Hillary goes for the race card against Bernie

[pinebox]

This could get very dirty. I don't know if Bernie will take her bait but this could get very bad, especially considering the baggage she has, $1500 hair cuts, Iraq war vote, threatening Iran, Chelsea jogging around the WTC on 9/11, ducking sniper fire, and that is just a few problems she has with character issues. I won't even go into policy. If Bernie goes after her, it very well could be worse than Obama did in 2007.

Hillary Clinton Is Stepping Up Her Smear Campaign Against Bernie---First she suggested the Vermont senator was sexist. Now she’s reaching for the race card.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/hillary_clinton_keeps_smearing_bernie_sanders_as_a_sexist_now_she_is_reaching.html

On Oct. 23, Hillary Clinton opened a new front against Sen. Bernie Sanders: She framed him as a sexist. Clinton took a phrase Sanders had routinely used in talking about gun violence—that “shouting” wouldn’t solve the problem—and suggested that he had aimed it at her because “when women talk, some people think we’re shouting.” Several journalists called out Clinton for this smear. But she refuses to withdraw it. Instead, her campaign officials and supporters have escalated the attack. And now, Clinton is adding a new dimension to the controversy: race. Some feminists applauded Clinton’s initial zinger. “Hillary Baits Bernie Beautifully,” said a headline in Salon. Another article accused Sanders of “old-fashioned tone policing and dogwhistling about women’s shrillness.” On Oct. 27, Stephanie Schriock, the president of Emily’s List, conceded that Sanders hadn’t singled out Clinton. But Schriock insisted that Sanders “was referring to a lot of folks who have been very adamant about [guns] and a lot of women who have been leading the fight on gun violence across the country. And I do think that is disrespectful.”

Now Hillary Clinton is doing to Sanders what Bill Clinton once said was done to her.

Clinton was in Charleston, South Carolina, addressing the local NAACP. She spoke against a tragic background: the massacre of nine black people in a Charleston church by a white racist. Naturally, she talked about guns. But she added a new line: “There are some who say that this [gun violence] is an urban problem. Sometimes what they mean by that is: It’s a black problem. But it’s not. It’s not black, it’s not urban. It’s a deep, profound challenge to who we are.” Now Clinton accuses others of playing the race card. In Charleston, she told the NAACP, “Some candidates talk in coded racial language about ‘free stuff,’ about ‘takers’ and ‘losers.’ And boy, are they quick to demonize President Obama. This kind of talk has no place in our politics.”

Clinton, too, speaks in code. But in this election, her coded phrases—“some people think we’re shouting,” “some who say that this is an urban problem”—aren’t designed to veil racism. They’re designed to veil her meritless insinuations that her Democratic opponent is sexist and racist. You can argue, based on power or privilege, that playing the race card or sex card from the left isn’t as bad as playing it from the right. But even if you believe that, Clinton’s smears bring discredit on the whole idea of bigotry. If accusations of misogyny and racism are casually thrown at Sanders, voters will conclude that these terms are just rhetoric.
Seven years ago, when Clinton’s own campaign was accused of prejudice, her husband was outraged. “She did not play the race card, but they did,” Bill Clinton said of the Obama campaign. The former president went on: “This is almost like, once you accuse somebody of racism or bigotry or something, the facts become irrelevant.” Three months later, Mr. Clinton was still fuming. “They played the race card on me, and we now know from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along,” he protested. “This was used out of context and twisted for political purposes by the Obama campaign to try to breed resentment elsewhere. … You really got to go some to try to portray me as a racist.”

Now Hillary Clinton is doing to Sanders what her husband said was done to her. She’s taking Sanders’ remarks out of context and twisting them to breed resentment. You’ve got to twist the facts pretty hard to portray Sanders as a racist or sexist. But politically, it’s easy, because once you start throwing around charges of bigotry, the facts become irrelevant. You’re just another beautiful baiter. And you won’t be silenced.

[djean111]

1. More of the same from 2008. Of course. How presidential! n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

5. Hillary is a classic example of an inauthentic politician desperate for power, willing to say n do anything 2 get elected...gonna backfire BIGTIME!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[SoapBox]

47. Ditto.

[jkbRN]

2. I will never, ever vote for her.

I would take her down with the Clinton foundation.

I am so sick and tired of her.

