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Cal33

(7,018 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:06 AM Nov 2015

Bernie, as president, will do far more good for the American people than Hillary can. A Republican

president in 2016, of course, might spell the beginning of Fascism in our nation.

We must all have noticed that the Main Stream Media have been very quiet about
Bernie Sanders. They report little or nothing about what he says or does. They
try their best to avoid mentioning him altogether.

Why? I think they are AFRAID of having him as an opponent in the General Election.
And the best way of not having him as an opponent is to keep him in the dark as
much and as long as possible.

On the other hand, Hillary does get mentioned in the MSM -- often. Again, Why?
The Repubs. would much rather have her as an opponent. They think she will be
easy to beat. They have so much more negative things to say about her. Repubs.
think of her as easy pickings.

Let's help stop Fascism from taking over our Government.

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/08/fascism_is_rising_in_america_the_koch_brothers_and_the_painful_demise_of_democracy_partner/

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Bernie, as president, will do far more good for the American people than Hillary can. A Republican (Original Post) Cal33 Nov 2015 OP
"The repulicans want her to be their opponent" Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #1
Republicans REALLY want to run against Bernie: JaneyVee Nov 2015 #7
There was a media survery about 2-3 wks ago showing Hillary does get more reporting- but Negative riversedge Nov 2015 #9
Of course Repubs. would make negative reports on Hillary. This will only make Democrats stand up Cal33 Nov 2015 #15
Oucy! Did that hurt? Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #17
Yes, the Republicans' modus operandi have always been very crooked and pretzel-like. It's Cal33 Nov 2015 #19
Many people still don't even know who Bernie Sanders is. That's what the MSM wants, has been Cal33 Nov 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #16
Nobody is afraid of Bernie. upaloopa Nov 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #3
Welcome to DU Beast Boy Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #10
Agreed... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #11
I read a post which said that the whole House Investigation of the Benghazi case was cooked up Cal33 Nov 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #23
You hope! Cal33 Nov 2015 #14
Yup workinclasszero Nov 2015 #40
Fascism is well under way in our nation. Scuba Nov 2015 #4
It certainly is. That's why we cannot afford the Repubs. to win the presidency in 2016. It could Cal33 Nov 2015 #21
No Republicans, including those posing as Democrats! Scuba Nov 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #26
The Repubs. sure own the Supreme Court right now. The cards are stacked against us Dems. We've Cal33 Nov 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #6
Then can someone please explain this: JaneyVee Nov 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #12
-----Republicans Should Help Bernie Sanders to Weaken Hillary ---- riversedge Nov 2015 #27
Can you explain this? pinebox Nov 2015 #38
Yeah! They like him so much that they ignore him altogether. His name is hardly mentioned Cal33 Nov 2015 #42
Neo liberal 3rd Way Oligarchs will destroy the public and the planet Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #20
Just as the Neo-Cons have already been doing for the past 30+ years. Cal33 Nov 2015 #24
Aww, is that why he has such a hard time getting the backing of his coworkers? giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #29
Lolol, bravenak put it beautifully when she said he looks giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #32
Just look at his voting record of the last 35 years! If that will not convince you of his Cal33 Nov 2015 #31
Blah blah blah... giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #34
By the way, would you vote for Elizabeth Warren, if she were running? Cal33 Nov 2015 #39
Possibly, but considering she was a republican most giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #41
I'd say in her younger days her main interest was in academia. When she became involved Cal33 Nov 2015 #43
Yes, the mainstream media completely ignores Bernie!!!! zappaman Nov 2015 #33
I subscribe to Time Mag. It's part of the 10% of the news media that is not entirely Cal33 Nov 2015 #36
This is a pointless dispute since Clinton already has super-delegates lined up. randome Nov 2015 #35
This is 2015. As far as I understand, things have changed. If Bernie gets more votes the Cal33 Nov 2015 #37
I can't think of a way that any of the three's first terms would be different from the others' Recursion Nov 2015 #44

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
1. "The repulicans want her to be their opponent"
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:12 AM
Nov 2015

Then why are they completely ignoring Sanders and O'Malley? Is it because there is absolutely nothing to attack them on? Or is it perhaps that they want anyone but Hillary? And that they are so afraid of her that they will use the US treasury to attempt to destroy her?

