton even declared, and her cheerleaders have been trying to scare off any competitors since 2012. Youre inevitability is an illusion. Once again the corporate main stream media is declaring this contest is over with Bernie nearly tied in Iowa and way ahead in New Hampshire. Bernie is doing far better than Obama was 8 years ago in the polls, has 750,000 people who have donated to his campaign, and far higher trustworthiness, integrity, and enthusiasm numbers. I believe that we will win. We will not sit down, we will not shut up, we will not stop fighting. Resistance is not futile. We will tell you the same thing today we told you 8 years ago when you tried this psychological warfare against Obama: YES WE CAN!
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Isn't it?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)perhaps Hillary's campaign should make tv and internet ads proclaiming that
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)But if you are right, we are all fucked.
I will definitely change my registration to independent.
I will never vote for oligarchy, perpetual war and institutional racism.