[randys1]

3. Whatever you say! You betcha! You wont get no sass talk from me!

[stillwaiting]

7. I can not believe that I am starting to wonder whether I can vote for her myself.

I am having difficulty seeing myself doing it as a result of her campaign. She's just so bad.

I have always voted for the Democrat in every election (local, state, federal).

And HRC is currently testing that commitment. Her fault. Not mine.

[jeff47]

19. I was where you are a few months ago.

I'm no longer in that position. I will not vote for her.

She has no prayer of winning my state so it won't have an effect on the national results, so it isn't exactly a massive act of courage.

[stillwaiting]

21. I live in Virginia.

I'll probably end up voting for her in the G.E. should she win the primary, but my GOD do I find her disgusting. Just horrible.

I can't believe we can't do better. It's shocking for me.

[jeff47]

31. We can do better. But lots of people are paid very well to pretend we can't. (nt)

[Cali_Democrat]

30. Which state do you live in? nt

[jeff47]

37. NC

For the Democrat to win NC, they have to overcome the rural/urban divide, and the "urban" side is barely bigger than the rural side. Rural voters will always show up, and will overwhelmingly vote Republican. Urban voters are much less reliable, especially when the candidate runs a DLC-style campaign.

Obama pulled it off in 2008 with "Hope and Change". When it turned out to not be so hope-y or change-y, he lost the state in 2012 - urban turnout dropped.

Clinton can not get out the same people who started the "Moral Mondays" protests. "I'll research that" on a giant laundry list of issues is not good enough.

In addition, we're going to need mops to clean up after the Republicans orgasming in the voting booth when they vote against Clinton. Yes, they really are that excited to vote against Clinton.

Finally, there are much easier "swing states" for Clinton to win in order to get 270. So she's not going to bother campaigning here enough to change that dynamic.

This isn't to say Sanders or O'Malley would win the state. They'd have more of a chance than Clinton, but there still would be easier states to win to get to 270.

[AlbertCat]

70. Yes... NC voting!

We went blue in 2008.

But remember we just missed going blue again in 2012.

But the Koch and Pope money had just begun to dupe the rural folks. By the midterms, they had duped them good! Usually by making candidates like Hagan out to be Obama clones. Hell, with the negative ads run back to back from 7:00 to 9:00 PM, you'da thought Hagan WAS Obama....she apparently was solely responsible for the dreaded Obamacare!

I don't want to vote for Hillary because she is so past tense, so 20th century, and so fake with few accomplishments. Even her NY Senatorship seems calculated for a presidential run. But I will hold my nose and do it, probably.

[jeff47]

71. It didn't help that Hagan was working hard to be "Not Obama" at the time.

Someday, our candidates will be smart enough to figure out that running against the party does not get good turnout among the party.

But that's a long way off.

[AlbertCat]

76. Hagan was working hard to be "Not Obama"

She isn't/wasn't Obama. Why would she work hard to appear to be what she is.

Obviously it didn't work, because they thought she WAS Obama.

[jkbRN]

20. Yeah, same here,

I want to like her and trust me, I have tried. But, this type of crap really turns me off, as her antics did in 2008. If your gonna go on offense use facts, and that's my problem with her--it's basically like fuck the facts, I'm gonna outright lie and call someone racist or sexist. It's disqualifying in my mind.

[NCTraveler]

4. I tried to be on my best behavior. Reading this just bernz.

Bernz brains cells. How stupid are people to fall for the medias shit here. This author backs up their headline in no way. Yet some will truly be dumb enough to buy into the narrative because they were desperately looking to do so before reading it in the first place. My heart goes out to people stupid enough to think some type of attack was sent in Sanders direction.

If someone directs a comment at conservatives, and you take it personally, you might just be a little too closely aligned with conservative thought.

[sufrommich]

8. So much this. Very telling.nt

[NCTraveler]

10. Hillary attacks republicans.

And Sanders supporters take it personally. Very interesting indeed. Noticing that a lot lately.

[sufrommich]

15. The guy that wrote this had to publicly apologize

for writing an article linking IQ with race:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/features/2007/created_equal/regrets.html




Not exactly someone who's opinion I value.

[NCTraveler]

33. The op is now taking issue with Clintons hair.

Sure, they are really concerned here.

[bettyellen]

36. Her hair and her daughter- a New Yorker- jogging in NYC. Is this for real?

[pinebox]

43. hey

it is what it is, I'm just the messenger bud. Those things happened. Don't blame me.