The idea that the republicans want to run against Hillary is not based in fact...indeed the facts must be completely ignored to make it.

I actually wish they wanted Sanders...they would lay off making shit up about Hillary to send to DU.

riversedge

(70,217 posts)
9. There was a media survery about 2-3 wks ago showing Hillary does get more reporting- but Negative
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:24 AM
Nov 2015

reporting was the largest part of it. Wish I had saved it.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
15. Of course Repubs. would make negative reports on Hillary. This will only make Democrats stand up
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:48 AM
Nov 2015

to defend her. This will cause more Dems. to vote for her! That's their logic.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
19. Yes, the Republicans' modus operandi have always been very crooked and pretzel-like. It's
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:07 AM
Nov 2015

about time that Americans knew about it and don't fall victim to the same old tricks every time.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
13. Many people still don't even know who Bernie Sanders is. That's what the MSM wants, has been
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:43 AM
Nov 2015

doing, and will continue to keep it that way. They have been rather successful at it so far.
They do not wish to have an opponent who keeps on talking about the main issues that
affected American lives in the near past that are still affecting them in a negative way
today, as well as the present-day evil ways of the Republican Party.

What Republicans want is to talk about personalities, private matters, and any bullshit
other than the real issues that are affecting the lives of every American right now. They
want to avoid issues because these issues will reveal their evil selfishness and greed.
They are robbing the American people left and right for their own profit. This they wish
to avoid having exposed.

Since they have nothing else to offer the American people, they dig up private personal
stories and other BS to avoid having their real main AGENDA exposed to the American
public. And their main agenda is to have America all for themselves, and the American
people as underlings and servants to do their bidding!

Republicans can't afford to talk about issues. And Bernie is exactly doing just that. This is
the main reason why they treat him as though he didn't exist. He is telling the American
people what the Repubs. are really doing to our country.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #2)

Response to upaloopa (Reply #2)

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
18. I read a post which said that the whole House Investigation of the Benghazi case was cooked up
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:04 AM
Nov 2015

by the Republicans. The same investigating committee had already investigated this same case
six times in the past. It was just a repetition of old material, over and over. What else new could
they really expect to find?

But the investigation did make Hillary look good. She was cool, calm and collected throughout,
and occasionally made some investigator's foolish question look stupid. She wasn't ever nervous
or excited or looked put down. And her polls immediately after the investigation went sky high.

Why would the same committee investigate Hillary over the same case 7 times? It's not
impossible that the whole thing was cooked up to make her look good. And if that was the
Republicans' purpose, they succeeded quite well.

Response to Cal33 (Reply #18)

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Cal33

(7,018 posts)
21. It certainly is. That's why we cannot afford the Repubs. to win the presidency in 2016. It could
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:13 AM
Nov 2015

mean the end of democracy for us.

We need a fighter against them this time, and Bernie is a fighter.

Response to Scuba (Reply #25)

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
30. The Repubs. sure own the Supreme Court right now. The cards are stacked against us Dems. We've
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 12:23 PM
Nov 2015

got to change that. I prefer Sanders for president, but failing that, Clinton will do.

Response to Cal33 (Original post)

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

riversedge

(70,217 posts)
27. -----Republicans Should Help Bernie Sanders to Weaken Hillary ----
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:33 AM
Nov 2015

There were several of these articles last summer. Hard to keep up with them.



Republicans Should Help Bernie Sanders to Weaken Hillary


by Myra Adams June 25, 2015 4:00 AM @MyraKAdams


Republicans should support the Vermont socialist’s campaign to force Hillary left. Support Bernie Sanders! This is a call to action for every Republican anxious to win back the White House in 2016. Bernie Sanders, the socialist U.S. senator from Vermont, is now surging in his quest to win the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination. .................

