2016 Postmortem
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Talk me down, PULEEZ, I'm freaking out ...
Will Mitt Romney win in 2012?
Two University of Colorado professors, one from Boulder and one from Denver, have put together an Electoral College forecast model to predict who will win the 2012 presidential election and the result is bad news for Barack Obama. The model points to a Mitt Romney victory in 2012.
Ken Bickers from CU-Boulder and Michael Berry from CU-Denver, the two political science professors who devised the prediction model, say that it has correctly forecast every winner of the electoral race since 1980.
"Based on our forecasting model, it becomes clear that the president is in electoral trouble," Bickers said in a press statement.
More at link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/university-of-colorado-pr_n_1822933.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D195989
calimary
(81,432 posts)lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)Rainngirl
(243 posts)Stop it, both of you! Don't listen to the polls. Don't believe anything you hear on Faux. I will not accept that wooden twit as president. I won't I won't I won't! Start working with your local democratic headquarters. Make phone calls. Get out and register people to vote. Talk to your friends about making sure they're registered and make sure that they know the republicans are counting on us to NOT vote. They are playing a psycho game and are doing everything they think they can get away with to try to disenfranchise voters. DO NOT GIVE UP, damnit! Do not allow apathy in your presence. Talk to like-minded people, who will give you hope. Seriously.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)But it's such a scary thought ... OMG, President RMoney and Eddie Munster???? Thanks for the boost. I'll try harder to be optimistic. Actually, I was, until I read this.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)that in 2016 that same story will be reprinted to say,
"Ken Bickers from CU-Boulder and Michael Berry from CU-Denver, the two political science professors who devised the prediction model, say that it has correctly forecast every winner of the electoral race since 1980 with the only exception being in 2012 when, in an embarrassing set back to their forecast model Barack Obama handed Willard Romney his ass."
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)to the Goddess's ears!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)"on a platter".
kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)Based on my first impression.
I think Obama is safe for more reasons than I can list right now.
niyad
(113,524 posts)predictive model. also, he did not even graduate until 81.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Lebam in LA
(1,345 posts)psychic predictions, and 6 of them said Obama wins.....I like those predictions better
Freddie
(9,273 posts)But any polls that are out there now were taken before the current Akin/Ryan brouhaha which is exposing the extreme woman-hating underbelly of the Repug party. This has got to hurt them and we're *not* going to stop reminding women that a vote for Repugs is a vote for second class citizenship.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)This time they are wrong. Also, if there hadn't been meddling by Catherine Harris and the Supreme Court in the 2000 election in Florida, Bush wouldn't have won. The 2004 election results were very suspect as well, so those profs are not so correct. Only voter suppression and other tricks will give Mitt the Presidency. I hope those guys aren't factoring in cheating in their model.
kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)I have always liked your posts and this is why.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Calm yourself. Really. find the other threads on this subject and consider deleting yours. The title is hide-worthy as it is.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)Didn't see anything. LInks?
Why would this be "hide worthy?"
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I saw a similar story back in 2007 or 2008 saying that it predicted the winner.
This is one of the regular stories published just to make people go apeshit.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)They're good at it. I'm apeshit.
still_one
(92,366 posts)So they have never been wrong since 1980
And why haven't we heard from them before?
I will only say that the issues are more clear than ever before
If we lose, women become second class citizens, abortion in any form is banned, social security and medicare will be destroyed, the middle class will be gone and coporations will comletely take over the government
However, if every women, senior, progressive, and independent realize their entire future depends on voting democratic, we will win by a landslide
Especially, now that the republicans have exposed themselves for what they truely are
I say they are wrong
MFM008
(19,818 posts)Ok ------while these guys have been correct since 1980, they have given ALL 13 swing states to Romney. I find this potential landslide Dewey/Truman territory. If Obama wins NH we can rest a bit easier . Also there are other electoral maps out there and this is the only one for Romney. Its possible to be wrong and they appear to recalculate each month. Also this doesnt take debates into account. Last Im still going to vote, releasing this seems designed to repress the Obama vote due to temporary insanity or something.
Lets just dry up for the moment......
renie408
(9,854 posts)Ilsa
(61,697 posts)brooklynite
(94,698 posts)People don't LIKE Mitt Romney, and don't see him as an acceptable substitute, however much they don't like the President's performance.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Other than 2000, the electoral vote hasn't been particularly close in the past thirty years. So successful predictions of this nature are not particularly astounding.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)1.) Every other prediction map I've seen has Obama as the winner
2.) We haven't even had the debates yet, and Obama is an excellent debater.
3.) It's August
Polls, polls, polls, predictions, predictions, predictions.
Hold steady, goodness.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)If people are stupid enough to vote for that fool then I guess that's the government they deserve.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)It's late, so I'll be blunt: I saw their paper and I think there are glaring problems with their methodology.
The U. of Colo. model fits the equivalent of 7 unknowns to 8 elections. That's not a good idea.
The Colo. model also assumes huge effects from unemployment if incumbent is a Dem., but none if he's GOP. Hard claim to defend.
If you want a "fundamentals" model that shows Romney winning, the Hibbs model is a lot more sensible.
https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight
spooky3
(34,466 posts)His comments here make sense and I would trust him more than the U of Colo./U. of Denver authors.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)when Silver starts worrying I will.
left on green only
(1,484 posts)As I remember it, she had an almost 100% record of correctly predicting events after they had already happened.
My brother is a professor (PhD high energy physics), so I can tell you from a life time of experience that many professors are full time fecal orifices. Yesseree, both on the court and off.
Edit to add: If you would like to see the almost universally accepted current version of the electoral dashboard, just go the the Huffington Post, Politics page, but pleaseee don't ever tell anybody that I sent you there. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/politics/
TeamPooka
(24,248 posts)I call bullshit.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)That's why I posted the recent comments by Nate Silver highlighting the problems in their methodology.