[bettyellen]

53. Repeat RW talking points and complain about Hillary attacking RW ideology much?

[pinebox]

105. Oh?

I wasn't aware DU was a RW site but what do I know? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:O0QEzif3-AwJ:www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dview_all%26address%3D389x698126+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera

[LanternWaste]

94. I like to pretend that forwarding an invalid, unsupported editorial

I like to pretend that forwarding an invalid, unsupported editorial predicated wholly on inaccurate inferences, the author of which equates race and IQ, results in me merely being a messenger too.

No blame... merely an accurate illustration of character (or lack of) and rational thought (and again, or lack of).

[Agschmid]

104. This. So much this.

[pinebox]

46. Indeed I am

and both of those are factual and happened. I'm just saying.
We can discuss sniper fire too if you'd like XD

[luvspeas]

44. Hillary could say, "I want everyone to vote for Bernie Sanders for President"...

and there are people who would accuse her of trying to swiftboat bernie because if she supports his ideas they must be wrong or that she has some ulterior motive because you can't trust her.

Progressives should not be doing this to one another. Or I should say Progressives should not be doing this to Hillary because the cards are certainly stacked that way around here lately.

[shenmue]

75. Yep

but this is the present-day DU, where people can do anything.

[pinebox]

11. did you read the whole article?

They backed it up.

Look, I'm no Hillary supporter but honestly, this kind of shit is pure slime and nothing but. We need more debates and those debates should be ON THE ISSUES. Sadly, the DNC isn't allowing that to happen.

[NCTraveler]

18. As stupid as the article is, I read it all.

They backed nothing up and I'm truly sorry you are offended when republicans are attacked. Some people will buy anything sold to them. This is a perfect example. The dishonesty is extremely transparent. It is directed at LIV's. It's as shady as it comes.

[pinebox]

25. huh?

Where did I ever say I'm sorry that I'm offended that Republicans are attacked? WHAT? Dude come on, don't make me get an image of a Kodak projector off Imgur lol

It is what it is and she is technically doing it. The points were all backed up. Illustrated quite clearly. What's shady is her getting $1500 haircuts but hey! lol

[NCTraveler]

28. Now on to the hair. Are the polls what's doing this to people? nt.

[pinebox]

48. Think about it

Hillary pays $1500 for a haircut.

Meanwhile....

Who's in touch with the American people? Cue the Mitt Romney music with elevators in his garage.

[hootinholler]

24. "This author backs up their headline in no way. "

What a pant-load! Let me guess, you're not really very good at reading dog-whistles.

How is misquoting Sanders and then using the misquote to imply racism not an attack?

What Hillary said:

“There are some who say that this [gun violence] is an urban problem. Sometimes what they mean by that is: It’s a black problem. But it’s not. It’s not black, it’s not urban. It’s a deep, profound challenge to who we are.”

What Bernie actually said:

“We can raise our voices, but I come from a rural state, and the views on gun control in rural states are different than in urban states, whether we like it or not.”

You assert that this is not an attack?

[NCTraveler]

26. You are one hundred percent correct I'm saying it isn't an attack in the manner the author is saying

The author who promotes that Africans have a lower IQ than other groups. But hey, that's you guys thing. I'm getting dizzy.

[PosterChild]

60. If this is what berne said and what hillary said in return....

.... then she is right on. This is exactly the way some people think - that gun violence is a urban / black problem and they have no responsibility ... as long as it's happening to "those people" it's nothing I should be concerned about. This is a bigoted attitude and it should be called out whoever might bring it up.

[Bubzer]

69. ...

[tex-wyo-dem]

97. OFFS...

Hil's statement is spun so tight that it would take the jaws of life to unwind it...a complete misrepresentation of what Bernie was saying. But, hey, she's got the best, highest paid handlers to provide her this "material"

For the record, I come from one of the most rural states there is (Wyoming), and have since lived in Dallas, TX and now live in the Bay Area of Cali...I can tell you from first-hand experience that people who live in rural areas have a completely different view of guns than urban dwellers. And it has NOTHING to do with race, and everything to do with recreation (hunting), the occasional need to protect oneself from wild critters, and personal rights.

[PosterChild]

103. Im from rural mo, and in my experience . ...

.... when rural people talk about "urban problems" they are talking about racial issues . That's pretty common.