After a GOP power player sent me a piece from left-leaning Salon headlined “Hillary Clinton is going to lose: She doesn’t even see the frustrated progressive wave that will nominate Bernie Sanders,” my heart went pitter-patter, beginning to sense an opportunity. But it was not until I saw a headline in The Hill warning that the “Sanders surge is becoming a bigger problem for Clinton,” accompanied by “It may be time for Hillary Clinton to take the challenge from Sen. Bernie Sanders more seriously,” that I was truly motivated to join Team Bernie and rally my fellow Republicans to do the same.

So I sent Bernie a donation and visited his campaign store, where my favorite bumper sticker was Vote for Bernie . . . you know you wanna! Now, I don’t really wanna, and neither do you. However, supporting Bernie in the early stages of his campaign is a noble cause that makes a great deal of political sense and emboldens me to announce Operation Chaos 2016. Perhaps you remember Operation Chaos from 2008? ...............

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420262/bernie-sanders-republicans-myra-adams..........

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
42. Yeah! They like him so much that they ignore him altogether. His name is hardly mentioned
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 01:46 PM
Nov 2015

in the Republican-owned news media. And since the news media is 90% Republican-owned,
many people have never heard of Bernie Sanders.

It's as good a way as any to keep Bernie from getting votes.

Yes, Republicans LOVE Bernie Sanders!

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
28. Aww, is that why he has such a hard time getting the backing of his coworkers?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:36 AM
Nov 2015

Me thinks it's because he's grumpy & unreasonable. He spews hatred for our party & is simply an opportunist who thought the naive could be swayed. To bad for him the reliable voters see through his promises of unicorns & magic fairy dust, which would be the only way he could provide all of what he spouts.

Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #28)

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
32. Lolol, bravenak put it beautifully when she said he looks
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 12:34 PM
Nov 2015

like he's petting horses of 2 separate heights. Cracked me up.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
31. Just look at his voting record of the last 35 years! If that will not convince you of his
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 12:34 PM
Nov 2015

genuineness and integrity, nothing will. It means that your mind's made up, and nothing
can move it. (Even though he was an Ind., he voted 98% of the time like a Progressive
Dem. He knew that many members of both main parties were being influenced by
Corporate bribery, and he wanted no part of it. That was why he became an Ind.)

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
34. Blah blah blah...
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 12:38 PM
Nov 2015

I look at his record, his recommendations & his followers. While his voting record is great, he can't work with the ppl he would rely on to get measures passed & his grassroots are mean spirited & down right racist. I don't want that leading the country.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
41. Possibly, but considering she was a republican most
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 01:24 PM
Nov 2015

her adult life is a huge problem for me. Other than her issue's with the financial platform I don't know where she stand's on the issues I truly hold dear. Which are women's & social justice, those are the places that I need to see a true dedication.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
43. I'd say in her younger days her main interest was in academia. When she became involved
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:31 PM
Nov 2015

in politics late in life, she understood more of what was really happening. She seems to be
the type who has always been for fairness and justice, and knowing more about the party
she had always voted for enabled her to realize how unfair and corrupt the Republican Party
had become. And she quit it.

I had a friend who voted Democratic for the first time in his life when I explained to him
what was really happening -- and with evidence. Until that time he had always been
voting the way his family had always voted. He wasn't much interested in politics in
general. He voted mainly to fulfill his civic duty

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
36. I subscribe to Time Mag. It's part of the 10% of the news media that is not entirely
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 12:47 PM
Nov 2015

Republican-owned.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
35. This is a pointless dispute since Clinton already has super-delegates lined up.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 12:39 PM
Nov 2015

You may as well post a thread about 'good' being better than 'not-so-good'. Um...agreed, but what does that give us?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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Cal33

(7,018 posts)
37. This is 2015. As far as I understand, things have changed. If Bernie gets more votes the
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 01:02 PM
Nov 2015

super-delegates will have to change.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
44. I can't think of a way that any of the three's first terms would be different from the others'
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:57 AM
Nov 2015

They'll be vetoing the same Republican bills. They'll be pulling appointments from the same bag o' Democratic hacks.

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