People who are more concerned about their own recreation than the health, safety and well being of their urban brothers and sisters are suspect and need to be called out, and their indifference needs to be examined in light of the racial biases that are real and allow that indifference to exist .

Bernie gave hillary the opportunity to do little straight talking on that issue and Im glad she took the opportunity to do so. If it didn't go so well for him, too bad.

[AlbertCat]

73. "There are some who say... " "Sometimes what they mean..."

You'd think it was Fox News, if it wasn't Hillary.

[JackInGreen]

77. Such this

Lovely use of doublespeak and circumnavigation.

[Bobbie Jo]

95. Bernie says further...

"I come from a state where there is virtually no gun control. But the people of my state understand, pretty clearly, that guns in Vermont are not the same thing as guns in Chicago or Los Angeles.
In our state, guns are used for hunting. In Chicago they are used for kids killing other kids or gang members shooting at police officers, shooting down innocent people.
We need a sensible debate about gun control, which overcomes the cultural divide that exists in this country, and I think I can play an important role in this."

More Bernie...

"there's a major difference between Vermont, a rural state with little gun control where hunting is a way of life, and cities like Chicago, where guns are used by gangs.

[tishaLA]

112. surely those are inaccurate qotations

because if they weren't, they'd prove the point exactly.

[Bobbie Jo]

114. Links

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/05/politics/bernie-sanders-gun-control/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/07/sanders_guns_in_vermont_are_not_the_same_as_guns_in_chicago.html

[tishaLA]

115. I forgot the sarcasm tag, sorry. nt

[Bobbie Jo]

116. Thought so...

Put em up just the same.

[aikoaiko]

42. "Bernz" That's not a slight against Bernie Sanders is it?

Because you love him, right?

[Faux pas]

6. Dirty tricks

are not what I look for in a Presidential candidate. Keep it up hillary, would l-o-v-e to see you lose again.

[berni_mccoy]

9. This goes to show that the racial tactics she applied in 2008 are really coming from her

And not necessarily her campaign staff. For a refresher see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251758204

[sabrina 1]

12. Well, you can see the talking points right here re these issues. But it's only hurting her because

all over Social Media she is being trashed for this AGAIN. People remember, she may forget.

Let her keep lying about Sanders. She already has a trust problem. It only helps him the way it helped Obama in the end.

It is truly shameful behavior.

[restorefreedom]

34. interesting how this dovetails

with her sudden interest in promoting gun control around the country. it is clear that this was a well thought out plan from her schemers...uh, handlers,,,uh advisors yeah got it.

[giftedgirl77]

13. Everything she said was dead on & if anyone thinks

she's referring to Sanders then YOU may want to take a closer look at yourselves. We in the minority communities have been hearing this shit our whole lives. Not just from conservatives.

[pinebox]

27. well

I'm curious, how do you know what color I am? XD

[giftedgirl77]

52. The fact that you found her statements somehow objectionable says it all.

[Doctor_J]

14. I wonder if her growing depravity will be a net gain or loss of voters

Sanders: This is an urban problem
Clinton: It's an urban problem like he said, but when he said he meant black problem.

She gets more revolting with every trip out of her war room.

[jwirr]

59. So she KNOWS exactly what he means? Mind reading?

[LexVegas]

16. Terms "gender card" and "race card": coined by sexists and racists. nt

[sufrommich]

17. Yep. Interesting,isn't it? nt

[JaneyVee]

22. She's 110% correct.

When people say it's an urban problem, they mean black. Meanwhile, nearly all of these mass shootings happen in suburban/rural areas.

[Cosmic Kitten]

45. Because who live in cities?

URBAN
adjective
1. of, relating to, or designating a city or town.
2. living in a city.
3. characteristic of or accustomed to cities; citified:

[Cali_Democrat]

63. "Urban" has always been code for blacks/minorities, especially among right wingers and the media

You've been living in a bubble?

[JackInGreen]

78. But is it

In the context of Bernies statement?

[Cali_Democrat]

81. Bernie said...

"The people of my state understand, I think, pretty clearly, that guns in Vermont are not the same thing as guns in Chicago or guns in Los Angeles,”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/us/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-gun-control.html?_r=0

---------------------------------

Chicago and Los Angeles are urban cities with a lot of minorities. Vermont is overwhelmingly white and rural.

[JackInGreen]

82. And have populations far denser

And diverse, ayup.
But is THAT what he meant? Honest opinion.
Was he here speaking in code for 'guns in White Vermont are not the same things as in Black Chicago and Latino Los Angeles'? Not any other mundane use.

[Cali_Democrat]

84. I don't think Bernie is racist and I don't think he meant it to be a racist statement.

He likely doesn't even realize he was using right wing talking points that I've heard for years. Wingers especially love to talk about gun violence in Chicago.

The problem with Bernie is that he's sort of a one-trick-pony. When he starts to talk about other issues such as gun control, he becomes very clumsy.

His main issue is income inequality. When he ventures away from that territory, he's like a fish out of water.

[boston bean]

23. She says exactly what I think. GO HILLARY! Speak more of the truth!

[restorefreedom]

29. this is actually a weird type of good news in a way

she is tilting her hand, showing her desperation. plus, once again, she is showing her true nasty colors and reminding the u.s. why they did not vote for her in 2008.

history is repeating itself.

and it is a good reminder to me why i will NEVER vote for her

see how ugly this gets when she really starts shedding support. i predict a FL/MI redux at the convention.

[rbrnmw]

32. Clearly she is calling out Conservatives

Before you ask yes I read it. Why twist everything she says into an attack on Bernie?

Sorry for the edits fucking auto correct

[upaloopa]

35. More bull shit from those not in the lead

What makes you think making up shit will help Bernie? She never said anything about Bernie in that speech. This playing the victim is pathetic.

[pinebox]

58. Sure

You keep thinking that. Have fun.

[leftofcool]

38. Bernie's a victim, Bernie's a victim! Except he isn't.

Republicans have been saying guns are an urban/Black problem for eons. This has nothing to do with Bernie.

[hedda_foil]

39. Bernie must be making inroads into Hillary's lock on the AA vote.

Her internals must be getting a little shaky in her campaign's polling.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

111. She's terrified of losing

[pa28]

40. I will never be able to support somebody like that.

Sickening.

[bettyellen]

41. She is attacking conservative ideology. And I hope she continues to do so. Money is not the only

issue to attack them on guys. Get over it.

[Vattel]

49. I don't like the source, but the source doesn't negate the evidence that she was being really slimy

and suggesting that Bernie is racist.

[aikoaiko]

50. Does anyone have a transcript or a video of the speech?

I'd like to see/hear her comments in context.

[WillyT]

51. K & R !!!

[MineralMan]

54. It's a great idea to check sources you plan to use on DU.

As in this case, they can backfire. The author of this piece is not a reliable source for factual information.

[pinebox]

61. however

the evidence is backed up. I could care less who writes something as long as it's factual.

[MineralMan]

64. Nonsense. I read the article. It's not backed up.

Seeya.

[pinebox]

79. It sure is

and later.

[WillyT]

65. Looks Pretty Even-Keeled To Me... And Slate Is A Reputable Source Too

Link: http://www.slate.com/authors.william_saletan.html

[zappaman]

67. " Looks Pretty Even-Keeled To Me"

No surprise there.

[840high]

55. I will never, never vote for her.

[zappaman]

68. NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER!!!!!

[pnwmom]

87. Why? Because she's fighting against the Rethugs and their "losers and takers"

language against black people?

She's not fighting Bernie here -- he never talks like that. She's fighting the Rethugs.

[840high]

99. She is the lesser of two evils and I no

longer vote like that. Go Bernie.

[That Guy 888]

56. I'm voting for Bernie in the primary, but I'm not interested in forming a circular firing squad

Especially for a self described "liberal republican".

[MisterP]

83. Clinton does not describe herself as liberal

[bkkyosemite]

57. People think HRC is dishonest. Bernie on the other hand

is like Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith (Senator Smith) Goes to Washington, Senator Sanders Goes To Washington. Feeling the Bern.

[Sheepshank]

90. Some people think HRC is dishonest. Many think the OP is not being honest

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251765621

[Tarc]

62. "Chelsea jogging around the WTC on 9/11" ?

Why are DU'ers regurgitating long-debunked Dick Morris lies?

Dick Morris again falsely claimed Clinton said Chelsea "was jogging around the World Trade Center on 9/11"

[pinebox]

80. Maybe sniper fire

has something to do with it? XD

[zappaman]

66. ok. n/t

[Bernblu]

72. She's running a disgusting campaign!

Next she'll imply that Bernie is an anti-Semite.

[McCamy Taylor]

74. Huh? They are the same race.

And "taking----remarks out of context and twisting them to breed resentment" is what Clinton opponents do for a living. Luckily, they are preaching to the choir. The only people who nod their heads "Yes, she is so mean" are those who already think her mean.

[Babel_17]

85. Sanders won't want to, or have to, do it

The Clinton campaign has failed to make Senator Sanders go away. He's not Larry Lessig, and they're not DWS.

The media has an abundance of pundits with time on their hands, and as the public starts to get very interested in the upcoming primaries, an opportunity will present itself.

A Clinton campaign going negative is a Clinton campaign ripe for on air dissection. That's the stuff of life for these people. It was a tactical decision to go so negative. It has, and will continue to, show dividends. They know it will come with a cost, we'll have to wait and see how high that will be.

I don't think they've chosen wisely. Senator Sanders, by not going negative first, and after being cynically attacked responding with great temperance, has chosen wisely.

It's dangerous to want something too much. Lol, in case anyone forgot that part of the moral from the movie.

[pnwmom]

86. GET A GRIP. She's attacking RETHUGS. They're the ones who talk about "losers and takers"

and who push the virtues of small town and rural voters. They're the ones who conflate urban people and black people.

She didn't mention Sanders. She's showing us how she will be speaking out in the general election, against the Rethugs.

And Sanders better be on top of these issues, too. Because the Rethugs are going to continue decrying the "losers and takers" and they're going to continue to put the interests of rural voters first.

[emsimon33]

88. And some people wonder why so many Democrats will not vote for her

Rather than speak to policy and her own qualifications, she attacks. Too bad, Hillary, you have lost my vote!

[Sheepshank]

89. It's always a good idea to get the story straight. It affects your credibility....

....when it's so easily refuted that you promulgated a lie to promote your agenda.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251765621

[frylock]

91. Team Clinton is CONVINCED the only reason she lost in 2008 was because Black President..

and that's why they're running the same campaign.

[raindaddy]

92. I'm a traditional FDR Democrat...Bernie represents the party ideology that FDR represented.

I no longer recognize third way candidates as Democrats and will not vote for them, nor donate money to help their cause.
For thirty years we've watched as the middle class lost ground to the very rich, party because of policies that the Democratic party controlled by dinocrats and neoliberals supported..

[George II]

93. She did neither, pinebox. Why keep digging to find "dirt" that doesn't even exist?

[pinebox]

106. Uh huh

It's funny how people on her deny stuff but oh well, it paints quite a picture

[George II]

107. No one is "denying stuff", just as no one is embracing fiction either.

[pinebox]

108. What you consider fiction

I consider non-fiction but whatever

[George II]

109. Definitions - if something really happened it's not fiction, but...

....if it didn't happen it's fiction.

Quite simple.

[pinebox]

110. and in my opinion

it happened. So then it's context, right? Yup.

[George II]

117. Suit yourself pinebox

[NonMetro]

96. I'm For Bernie, But I'd Give Her A Pass On This One.

Maybe, but on the sexism one, there's no doubt at all.

But I don't she actually considers Bernie Sanders a racist. She may even have been talking about him, but I don't think she meant it that way, if she was. She knows he's not a sexist, too. On that one, she was just lying in a lame attempt to score points. She does that sometimes.

OTOH, this could be another lame attempt at something?!

[AzDar]

98. K & R

[bravenak]

101. Perhaps he needs to change his argument.

She was speaking of Republicans, but if he feels that it sounds far too similar to his own statements, perhaps he needs to moderate his speech so as to not offend the large urban voting population. Many blacks live in urban areas and we often know urban refers to us. I think Sanders is very intelligent and smart enough to know what phrases the GOP uses as dogwhistles.

[gwheezie]

102. But everything is about bernie

HRC must be using secret coded messages that appear to be directed at the GOP but she's really talking about poor Bernie.

[gollygee]

113. I so hate the term "playing the race card"

People are allowed to talk about race and racism, or perceived racism. It isn't "playing a card." It's a legitimate topic of discussion, and in fact something that should be discussed regularly.

[one_voice]

118. I'm pretty sure that this..

“some who say that this is an urban problem

Was a shot at the stupid ass republicans. They're the only ones that say that shit. This is a bullshit accusation against Hillary..imo.

[azmom]

119. How disgusting. It is just shameful

Lies. Lies. Lies.